So sad that a majority of this country is decades behind other parts of the world when it comes to public transportation, both over long and short distances. I spent nearly a month in Germany and didn't need to rent a car or any other mode of personal transportation.

Absolutely incredible! And the drop-point being Disney Springs means there's no need for entry-cost. You can just get your shop-on if that's all you're interested in doing. Good move I say, However. The replacement of Disney-Express would still need a way to get guests to their "check-in' destinations, and their luggage. I hope that Disney intends to do internally.

@@Batsquatch98 Blame Amtrak. They have lobbyists that have IMMENSE power in Washington and have managed to block private rail on every single front. They've been a huge block towards us having a nationwide bullet train, claiming their crappy Acela is a "high speed rail." Their ridiculous explanation? Their lawyers said "The nation's infrastructure is not suitable for "ULTRA" high speed rail. WTF is that?! They refused to even explain at a hearing but because of so much political corruption, nobody raised any questions and they were allowed to keep all their networks while private bullet train companies were denied entry into the market! This is why I despise Amtrak and will NEVER use them. They are so awful that one of their Acela routes saved barely 30 minutes over taking a plane the same way!

It’s not incredible. Well at least to any country that isn’t America and already has a basic public transportation system.

@@bigchungus4331 You mean a country that's about the size of A state?

I wish I could DING THIS BELL a thousand times! I GASPED OUT LOUD when I heard this tidbit of information! Even though, it is NOT surprising to hear when you have lived in America for 50 years!

As soon as he mentioned the toll roads I knew they were going to be paid for that lost revenue. What a world we live in.

These new toll roads are many times through a Private/Public partnership. Part of those deals is that when the roads finally open, the Private portion of that partnership would get a percentage of toll revenue over a certain amount of years as a return on that investment. Additionally, there are also bonds issued and loans taken out by government entities to finance these projects. Future toll revenue plays a large role in determining the financing of such projects so that is most likely the concern here about potential toll road revenue loss. The government needs to pay back these investors and loans so if there is a loss of toll revenue then it would mean that they need to offset those losses by other means. Which could mean the tax base footing that bill.

@@Shundi879 Yup, lets try and get less cars off the road because it's better for the environment... "But you better not touch our income revenue!" I see the same thing in San Francisco all the time, this war the local transit authority has against automobiles, not wanting them anywhere... but the #1 source of revenue for the city comes from automobiles often in the form of parking, and more to the point parking enforcement (tickets).

Exactly! This is a privately owned company and the state of Florida is holding them hostage to make sure they get their cut of the profits (because that's easier than the state building a railroad). Does the state of Florida also hold all the bus lines hostage that run back and forward to the cruise docks (I wouldn't be surprised since they replace hundreds of cars per week) or do they just charge buses a hell of a lot more money for the tolls? (basically the same thing) The idea of the toll road is that those that USE IT pay for it. I understand that the state of Florida has to pay back investors for building those toll roads, but they shouldn't be allowed to strong arm a company that is building a better system to make it easier for some to travel around the state. Over time the state of Florida will derive more income from the normal operation of the rail system than their toll blackmailing will provide and will give them a better relationship with a company that can provide that income with the possibility of expanding to north Florida in the future. (something they're not likely to do if the state tries to grab as much of the rail profits as they can)

There are ways to travel around the city without using tolls, you just have to plan ahead and put maybe an extra 10 minutes into your drive depending on where you're going. It's not that bad.

Here in Pennsylvania it’s become cheaper to take the train from Pittsburgh to Harrisburg/Philadelphia than it is to take the Turnpike (which is now one of the most expensive toll roads in the world). I can’t imagine requiring Amtrak to reimburse the Turnpike Commission for lost toll revenue.

It’s insane. It’s like opening a competing shop and then being forced to pay the incumbent because they were there first.

Not toll companies. CFX, the thruway authority, is the owner of the land that Brightline is building their tracks on. They are being charged for that land use.

@@afcgeo882, don't waste your time, people just want to listen to the clickbait and not think for themselves on this issue.

haha free market go brrrrrrr

Stock footage but still, well-produced.

@@buffalobuck15 no... some of it is, but a large part of it was shot by Brayden.

Just came across his channel... impressed

Not necessarily, if you get your own rental car you can then get a cheaper hotel room off Disney property.

