Thank your for your service! this is by far the most comprehensive channel to get info on tires!

Best comparison of these two tires I have seen. Love the Shinko's!

I've viewed several of your videos. Your review of the Shinko 705 helped me decide to mount a pair on my '22 KTM 1290 SAS. So far they are very good on the rocky roads I ride here in the Arkansas Ozarks...not bad for a 'affordable' 70/30 (or 80/20) tire. I do like that you test these on larger ADV motorcycles. I get tired of the forum comments from people saying these large ADV motorcycles are not capable offroad.

Super excellent video! Outstanding. Thank you.

I didn't know anything about these tires, I have a Vstrom 650 and this is exactly what I was looking for! great review... I am goinng for the Kenda. Greetings from Mexico city!

What can I say, the best opinions on ytb on everything that you test. By far!👏👏👏

thanks! I just ordered a Big Block to try on my scrambler!

awesome review thank you

Have loved the 805s for my Tiger 955 and on road are awesome tire all rounder. And we're ideal but may try the Kenda for more off road winter tyre. Thanks.

Great review. Shinko 804/805 FTW! :) Tried them on a Scrambler 900, Triumph 800, Africa Twin, just brilliant. As mentionned the ONLy place they could be improved a bit is in the lateral grip in the very loose of muddy situations. Otherwise, as well or better than other tires that are twice as expensive.

Great review. This def helped.

I have had the Shinto’s on 3 different big bikes. It feels identical to TKC80 , but cheaper… however, I still use the TKC80 Front & Shink in hear, this way I’m good in changing hear tires every 3 K ! 👍

Thank you!

804/5 transformed my offroad riding on my R1200GS. Considerably more grip and subsequently more confidence off road than the 705s and K60s I had previously used, and still deliver a decent amount of grip on paved roads. They do wear out quickly though (or I need to re-calibrate my throttle wrist)...rear about 50% worn and squared off after just over 1000 miles (2 rides). Since I have two sets of wheels, will likely stick with 705s for predominantly pavement rides (a buddy is now using a set Kenda Pavers and likes them a little better than the 705s for pavement so I might try a set as well), and use the 804/5 for rides that will be more off-road oriented.

You've got the best tire reviews on YT man - thanks a lot for doing these. Honest & well articulated. I'm looking for a good tire to slap on a crf250l for a trip down to panama in Dec. Honestly I'll probably be doing 60% on / 40% off road but I'd like to be prepared w/ some aggressive tread for sandy/muddy situations. First I was sold on the Mitas E-07 after Bret from Mototrek said they were the best adventure tires he's ever used. Then I was sold on the Shinko 804/805. Now those Motoz Adventures are looking pretty good though - the only reservations about them are that they sound a little more sketchy on pavement (though I don't ride that fast/aggressive on the twisties) & the hard sidewalls make me worry about having to change a flat myself, in the middle of nowhere. They also seem like they may be meant for the bigger adventure bikes.. I was just wondering what you would go with in my position? Thanks

I wasnt sure if this guy was gonna talk about tires or fit me for a suit 😁

I have run Shinko 804/805 on my dual sport with great results. Great handling and grip when tires are fairly new. However, once the groove is gone on the center block of the rear tire there is a lot of side to side movement from the tire and lack of traction on wet surfaces. Once the groove is gone on the center block the tire is more like a paddle tire which results in a lot of side movement.

Hey Kyle, long trip planned, LA, AZ, chihuahua to Oaxaca and back… On a 1250 GSA…mostly road w occasional off road, TKC 70 Ricks back w Shinzo 805 big block front? TKC 70 rocks rear, Dunlop Trailmax Mission front? Or go with the long lasting Dunlop Trailmax Mission (reducing risk of punctures)..? Thank you in advance and for all the videos! Maurice

Hi Kyle Great video man. So to summarize, which gives better grip on the road in both dry and wet conditions? I am planning to get either Kenda or Shinko for my bike. Mostly my riding is going to be on Streets and Highways. What do you recommend? Thanks man.

I would love a mileage report on both when they are toast. Also, how do the street and dirt manors change for both as they become worn?

