No worries. You just need to download more ram.

Ah yes, the good old "Every application will eventually be written in JavaScript".

this is why, as a MERN developer, I started learning Rust :)

And this is why every desktop app now uses at least 300mb of RAM, now matter how simple they are.

"You can build desktop applications…." Me: Wow, somebody realised that web development is not the only type of software development in the world, and that there are still people who develop apps, gotta hear about that "… with JavaScript" Me: WTF

Now I understand why VS code eats all of my ram

I very much like apps that use tauri or edge webview since they tend to run much faster because they strip unnecessary components Also for those wondering there are multiple webview libraries There’s Tauri with Rust and JS/TS Wails with Go and JS/TS If you bother searching you’ll probably find a version for a language you’re familiar with

Chromium will just destroy your ram in seconds

You’re shortz videos are so useful for beginners

I used Tauri for my internship, built an app that controls the workflow of a medical device, it was a good choice I made I think because it was really easy to use and you don't even need to learn rust as you can just ignore the default rust backend and use your own NodeJS one for example, and no rust coding needed.

I've worked with ElectronJS por a months, and I just loved, because de benefit of a desktop app is that you won't need a Back-end server, the "back-end" is the machine of the client xd

hey could you tell us how you research new programming libraries or frameworks.

I started to learn tauri yesterday. Very good system and you can use it with full rust just perfect

Tauri is awesome !

These shorts are great. Keep it up ✊✊

I still in shock when i knew we actually are all writing code in a web browser 😅

I actually wrote an application in TypeScript using GTK4 as a front-end and it works really well. No electron or browser renderer involved.

node-webkit aka nw.js is way better and faster than electron, plus it support a compilation from js to binary and include this files into ur js code.

I am actually building an application for my client using Tauri. It is fantastic and v2.0 is around the corner. I would personally not choose electron over Tauri.

As a start what is the first thing to learn

Yesss Tauri. I transferred over to it shortly after starting with Electron

A good atlernative is Tauri, u can us react and build desktop app that will compile to rust

Just when i was looking for how to build desktop application. Lewis you are awesome😃.

That villager sound hits hard.

There is one thing that few people know about. One library that is the one that could fix the issues of Electron. This library has Rust as a backend, JS as a frontend And Tao and Wri for the replacement fro Chromium. It is the perfect library for building desktop apps with JS, but no one uses it. It's called Tauri lol

And this is why most modern apps are extremely slow

The world doesn't need more electron apps.

electron apparently has some silly security vulnerabilities right now, I'll have to check out tauri - thanks!

ElectronJS is a really cool thing, coz you can create a sigle codebase for backend and a sigle codebase, written in beloved html and css for frontend. The main problem is that it uses Chromium. So, we could say that installing and electron app technically equals to installing a new browser to your system

This is why I will only learn HTML

Tauri still uses a browser. It says on their website. It's just smaller bundle size because it uses whatever your OS already has...

electron is good but it takes up so much ram and space because it comes with chromium so thats why i like to use tauri and yeah it is really good

Hey Lewis,Which softwares do you use to edit your videos?

Keep up, person. Compose multi-platform is all the meat now

My job is to build desktop apps. The customer’s ram limits aren’t my problem.

I used Tauri a couple of times, the bundle size and ram usage are orders of magnitude smaller than Electron. It is already stable and should be a no brainer choice for any js+desktop app

Please keep in mind that Google Chrome is NOT THE SAME as Chromium. Chromium is an open source proyect, which was used as a base to create Google Chrome, Edge and other web browsers. Please dont confuse them as they are not the same

There’s also neutralinoJS but I used tauri mostly

You can also use tauri (which is rust based as much as i remember)

Someone actually did a benchmark with both And the memory and resource hogging is the nearly same between them

if React-Native had Windows…

If it's going to end up bloating my pc with chromium, I'm fine not building it

imo nwjs is a lot simpler, very good for beginners

Nice Video

Do you know elm ? Functional langage that compiles in js. Its quite good. I think you might be able to do a video about it