Totally Agree🇹🇹❤️

although that hugeness is what makes rail hard, since you need to build a lot more track to connect the same amount of people, thus making less money, plus the trains need to be equipped to be more comfortable for longer haul travel. that being said, I think we're ready

Second that. Awesome stuff. Nino, we just posted a video breaking down Disneyland vs Disney World-- would love for you (or any Disney Parks fan) to watch it when you have the time. Check our channel please and thank you!

100% agree!

Was thinking the same😃, love it!

Inaccurate and very selective information, unfortunately.

@@afcgeo882 What was the info then, talk about selective!

@@tommytube268 So first off, the whole Virgin fiasco. Second, that the line is the most fatal in the US. Third, that they’re failing financially. Fourth, that the money they pay to the throughway authority is simply for the land they’re using and not for a toll offset. Finally, that the majority of the railroad’s construction has been because of state and county infrastructure investments. Those major points would be good to mention, as well as prices on the existing line being much higher than advertised.

@@afcgeo882 Lets take a look into that then. Virgin Group invests in so many different thing that they probably decided it wasnt valuable for them anymore focusing on Galactic instead. Secondly since Brightline is new they are going to be more "dangerous" than companies who have operated for decades without many accidents. Third, many companies struggle financially in the first few years of business, thats just how it is. Some do better than others and some take a while to make money like Uber and Lyft. You are correct with you fourth point though.

@@barrysolomon8993 The reason why for the compensation is because Brightline is leasing some land from the toll companies to build their new ROW.

@@barrysolomon8993 They primarily are concerned woth losing toll money from the turnpike and other toll roads which are not many.

I agree with you, it is a gift to have it here.

He points out their flaws too often for that 😂

I stayed off site at a hotel that had a courtesy bus to Disney World's transportation center where you board the appropriate monorail to your ultimate destination (Epcot, Magic Kingdom, etc.). I drove to the hotel as I didn't want to go off to other attractions. Do research before you finalize vacation plans and stick with the plan. Don't forget to tip your courtesy drivers! Have a relaxing vacation and enjoy the magic (and make some happen if you have the chance). If you elect to stay off site, look for places that have shuttle service between the airport and hotel. Account for additional travel time to WDW from your hotel and make sure their shuttle schedule meets your needs, again, before you book. Vacation planning and doing it are stressful enough, but making the effort to not 'wing it' can go a long way to ensuring a successful, memorable vacation experience.

Totally! If you didn’t have to worry about bags it would be a great stop for a bite to eat before hotel check in, but families who have been flying all day will definitely not enjoy lugging bags around springs to find their bus. I can just picture all the cranky families now 😬 I think most will end up doing a car (either rental or Lyft, etc).

You're in luck, Brightline already offers check baggage service. Part of the negotiations going on right now is how to interline them from train to hotels.

Husband and I were talking about this this eve. WE live in West Palm Beach, however when you add all the plus plus plus's that will be involved, its seems so much more convieint to drive (3hr) to the resort of choice. We exclusivly stay at Boradwalk Inn, less hassel, yes its espensive, but, we;ve done it all and it seems to work best. I hope this works for many but we are in our seventies, and buggie lugging luggage to and fro JUST to get to your resort, and THEN do it all over again when leaving.. Have to see how this works...

Bright line sounds like a bright idea for their profit margins. What about us whom don't drive it's an awful idea

beyond stupid - i cant even believe they are considering this - i wouldnt take the brightline if given the option of the Disney Magical Express. Why isnt Tesla making a fleet of electric busses for Disney yet? Or is that already happening? A company most likely will start up to transport guests and deal with luggage - maybe Mears rebrands Disney Express but now you can expect a $100 per person charge to and from the airport on each Disney vacation - that's highway robbery.

Even better you just took your luggage at the airport before leaving tjen tada in your room .

And just think, when its time to go home, YOU get to do all of this AGAIN!!!!!! I think at first i might be a THING, but in reality, from our home in WPB, its 3 hrs to Disney, pull to our hotel, give valet key, and we go inside check in and dead done deal!!!! We are in our 70's and this seems much better than so many transfers! Buggy lugging luggage ect. Im a little sceptable...

That is what you do when you travel lol.

