I love the creativity Mike, this is exactly what the hobby needs. Not several hundred pound locos and rakes.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks I agree 100%
@attuslebeard51334 ай бұрын
Could be a start of a James Bond themed layout. Need some wagons carrying torpedos/missiles and some with ominous hazardous material warning signs.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Love the 007 idea
@geoffadams5904 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Surely it should be OO9 😀 Sorry, couldn't resist that one. Great to see another way of looking at small layouts like this. Your videos are always an interesting watch. Looking forward to seeing this one develop...
@Razer_-fe9mo3 ай бұрын
Add some airfix missiles to the Peco wagon kits and you'd be fine!
@peterthorn89884 ай бұрын
Mike, your videos give me serotonin. Genuinely inspiring for a young space-poor strapped-for-cash person trying to get into the hobby ❤
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks, happy to help
@michaelayres99784 ай бұрын
You have started the new wave of model railways! So imaginative. Love it!
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks, I think we need to get away from the formulaic UK branch line theme, and explore other concepts
@michaelayres99784 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways I agree. Have you thought about changing your eBay name to make it match your channel.
@johnjohnston96614 ай бұрын
The tuning fork design can work quite well for a minimal shunting layout. You make an excellent point in that the lead should be able to hold a full consist for both siding. The sweeping curve leading to the turnout adds visual interest as does the backscene. Love the submarine pen - a nice touch of plausible whimsy! A simple but very interesting layout.
@user-iq2ry3lo6c4 ай бұрын
Excellent, just love the submarine!😅👍 perhaps you could put a golf ball radar site at the back, chain link fence, guards at the gate!?
@kineticrail4 ай бұрын
You could have your own model exhibition at this rate. Great stuff. Love the submarine base I hope you will find space for a little n gauge james bond on a mission
@stuartallen86844 ай бұрын
Always enjoy these videos. Very refreshing 👍
@TheJpec3614 ай бұрын
This is great! Reminds me of a local industry near me that makes plastic shopping bags, which is ironic because the local governments have banned plastic bags starting in January, which has 2 sidings, one for loads and one for empties. They pull the empties, move the loads off the other road and drop the loads they just brought up. It takes them a fair bit of time with no passing loop and can get complicated if one of the cars being unloaded hasn't been unloaded and has to be pulled and re-spotted.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Exactly, and I use a random card system so the Wagons are always in the wrong place lol
@Shelvington_Railway4 ай бұрын
Nice idea with the sub! While I was planning Shelvington, I was thinking exactly the same as you and having a submarine base, just like that Top Gear episode, simply because, like you, there was no where for a river to go and look 'normal'. Love it! Cheers, Andy
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
It's amazing where we get our inspiration from
@johncherrington60804 ай бұрын
Another excellent video thanks Mike. The only reservation I have is that once the fun of building is over how long before the novelty wears off from an operating point of view. I have a layout that incorporates the 3 siding Inglenook shunting concept and have found that despite the large number of potential train formations it didn't take too long for it to become a bit boring.
@TheRobertLcollins4 ай бұрын
Neat idea! I've seen others talk about this sort of layout, the "fork" or "tuning fork" model railroad. The ways to run them I've heard about are the "loads/empties" use of both sidings, or one siding but with multiple car spots on that one siding to make the work more complicated. It'll be interesting to see how this layout progresses.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks I'm using a random card system which seems to work well
@tonyjewell81414 ай бұрын
Like this a lot, inspires me to look at modelling something very loosely based on Fremington Quay in North Devon Where I live. Love your Stuff!
@Horrifying_turtle_penis4 ай бұрын
Now that you mentioned building narrow-width micro layouts I do recall seeing an N scale layout plan built on a 6ft 2x4 plank, it was on a website called "Mike's Small Track Plans" or something like that. There's a bunch of other similar small-size N layouts on there if you want to check it out
@andygorman8584 ай бұрын
At when I thought you couldn’t get any more creative you smash this one out! Have heard about this type of shunting but have never seen one running, let alone planned and built. Watching this with much interest!
