Building a Gear Shaper

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AndysMachines

AndysMachines

Жыл бұрын

I've tried to make internal gears by a number of methods in the past, but it's never quick, easy or reliable with normal hand or machine tools. The gear shaper is the perfect machine to do this, so I thought I'd have a go at building one.

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@robertmason8341
@robertmason8341 Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the best, if not the best diy machine builds I’ve seen on KZfaq yet. Your use of the donor mill casting was a great idea. It retains the quill functionality to get your reciprocating motion (shaper motion) and you get the dampening properties of cast iron that all proper commercial machine tools are built from. Most diy machine tool builds I’ve seen are of the “built up” variety, with housings fabricated from steel plate and bolted together or a combination of bolted construction and weldments. The cast iron construction being more rigid and thus more ideal for machining. Can’t wait for part 2!!
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
Thanks! The only thing I'm slightly concerned about is that the rack and pinion gears on the quill are not that big and probably not designed for this type of use. That's why I used the shear pin. I'm probably being over cautious though and it will outlast all the use I'll ever need from it.
@chrisarmstrong8198
@chrisarmstrong8198 Жыл бұрын
@@AndysMachines I agree. The rack and pinion gears will probably wear out first (after a LOT of gear cutting). Maybe a bell-crank arrangement at the top of the spindle driven from your new reciprocating arm could drive the spindle up and down directly?
@zbnmth
@zbnmth Жыл бұрын
@@chrisarmstrong8198 Good point. Not sure how the bellcrank would be fitted, but I was thinking of a piston. Could you elaborate?
@LordOfTamarac
@LordOfTamarac Жыл бұрын
Amazing man, most content creators would have stretched this into a 15 part series. I love the high-level overview that shows the most interesting parts of the process in your style of filming.
@OneManEngineering
@OneManEngineering Жыл бұрын
funny you said this. I could watch this all day. a 15 part series sounds fantastic :D. Andy always delivers!!! TIA, Greg
@garygenerous8982
@garygenerous8982 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing work. I love seeing you take crappy chinesium machine tools and turn them into other machine tools with amazing precision. Can’t wait for part 2!
@nick1bb1
@nick1bb1 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic! can't wait for part 2! I love that you are re-using/re-purposing old item to make a completely new machine- that in turn makes other parts for other machines- Brilliant!
@2OO_OK
@2OO_OK Жыл бұрын
Very Impressive! This 14 minute video must have taken 40 hours of real time to make.
@Dooban
@Dooban Жыл бұрын
Your channel is awesome and extremely underrated.
@rootvalue
@rootvalue Жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much. The effort, skill, and knowledge are immeasurable.
@RyJones
@RyJones Жыл бұрын
You’re back! ❤
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
I never actually went anywhere, but time flies!
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Жыл бұрын
Astonishing vision, design and execution. Well done on such a brilliant build. 👏👏👍😀
@anthonyalbanese1993
@anthonyalbanese1993 Жыл бұрын
That moment when you wanted to make internal gears for a while now - and have a spare milling head... Looks like another project for myself down the road. This is awesome! Thank you for sharing this!
@gutsngorrrr
@gutsngorrrr Жыл бұрын
Very impressive, taking the old mill and converting it like this, so clever. I'm looking forward to part 2
@brucewilliams6292
@brucewilliams6292 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive! You do such well thought out projects.
@thecorbies
@thecorbies Жыл бұрын
Fabulous project, fabulous work, and fabulous explanations. Thanks for sharing this with us. Regards Mark in the UK
@marcelosacem4940
@marcelosacem4940 Жыл бұрын
Simply the best. No other teacher, which he definitely is, can transmit so much information in such a precise and clear way. Learn from him and you will be a better machinist, his ideas for obtaining a very complicated process in a simple attainable way using available parts and new technology are outstanding. Congratulations 👏
@charlvanniekerk8009
@charlvanniekerk8009 Жыл бұрын
FINALLY !!!! I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEOME TO TREPAN SOMETHING FOR YEARS! Incredible build and some amazing techniques. This really makes for an incredibly precise piece of equipment and endless possibilities well done!
