Building A Budget NAS with TrueNAS Scale

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Hardware Haven

Hardware Haven

2 жыл бұрын

CORRECTIONS:
- at 2:18, I mention using identical drives. It seems like many people actually recommend using slightly different drives, or at least drives that weren't made at roughly the same time to better avoid both drives failing within a short time span of one another.
- at 11:20, I use cloudflare's DNS(1.1.1.1), but this might cause issues with certain routers. Use your router's IP address here as well.
I decided to give TrueNAS Scale a try on the HP Pavilion 500-c60 (I called it the 500-a60 in previous videos, which is essentially the same model).
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Music (in order):
"Hardware Haven Theme" - Me
"Sunshower" - LATASHÁ( / latasha-sunshower )
"If you want to" - Me
"CRENSHAW VIBES" - GARRISON ( / garrison-brown )
"The Butterfly Nose" - GARRISON
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:32 The System
1:34 What I'd Like To Beat
1:50 Upgrades
3:43 Some Issues Issues
4:33 Disclaimer
5:01 Installation
8:37 Setting an IP Address
11:33 Credentials - Group
12:08 Credentials - User
12:48 Creating a Pool and Dataset
14:34 Setting up SMB
17:00 Notes on Apps, VMs
17:22 Protection and Backup
18:02 Synology Comparisons
20:17 Closing Thoughts

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@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Check the description for updates/corrections!
@bigdamnhero2297
@bigdamnhero2297 2 жыл бұрын
Nearly half a dozen NAS videos on KZfaq, but everyone including yours skips the most important part of setting it up so it's accessible from outside of the home network, would you mind covering that as well? Thanks.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigdamnhero2297 I wouldn't necessarily say it's the most important part, as there are many reasons why you maybe WOULDN'T want that, but I totally understand why you would! There are many different ways of doing it. I personally prefer using a VPN server like wireguard so that I can tunnel into my local network and access it vs doing some port forwarding or something. I'd like to get a wireguard video made, but in the meantime maybe look into that. Techno Tim has a solid video on it if I remember correctly
@Traumatree
@Traumatree 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigdamnhero2297 That's not the most important part, but more the more dangerous part that no one should do because 99% of you out there don't know how to configure networking, setup security rules properly or don't really know what they are doing.
@rudiansyahsyah9738
@rudiansyahsyah9738 2 жыл бұрын
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@iwantitpaintedblack
@iwantitpaintedblack 21 күн бұрын
Problems i had following this Tutorial, and how i solved them: While trying to boot from USB, Selected boot image could not be Authenticated - Turned off SecureBoot GRUB Error Unknown Filesystem - Used Balena Etcher instead of Rufus Web interface could not be accessed - Used archive and installed an Older version of TrueNAS Install failed - Tried again i was nanometers away before throwing everything in the trash filled with rage, but somehow through clever googling it worked. Linux always Frustrates me.
@benpatch8692
@benpatch8692 2 жыл бұрын
Super easy, next level trick. TrueNAS loves quick NICs and ECC RAM. NASs love stable power supplies and nice drive mounts. How to get this for $100 or less? Used Sandy Bridge or Ivy Bridge workstations. HP Z420s, Z220s (with Xeons and ECC) or their Dell/Lenovo equivalents? Tons of space for drives, spare SATA ports, Intel NICs, great power supplies and cheap ECC RAM for expansion. I’ve built a pile of budget NASs with them, not a single issue with any of them. Bonus - on larger stations you’ve got spare PCIe 3.0 slots for a cheap NVME L2 cache drive. For power considerations? I’ll snag a Xeon L series chip off eBay for $10 that takes total draw down to near nothing. And then the massive factory heatsink for a 130-40w workstation cpu gives you even more thermal headroom.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’m definitely going to keep an eye out
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 жыл бұрын
That ECC RAM, dirt cheap compared to the desktop stuff.
@nhdoom8368
@nhdoom8368 9 ай бұрын
Hey can I message you to get more info on this? I'm trying to build a dort cheap NAS and I'm a bit lost
@sozonpv
@sozonpv 7 ай бұрын
Love to see video on this especially an occasional dual windows boot.