@dh90334 ай бұрын
Poor Mrs Budget, what's she to do since you've now chopped up her drawers for another shunting layout? 😢 You've no need to worry about getting enough BMR disciples Mike, you're a modern model railway hero with a cult following! Good for you and thank you 😊 Cheers, Dudley
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks that's very kind of you
@JohnJohnson-cn9fh4 ай бұрын
i have a roughly n gauge flying saucer this gives me ideas,nice one guys....................jpj
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Sounds great
@christopherstubbs81304 ай бұрын
This is actually the start of the scale model for BMR's secret base. Mike Potter as the next Bond Villian - you heard it here first.
@brettany_renee_blatchley4 ай бұрын
Love this!! There is a whole "thing" about shunting with a single turnout that is intriguing. You could have a set of wagons; toss dice for their random starting and ending arrangements; then keep count of how many moves it takes to get it done. Also, a neat "improved" controller could simulate inertia by ramping-up to the set speed and ramping-down when you switch-off. You're using a Pulse-width-modulated controller, and it would be fairly easy to make this behavior. Anyway, it's amazing how real a simulation/model can feel if it behaves with a little physics. Blessing & Joy from Roanoke Virgina USA 😊💜
@Mokkers_stuff4 ай бұрын
Love the fact that you have revisited a project from before. Excellent!
@vincenthuying984 ай бұрын
Dear BMR, interesting idea to do a 1 turnout kind of Inglenook. Love the way you incorporated the sub and its ‘secret’ penn. Think the angle at which you put the penn exit/entrance is a great example to create a more significant illusion of depth, even on such a narrow baseboard. On modeling in N scale, there’s of course the difference between the Japanese scale differential 1:150, the UK’s 1:148 and the rest of the world’s 1:160. Don’t know if Kato offers British models in 1:148. Or, for that matter if it truly makes a significant visual difference if one combines the two scale differentials. However, when the 1:148 and 1:150 are combined with the 1:160, that visual difference becomes indeed apparent. Will be cool to see this little layout in its scenic form. Definitely am looking forward to seeing your next episodes! Cheerio
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks. Given that it's freelance I ignore the difference in scale
@timsully89584 ай бұрын
Now that is something different! Really like the concept and curiously, being non-UK outline kind of helps as you can let your imagination run wild 😉 Nothing gets the attention of a young man in long trousers (holds hand up! 🙋) like a secret submarine base, so perhaps you could go a bit nuts and have a couple of tongue-in-cheek references like a bar called ‘The Henchman’s Arms’ or an evil lair over the tunnel portal 😄 Or how about making it a Soviet Sub complete with sentry boxes and an ‘information’ centre that looks mysteriously like a KGB intelligence building 😎 Whatever you do, it’s going to be excellent I am sure 🍀👍🍻
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim
@stuartmiller80534 ай бұрын
Gosh you pump out the work. This will be an interesting build and lends ideas for making it a small civilian fishing port. Doing the Nissan huts in low profile (two for the price of one) could free up some space. Cheers Stu
@andrewmasters50204 ай бұрын
Nice variation. My Inglebook is 9" x 24" x 3/4" (22cm x 61cm x 1.8cm). Could be narrower, but am constrained by size of board (it folds out of a book) and 9V battery. Redoing my pop-up warehouse tonight (40mm high when up). Easily fits on a small coffee table.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Sounds wonderful
@andrewmasters50204 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways it will be ... eventually! Very slow progress as I'm having to learn pop-up techniques, but enjoying the mistakes as I go.
@Maurice00PA4 ай бұрын
Talk about something completely different! Interesting idea. I wonder how they shipped torpedoes? Would make an interesting open load. Cheers.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Interesting thought, thanks
@stevenjones19-m8i4 ай бұрын
Hello, brilliant video,this layout is looking good so far.the submarine is a new thing,cant wait for the progress and videos on this one.
@ModelMinutes4 ай бұрын
This should be a fun project 😊
@davidsheriff89894 ай бұрын
Creative thinking love it !
@michaeldavies96004 ай бұрын
Very clever Mike :)
@davidhitchcox85574 ай бұрын
I love the freelancing and the imaginary location.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@AlwaysCensored-xp1be4 ай бұрын
Might have get a few Kato locos. Probably those 11-1xx chassis. Kato has a BoBo one, maybe Climax A class on a timber tramway.
