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Building a Wing Rib

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JNE Aircraft

JNE Aircraft

3 жыл бұрын

John demonstrates how to build a wooden wing rib.
His wing-rib building technique has evolved after building multiple sets of wings over the years. He has figured out which steps can be eliminated in order to save time and energy!
This particular wing rib is for the 1926 Ryan M-2 he is currently restoring.
More about the M-2 will be shown in another video in the next few days.
... and yes, he DID misalign the buttons when he grabbed his fleece jacket and headed out into the rain to get to the shop that morning! LOL

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@user-hj9io8nr9w
@user-hj9io8nr9w Жыл бұрын
Hands of master! Sank you fo the video! We need this experience.
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@hillbilly4christ638
@hillbilly4christ638 2 жыл бұрын
This was a joy to watch. Much respect for the builder. Now, try to get some of these young kids to do this!
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it seems the kids aren't interested until they grow up a bit! Then, when they decide they want to do this kind of thing, the folks who could have taught them have passed on. That's where these kinds of videos will come in helpful to some degree.
@poorlycookedchile
@poorlycookedchile 2 жыл бұрын
Got into aviation at 12, did EAA for a few years at age 15, the smell of the hangar, tools, and sweat and the sound of the airport ATC coming from a radio on a desk while building planes got me into wanting to build planes. I’m 17 now and I wish to continue that passion by building my own plane one day. Thank you for uploading this video and hope I can find someone like him to be an apprentice to. Very Respectfully, Joshua M
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft Жыл бұрын
@@poorlycookedchile I'm sorry, I missed your reply when you posted it! Thank you for sharing your enthusiasm and we hope you never lose that passion! It takes a lot to build your own plane, but if you find a knowledgable mentor to guide you, you will have a priceless asset! Best of luck to you and don't let ANYONE convince you that you "can't" get it done! The personal message which I wrote on the fuel tank of the Spirit of St. Louis by JNE as a tribute to my husband says, " With Determination, Tenacity and Perseverance, Dreams Take Flight". That is true for anyone who holds fast to their dream. We're "rooting" for you! ~ Heather
@poorlycookedchile
@poorlycookedchile Жыл бұрын
@@JNEAircraft No worries ma'am, thank you for replying! I plan on going to a trade school to get my A&P Certificate someday soon and gain skills to be able to do this, thank you for the motivation!
@pcka12
@pcka12 10 ай бұрын
The process is remarkably similar to building balsawood model planes, except you tend to build a framework over plans covered in greaseproof paper or cling film!
@geoffreydowen5793
@geoffreydowen5793 3 күн бұрын
the mAGNETIC ONE IS AN UPHOLSTERER'S tack hammer, my dad had one here in the uk as he made the seats for Rolls Royce good luck
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share that bit of additional information on the tack hammer! It may help others be able to locate one for their own use.
@VicenteSilvestreMattos
@VicenteSilvestreMattos 3 жыл бұрын
Mestre na arte da construção! Lindo trabalho.
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
Muchas Gracias!
@Emil7688
@Emil7688 5 ай бұрын
How long is the nails and where can I bye them?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 5 ай бұрын
The nails are 1/4 - 3/8" long and they are brass coated, glue nails. Unfortunately, we have not been able to find these specific nails anymore. Those that John used in the video were from a stock we purchased more than 20-years ago.
@hailstorm5383
@hailstorm5383 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! :)
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, Miss Hailstorm! The question is: Did you learn anything you didn't know before? LOL
@hailstorm5383
@hailstorm5383 3 жыл бұрын
Good question i learned alot of this stuff but i forget to much 🤣
@joey-cn6mt
@joey-cn6mt 7 ай бұрын
You could many grind the vonge tack gamer down to just right
@dougkehoe3758
@dougkehoe3758 3 жыл бұрын
I love Japanese saws...
@shakey2634
@shakey2634 3 ай бұрын
Where does one find a jig for a 1926 Ryan?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 ай бұрын
It's the exact same rib that was used on the Spirit of St. Louis. That jig was donated to the San Diego Air & Space Museum and they used to have volunteers making ribs to sell as a fund raiser for the museum. We purchased ribs from them when we built the Spirit of St. Louis by JNE replica. John had to make a few extra ribs, so he used one of the ribs produced by the volunteers to make the jig he used in this demonstration. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video!
@shakey2634
@shakey2634 3 ай бұрын
@@JNEAircraft Thanks for the info!
@briana3467
@briana3467 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking he's done at least one or two of these before.
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft Жыл бұрын
You think? LOL!
@brianskeens647
@brianskeens647 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this man work is like watching Picasso paint!
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You for such a kind compliment!
@stolaircraftsuyanto9728
@stolaircraftsuyanto9728 2 жыл бұрын
very impressed video..thank you for sharing.what kind of wood is it uncle
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The wood for the strips are spruce and the wood for the gussets are mahogany.
@stolaircraftsuyanto9728
@stolaircraftsuyanto9728 2 жыл бұрын
@@JNEAircraft Thank you uncle, success always. greetings from Indonesia
@seamuscashin2606
@seamuscashin2606 Жыл бұрын
at last i have seen a real aircraft woodworker no jigs for every part fit and cut i hope all you amateur builders are watching this.
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@poorlycookedchile
@poorlycookedchile Жыл бұрын