@JeffPedlow
@JeffPedlow Жыл бұрын
What a great start to the weekend! Always a delight to see a new video.
@Smallathe
@Smallathe Жыл бұрын
Now that is a LOT of work. WOW... a very impressive build!!!
@FCleff
@FCleff Жыл бұрын
BRAVO, Andy!
@smudgemo
@smudgemo Жыл бұрын
Really neat stuff! One of the few channels I don't FF through at some point. Probably a combination of the overall length and not wasting a lot of time showing completely obvious disassembly in fast-motion. The subject matter is most important, of course, and I find this inspirational as I'm mostly an amateur hack machinist.
@hpevans9041
@hpevans9041 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic work Andy, you certainly have a wide range of skills
@rickpalechuk4411
@rickpalechuk4411 Жыл бұрын
Cool build Andy, looking forward to the rest of the series. Cheers
@ledfootlou2540
@ledfootlou2540 Жыл бұрын
I’m loving all the gear making videos, keep up the good work!
@lumotroph
@lumotroph Жыл бұрын
Wow! So keen for the next one!
@wildgophers91
@wildgophers91 8 ай бұрын
hahaha, you got me with "The two, in no way fit together"
@rodneykiemele4721
@rodneykiemele4721 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are very impressive, Thank You very much for sharing them.
@georgedreisch2662
@georgedreisch2662 Жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant! Looking forward to the math involved to get it all to sync. Also hoping on more elaboration on inside gears, particularly, tooth profiles.
@MyLilMule
@MyLilMule Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. I love it.
@Thermo88
@Thermo88 Жыл бұрын
impressive work thank you for sharing your experience
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Жыл бұрын
You sir are a mechanical genius. I loved watching that!
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Жыл бұрын
Very interesting project. Thoroughly enjoyed.
@CRILIKk
@CRILIKk Жыл бұрын
Wow , best explanations on gears ever , thank you 🙏
@homemadetools
@homemadetools Жыл бұрын
Good work. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
@stefanguiton
@stefanguiton Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@kisoia
@kisoia Жыл бұрын
Excellent work and video, thanks!
@joell439
@joell439 Жыл бұрын
Always exciting, interesting, educational and entertaining content that I eagerly look forward to watching. Thank you 👍👍😎👍👍.
@wes7715
@wes7715 8 ай бұрын
Best part is when he said "gimmie dat, gimmie dat" while building his monster. KEEP SPEED! Ok ok oh god I could say so much. But the transition from CNC spot drill to HAND DRILL really got me. 😅Pure genius.
@f.hababorbitz
@f.hababorbitz Жыл бұрын
WOW! Your video production is always so well done. Your engineering and clever design ability (i.e. talent) is exemplary. This is not applicable to your implementation, but I turned a motor shaft down a few years back, on a new 3 phase motor I was fitting on my lathe. In my case a V-belt pulley. I didn't think about it at the time, but I left a sharp corner on the reduced shaft. Within 20 hours of running, the vibrations of the motor caused a crack to develop at that corner and the shaft with the pulley went rolling down the shop floor. Big lesson learned. Never thought that small vibration and radial load would do this on a 19mm shaft, at least not in my lifetime.
@IrenESorius
@IrenESorius Жыл бұрын
Impressive! Cheers and thanks for sharing Andy,, 🍻😎👍‍‍👍‍‍
@pawekowalski7469
@pawekowalski7469 Жыл бұрын
I am so impressed with your designs !! 👌👍👍It is a pity that I do not have such knowledge in the field of CNC. 🤥Greetings from Poland Jestem pod wrażeniem twoich projektów !! Szkoda, że nie mam takiej wiedzy z zakresu CNC.
