The geared trains are definitely the way to go. Watched another guy's channel where he had same route to the iron mine. He had 10+ cars and completely stopped on the steep grade. Once he started going again it acted like it was like it was on flat ground.

little tip on making straight track laying a little more efficient: if you have the cross pieces layed out, instead of deleting 2 and immediately replacing with normal rail, just go ahead and delete 2, leave 2, delete the next 2 [...] and then on your way back just fill in the missing track, will save you a bunch of clicks and time

I hope when they develop the game more and get to a point where you enter the industrial age with bigger train cars and diesel engines that you get access to a Signal Tower structure. When placing it, any switches within its radius can be automatically switched. By that I mean while you're driving a little mini gui pops up like a map and lets you flip switches remotely. That way you can drive the trains freely without having to get out and manually flip each one.

Hopefully a future update to the game will cause the rails to warp over time to cure kAN of his perfectionism.

I bought the game a week ago, took me like 12hrs over the week to get the first track laid, was super frustrating at times, but the satisfaction when you finish, and it all works is sooo worth the effort.

Love this series kAN, still not kept up in my own world. It's well worth the effort and that I love.

Thankful today for a new video! Tip:- The Mogul pulling 2 hoppers and 12 lumber/beam to the iron mine is a great in/out balance and it’s fast and (on my track that is max 3% except a little bit midway that’s 5%) an easy 20% (then 40% for the short bit) throttle run. 5 or so minutes up and down (each way). Takes longer to unload and load.

I'm so glad I get to experience this game vicariously through you, just thinking about building a shunt yard for an hour makes me yawn uncontrollably

The Heisler also has massive wheelslip. Just slowly accelerate with the reg in order to actually go forwards.

YEEEES!!! I’ve been waiting so impatiently for another episode, just wish it was longer

I've been using the tender engines for my routes, the D&R has more than enough power to pull 20 loaded cars up to the mine on the same track route you have, and it's much faster. They also fixed the brakes on it, so it's a top tear engine now. Geared locos are still beasts, but I much prefer the look of a tender engine.

A really interesting challenge for you and anyone else becoming addicted to this game who intend to run a separate line to the smelter. The logic of it is to have a line that runs directly to the smelter from the logging camp without jamming up the lumber yard. Look carefully on the map and you'll see a gorge, running west to east in the top left corner of the map. There is a pass leading from the area between the lumber yard and the logging camp into that gorge at it's west end. By following the hills to the north of the logging camp you can make it up to the pass with a 2.5% grade the entire way. From the pass down to the smelter a 3.50% grade will require going around a bit to the east of the smelter after you clear the gorge, to get down to the smelter's level. Since this is a one way haul you are pulling empties back up the gorge so you could get away with a steeper grade maybe 4 to 6% on the smelter side making it somewhat shorter. It's really satisfying to watch the train run along the side of the gorge walls. At the lumber camp, come down off the hills to the north-west and loop around to come into the cord wood platform from behind. Make a connection to the lumber yard line just so you can bring engine and cars from the freight yard. With a firewood depot and water tower at the lumber yard the train on this line never has to return to the freight yard.

I could watch this for hours. Please post train videos more often. Every time I watch I can’t wait for the next video.

Super helpful information, foundation will link to tracks and will be perfectly centered. Creating foundations for a shunt yard like this is super easy, start with a reference foundation so you can get the right height then you can stretch a single long foundation between the two parallel switches and boom instant straight and centered foundation. I've been using this trick to make all of my foundations perfect, I will lay a rough foundation for a curve for instance, then place all the tracks with the alt key then go back and make perfect foundation that matches the curve exactly. edit: he mentioned linking brings up the foundation to the track level, using constant grade foundation does not do this

So when I did my shunt yard, it looked like one train car can fit on two cross tracks. That makes it easy to figure out how many cars you can fit in the lane. Another option for more efficient replacement of the lane is to just drag the track across the whole lane, two sections at a time, then come back and delete the cross pieces by aiming at the part that's sticking out. You don't need to delete the track first (unless they fixed that in a patch I missed).

Z-fighting I think is what you're looking at, an issue of multiple textures on the same plane, all being rendered in turn every frame (hence the flickering)

Yeah, I like Railroads Online. It's always fun watching kAN making trains fun. I like the finished product, but I'm also glad I don't have to do all the work to enjoy a clean track.

