Buell xb Fork Seals
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5 жыл бұрынBefore you attempt this repair, look into the $25 Risk Racing Seal Doctor tool. If your problem is a good seal hopping over dirt, this tool may stop the leak! I have no affiliate link, so find yourself. Feel qualified to do your own fork seals? Here's a step-by-step video to give you an idea of the process. Know that the factory service manual supersedes any and all KZfaq videos. Not confident after watching the video? Contact your local Buell club and see if a local member is up for helping you. It's appropriate etiquette to bring beer for such a friendly greybeard! For entertainment purpose, not an instructional video, use of this video is done at one's own risk and Ian Landesman is not held responsible for your faulty repair.
Torque Values:
Fork Cap to Damper Rod: 38-42 ft-lbs (51-57Nm)
Fork Cap to Fork: 22-30 ft-lbs (29-40Nm)
Lower Fork Clamp: 20-22 ft-lbs (20-27Nm)
Upper Fork Clamp: 23-25 ft-lbs (31-33Nm)
Front Axle: use anti-seize: 39-41ft-lbs (53-56Nm)
Front Axle Pinch Fasteners: 20-22 ft-lbs (27-30Nm)
Brake Caliper Fasteners: Red Loctite: 35-37 ft-lbs (48-50Nm)
Credit where due: I used these videos myself - • 2008 Buell XB12SCG For... , • Buell Ulysses xb12x fo...
Additionals: I have been told the spark plug socket I show in the video is 5/8" and the one that works is 13/16". I have not confirmed, but sounds right.
Video suggests a 32mm for the tube cap. An 1 ¹/⁴ deep socket works too and is actually tighter than a 32.
For making the seal driver out of an 1 ¹/⁴ PVC tee, make sure it's 1 ¹/⁴ x 1/2 in tee. I bought one that was 1 ¹/⁴ x 1 ¹/⁴ and the added material in the pipe for the big 1 ¹/⁴ tee portion made it impossible to snap onto the fork, even after grinding it down many times. I went and bought an 1 ¹/⁴ x 1/2 from Lowes (only place I could find one) and it worked like a champ.
Also, I didn't have the issue (but a viewer did and this is what he said) when you go to remove the pre-load adjuster cap, one of mine just spun the while dampening rod assembly, instead of just the cap. I had to compress the sleeve assembly and put the 17mm on a step earlier (make sure to do it UNDER the teflon bushing) so I could crank the pre-load cap down to remove the snap ring.
@billfichthorn2326 5 жыл бұрын
The correct spark plug socket size that fits is 13/16", the back side of it is exactly 22mm
@IanLandesman 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have pinned this comment so it is at the top and hopefully it helps someone.
@markwinchester3005 3 жыл бұрын
Man Ian thanks a whole heckuva lot w/ the ladder/jack stand that only a BUELL owner would understand the need for. Ingenious.
@IanLandesman 3 жыл бұрын
It's a huge inside joke in the community, but honestly... it works so well that I'd use this on a different platform without hesitation. Have a great day!
@jburnham9109 2 жыл бұрын
Things I discovered during my go: Video suggests a 32mm for the tube cap. An 1 ¹/⁴ deep socket works too and is actually tighter than a 32. For making the seal driver out of an 1 ¹/⁴ PVC tee, make sure it's 1 ¹/⁴ x 1/2 in tee. I bought one that was 1 ¹/⁴ x 1 ¹/⁴ and the added material in the pipe for the big 1 ¹/⁴ tee portion made it impossible to snap onto the fork, even after grinding it down many times. I went and bought an 1 ¹/⁴ x 1/2 from Lowes (only place I could find one) and it worked like a champ. Also, you didn't have the issue I had but when you go to remove the pre-load adjuster cap, one of mine just spun the while dampening rod assembly, instead of just the cap. I had to compress the sleeve assembly and put the 17mm on a step earlier (make sure to do it UNDER the teflon bushing) so I could crank the pre-load cap down to remove the snap ring.
@IanLandesman 2 жыл бұрын
Added to video description. Thanks for helping!
@millatym04 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Please make videos for all of your Buell endeavors! You’re a wonderful instructor.
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
millatym04 thank you! Comments like yours really make my day. I sure will make more videos as the bike requires repair. I’m just an amateur though... if you run into any Buell problems I can help get you in touch with the enthusiasts that helped me.
@PatrickKalush 9 ай бұрын
Amazing! Ive had a broken XB12SS for two years because of a fork seal. Thanks for this guide!
@clockworkbike 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! Thank you for making this GREAT video. Great sound, great lighting, great angles, great explanation. I'll be doing my XB9SX tomorrow so she'll be ready when the snow stops. If the snow ever stops. Cheers from Edmonton Alberta
@IanLandesman 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found helpful. Check the description for additional info from viewers and please comment any suggestions after you get through the job. Thanks!
@kaytea274 2 ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment on anyone working in their XB9sx as I have to do mine. If you found anything different about the process, comment back! ✌️ from BC
@clockworkbike 2 ай бұрын
@@kaytea274 I see I made that comment 2 yrs ago and I still haven't done the job. Ha ha ha. This May for sure.