@sephthesatanist6558
@sephthesatanist6558 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. I built a TrueNAS server I've had for years now with an FX-4130, 24tb (3x 12tb in RaidZ) storage, a 500gb SSD cache drive (had one on hand that I figured I might as well use), etc. and it's my baby. Even if you only have a couple tb, a NAS server is a fantastic use for old-ish hardware.
@osilencerl3751
@osilencerl3751 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a joy to watch and I love seeing these projects that pretty much anyone can try given it doesn’t require a huge budget. Thanks for your time and effort! Looking forward to the next one!
@FerrariFloris
@FerrariFloris 2 жыл бұрын
So helpful and insightful. Thank you for these vids on your homemade NAS. Doing basically the same for the first time, so it's great to be a part of your journey!
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard haha
@cabosh
@cabosh Жыл бұрын
As much as I enjoy watching videos showing off expensive hardware with insane performance, I absolutely loved seeing this video making use of old hardware with cost and power consumption in mind. This just feels way more realistic which is awesome. Loved the video, gained a new subscriber!
@MatharuCH
@MatharuCH 2 жыл бұрын
You're one of my favorite channels, and it's sooo underrated! Much love from Brazil
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Obrigado!
@That-Pig
@That-Pig 2 жыл бұрын
Discovered your channel of of your last video, really love the format, and the content! Very underrated!
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it, and thanks for the comment!
@dirk1118
@dirk1118 8 ай бұрын
I'm almost 2 years late to the party, but awesome video. This video inspired me to build a NAS using an old Dell workstation that was just collecting dust in a closet. Now I have a cheap 8TB NAS on my network. Thank you sir!
@zyghom
@zyghom Жыл бұрын
30W for the system that is in 99% idle is no-go. Buy a SBC (RPi4 or even better Orange Pi 5) and do this storage on them. Of course not on TrueNAS but maybe openvault. Power consumption when idle:
@Austin-xx2nu
@Austin-xx2nu Ай бұрын
The drives themselves pull probably close to 20w... Assuming he is not setting them to spin down when idle, which he doesn't mention doing.
@Adarshthehero4u
@Adarshthehero4u 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation and good to see the channel grow. 🎉🎉
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@INJOONKIM
@INJOONKIM Жыл бұрын
This video is THE most helpful one when I install Truenas Scale first time with only trivial experience with Synology, QNAP and WD My Cloud. Thank you so much for explaining the process in a novice viewpoint.
@mcearth3592
@mcearth3592 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, relaxing and BS free !!
@mrkgrmn3
@mrkgrmn3 2 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen on getting started with TrueNAS!
@LeeZhiWei8219
@LeeZhiWei8219 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I saw from this channel and you piqued my interest. Subscribed! Keep up the good work dude.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@scootergirl3662
@scootergirl3662 4 ай бұрын
This is a really great video - it explains a lot of things that many other people just assume you already know
@AzzyDremurr
@AzzyDremurr 2 жыл бұрын
Some time ago, I made myself my own servers out of old laptops. The most important thing for me, was to make them as much power efficient as possible. So I basically I stripped them down, leaving only parts, that were needed for them to run. So I ended up with a laptop without touchpad, keyboard, sound card, wi-fi card, nor a screen. It's a Lenovo G580 with a Celeron processor, so at idle with a headless ubuntu server install it only uses aprox. 8 Watts. And frankly, that's enough for a vpn, dns, Minecraft and some other things to tinker with, when I feel like it. I recommend everyone to try it out!, and since it's really power efficient maybe even use it as some kind of home server?
@sidorgeorge
@sidorgeorge 2 жыл бұрын
While I admire the initiative to save power, I really don't see the point of removing a laptops keyboard, touchpad, or screen. A keyboard and touchpad use no power to speak of, and the screen can turn itself off also. And having those three things can make troubleshooting easier when necessary.
@JailerGamer
@JailerGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@sidorgeorge ig better cooling and u can plug in the monitor back whenever u want to
@rokiedecentra9656
@rokiedecentra9656 2 жыл бұрын
@@JailerGamer i run a laptop server with the lid closed and removing all that would not do much, its easy to add additional fans which i highly recommend as well as heat sinks to components that get hot found some real hot inductors and the chipset... Removing all that will definitely be a pain when something happens to it and yeah the consume no power so pointless to remove them
@harryeffingpotter
@harryeffingpotter 10 ай бұрын
I audibly cheered out loud when I saw you use studio one. ONE OF US
@coltonstevens4790
@coltonstevens4790 2 жыл бұрын
just wanted to say thanks, I was trying to get it to work and you tutorial was amazing!!!!