Nice one Kyle. A good mix of what they are like on & off road, which is what these tires are fitted to bikes for. Mindful of the logistics, a longer term report of traction consistency as they wear & longevity would make this review complete.

Great comparison, I bought a new KTM adventure 250 2021 (same 390 chassis) but it came with MRF (indian) tires, do you think I can change them for these SHINKO that will be better?

Hey Kyle, Love your videos👍not many choices nowadays (sold out) which 50/50, 60/40 tire is the closest feel to the TKC 80’s? I’m riding a 890 R😀 Mostly gravel/Twistys/fire roads. I use my 690 Enduro R for more of the rougher offroad riding.

I just purchased the Shinko 804 100/90-19 and noticed that it is a tube tire. Now I’m wondering if it will have issues when installed on my 2020 KTM 390 Adventure’s front rims?

Thank s a lot for all this info, you help me a lot.... my r1200gs lc run whit karoo 3 and a like a lot.. but soon I m gonna buy and other set off wheels... and I want put some more off road tire on my second set of wheels... whit this review, I think I m gonna put the Shinko E 804 and 805... where a live ( Québec Canada) I need to do asphalt road to going where the trail are... so if I m anderstand well for asphalt the shinko are more predictable tire than the kenda... and for trail there are very good bolt....

How would you compare front specifically? (Most in review was rear tire related). Also any updates on mileage? Capping?

Another good video! What is the weight of the shinko? I'll consider this tire as well for my next set.

I realize this is over two years old, but an update from me: I went through two 805s, and they served me well. Earlier this year I switched to an AX41 on the rear (same 804 in front for over two years now), and OMG is it a better tire! It hooks up better in nearly all conditions, particularly good in rutty stuff. Though the 805 was probably a little better in sand when new, the AX41 did pretty good at 50% tread on a nine mile long sand wash a few weeks ago. About the same milage, 1200-1500 miles (I would love to know how that guy managed a 8000 mile trip on the Shinkos ). The front 804 has held up well, probably 30% tread left after 3500-4000 miles, with some minor cupping/feathering, but will be replaced with AX41. As for street tires, my alloys have been shod with Anekee 3s for the last 7000 miles (almost to the wear bars) and they have been outstanding! Used them on my MOA rally ride to Montana, about 4700 miles that included a couple thunderstorms (very good performance in heavy rain), and some excursions on hard pack and gravel (not bad for a mainly street tire). Will mount a fresh set for my 2022 touring season.

great video but what about the tire life? Which one comes out on top?

Front tire traction, stability, Do they plow to much in sand ect. Also much to consider.

Comprasion TKC80 vs Shinko, please. We loved this tires in Poland

Hi, I own a 2018 Royal Enfield Himalayan haven't been thinking about getting some shingle void 805s

Great video! Can you indicate wich are the best adventure tires for going verry fast in the twisties and in confort in the off road? I have a 1190 adventure and i can't decide wich one is better. Thank's!

i just got a africa twin 2017, i want too hit the dirt but i have 80/20s what is the best tire for near 50/50 or greater towards dirt useage. i commute fifty miles one way to work so keep that in mind, thanks kyle, by the way im ruthless to my bikes mostly while flying on the dirt.

Damn those big blocks stepping out like that. Must be hell in wet and especially cold wet weather!

What's your thoughts on putting a big block on the front and a 805 rear? Seems like from your review that might be a good combination? Would you do that review? Or you just think it's a bad combination for the street?

Hi Kyle, I’m going with adventure tires on a 2024 Drz400sm. I am 5’4” so I am trying to keep my tires a short as I can. I bought a tkc 120/70r17 for the front. In your segment on the kenda and Shinko you said the Kenda would lean faster than the Shinko rear. Is there a better back tire to pair with the tkc. (I have read more than on review that says the tkc rear washes out a lot. I am going with a 130/80r17 rear tire. Unfortunately they don’t make any adventure rear tires in a140/70r17 that’s my stock rear.I’m going to lower the rear of the bike but still want to keep the tires as short as I can. Most of my riding will be dirt roads but a little two track. Thanks, love your channel. You really give a lot of info.

i use shinkos for 3 years on my at and now goin on my t7

Got a 2023 bmw g310gs in Sept 2022 and i never liked the stock rubber. Got the bike because i have a ⁴ commute across a military base with almost half being gravel and dirt roads. It cane with the tirws at about 42 psi. I found the bike to do best at 29.5 and 32psi. Now I'm running these 804/805 as of today, dec2023 i had them at 32 34 and the break away was very hard and i didn't like the the feel in the lean. Now I'm at 34 36 and it breaks easier and feels better in the lean. Not sure about off pavement yet. The manual sugests riding at 24 26 psi. I haven't even gone that low in the snow. 🤷‍♂️ maybe I should try it

Those imperial measurements tie my brain in a knot.