It looks so good now! I wish you could have props like littles cabins, tents or random piles of spare rails lying around

Ah, nothing is more relaxing than watching kANs' Railroads Online at night with a cup of tea.

What I did with my rails was a main rail from freight depot to sawmill (and extend that to the mines) And wood to sawmill is a "sidetrack" from the main one. Getting rid of the split from depot to sawmill and logging camp was the best decision I made

The glitchy texture thing is called Z-fighting, as it comes from 2 textures overlapping on the z-plane relative to each other & fighting with each other.

The Heisler is the one you want to use for your line to the Iron Ore Mine. It works perfect even with 12 carts (including droppers) on 7% grade. Heisler is the power, but slow.

I literally just watched the last 3 vids of the new iron line and now i get blessed with a new episode

So THAT's how you line up the switches! I so wish you can rotate the switches when building them so you can swap between the three connections as the "snapping" point. I free handed my shunt yard at the other end, which means my lines aren't perfectly parallel. Your perfectionism is making me redo stuff lol. My shunt yard is also on the bare ground, which doesn't look as good.

You could hear the panic when he thought he demolished the wrong track at 6:18! Haha!!

Absolutely loving this series kAN! Its not often I turn on notifications for a channel, but I’m always waiting for these eps!

Fun fact the 'flashing texture' effect is called Z-fighting and occurs when 2 textures are within the same area, the one the gpu renders last will show causing the flashing.

If you have the shunt lanes exit and enter from the same direction, (so the hole yard is crabbing over to the left or right.) Then all the lanes would be the same length. And if ya want to populate the server, put 1 or 2 bypass lanes that give enough space for the shunting train to maneuver in & out of the shunt lanes. Then the shunting yard can be worked and be completely isolated from the mainlines... Good job, keep up the good work! 😉☺️

Can’t wait to see you and some friends all running multiple trains to different destinations at the same time. It should be cool. Love the vids

Kans monologue while building feels like a bob Ross moment.

When I do straight tracks I have a faster way to do it (even for long sections) I start with a cross, so the track is straight. I make a straight section of track from that, in alt mode, on the ground (make sure it is level) connect a switch, and then delete the piece of track between the switch and the cross. You now can start groundwork, connect it to the front of the switch, connect it to the end and press alt. This groundwork will be perfectly aligned with the track you now can build in alt-mode too The reason I use a switch for the groundwork is the lever sticks out so you can easily delete it after

Can't get enough of this series, great Work !!

All the amazing content is almost too much for me to keep up with!

The technical term for those flashing textures is Z fighting. 2 textures occupying the same Z coordinates will fight to be the top layer texture resulting in the flashing. It's an issue in many games.

there should really be fixed curved pieces (you know, like in a toy train set), and fixed (semi-fixed, different lengths) straight pieces, too... like, nothing against the "freeform" thing, but having modular "lego" pieces as an alternative option would be nice (you already have the switch and crossroad fixed pieces, why not straight and curved ones, eh?)... Or like piece editor, where you set the curve angle and length, and you could save the piece in your "piece library" and then use it anytime you want... also: world/global grid (for pieces to snap to) would be nice, too. I know I'm not the developer, so I can't really be telling them how to make their game >.>

This might be one of my favourite series.

Great work kan keep it up I think that you should buy a geared train so you can go up the iron mine route and be more efficient.

Ah yes I too need to expand my shunt yard Also wouldn't it be great if you could just spam crossings for this sort of stuff But you don't need to place a ton of them just place 1 or 2 then connect a rail from 1 end to the other than just hit alt and you have a perfectly straight track Also a crossing on an angle would be nice for those situations when you need one

Well at least you have the storage you need for now at the main yard congrats!

6:17 you can hear the "oh God please no" in his voice when the rail he wanted to keep disappeared when he deleted the cross piece

I love this series and you channel so keep it up.

Love this series

i love the music in the game. amazing cover of Amazing Grace

You could also run a switch line from the shorter shunt lanes on the left back to the longer shunt lines on the right, remembering that there is no requirement to turn carts around. This would allow you to pull carts out from the short lanes without going around the entire loop, should the entrance to the short shunt lanes be blocked.