@MrEd-qg8td
@MrEd-qg8td 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Something i have been wanting to do for a while. Now i have a guide. Many thanks
@dennisolsson3119
@dennisolsson3119 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience (at home, as sysadmin and as a vent for other sysadmins): matching drives too good is not good. The closer they are, the more equal they are in flaws and expected lifespan. Personally I like to make sure they are at least from different dates, but even better is different series. An alternative can be to, once things are set up, either change one drive after a while or run it degraded, if your data is not super critical. It makes the drives diverge and hopefully not fail together. A former colleague got an error from a raid. When he switched the drives and let the raid rebuild the next drive failed... And I think even more drives failed before the whole thing was up and running again. It might be uncommon, but if it's possible to work around, I would do that.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
That’s probably a good point. I’ve heard similar things recently. I’ll have a correction in the description. Thanks!
@entelin
@entelin 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree. You should never run it degraded except for replacing disks. Most arrays are run on basically identical drives, and while yes, there is greater concurrence when using identical disks (critically true of SSD's) the general timeframe of failure will be similar. Which is why you don't wait until you have a failure to replace some disks. Make an estimate of how long disks will last, and then schedule replacements accordingly. So funny story on this, Synology created a proprietary array type called F1 specifically to "address" this issue on SSDs, which due to the way they work, have a higher liklihood of failing at around the same time. It works by basically writing more to one disk at a time, therefore aging them out ununiformly. The only way it can know which is the oldest disk to age out is via the disks smart stats. So we can write that another way: "Synology F1 intentionally damages disks, to get them to fail" it's an idiotic scheme, because using that same smart data you could just instruct the user to replace disks *without damaging it first*, without creating an actual real failure. The user would then have the option of re-purposing the disk for the remainder of it's lifespan in some low usage/non critical situation. SSD's make this need obvious, but it's always been true for spinning disks, and large environments will replace on a schedule, not wait for the whole array to be run into the ground.
@dennisolsson3119
@dennisolsson3119 2 жыл бұрын
Very good points! The F1 feature sounds like a quick and dirty solution and horrible for real life. "Running degraded" as i am strongly for depend on the system and setup and might not actually be degraded. A raid 6 is easy to run somewhat safe degraded with new disks. A raid 1 can be run for a while with one disk being a desktop computer disk used for a while and then swapped for the real disk etc. And of course there is a huge difference in doing this at home where money is an issue and downtime probably is not. Also doing this with 2-5 disks are much easier than 100. : ) This is also one reason I really like btrfs. With it I can start with 2 disks for a month, change one for a new, run for 2 months, and then re- add the replaces to continue on 3 disks. All without degradation nor downtime. And it is good for unmatched disks in terms of space usage. Maybe not an issue in the beginning, but when upgrading to newer drives or expanding.
@INJOONKIM
@INJOONKIM Жыл бұрын
Another reason you don't want to use exactly same model is that you don't know which one you replace when one of them dies. While synology has dedicated number tagged bays, this home built NAS doesn't have numbering on its drives.
@joey_f4ke238
@joey_f4ke238 11 ай бұрын
@@INJOONKIM The SMART data should be more than enough to identify the fault
@westleyhurtgen4275
@westleyhurtgen4275 13 күн бұрын
This is definitely one of those "yes you can, but tou shouldn't" instances. Definitely cool how much you did with so little.
@Primant
@Primant Жыл бұрын
This was great to watch! thank you!
@ElZamo92
@ElZamo92 2 жыл бұрын
I made one of these not long ago for my workplace. We needed to have everyone’s work backed up somewhere so I grabbed some old components I had in a drawer and built a kickass TrueNAS server. Now everyone in the office has a backup of their work.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@3nertia
@3nertia 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask where you work or at least what sort of work you do? What's your "workplace"?
@Mygame2play
@Mygame2play 2 ай бұрын
he's never going to answer that
@josecobos5430
@josecobos5430 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I mounted my TrueNAS on an old Phantom case and AMD A8-7600 for fun and I liked it a lot, I also have an ASUSTOR and TrueNAS really has very good performance. Thanks for sharing !
