And your going to be rebuilding that fence over and over. Not sure what you are using tar, caps and wraps for.

@@jeremyschaffer6708 Tar for rot prevention will make cedar posts last 25 years

I wish I could hire these guy to build my fence, I don't think they would come to Alberta Canada

How do you precoat?

@@trehobbs6568 Tar. If it's hot enough you can just use a brush from the can, if too firm or colder you can add a small about of kerosene. I just do the part from ground level down, however back in the day (and still some now) the hole thing along with the cross boards to keep the horses from chewing on them. You can do a bunch of posts for less than half the price of one of those high $$ metal ones.

@@Bwanar1 thanks!!

Thanks, I was about to shell out for a large gate and was thinking of getting two and mating them and putting cement in the cavity but wood prices are coming down so I’ll just stick with dimensional timber, tar it up

@@cousin_JACK "What in Tar Hills??" I'm too far gone with the wood posts quote. Customer will faint if l switch it out now. That can of Tar is gonna save the day, Thanx for that hot tip!

All of that will help, but the post will still fail eventually.

The fact that you have to do allll that is more reason to avoid wood. Spend a few bucks more and use metal.

@@lHurtYourFeeIings Good point! I guess the only reasons to choose wood would be aesthetics and availability of materials.

@@DavidKlausa PostMasters is in Home Depots and Lowe's. I have build all three side fences with it in my house. The only reason contractors use wood is so it'll fail in 10-15 years. If you are a homeowner doing DIY why bother with wood.

@@lHurtYourFeeIings Didn't realize that - thanks!

🤣 Will do!

He'll do it, post haste.

Well that stinks. Were you using PostMasters or a different brand? Were you spaced 8-feet apart or less? PostMasters are rated for 70-mph winds. To be fair, I've seen 4x4's snap like tooth picks in a wind storm. The choice is yours on what post to use. If we install in a known windy area that could have an effect on the integrity of the post, we will consider shrinking the post spacing, but we haven't seen one fail yet.

We have mixed them with corrugated steel! Just recently. Video on that coming out in the next month or so. 👍🏻

@@SWiFence perfecto!! 👌🏽 Can’t wait to see how it turns out.

You need some round pipe.

None yet--sorry.

I'm building one this weekend using corrugated steel roofing. I may be able to make a video. If I don't, it's pretty straightforward. Instead of using pickets or wood planks, use the metal roofing cut at 6 ft. Each section would consist of 4- 6 ft tall panels. Touch it up and make it look nice with anything else you want.

It depends on what the customer wants, but typically we follow the roll of the ground but still try to smooth it out. So each post inserted roughly the same distance, but adjusted a little to smooth out the rolls.

100% agree!

Many thanks!

We do ship (freight is included but it does add up): bit.ly/postmasterposts

In Ft. Lauderdale I always buy them at Lowes

@@kingalainc1 unFortunately the Lowe’s where I’m located and also the Home Depot do not have the sizes that I need

@@Rod7355 if hight is the issue, there are videos showing how to easily extend the hight

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks!

I never have. Just keep in mind it's only going to be as solid as the wall is currently. (Actually, it's only going to be as solid as the wall is currently with the added stress of the wind load you're about to add from the fence.)

You will need the retaining wall engineered to be able to do that.

I wouldn't use a single post master for more than a 5' gate. Other than that you can double them up (facing in opposite directions, bolted together), or PostMaster does sell a gate post as well.

Depends on how invested you are in longevity and lower cost of repair down the road.

Do they have them at local big box stores?

No way. These are $40 at HD. You are living in the past if you think you can get 10 wood posts for that. Maybe 2 if you are lucky.

​@@Luckingsworth4*4*10' pressure treated is 15 bucks at home Depot near me. Not ten for the price of one but the point still stands..those things are hella expensive lolol

The ones at home Depot are 40 bucks a post

Tends to not be too far off from each other. What you save in labor you pay for in steel and vice versa.

Good question--I don't know. We switched to Trident steel posts. I imagine the original postmasters would do fine for you.

doesn’t matter, the elements will still rot away the wood underneath. Steel will last much longer

Steel doesn't rot so how can wood compare?

Saying wood eventually rots is like saying steel eventually rusts. Galvanized, Hot-Dipped, even Stainless eventually rusts, but there's kind of an important detail about pressure treated lumber that people seem to be missing here... Alot of the pressure treated lumber that's sold in the US is actually covered by a lifetime warranty against rot, fungal decay, and termite attack. Basically the only thing that voids the warranty is not going back to seal your cuts. So don't forget to seal your end cuts and you're set for life!! So I guess maybe that's one way that wood compares to steel?