KAN thnx for that switch thingy. So here is a thing there is a big white rock in the middle of the sand groundwork follow that. Fun fact a wagon is 2 crosses long. You gone love the Heisler, so far i got up to 39 wagons (8 hoppers, 10 cordwood, 21 flatcars tier 2) still going strong on 3% grade

I love your railroads online videos

With the small height changes, it actually looks better slightly offset as IRL ballast - or foundation - in perfect at that height.

I would love to eventually have a railroad setup to run multiple trains crews. Maybe use a discord server to control traffic on the lines.

it would be cool if could have blueprints of specific tracks that you could place in an instant, being able to change the grade of it ofc. It would mean you could make massive sections of perfectly straight track without needing to place crossovers every time

one tip for me its really difficult to run a 12 car train alone because lining up with the cranes is hard. but what I did was when you have a really short track it only has one piece of wood under the rail. so I use that as a sighn to know where to stop.

Hey Kan! Fun fact: that weird texture glitch is prolly called "Z-fighting", & it happens when two textures are trying to render in the same space at the same time.

Oh that "flashing" you see in the foundation, I've learned from playing lots of Minecraft, is called z-fighting. Basically, since the 2 textures are so close to the same position, the game can't determine which texture to draw over the other, so you see the textures randomly flashing as a result.

Yay another railroads video!

While this style of shunt yard is great, extremely functional, to get more room, simply dead end once side even. All the cars will need to be backed in and pulled out the same way, its very realistic and allows tons of space for cars.

You can link the groundwork to the track after you place the first part, it only matches the track height on the initial spline node not the second onwards.

I use the the other side of the freight depot because it has a longer hitbox. You can unload about 2 extra cars, reliably too.

Once you get to the oil use tier 3 flatcars you get $1060 per car also you should keep the switch and connect it to the freight depot for when you add the next line

Cool looking game, I think I’ll buy it when I can find someone to play with.

Oh, and later on for the Coal Mine, 13 cars is the ideal length, for 30 rails (10 per car), and 30 beams (3 per car). You can't unload too fast though, as the Beams input has a max stock of 20, so you have to wait for 10 coal to produce while unloading.

I love this sires. I want to see big gains. Like 5 or six people play with what you already have. Make some money and see how things would work when more than one train is going. I think it would be cool to see and maybe you can dodge some congestion issues for the future.

The choocher of sound has been summoned for this video. Lol

Damn i read 'stunt yard' and got excited got dissapointed so i suggest u gonna do a stunt yard too :D

Happy Thanksgiving a Railroads Online special.

I have said it once, and I will say it again.. We need you to do a Satisfactory playthrough!

You can place tracks over the crosses, and they will be within itself, then click on the sides of the crosses to delete it, so you can lay and they delete without alternating

I’m playing train sim world SD70ACe add on while watching this. Also amazing videos keep ‘em up.

this was a weirdly satisfying video to watch

Hey kan when you are laying parallel tracks if you start at the switch and lay down two cross overs then, delete the first one then, use standard rail and connect the switch and crossover press left all then you can lay track through the second crossover perfectly straight and a lot faster

The pulsing texture thing is a consequence of how 3D rendering works, it’s present in a lot of games and it’s a problem about what to render first since they are at the same location. The only good fix is to force the 2 overlapping polygons to have slightly different positions in 3d space so they would no longer overlap

the overlapped texture flickering is called Z-fighting. They are on the same plane and so the textures fight over which one should be displayed.

The other side of the freight house has a longer unloading dock that means you can unload more cars unless you are doing the nonstop unload method.

Shortest lane for loco or just, in need to get pass lane. :D And i have almost same route to iron mine, and it is all the way up 3 decrees uphill. Exept little waiting rail switch area in flat zone. Just rounded to cliffside before horrible up up hill.

Here is a useful tip for when you get the geared locomotives you can't 100% reg them immediately you WILL wheel slip like no tomorrow so I usually just start at like 10%-15% reg then increase it as needed and that's what I do for the climax, the Heistler as of now can't go over 80% reg it likes to wheel slip but you can get it to 100% reg it just a pain but both of those engines are power houses just not speed demons and they can go up steep grades no problem for your current track to iron mine one of them will work great (most I have gone up so far is 5% grade with a 10 car consist and only used about 20-30% reg)

So instead of completing the bow at the end of the shunt yard, what if you replaced the switch at the end. Add a short straight to each side, then added switches off a line parallel to the freight depot. You could then use either side of the depot, AND you would get some more options for traffic. Just a thought.