@YvcTech
@YvcTech Жыл бұрын
Hello! Great channel! I have used your video to set up Truenas scale on a server at our church. It works great for saving all of our muntimedia video and audio files
@OliB150
@OliB150 2 жыл бұрын
The algorithm brought me here, probably because I watched LTT’s NAS video recently and it is well timed as I am putting serious consideration into it at the moment. This video really nicely covered the config side of it and I may go try to dig out my old PC from the loft and see what can be done (though it’s back from the Win XP era!)
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
You’d be surprised what it might be capable of! Though power draw might be a little high haha
@austindiconti4496
@austindiconti4496 Жыл бұрын
Been avoiding creating a NAS for the longest time. Thank you for the video, going to actually attempt it now.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Best of luck
@VishnuPrasad-cl8hg
@VishnuPrasad-cl8hg Жыл бұрын
Thanks alot I had made TrueNas as per ur guidelines...perfectly working and very much helpful
@Joemama-km9np
@Joemama-km9np Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your easy to follow real world guide. Too many other youtubers speak to their audience like were all full stack developers instead of home jobbers!
@matthewb1601
@matthewb1601 Жыл бұрын
Man I feel like even more of a home jobber, because this was too much. I followed his steps to set a static IP address and ended up bricking the NAS. One re-install later, and I think I'm just going to leave the default DHCP settings going forward. XD
@Geniusinventor
@Geniusinventor 2 жыл бұрын
Man, this is soo new and interesting to me thank you for this video I appreciate it.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Geniusinventor
@Geniusinventor 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven affirmative!
@MrOSGamer
@MrOSGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am planning on using TrueNAS. Very helpful.
@metrotechguru5863
@metrotechguru5863 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video with good pacing and pleasant narration.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@IronwingTechHaven
@IronwingTechHaven 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a cool build and comparison.
@mohammadharib4914
@mohammadharib4914 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was pretty helpful. I kind of needed help with this truenas thingy and this helped me out!
@peterl8417
@peterl8417 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a step by step to get up and runnning a custom NAS.
@cap737
@cap737 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the content 👍 keep up the great work.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@poromise
@poromise 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Makes me want to try TrueNAS.
@cherelakaje4446
@cherelakaje4446 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your content bro, you've earned my sub and like all the way from South Africa.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Haha that’s awesome. It’s an honor
@ArifKhan-bp9zx
@ArifKhan-bp9zx 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to see you are making great videos
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Ah thanks 👍🏻
@TheRealKidRed_
@TheRealKidRed_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, as an digital artist, I have only 25 gb left on my computer because of all the space my art takes up in the 1 tb drive, and this cleared up so much space.
@alexzoin
@alexzoin 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this channel!
@bub_sy
@bub_sy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this you've answered a problem I was having with samba access 👍
@adrianoaguilar9012
@adrianoaguilar9012 Жыл бұрын
Excelllent video, I learned a lot from it You got a new sub keep doing what you doing master
@CMDRJosh
@CMDRJosh Жыл бұрын
this video is better and easier to follow than the one actually published by TrueNAS
@oneito947
@oneito947 2 жыл бұрын
found a new gem on this channel, i am keeping you.
@RobertGossCreator
@RobertGossCreator 11 ай бұрын
You did a great job my friend thank you
@egbusmoney
@egbusmoney Күн бұрын
This video was a big help. Thank you.
@mamathesh
@mamathesh 10 ай бұрын
Nice explanation for beginners, Thanks
@itsoverat6000
@itsoverat6000 Жыл бұрын
I love the video, Sir!
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 жыл бұрын
That's astonishing. I never would want to start with this hardware but your results speak for themselves. However I would recommend a couple of improvements. First with the 5.25" to 3.5" you could have chosen one that fitted inside the bay so you could keep the nice front panel. Secondly you could have booted from stubby USB sticks in mirror thus making the build cheaper and cleaner. I don't know if Scale still installs on USB but Core does and it's fine, just use Sandisk and it will be fine.
@phoneguy2005
@phoneguy2005 2 жыл бұрын
i just found this channel but i love your content. i gotta learn how to make a nas as i have a bunch of hardware old and new lying around
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Enjoy messing around with it, it's fun
@funky4733
@funky4733 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video Bro
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@m4nc1n1
@m4nc1n1 Жыл бұрын
I just installed both. Scale is the way to go!