I'm curently build POS app using tauri + next.js. And that's fun. Just got some bug like notification suddenly missing on tauri, gonna wait for tauri 2

so that's how Discord's web app is basically the same as the desktop application

You can also use wails with Golang, since Golang is much closer to javascript and typescript than rust, it will feel more familiar

Have you tried Tauri or Electron 🤔

Electron: Good for developers, bad for customers

What about neutralino? Same benefits as tauri but still entirely js like electron

Qt for C++💪💪💪

Tauri is very fast but notification click is not working on that. And it makes it useless for you to make information based app

Neutralino JS is also a great option, it works really well with smaller application size and memory footprint

But Can I make game engine like Unity or Godot out of JavaScript?

very good. I from in brazil

Tauri is going to be annoying to test for different OSs, especially for Linux where there is multiple webview runtimes for different Desktop Enviroments

In some sense, Chromium could be considered a runtime dynamically-linked library dependency. So in the future it should be possible to *compile HTML+CSS+JS* statically-linked with Chromium, with some LTO (Link Time Optimization), to get a native app without bloat. It is already possible to compile Javascript to machine-code, even easier if you put type constraints (TypeScript) and forbid `eval`, and delete `Function.prototype.toString`

Electron is supposedly a better option than the legacy option of Cordova, but with "web" apps there is always going to be limitations on what you can do in javascript, especially around interacting with the operating system. With my Cordova app, which also runs a web app in a container, you can't do anything to directly browse the user's storage to load/save files because the embedded web browser hosting the app has built in security features blocking the "web" application from accessing anything on the system. In order to get my app to work (on my android phone), I had to create a plugin using Java which saves the files, and Cordova had to load that plugin to use within my app. Very difficult way to develop the app IMO.

i love electron

I feel like just when you're about to understand this one thing, and then suddenly something new comes up to replace the very thing you're learning. Feels very demotivating and hopeless because how can we ever catch up

That's what makes me concerned when making desktop app with electronjs. So I stick to the native language instead.

How you create an application on desktop using visual studio code

Arch Linux does Electron right, by making you have the version installed, and not installing it again and again for each program that uses it

When we call him out for calling electron lightweight he uses it as new content idea kekw

Talk about flutter plzz

Say it with me everyone: "Chromium is not the same as Google Chrome!" Also, just use PWA apps. "Installs" instantly, appears like a native app and doesn't package another browser when you already have one. Plus, you literally just use the same code as your web version.

VS Code is written in ElectronJS btw

Electron is laggy

Can someone explain to me what's the electron on this video mean, i mean it's that same electron on atom? How it's works

We used to do this with Flash...

Modifying your apps using other forms of chromium that's more lightweight like thorium

oh wow, built in telemetry

🧐🤔 still needs optimization, but could mean near native execution

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electron amd react with atom symbol. when a chemistry student becomes a developer this happens

When you know how to use a hammer everything looks like a nail

gotta micromanage every last bit of that memory you're using

Very great app are made with electron. But they are slow as hell and try to enshittify easily. I'm lookin at you "MS Teams"!

See, that's why if you're big brain you only package the entire Skia with your application :)

One huge downside: “It’s slow”

ElectronJS ships Chromium (for frontend) and Nodejs (for backend) If you ever feel stupid, just remember this

Wait, is it just me or did the progress bar really overflow after the chrome memes?

Can you do a video explaining if one needs a degree to enter the field?

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I have made an app with a combination of Google app script. How I can make a software ?

When is Firefox going to make its own what ever it is that chromium has?

Like oh my god

Tauri looking promising but why would developers learn rust while electron providing a single stack (js).

If possible where is the source of your information

Or we use Flutter and than ship a nativ application for every os.

VSCode does NOT use Electron. They forked a small part of it

How about just don’t use JavaScript? I guess it’s being used for more than what it’s worth 🤮🤮🤮 One reason why chrome uses so much RAM is because of the slow JavaScript calls. People should start realising that JavaScript is actually just best suited for the web, not much else.

idk why everyones hating soo much, really cool reliable apps are built on electron

Does Tauri use monads though? :^)

what about Dart ,flutter and Xamarain

I would like to use flutter :)

Talk more about tauri

Or you can use C and SDL2 as always :)

I prefer Tauri over electron