@glenwallace6314 4 жыл бұрын
I replace my very leaky seals., thanks to your very well made video. I subscribed and enjoy your other videos. You have charisma that makes your videos enjoyable. Keep up the good work.
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
glen wallace thanks so much Glen!
@paulfiore850 2 жыл бұрын
Just happen to need new oil seal on my 09 Ulysses. Plan to refer this video to my mechanic just to save him some headaches
@Buellxb9cityx Жыл бұрын
thank you good video.greats from Austria
@reubenbarela8481 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much your vid allowed me and my lady to do the job ourselves
@IanLandesman 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Glad it helped
@Lew1125CR 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this DIY vid. I was able to get my right fork rebuilt with your help. Wish you still had the XB but that chopper is awesome.
@IanLandesman 6 ай бұрын
Glad the info helped. I miss the Buell, but I didn't ride enough to keep it in good shape. The old bike is currently in good riding shape!
@joshuaheart2764 Жыл бұрын
I needed this video. TY!
@clockworkbike Жыл бұрын
Man, I am sooooo glad you made this video. I thank you, thank you, thank you!
@IanLandesman Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@richardbilan8519 4 жыл бұрын
Very well done video. To the point and accurate.
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Bilan thank you! If you are interesting in other repair videos on this bike check out my channel
@HelmetHead 5 жыл бұрын
Really helpful and great information. Big thumbs up 👍
@IanLandesman 5 жыл бұрын
Helmet Head Thanks! More like this to come as repairs are needed.
@tylerallison8438 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect walkthrough video! Thank you
@IanLandesman 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment and sub! I'm happy to help.
@IanLandesman 5 жыл бұрын
You may like my latest Buell repair video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZ6PgLaa0ZzWc6c.html
@BooksxRonin 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this.
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
x Ronin x You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
@matttomlin1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a helpful video
@IanLandesman Жыл бұрын
I'm glad it saved you some cursing brother!
@scottwarheit6034 4 жыл бұрын
pretty good video well done and thank you
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott. I am so happy it helped you out. Be sure to sub - I'm filming a belt change video right now and as things break I'll do more repair videos. Going to do a connector 77 video when the new voltage regulator comes in too.
@clockworkbike Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha, I now see that I already commented a year ago. Well, I'm finally getting around to doing it.
@6romansoldier 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the "right to the point". Took the bike to a shop for seals.....two months later...right seal is bad and wheel bearings are destroyed....want so ething done right? Do it yourself.
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
roman boyum absolutely! These are simple to do. I’ll do more videos like this as things on the bikes break. I mostly motovlog but really enjoyed making this video. Glad it helped
@anascottwelding1761 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, Thanks mate, Clear with good visual explanations, I'm doing mine now, got them on the table ready to dismantle, once I get all required parts. I ride mine hard and run a heavier weight oil in them to take the high speed front wheel landings and high speed jump/impacts etc. (She rides smooth as silk over 100km/h. ) Would you also recommend changing the metal retaining clip flat rings as well? can they wear causing slight slap in the sliding of the tubes?
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Makes me happy to help someone. I have an SS, so I don't bottom out, but if I didn't have the 'long' model, I'd use heavier weight oil too. Everyone likes the SCG, but those bottom out from the factory on the street. I did NOT change my retaining clips, and although in my mind there's no reason to change them, I don't want to tell you wrong. If it's only a few bucks, and it makes you feel better to change them, go ahead, but to give you an idea... my other bike is older than I am and I reused those retaining clips.
@Ed-ty1kr 3 жыл бұрын
The teflon covered sliders should be replaced as well, and even if you spread them or even if they feel lose for some reason and do not fit snug onto the groove, the outer fork casing will keep them in place. But it will be a bit harder to slide together. 9:19 time stamp. Great video, love the DONT TOUCH THIS front brake comment. LOL
@IanLandesman 3 жыл бұрын
I wish those were easier to buy replacements for. Thanks for watching.
@markgattis1055 Жыл бұрын
"Speaking of hammering, hammer that subscribe button right now!" - Clever!
@IanLandesman Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad the video has helped my fellow riders!
@markgattis1055 Жыл бұрын
@@IanLandesman It did! I followed it step by step for the first fork of my XB9R, and was able to do the second purely from memory.
@TheGorillaBiker 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely put together and detailed :) That's a complicated enough set up too the GSXR is a tad easier :)
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for watching! Just like you said in your video about it brightening your day when someone leaves a thoughtful comment, it really brightens my day that you check out my video on this GB!
@TheGorillaBiker 4 жыл бұрын
@@IanLandesman Not at all man :) And you should make sure to do all your service stuff on video now it'd definitely get interest if they were all like that :)
@grantsimsdds 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the detailed information. I think I can do that myself! Where do you get the rebuild kit?
@IanLandesman 9 ай бұрын
I believe I bought from St. Paul Buell
@edwardcarrizoza5767 Жыл бұрын
How long is the dip stick you made?
@TyOn2Wheelz 2 жыл бұрын
That is a nice xb lighting i have been trying to find a Ulysses reasonable priced.