@TheDistur
@TheDistur Жыл бұрын
That is so cool. Once you have enough tools you can make so many other tools!
@marianodiaz461
@marianodiaz461 Жыл бұрын
Great video! The only thing that I would change is to make the worm taper , but your system works good as well…keep up the good work!
@ianreynolds9693
@ianreynolds9693 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing!!
@LitchKB
@LitchKB Жыл бұрын
Spent most of a day researching how I was going to do this for the ring gear of a planetary setup last week... Then presto! Andy beat me to it. Kudos.
@howtorepairpendulumclocks
@howtorepairpendulumclocks Жыл бұрын
totally brilliant. Inspiring!
@thomasstover6272
@thomasstover6272 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andy! A new machine to obsess over! I happen to have an old XLO mill head….hmmm.
@eyuptony
@eyuptony Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, enjoyed watching. Tony
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. Very nice work
@stevensmart8868
@stevensmart8868 Жыл бұрын
Nice work. Thanks for sharing
@barryvj171
@barryvj171 Жыл бұрын
Legend !! Who would have ever thought about doing that !!
@alitn588
@alitn588 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea 👍👍
@Dellpodder
@Dellpodder Жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing; thanks for making them! Cheers from across the pond.
@stupid-handle
@stupid-handle Жыл бұрын
Well done Andy! From your last video I inferred the finish would be due to the rotary head not being in perfect sync with the spindle, as in something you could solve somewhat easily, but great build otherwise! I don't personally like much the fact that quill's rack and pinion are taking all that intermittent load, but (as originally intended) the mechanism seems able of handling moderate loads, so as long as you don't give it too much depth of cut I guess you should be fine. And if that fails at anytime you've got more than enough skills to find a suitable solution. All the best!
@irritantno9
@irritantno9 Жыл бұрын
This channel covers so many different topics I'm interested in, and I really have a limited interest in gears. Just became a patreon supporter.
@alliwantedisapepsi1492
@alliwantedisapepsi1492 Жыл бұрын
Part two? really. I hate suspense. Anyway, this just looks like another awesome build. Top notch build for a difficult challenge. Great jOB.
@gerhardgroenewald6560
@gerhardgroenewald6560 Жыл бұрын
o yes!Dont forget the relief on up strokes!Somebody with your calibre can easily program that in.Cant wait to see Andy...
@adityabhanuwanshe4381
@adityabhanuwanshe4381 Жыл бұрын
Amazing transformation and very good machining 👍 Just a little upgrade tip add another stepper motor to bed horizontal movement you will get rack shaping machine too 🤑🤑
@justRD1
@justRD1 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! It’s like my maker Channels know I’ve been tooling up to make gears!
@older-wiser-better
@older-wiser-better Жыл бұрын
Very cool upcycling
@HM-Projects
@HM-Projects Жыл бұрын
This is excellent, cheers.
@Be-positive-on-life
@Be-positive-on-life Жыл бұрын
Help me a lot. Thanx brother
@ollied1981
@ollied1981 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff :)
@azenginerd9498
@azenginerd9498 Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating build! No need for adjustment on the stroke length? Or does that add a level of complexity not warranted in this design?
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
I chose a stroke length to suit the type of gears I want to make, I probably won't need to change it, if I do the only way is to shorten or lengthen one of the lever arms.
@fenchelteefee
@fenchelteefee Жыл бұрын
Just pure awesomeness
@slypig24
@slypig24 Жыл бұрын
I liked the oscillating link. Could make the crank arm length with a slot, to allow for different offset, and different length of stroke.?
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
Yes, I did think about doing something like that and other people have mentioned this too. But for now at least it's unlikely I'll need to change the stroke for the gears I want to make.