PS I need help advice on dual tyre 80/20 for r1200r. 180/55 x17. Yes the 180 has seen me only find Avon Trailriders. Any other options? Cheers. NR.

THX!

I’m curious how the Shinko 805 compares to the Mitas EO-7. Thoughts? Sorry if you have done a segment on this & I’m missing it. Thank you!

I have a new 790 Adventure S. Soon to have aftermarket suspension and a few other mods but nothing serious. I live in the Phoenix outskirts so the bike will see freeway, desert, forest roads, and everything in between. How do you think these two would do on this smaller, lighter bike? It is not a commuter or primary transportation so I expect it will be around 60 street 40 dirt. But as you know, the desert can be hard on tires. Are these tires up for a 60 year old back out in the desert where i learned to ride in the early 70s?

Good explanation but you forgot to leave us the website to buy them

Nice review, but what about Km durability?

what mileage do u expect from both. I have bought 705's and got just 4000 and now the rear is toast.

Hi sorry I would like to ask you, I have a Triumph Bonneville T120 black which arrives in a month. I would like to put these 804 shinko tires but is it possible to know the size of the rubber that I have to choose? I can not understand. Thank you

How does the Kenda big stack up against the Bridgestone ax41? I spend most of my days commuting 124 miles a day on pavement but would like a tire that does very well in the dirt for the fall riding season.

Problem with the Shinko's is their speed limit of only 99mph - I have to agree though, the Shinko's were amazing on my nearly 8,000 mile adventure exploring all of the western US in 2017 - surprisingly good on the hwy but off-road were even better! I did several hundred miles of rough, some silty sandy, some sandy logging roads and lots of hard pack - the 804/805 combo was very good in all these - my other big gripe other than the 99mph was how badly the front cupped to the point that it was so uncomfortable I had to change it out even though it had at least 2,000 more miles left in it... having said that, I do NOT like running tires till bald or even close. I recently installed the combination of a 805 in the rear and a Karoo 3 up front for a few hundred miles of tough off-road on my R1200GSA - great DOT combo for off-road and not bad on the street though I felt the Karoo 3 was not quite as sticky as the 804 in my experience... Thanks so much for all you do!

I have try both of the same tire, I like Shinko 804/805 better. Kenda squirm during highway speed unnerving felling.

Hi, are the Shinkos tubeless? Is it safe to mount them on a Africa Twin with tube?

Can one or both be ran tubeless on my 21 ATAS?

As far as rain performance which one do you believe handles better on wet roads/muddy terrain?

Hated the Big Blocks. The Shinko needs blocks on the side of the void. Tried on DL1000 and XR 650L.

Can these go on 250cc dirtbike

speed rating is also important

Any chance anyone knows the weight difference between the two? Baby gs cant afford to lose power

Problem with that thread design I found is they become really slippery in muddy trails

How do the Big blocks rate against the Motoz Rallz

The most important thing for me is what speed you can get before bike wobbles, what speed could you get? the Kenda sucks at speeds over 130 km/h. How is the Shinko?

GOOD REVIEW just dont like the other gear you advertise or review thats made in China - eg Klim clothing. Would rather stuff made in the US or another country

I’m going to put shinko’s on my goldwing.

My 805s got scary after about 4000 miles. I took them off with plenty of tread left

It looks like you compared a 150/70/17 Kenda vs a 150/70/18 Shinko. That would not be a direct comparison for athings like sidewall height.

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And the verdict is..?

I got big blocks on my KLR, Im not a fan they slide out way to much. On pretty much all terrain and road.

metzeler it's the best of the best

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