@IanLandesman 2 жыл бұрын
My lightning is for sale. Aren't you in Tennessee or nearby?
@IanLandesman 2 жыл бұрын
I think I remember seeing one of your vids couple years ago and you're in south, no?
@TyOn2Wheelz 2 жыл бұрын
@@IanLandesman North carolina
@IanLandesman 2 жыл бұрын
@@TyOn2Wheelz woowee that a long ride. I'd knock $500 off a reasonable offer to cover your expenses getting here and riding back. If you're interested let's get in touch via email. I have it under my about on here.
@Wangerdad 2 жыл бұрын
Really superior video. The only thing I can add is that, lacking an assistant I trust, I pulled the tube down with a ratchet strap that I re-worked the hooks on by strategically shortening them. It may even be safer if you do it right?! But no video because I'm not as pretty as you.....
@IanLandesman 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip Kelly. Glad you were able to get it done and thanks for the kind words.
@US-px7wc 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! May I ask you how long it took you to do both forks? Thanks
@IanLandesman 3 жыл бұрын
It'll take you a few hours. I'd dedicate a morning or afternoon.
@mattgwardesq Жыл бұрын
Anybody here familiar with which All Balls seal kit is used for 2004 xb's?
@timk.58 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up on the video! One question, my all balls seal kit states to install double seal lip twards the oil, which would be up when looking at the fork on the bike. Any comments
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
Tim K. If you haven’t already pulled your old seal off the fork (or kept it in the same orientation) copy the orientation. It’s been a while since I’ve made the video, but I think I show which direction to place it.
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
Tim K. Just reviewed the video for you bud! The two lips do go UP towards the oil.
@timk.58 4 жыл бұрын
Got ya! Harley Dealer did the seals a year ago, Already left side leaking...definitely don’t trust copying their seal placement!! Thanks (they were upside down based on this information) ;))?
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my GOD, they put it in BACKWARDS?! I would definitely let them know! Maybe that tech did other people's fork seals wrong and they've accidentally sent other bikes out fixed wrong. I never ask for money back, but if they know you are just trying to look out for other riders, they'll look into it. Glad my video could help you out! Now that you know how to do it, you can maintain the bike for a lifetime! These are special machines!
@timk.58 4 жыл бұрын
Yep on upside down. I don’t think they would care if I tell them plus there is no “proof” so to speak.
@Spartacus4000 3 жыл бұрын
So this would b the same for an xb12x "ulysses"?
@IanLandesman 3 жыл бұрын
The basics yes. You want to double check in the manual the amount of oil for each year/model of bike, but I do believe the ss forks are exactly the same. I know the swingarm and belt are interchangeable but not sure about the rear shock so don't want to speak with 100% on the forks friend.
@bretttourigny5630 5 жыл бұрын
Same forks on 05 xb9sx?
@IanLandesman 5 жыл бұрын
I believe the SS and SX share the same front forks... they both have longer travel than S and R. You can certainly use this video, but double check the fluid level is correct. In an abundance of caution I recommend you check the service manual for the X before proceeding - here's a link: buellmods.com/#TabbedContent
@abimaelroque61720 5 жыл бұрын
Crimeny I put my comment in the wrong place... I'll get it right next time, sorry.
@IanLandesman 5 жыл бұрын
She usually thumbs down/comments on my videos within minutes of upload, so surprised she didn't answer your question. It's 'punishment' for not making a requested video showcasing my body and clothes in a specific way. Click on her name and she has a 'favorite' playlist with over 3000 videos. You don't have to go very far and you'll see some gentlemen have made these videos for her. Knowing that... I think she genuinely feels like I'm an asshole for not making her the video. To her credit I thought it was a joke at first and joked back until I realized she was serious. It doesn't bother me though. She's welcome to thumbs down and comment. I hope when she stops being sour, she sticks around and has a good time.
@duzirealz9469 4 жыл бұрын
or make your own with a plastic bottle for FREE
@IanLandesman 4 жыл бұрын
I laughed thinking you meant fork seals, but I bet you are talking about the driver tool. Anything plastic that won’t scratch the fork is fair game friend
@xv8852 Жыл бұрын
6:07 I just got the collar tube removed and there's no "black slidy bit" on it......? I really hope someone can help me out in figuring out why tf that's not on mine
@IanLandesman Жыл бұрын
The bike rode fine without it? What year/model? I'll see if I can find out.
@xv8852 Жыл бұрын
@@IanLandesman just bought the bike (paid way too much for it lol) it's a 2004 BUELL XB9S, bike rides like trash, but I assume that's just because of the blown fork seals, hard to say though since I've never ridden it while it was in tip-top shape
@IanLandesman Жыл бұрын
@@xv8852 it should ride really well. I guess you need those bushings.
@xv8852 Жыл бұрын
@@IanLandesman any clue what the particular bit is called? Im trying to find a listing but don't know what it's called nor what it looks like since I don't have an example in my hands
@xv8852 Жыл бұрын
@@IanLandesman so now I've disassembled the other fork and that one also does not have the slidy bit over the collar tube, maybe it just wasn't implemented for the 2004 model year?
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