@chichudox
@chichudox 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide, please keep going :D
@kennbiz
@kennbiz 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes Studio one Daw, a man of culture. Great daw mate
@alexclifford2485
@alexclifford2485 5 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic video. I thought the NASes on the market were expensive, while the old desktop hardware is sitting unloved and is more upgradeable or has better specs than the NASes. Really brilliant, kinda janky setup, but it works well. As for the read/write speeds - I've noticed that empty HDDs read/write quicker than those with data on - like your synology drives which I presume were not empty. Something I read said that the outer tracks of the disk are wider and bigger (on those circular platters) - so you can move more data. As you fill up the drive, the drive uses more of the central tracks, which has a smaller circumference, which means the speeds slow down. It's something I've noticed as I've used drives and filled them up more.
@AlexSwavely
@AlexSwavely 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't use the wifi card, you could swap it for a mini pcie ssd or sata controller card, and bypass the potential usb issue...
@donankeny5013
@donankeny5013 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO beat me to it by 11 hours!
@JoeMama-jb9kj
@JoeMama-jb9kj 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Why this isn't getting 100K+ views is beyond me
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Still a new channel, but thank you!
@kayneahnung3661
@kayneahnung3661 2 жыл бұрын
About boot devices: a cheap solution is to use 2 USB Sticks - they are easily fast enough for booting and would not influence general performance of your NAS. They are pretty cheap as well (you can use 2 32GB or even 16GB sticks). With two sticks you can even do a software raid1 (it is a bit tricky to duplicate the mbr in a way to get it booting if the stick with the master mbr fails). I did that a few times when I was short on SATA-Ports and unable to expand for some reason (e.g. with a Intel ATOM Board). There are also external cases that link two m2-sata keys to one raid1 (about $80, for example ORICO M2N210). More expensive but less headache getting it up and running.
@5izzy557
@5izzy557 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad YT recommended this to me, fantastic video. I'm hoping to set something up like this in the near future. This stuff is really cool.+1Like & Sub
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Best of luck with your own endeavor!
@MaxHDeveloping
@MaxHDeveloping Жыл бұрын
An alternative to the USB to SATA solution would be to use an SATA expansion card. Your motherboard sadly does not support PCIE... But if someone is looking for a better solution, this would be the better option.
@tehworldnosu
@tehworldnosu 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! 👍
@mrpddnos
@mrpddnos 2 жыл бұрын
I have actually been thinking of setting up a nas using truenas on a i5 9800X with 16GB ram I have laying around. This video made be decide to actually go do it!
@YvcTech
@YvcTech Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas!
@MikeBohde
@MikeBohde 8 ай бұрын
Welcome to the TrueNAS ecosystem. The great thing about this software is its versatility. It can deliver solid results for the new user repurposing spare equipment. When paired with more powerful equipment, and networking it can be nearly indistinguishable from internal storage.
@syedmuhammedabbasrizvi3900
@syedmuhammedabbasrizvi3900 Жыл бұрын
Loved your Content ❤️ ❤️👍👍❤️❤️
@unperrier5998
@unperrier5998 Жыл бұрын
With mirroring you should get double the speed when reading because it can use both disks. otoh writing on a raid1 requires to make sure both disks are written (in sync) before processing further writes, and thta can reduce overall throughput.
@catalystguitarguy
@catalystguitarguy 2 жыл бұрын
I did a DIY NAS build a few years ago with a ryzen 2400G, SFP+ 10gig NIC, an older Sun F80 800GB (4 x 200gb quad ssd) server ssd cache card, 32GB of ram, 4 seagate firecuda 2TB drives, and 4 x 4TB WD Red CMR drives. I set up up the firecuda's in a raid Z1 pool for more frequently accessed data and current projects, and the Red's as a Raid Z2 pool for longer term storage. also used the F80 to work as read cache, write cache, and meta data cache. with a pair of 30GB ssds as mirrored boot. the thing has been a beast of a work horse for the duration, and I just upgraded the CPU to a 5700G, picked up 2 pcie 3.0 x1 to quad sata adapters, and doubled the ram to 64GB. am planning on buying 4-8 8TB drives into a massive Raid Z2 pool for storage to offload everything I currently have and the repurpose the older drives, if they pass a durability test, to faster ssd cached quad mirror pools for VMs. hoping to pick up an X399 board and a first or second gen threadripper in the future with some LSI HBA cards and convert the NAS into a proper storage server in a many drive bay rack mount chassis once prices comes down a bit more.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
DANG. That's crazy! What do you primarily use it for?