@rabahchikh8918
@rabahchikh8918 Жыл бұрын
Good job c'est une idée géniale
@glennwright9747
@glennwright9747 Жыл бұрын
Awesome build. When I do projects they keep getting interrupted by 100 other tasks and months later my project may get completed😊
@improviseddiy
@improviseddiy Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Thinking outside to box here. 🤔
@JesseSchoch
@JesseSchoch Жыл бұрын
great job andy!!! I'd love to know how much force it takes to cut a chip with that setup. I did a small experiment on a 9x30 lathe and it didn't seem rigid enough. Also, why not just drive the cut with your Z motor? Would it stall or were you just worried about ware?
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's actually capable of applying a downward force on the cutter of around 6000N (~600Kg) in the middle of the stroke. This would possibly be enough to strip the quill gears but hopefully the shear pin would go first. I don't know how much force it actually takes to make a cut, but considerably less, even when cutting steel the motor doesn't appear to be under much load at all. Using the Z motor (Nema 34 stepper) would be much slower, have less force, and also there would be more backlash as when using the quill I lock the head to the column.
@TheDumry
@TheDumry Жыл бұрын
So much garbage on youtube that gets millions of views. Content like this is why I watch youtube, I'm rooting for you that your channel will blow up big, you deserve it.
@andli461
@andli461 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! But have to wait for part 2… 😬😉
@bulletproofpepper2
@bulletproofpepper2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@LordPhobos6502
@LordPhobos6502 Жыл бұрын
6:30 'They call me Dr Worm... I'm not a real doctor, but I am a real worm'
@kevinsellsit5584
@kevinsellsit5584 Жыл бұрын
Spectacular! That has money maker written all over it! ;)
@seimela
@seimela Жыл бұрын
The information I wasn't aware of is the blank also rotates with cutter
@federicoae7671
@federicoae7671 Жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual. Are you still working on the T-800? I would really like to see that finished.
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes I am. In fact I need this machine to make some of the T-800's gears.
@juliocesardemoraesbarros5585
@juliocesardemoraesbarros5585 Жыл бұрын
I have made a planetary gear set 8mm. Tick using a a laser cnc cutter and it's working perfecly
@aaronsilas7024
@aaronsilas7024 Жыл бұрын
Love the fact you are sinking your teeth back into the whole gear topic. I believe its somewhat of a black art for most machinists s its great to learn about it.
@gregwmanning
@gregwmanning Жыл бұрын
Bold project Andy. Did you meticulously plan and design everything before you started or figure it out as you progressed?
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
I usually make a broad plan to start, but it often evolves as I build it. Usually it's steered by the parts and materials I have available. You'll see in part 2 how the control system evolved.
@mrechbreger
@mrechbreger Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in power skiving, I'm doing quite some gear hobbing myself.
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@dalelathwell7219
@dalelathwell7219 Жыл бұрын
Well, that sure looks a very handy tool was you a machinist by trade ? I've made clock gears in the past and found them very challenging with manual dividing heads would love a stepper motor dividing head like yours 👍
@ImpactWench
@ImpactWench Жыл бұрын
Can't wait!
@meocats
@meocats Жыл бұрын
Good idea
@tradingisthinking
@tradingisthinking Ай бұрын
gear skiving is more interesting , keep going on that bro
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Ай бұрын
It is! The problem is it needs a specific cutter for each number of teeth, and the geometry is much more complicated. A shaping cutter (which looks very similar) will cut any number of teeth, like a hob.
@eveningecho5334
@eveningecho5334 Жыл бұрын
Backlash removal in the worm drive, are you minimising the clearance in the root of the teeth or offsetting the worm slightly? Just wondering if the backlash is removed in a reversible drive or if this only works in one direction of drive.
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
The teeth on the wormwheel are machined to have clearance in the root and the worm adjusted to be very close to have minimal backlash. Still, I only drive it in one direction.