Cool video

It seems like it would be useful to have a repeat button, so you can press 1 button to start placing the same piece as you did before, without having to go through the menus

Merry thanksmas

love your vids

kAN how about livestreaming you and dapper running trains and just chill talk? 😁 You always have some interesting stories. Also the Devs should add a dedicated build mode with a hud bar for items, so you don't have to go in and out of the build menu. 🤔

This game has mountains of potential but right now the work-arounds for what should be basic easy construction seem elaborate and time-consuming to an extreme to which I don't want to play it yet

Wanted to give a heads up kan but some of the bigger engines might have a wheel slip bug which makes your whole train move backwards even on flat ground when you try to start moving. Also The iron ore hoppers are apparently A LOT heavier than they are suppose too. I know the Heisler have it really bad because it’s super powerful but ain’t sure about the other one you were looking at. To get it moving if it dose happen, all you have to do is take it super slow at first and gain some speed for going 100% on the regulator. Saying if you do get the bug.

That texture "fighting" is called "Z buffer fighting" and it the fault of DirectX (and OpenGL). It's been around since the earliest days of DirectX and happens when 2 texture planes are in the same location - DirectX can't make up it's mind which texture gets priority so it flips back and fort between the two as you move the view around. The developers, even Unreal and Unity have no control over it. Only Microsoft can fix it and they haven't done anything about it in 25 years!

the weird flashing with the textures has a name, it's called Z fighting, 2 textures trying to occupy the same space

I love kan I wish he keep the content for railroad online

You should get the class 70, it is very powerful and they fixed the breaks.

what i think would cool for this game is terraforming so you can make tunnels and flatten hills.

What would be nice to see is a update to the switches since many ones irl if a train coming to one ans it's not locked in place the train wheels will force it to open to the direction of the train

That texture flashing is call z-fighting, and is both textures trying to be visible. It happens in a lot of games, people just don't notice it.

That would be so cool if they added the UP 4014 Big Boy

Here I was wondering if the multiple day delay between videos was because kAN had another project that took him 2+ IRL days (plus editing time). Was excited to see another RRO video, but it's just a shunting video...

kAN you definitely should link the groundwork to the track, it won’t change the height and it’ll follow the curves a lot better. The height is determined by the height of your cursor when you first place it, after that it’ll remain at whatever height that is, even when linking to track. Also, when doing the straight track with the 90° you should just continuously link the track to every two 90’s in one go, then you can go through and delete all the 90°s all at once.

I use the heisler, get ready for slow and lots of wheel slip power

I want this game bc of you but I don't have the patience or even the freetime to even be able to play it often

I have a D&RG class 70 locomotive and it does have brakes. On my way to the iron ore mine I have a 10% grade and it can go up it with 9 plank cars easily. I just wanted you to know.

The texture glitches are called Z-fighting and it is exactly that, a texture occupying the same space so the graphics engine does not know which to display.

You should definitely play Satisfactory again, it’s on steam now and has very regular updates, and most importantly, Update 5 has just come out! Huge amount of new things and there’s a large server feature now!

you could do 10 iron hoppers to get iron mine empty in 3 runs if u ever did fill it to max

the next engine you should get is the climax. I have one and she is great on hills.

Can you place a fuel depot at the logging camp? That should allow you to farm money easier, with a much shorter trip. Or maybe no trip at all if you place it opposite the loading platform, just load the cars on one side and unload them on the other?

Just an observation but the route to the oil field and refinery seems pretty flat. It might make a good running field for the Class 70, Cooke Mogul, and perhaps the (cough) Eureka. Meanwhile, if you get a Geared locomotive, I myself have the Heisler which has a max water capacity of 6,000 and seems pretty stable (you can go up to 65% reg before wheel slip, 75% with sander on based on Sevex2020's experiments and can handle a 10-degree incline), it would be good for the mountainous terrain like the iron mine, smelter, and coal mine.