@catalystguitarguy
@catalystguitarguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven Right now it's been mainly storage, Plex, Resolve finished projects, a copy of my game libraries, various installers for my programs, .iso's of various linux builds, images/snapshots for my other computers/raspberry pi's, an archive of radeon and radeon pro drivers going back 2 years, and my dmg files for my old mac pro with copies of 10.6 - current MacOS. I do a lot of data recovery, and repairs for friends and family so having space to copy data to and install onto a fresh drive is also nice. still have more plans for it hence the upgrade in the future. but for now it's doing a bangin job.
@catalystguitarguy
@catalystguitarguy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also one of the types who likes to run a clean boot drive with just the OS on it so being able to store copies of everything really helps when I do a quarterly clean windows or linux install. I've been big on data redundancy since college when I lost close to a TB of music and a couple TB of movies and tv shows along with nearly all my senior projects a week before finals due to a power outage killing my iMac
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@catalystguitarguy oof. Yeah I honestly need to be better with backups and redundancy. Horror stories like that should bring more fear to people, including myself haha. That’s an awesome setup you have! I’m always down to hear any other cool things you do with it in the future.
@catalystguitarguy
@catalystguitarguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven It’s fun experimenting and relieving to have backups. I’m using an old full tower CFI case I picked up from FB marketplace for $35 for it currently. It’s a CFI-A7007. It has 6 x 3.5” bays, 3 x 2.5” mounts, 4 x 5 1/4” bays, and 8 x 120mm fan mounts. I converted the 5 1/4” bays to a Quad 3.5” hot swap enclosure with 3 slots. And the remaining slot I put a quad 2.5” drive hot swap enclosure. The thing is a bit bulky but for drive capacity and cooling it’s hard to match. Short of one of those expensive fractal designs behemoths. I don’t think I’ve seen temps over 40C under heavier loads and sustained transfers.
@A_Commenting_Derp-face
@A_Commenting_Derp-face 2 жыл бұрын
Yo this is so well done! cant wait to see more from you!
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Hopefully more to come in the future
@_Teddy_The_Bear
@_Teddy_The_Bear 2 жыл бұрын
I did something similar with an old Dell tower, installed a 250gig SSD for the boot drive, and 3 8tb drives. Ended up with 24tb of storage. I thought about using a dedicated NAS OS, but I didn't have any trouble setting up Windows to share across my network. Seems to work fine with smart TV's and phones. The TV in the Living Room isn't a smart TV, so I put together a Small Form Factor PC for out there, wireless keyboard and you can do internet, PC gaming, and home school when the kids weren't allowed to attend in person classes.
@jantube358
@jantube358 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video! It would be nice to see nextcloud in addition. As far as I understand it, it should give you the function to add two-way-sync to folders on your PC.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to do something with nextcloud. From what I understand, it’s basically like Dropbox or Google drive, but self hosted. Could be really cool to try!
@tomaskner9537
@tomaskner9537 Жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven It would be a nice video. I tried Nextcloud on my old Lenovo laptop with AMD A10 and 256GB SSD just to see if it works. But I used a Ubuntu server, the setup was a little bit harder because It was my first encounter with CLI system only, but It worked fine, I did even setup a free domain and had acces to it over the internet. It can do also chat and video calls.
@daveladd7046
@daveladd7046 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job - very clear...Thank you..
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@JLCPCB
@JLCPCB 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video! 🙂
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@benhinton5475
@benhinton5475 2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@greygoose3936
@greygoose3936 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I have an older PC with an i7 2600 and I think I'll turn it into a Nas. I'm a photographer and I often find myself taking 500gb of photos each year so a Nas will really help me keep my data secure.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Definitely have another backup though especially if it’s data you rely on for work haha
@mrmotofy
@mrmotofy 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven I was in Puerto Rico for 1 week before taking a cruise. Using a AirBNB 5Mb internet I connected to my home server through my OpenVPN to upload a few GB of pics/video...in case something happened to my cam/laptop while on the cruise I didn't lose ALL my trip data. Very convenient. Have remote access to about 1.5TB of data from anywhere. We just need faster internet options. Primarily upload
@niyamimbi1179
@niyamimbi1179 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for this. Will try this out on an old laptop (reboxed somewhere) with an i5
@grimacedabassguy
@grimacedabassguy 2 жыл бұрын
Great step by step video! you’ve got me wanting to try this in my HP Pavilion i mentioned to you, except i don’t have usb 3.0 ports, may try that pci to usb 3 card. Also did i hear tebbabytes and not terabytes? 😂 Great video!