@machineworld1873
@machineworld1873 Жыл бұрын
impressive it is my first time to see that 😍
@micro04thai27
@micro04thai27 Жыл бұрын
cool amazing skill
@user-gh3dd5or3q
@user-gh3dd5or3q Жыл бұрын
Технари друг друга всегда поймут. Шикарная работа!
@lawmate
@lawmate Жыл бұрын
Amazing work! Do you need to add extra lubrication for the quill and rack and pinion now they are constantly in motion? Looking forward to the next video. You'll be making a lot of gear trains when this is done!
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
Yes, I did make sure it was all well lubricated when I reassembled it. The quill is easy to lubricate in use, but the rack and pinion gears are not so easy to get to without pulling out the gear shaft.
@lawmate
@lawmate Жыл бұрын
@@AndysMachines ah yeah. Maybe a little oil dripper above the pinion?
@matter9
@matter9 Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal.
@Smartzenegger
@Smartzenegger Жыл бұрын
Very nice. See you in Part2D2. :)
@chimpera1
@chimpera1 Жыл бұрын
I love this
@deanharris7149
@deanharris7149 Жыл бұрын
Awesome.
@user-mg9mg1dy8n
@user-mg9mg1dy8n Жыл бұрын
Nice work 👏 💞💞🌺😘
@josecarlospoggian149
@josecarlospoggian149 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@gerhardgroenewald6560
@gerhardgroenewald6560 Жыл бұрын
Technically speaking you can do away with form invole cutters.Cnc grind a perfect involute 1 tooth cutter from proper hss and still shape with it while indexing for all teeth to be cut.Away with expensive disc type shaper cutters.Damn your content makes me so excited.Having shapers myself i always wanted to see a setup like yours.Im very interested on the span measurements accuracy after you finished.
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
Yes, that method would be similar to using a regular gear cutter on a milling machine and indexing the blank, whereas the pinion cutter is more like cutting a gear with a hob. The pinion cutter is more complicated to make, but has the advantage that it will cut any number of teeth. The one-tooth cutter might be better for larger module sizes, as only one tooth is being cut producing less force on the cutter compared to multiple teeth being cut at once.
@gerhardgroenewald6560
@gerhardgroenewald6560 Жыл бұрын
@@AndysMachines ja Yes!That idea you are moving to now is way more professional. It ticks a lot of boxes. One is practical setting up the gear for runout before starting. You only have to deal with one plane instead of milling which has three. Two, overall rigidity. Instead of cutting something on a abour you are cutting into the table. 3, by setting feed rate slower (more cuts per tooth) equal less force and better accuracy. 4, cutter runout becomes neglectable for generating with 1 tooth cutter. 5, you will always get close to perfect involute profile instead of form cutters that's involute is only correct for 1 count tooth for that specific range. That alone in itself is why one doesn't cut professional gears on milling machines. 6 form cutters involute profiles typically vary from standard generated gears so it's not a good idea to mesh milled gears with 99% of all gears found in a gearbox. 7. now you can start experimenting with complex internal generating profiles like internal square with almost no radius. You're making the gear cutters jealous now. Actually generating with a mill wow!!! Cant wait to see more
@gerhardgroenewald6560
@gerhardgroenewald6560 Жыл бұрын
I have made and generated with single point cutters if you are interested to see how good the results are? Its totally worth it for various reasons.
@CNCWerks
@CNCWerks Жыл бұрын
Awesome project! Curious what software or how you made those animations at 3:43?
@AndysMachines
@AndysMachines Жыл бұрын
Nothing complicated, but quite time consuming. I just exported each frame one at a time from CAD software (an old version of TurboCAD) I'm sure there are better ways to do it.
@glennmoreland6457
@glennmoreland6457 Жыл бұрын
You might want to redesign the upper crank for the linear motion with a slot so you can adjust the stroke... 😐🇬🇧
@JLmcct
@JLmcct Жыл бұрын
You are mad but genious !
@joansparky4439
@joansparky4439 Жыл бұрын
inspiring to say the least 👍
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