@@KB-ie7jr "set for life"? I don't know man. I just bought a house and all the fence pole were rotten from the base. I checked Google map and compared the history, the poles were installed around 15 years ago, all rotten and falling where the wood meets surface level, the wood Inside the dirt were all fine. Now about "life time warranty", what life time warranty when you don't even see a product label on it after 15 years? Wood is wood how are you going to know what brand it was. LOL

​@@lHurtYourFeeIings I honestly can't tell if you're trying to make a case against the lifetime warranty being a thing or if you're just sharing anecdotal stories instead. I'll respond to both I guess. So congrats on the new house purchase and product warranties in general don't transfer along with the re-sale, they only apply to the original owner but you can always check. Every piece of lumber is required to have a grade stamp which also includes the mill or manufacturer identification as well, so that's how you know what "brand" it was. And even if you didn't, just about every warranty claims process anywhere requires you to have the original purchase receipt. Nobody expects the product label to still be on after 15 years. I mean you don't keep the barcode labels on all the items you buy and still wrapped in cellophane right? And finally, I'm not exactly sure what you were getting at with the last coments but the lifetime warranty is still possible without a product label and wood can still rot when it has a lifetime warranty, these things aren't mutually exclusive. LOL

We use them in Wyoming's high winds. We use them in Florida. We love them. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hcmiapZ90tWdf2w.html

No, I think they only go up to 12'. I think I'd bracket to a round pipe fence at that point. That's... that's a high fence. I'm assuming that's not for a backyard?

That size used to be $25 at Lowes in 2021. Now they don't carry them at all.

If we're setting in concrete the post goes 18" into the concrete but the concrete goes down 32"-34". If we're driving, we drive roughly 36". You want to get below frost line.

Where you're picketing both sides? Yeah--for sure. 👍🏻

Good question 👀 fallowing

Depends on the fence. Generally 8', but 6' for horizontal cedar or higher-wind areas.

@@SWiFence thank you for the clarification.

Well, we can ship them to you (bit.ly/postmasterposts). If the price is too high for you, you could try finding and using chain link fence posts with wood adapter brackets. If you have to use wood try applying some treatment to the part going into the ground.

Yes you can set them out of line in a twist to compensate for a curve.

@@SWiFenceappreciate the response! Any chance you have made a video showing how to do this?

No I'm afraid we haven't, but we'll try to work it into the schedule. It's a pretty popular question.

$40 at HD

Really surprised no other vender makes and distribute a like and similar to "Postmasters", but hey still a great video.

We think so. We even tested it to make sure: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hcmiapZ90tWdf2w.html

Probably not a great fit for oceanside. Anything that's not stainless steel or aluminum will corrode.

That's a toughie. We're not aware of a postmaster adapter for Titan. If there is one--we can't promise it's a good combo. Not all drivers perform well with postmasters.

If it were me I would go with the 10-footers and get a nice solid foundation. Unfortunately they are more expensive, especially right now (the materials market has been... less than stable shall we say).

@@SWiFence thanks for the quick reply, trying to debate if my effort and time, renting an auger, digging, concrete etc is worth the cost of those 10fters haha. Such a cool product though!

🤣 That's... that is pretty good!

Why did you post that?

We can definitely ship them. Call the shop on Monday and ask about quantity discounts. Opens at 8:30 Mountain Time. 307-578-8040

If you're buying, from us: bit.ly/swidrivers If you just want to use one for a one-time small job, try calling around tool rental stores and fence companies in your area. 👍🏻

Buy once, cry once. Shipping a 7’ , 25lb post isn’t cheap and we include that in the price.

That's frustrating. 😞 You can also buy them from us (pricing includes freight): bit.ly/postmasterposts

What do we know. We only do this for a living.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hcmiapZ90tWdf2w.html

We ship to folks who can't get them in their local area (and we have to pay to ship them in, and then out again). If you can find them in your local area you can save considerably. Why not try seeing if your local tool shop has a driver for rent? Then you don't have to buy it at all.

😏 Yes, unfortunately we can't offer steel at the same prices we can offer wood. It's a premium product designed to simply life after install. It's all we use--but we do understand it can't be everybody's choice.

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Source them locally--you can get them much cheaper. We sell them to folks who can't find them in their area. It stings when we have to ship them in and then ship them out again. Steel doesn't ship cheap.

A mobile home is $120,000 and a house is $350,000. You get what you pay for. No shame in the mobile home but don't pretend it's the same.

Source them locally, they'll be much cheaper. It stings when we have to ship them in and then ship them out again.

More like 20-35 at a supplier bro lol well worth it

Was $65 not that long ago.

​@matthewsimonds5272 where can I find a supplier

Not everyone is going to have a ‘supplier’. These are not near me and the custom pounder definitely is not.

@@mrjujuice5484 You can get a very similar post for 60 bucks at Lowes. Not sure how to get them in the ground. I think I would dig and set them with concrete anyway.

I just paid $49 a piece for the 8' posts. They were $39 each pre-PLANdemic.

Lowe's $29 year 2022.

All I got from this comment is that you're fine with it failing eventually.

@@SWiFence i mean to a certain extent the metal will fail too. Rust buddy. Wood Last longer if treated properly shoot oil and gas will protect that from rot for at least 100 years

Is post master better then round steel post . And is ok to go 8 feet instead of 6 feet panels

@@n-e-u-t-r-a-l_-2039 Lie. There's not an intact wood fence post on earth from 1922. Lucky to get one from 1975.

Don't take these post personal, your video was great.@@SWiFence