@blinddog1212
@blinddog1212 Жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you. I'm about to do this setup on a repurposed Dell server that I beefed up for such an occasion. I have a media backup on a 4 tb external drive that I'd like to copy over to the TrueNAS device pool storage. Is it possible to do that directly from the box itself or will I have to do it over the network to the SMB share?
@chao2win176
@chao2win176 2 жыл бұрын
tbh your voice is so calming
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I’m glad to hear that
@plexnbrown760
@plexnbrown760 Жыл бұрын
Jank is always way to go love the usb 3.0 Jank
@Richb711
@Richb711 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Nas enclosures are expensive especially if you want a higher bay count. The problems with custom ones are power consumption, size and heat. Haven't built a NAS in a while but when I had my Freenas server I ran it on a USB stick. I wouldn't know why the Synology is slower maybe you could open it and add more ram as a test. Also don't know if that SSD is doing some caching.
@bankruptsee
@bankruptsee 2 жыл бұрын
The appeal of Synology to me are the web based desktop, mobile apps for mobile file access, the surveillance station and mobile app, and Photos backup app. Synology is can be a complete cloud service replacement. TrueNAS works great while on premise, however. Love the options it provides. I opted to install Xpenology and make my own Synology with hardware decoding for PLEX and ability to use Docker containers and all of the Synology mobile apps. I get full speed read/write speeds.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agree! I won't be getting rid of my Synology anytime soon. The surveillance station alone is probably worth it.
@bankruptsee
@bankruptsee 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven Look into DSM7 redpill loader with Xpenology. Well worth building one that's for sure
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@bankruptsee Will do, thanks Mitch!
@wayland7150
@wayland7150 2 жыл бұрын
Ready built NAS are amazing for the hardware they use. The advantage of building your own is you can chuck better hardware at it for less money. I was amazed how well this one performed because you can't get much weaker hardware than this without going vintage.
@MaxUgly
@MaxUgly 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video! I am glad KZfaq suggested it, just subbed. I am building my system with an FX 8350. Quite the opposite of efficient. I am going to justify it to myself by running some jails or hopefully even Docker, now that I believe that is supported. I had a hard time with doing anything other than windows shares with FreeNAS.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! Definitely not efficient haha, but hopefully it works well for ya
@xPLAYnOfficial
@xPLAYnOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Those can work well for video rendering and other tasks that can leverage multiple cores.
@MrSupersidewinder
@MrSupersidewinder 2 жыл бұрын
XIGMA NAS AND OMV ARE VIABLE OPTIONS TOO... XIGMA NAS is a fork of freenas and was previously called nas4free. It has served me well for years. Omv runs on lighter hardware including ras pi's, also quite stable.
@VladislavKurashov
@VladislavKurashov 2 жыл бұрын
It will be hot baby) I also once had an 8350.
@MaxUgly
@MaxUgly 2 жыл бұрын
@@VladislavKurashov Yea, I forget the model but it has a big tower cooler. The mobo is a fatal1ty with all kinds of OC stuff in the bios. I was thinking of an underclock/volt. At least it isn't 9000 series I guess, haha
@jameskeel
@jameskeel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. You may want to try adding a third drive for raid setup and this may improve data xfer using all three drive. Just a though.
@RHYTHMMIXLIFE
@RHYTHMMIXLIFE 2 жыл бұрын
Tq bro for your information
@jaivaswani1817
@jaivaswani1817 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen your other video as well where you set up file sharing as well as plex on the same pavillion using ubuntu. So why exactly should we consider TrueNAS, are there any pros and cons of each that I'm not aware of ?
@76yacumo
@76yacumo 2 жыл бұрын
the layout sinds the update is a bit changed concerning static ip config. users and groups you can find in accounts, to look up your default gateway you can also use cmdprompt and then type ipconfig , further if you follow this tutorial you wil get this running, if i can you all can do this! Thanks Haven!