@chazzyb86604 ай бұрын
Love it, "and a submarine". Well done Mike. I often wonder if all those subs moored up in Devonport are really mothballed, or just waiting? Probably better not to answer.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
There were fascinating rumours around obselete kit, AFVs and aircraft, mothballed during the late 80s, and of course it turned out the soviets had mountains of old ww2 kit mothballed for the same reasons, even German stuff
@DavidPudney-jr4pl4 ай бұрын
Clever. Be interesting to see how the " stretch" of water turns out.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
I will use paint and cheap varnish, which has always worked ok
@colinnewmarch11064 ай бұрын
Very clever,
@mikehebdentrains4 ай бұрын
how about a N gauge dockside crane on the front siding - just to get in the way and add a few more rails!
@LesPaulDavis4 ай бұрын
Love the submarine base idea. Too much of the emphasis on railway modelling is realism at all costs, at the expense of fun in my opinion. I think Hornby were on to something with the steam punk range but the execution was lacklustre.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
I agree on all points, thanks
@austinsomerset23224 ай бұрын
Could you 3D print UK bodies to fit the Kato chassis?
@christopherbraiden67134 ай бұрын
Woop!! Woop!!love the idea, should be fun. Do kato make TT?!!😎🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🇬🇧
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Thanks. No only N and HO, as these are the scales in japan
@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft52044 ай бұрын
good vid on channel thanks lee
@smudger7974 ай бұрын
🤠
@OlivierGabin4 ай бұрын
Nice idea to try. I'm curious to see the final result. By the way, good idea about the shunting tracks. I've found the same kind of idea for a terminus station while at work, before leaving. For the submarine, very original, I love it ! I share this military idea with you : for my mystery novels, I had the idea that, in the early 1970s, the Royal Air Force had developed and fielded Polaris nuclear missiles launchers disguised as bogie freight cars, that can be dispatched at will all around Britain using the railway network, to have a surprise deterrent in case of Soviet nuclear attack. USSR had done this with their RD-23 Molodets (SS-24 Scalpel). So, why not a Polaris in a freight wagon ? The Royal Navy had adopted this missile at the same period as a nuclear deterrent for the UK, launched from submarines. So, why not supplement it with a derivative launched from railway wagons ? That can be a nice model train project.
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
Great scenario, would make an interesting military train. It would need to be self contained, sleeping, eating, security detail. Perhaps copy the German ww2 idea of flat Wagons with vehicles that can be off loaded for specific tasks?
@OlivierGabin4 ай бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailwaysI had seen it more like a disguised ordinary train, like the Molodets was. You put the missile and its launching ramp in a GUV-like coach, with an opening roof to erect and launch it, and you add a command post disguised as a buffet car, a sleeping car for accomodations, and so one... You can do it in the shape of an HST with everything needed inside. I also take the idea of flat cars with dedicated vehicles for specific military tasks, maybe not for nuclear missiles, but I will think about it. Thanks for the ideas !
@chrissouthgate45544 ай бұрын
The US had a similar idea for the Minuteman. Then realised that if they put it on Am-Track no one would know where the missiles were, including those supposed to launch them.
@emdcale4 ай бұрын
Great layout 😊 looking forward to seeing your ideas happening. Would you consider painting your track when it is not ballasted?
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
It doesn't really bother me. You paint it spend ages cleaning it and the trains don't run any better lol
@billsholl79044 ай бұрын
Excellent video and interesting comments about freelancing with Kato rolling stock and locos. I have just started out in N, and some of the prices of British locos even second hand are getting stupid. Do you loco bodies clip on and off a kato chassis? Was thinking of getting 1 chassis and just interchanging the bodies making it more cost effective. Keep up the good work !
@BudgetModelRailways4 ай бұрын
They will sit on, but not clip, I tend to use a drop of uhu, to fix them.
@edwardsexby34024 ай бұрын
Loving it! I'm getting strong vibes of Devonport Dockyard in Plymouth, or the underground storage pens by the Gunnislake branch, visible from the Tamar road and Prince Albert railway bridges! Or, indeed, a Thunderbirds secret base...Looking forward to seeing how this one goes.