Us too!! The brightline has been paused for covid but it goes right by our house. So excited

@@flfamily1206 it stoped from West Palm to Miami?

@@strongtowerman9661 Currently has stopped service because of the pandemic in order to spend more of their money on the new extension. Service will pick up towards the end of this year.

It’s great, but the cost of bringing a family will be so much that most will continue to drive I bet!

@@garygobin9951 yes! It's very pricy!

What about Mickey Vans?

In all honesty Walt Loved trains so much and wanted Disney World to be something so massive that by now there would have been a monorail that traveled from the airport to the park, and trains to receive any one who lived in the state.

There was, very briefly, an operational air field at WDW. For a small extra fare, guests flew a short hop from MCO to Disney. If Walt had lived to see WDW open, I'm quite sure the field would have expanded to become a full fledged airport, with direct flights. No need for Magical Express when the customers are flying right into the magic. After all, MCO only became a major hub because of Disney, Orlando the city only became a (somewhat) large city for the same reason. Walt wanted complete control of his environment, but the men who came after him just didn't think on that scale.

And Roy would be pulling his hair out trying to find a way to pay for it.

If Walt were alive this line would have existed 25 years ago, and they’d just be updating the lines to bullet trains.

Walt would be about 120 years old if he was still alive. Highly unlikely

Greed and profit over guest experience is the new Disney model

disney executives have lost contact with reality.

There will still be a bus operated by Mears from Orlando airport to your disney resort

@@christinazowadney8188 sadly, it won't be complimentary or look as magical. The theme was part of the experience. Unless Mears plans to keep mickey and the gang on its buses? 🤔

More like reducing costs.

​@@afcgeo882 It's the same thing really. They want more money directed at the bottom line. They can either increase rates or cut service. Sometimes they can cut places like landscaping or other staff that might be missed, such as scrubbing the entry pad on the buses each night so they look brand new the next morning- not kidding, lol, that was an example of a cut to increase money to the bottom line that they were hoping no one would notice. As far as I know no one did. In other cases it's something like this, drop the free transport from the airport. Every room at a Disney owned resort is now making whatever the amount the service cost more per room used. While the guest is paying the same amount for the room PLUS whatever it now costs them from the airport, should they fly of course. If they drive themselves then that cost was already added to the resorts a few years ago when there was a charge added for parking your car at your resort.

I think that’s what they are trying to do. There are new stations being built in Boca Raton, Oakland Park, and I think they are considering one in Port St. Lucie.

It is continuing under a different name and a separate fee.

What magical express?

@@rachaelgoldstein8091 Yes!

It was such a convenience and stress-reducer!

Bruh there’s no magical express you’re supposed to ride the monorail if your hotel doesn’t have a monorail you’re not really at Disney

I think it should be first extended from its downtown Tampa station to also the city’s airport and stadium. If you used existing bridges, you’d have to to route through Clearwater to get to St. Petersburg from Tampa. That’s kinda an inconvenient and roundabout way of connecting the two, if you ask me.

I agree it's way to save money

And Disney has more than enough money to keep the buses going until the project is complete.

That’s what I was thinking

Yeah I was thinking that too! Also taking your luggage on a train isn't fun either :/

Excellent point! This will be a nightmare.

Guess you are going to have to start traveling spirit style

Brightline offers checked baggage.

Well, than I hope they build a railroad to universal instead. ;)

I remember that back in 02. I spoke with one of the guys from the light rail panel. He was pissed. Orlando needs light rail badly.

If they would just have taken the $20 or $30 per person it cost for the ME and the few dollars it cost them for Magic bands that they no longer give for free and just raise the price of a vacation package by that much no one probably would have noticed.

Also Brightline: So anyway, I just started chugging.

Haha. Real life tho’. That was me when I heard the news as well. How will I get my family of 6 to Disney??

That’s discrimination

No it's my opinion

It is possible the leg between MCO and WDW might allow separate schedules from the Miami point. That's why rail service has branches.

Actually, they currently aren’t running any services due to the pandemic. But it’s typically 2 trains per hour. 1 every 30 minutes in both directions. Also Brightline has ordered more rolling stock so that they can increase the length of the trains to 7 cars instead of 5. That being said, Brightline is certainly prepared for the extra volume of people.