@max_uaminecraft1827
@max_uaminecraft1827 2 жыл бұрын
Hello there! Id like to make a suggestion. I have a similar truenas setup to yours, with 2 drives (although theyre 2 tb). I think the ssd would be much better used as a cache vdev for your main 2 hdds, this will help with sustaining gigabit speeds over longer file transfers after your ram fills up. you can put truenas on 2 usb 2.0 flash drives in raid 1, as the truenas operating system doesn't actually need fast storage to run on, and raid 1 will make sure that even if one of the usb drives dies after a couple of years there is always a backup.
@max_uaminecraft1827
@max_uaminecraft1827 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been running truenas off a usb stick for over a year now and no problems with speed and reliability so far.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting! Great idea. Pinned
@JFat5158
@JFat5158 2 жыл бұрын
Truenas isnt recommended to run off of usb drives. You may not encounter a problem but it still doesnt make it a good decision. In this vid from level1techs they encountered problems with it and truenas clarified theyd update the documentation to not recommend usb install anymore. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7p-eMin2LjPj3k.html
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@JFat5158 after looking back it it, it looks like they specifically recommend against using usb drives for data vdevs. I’m not sure if that includes the boot drive as well. If I had the ability not to use USB, I would 100% do that. But if you’re limited to it, it makes more sense to me to just use the boot drive over usb. Just a guess and opinion though 🤷🏻‍♂️
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@JFat5158 and to clarify, I can’t watch the video you sent currently, so I could be missing something in there. I’ll try to watch it later
@LucaHedger
@LucaHedger Жыл бұрын
I'm using this with a laptop is there a way to make so that I can close the lid and it will not shut down
@Grat1616
@Grat1616 Жыл бұрын
Followed you info to repurpose an old PC - step by step setup was invaluable for Truenas Scale. Bought a 256 gb drive fitst, and then purchased a 128gb drive for teh main Truenas boot. I want to add the 256 for additional apps - it was formatted by Trunas - any idea how to reformat? I cant see the drive, and have tried a few things but I'm not experienced enough to know how to recalim that drive. If I put in Truenas box, it gives an error with dual boot devices so cant format using Trunas in a single drive pool.
@JimAlaska49
@JimAlaska49 2 жыл бұрын
You convinced me, I'll buy a Synology :)
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it 👍🏻
@shubinternet
@shubinternet 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd suggest is mounting the two drives in the same orientation. It helps to have drives that are also designed for use in a NAS configuration, with additional vibration reduction rings to isolate the drive from the case.
@HardwareHaven
@HardwareHaven 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Do you mean the little rubber washer type things? I think I've seen some people claim that those can actually make vibrations potentially worse. Not for noise, but for the drive itself.
@shubinternet
@shubinternet 2 жыл бұрын
@@HardwareHaven -- yup, they look like little rubber washers. Some NAS-rated drives will already have those built into the internals of the case, and you won't see them. They're probably less important for a device that has only two drives, but for devices with a larger number of drives, I think you're going to want them. I believe that the early models of the Backblaze server rigs did not have them, while the newer models of their rig does. Yes, Backblaze publishes full video and design specs for the NAS devices that they build for themselves. It's almost as cool as their list of drive reliability that they post every quarter.
@americanmambi
@americanmambi Ай бұрын
Pretty cool ty so much
@mochpanjisuryawiguna9023
@mochpanjisuryawiguna9023 Жыл бұрын
Hello, For NAS pc, Did you connect with internet or not (wifi or lan)?
@revdelis
@revdelis 2 жыл бұрын
inspiring 👍
@GurupreetSingh07
@GurupreetSingh07 3 ай бұрын
Question.. Can we use sata SSDs for the bulk storage instead of mechanical hard drives for more reliability?
@GizmoTheGreen
@GizmoTheGreen 2 жыл бұрын
the mpcie for the wifi could maybe be used with an adapter, to pcie 1x, to fit a sata card for more drives. (or maybe gigabit ethernet?) and since the OS is probably read only into ram(?) you could probably just use a usb stick instead of sata to usb3
@ya650
@ya650 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! If I could suggest a video it would be about accessing this TrueNAS server remotely (While travelling).
@bengrahl8402
@bengrahl8402 2 жыл бұрын
Told you bro you're already blowing up
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