Hello, i’m curious about something, how/where did he learn such an amazing skill/craft? EAA taught me some skills but not to this extreme. Very Respectfully, Joshua
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 ай бұрын
One can only be "taught" the basics of how a thing is done. Then you have to just keep at it until you develop your OWN technique that works best for you to get the job done. John has been at this for a very long time! Keep at it and you'll develop YOUR technique as well. Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and for commenting with such encouragement!
@dougkehoe3758
@dougkehoe3758 2 жыл бұрын
Cut it with a paper cutter?...the gussetts...?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is one way of cutting the gusset material quickly and it's easier on the hands than using scissors or shears!
@1967250s
@1967250s 3 жыл бұрын
Several questions: at 6:40 the front gusset of the rear spar is pointed: why not cut the gussets with more accurate angles on the ends? It would only take a couple seconds. Why no glue for the gusset ends? What type glue is used? What type woods are used for the rib and gussets? Doesn't hammering the gusset in put stress on the rib top and bottom? Why not sand them to hand tight? Noticed one gusset chipped at the bottom: does this not compromise the strength, especially since they are not glued?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
These ribs are built per the original. Why they shaped the gussets the way they did? Who knows! As with anything, over time we understand that there may be better, more efficient ways of doing things, but if you want to stick with the authenticity of how something was built "back in the day", you do it they way they did! That is why there are so many "rough edges" on the Spirit of St. Louis by JNE ... we were going after the authenticity of the original build. The ribs being built in this video are for the aircraft that came just BEFORE the Spirit ... These ribs will be going on a 1927 Ryan M-2. As for hammering the nails ... again, that is the way it was done. There are likely better ways of doing it today, but those ways are not original. The gussets are there more to keep the rib pieces in place once they are removed from the jig, rather than for strength in the structure, so a chip on a gusset really does not affect the structural integrity of the rib. It only affects the appearance of the rib. We only made this video to give some tips John has learned over the years of building wooden wing ribs, to make it a bit easier for those who are struggling with how to get theirs built ... and to give an idea of what it takes for those who have never built ribs before. Thanks for asking the questions, and Thanks for watching!
@dropdog395
@dropdog395 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of wood is used in the top and bottom strips? I can soak my stuff for a week and it still snaps the moment I go to bend it.
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 2 жыл бұрын
These cap strips are spruce. I also like to use Alaska Cedar. Be sure to bend the strips WITH the grain of the wood ... if you bend it against the grain they are likely to snap and if they don't snap there is a good chance you will still have a stress fracture!
@laszloungar549
@laszloungar549 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing!, What kind of nail material he use, that he can catch like that?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
Those are 1/4 inch, brass coated, steel nails. The steel in them are what make them catch the magnetized tack hammer so easily.
@laszloungar549
@laszloungar549 3 жыл бұрын
@@JNEAircraft Thanks a lot for the answer, i guessed he use some galvanized nails,
@JackieB12003
@JackieB12003 Жыл бұрын
Are you using bonderized aircraft nails? If so, do you know where I can buy them? I've read that Wicks and Aircraft Spruce don't sell them anymore.
@heathernorman4805
@heathernorman4805 Жыл бұрын
Yes he is. Because he was in the wing building business back in the late 1980's - early 1990's we had purchased a huge order of the nails. They didn't all get used up by the time he evolved to full general aviation restoration and these are some of what is left over from back then. If you are building an experimental airplane, the FAA has suggested using staples and then pulling the staples after it dries because the nails don't really do a whole lot. If you building a CERTIFICATED airplane then you do need to nail them since that is the process originally used. Not really sure where you might be able to find the bonderized nails today. Thanks for watching!
@JackieB12003
@JackieB12003 Жыл бұрын
@@heathernorman4805 Thanks! I’m building an Experimental aircraft, so I have plenty of options. I just like the look of the nails and wouldn’t mind the work of pounding them in by the thousands.
@buzzz241
@buzzz241 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t the wood strips get glued between rib edges?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
Once you put the glue on the gussets, it pretty much flows between them if there are gaps.
@buzzz241
@buzzz241 3 жыл бұрын
@@JNEAircraft Thanks for reply.
@maircraft4079
@maircraft4079 Жыл бұрын
What glue are you using?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft Жыл бұрын
I believe he was using Resorcinol on those ribs. Thanks for watching!
@jirvin4505
@jirvin4505 3 жыл бұрын
What glue is being used?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
I believe he was using Resorcinol glue on those ribs.
@autonomousindividual7780
@autonomousindividual7780 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's Urea Formaldehyde which has many names. Weldwood plastic resin or Cascamite are common. Fairly certain that's not recorsinol. I investigated glue quite a bit and it's a rabbit hole. I tried to get faith in recorsinol as it's the only "approved" glue. It's great but hard to get right as far as conditions and assembly. I think T-88 and FPL16A are excellent epoxies and much easier to use.
@dougkehoe3758
@dougkehoe3758 3 жыл бұрын
Hands on...! Totally cool
@paulhelman2376
@paulhelman2376 11 ай бұрын
Clark Y?
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 11 ай бұрын
Yes!
@dougkehoe3758
@dougkehoe3758 2 жыл бұрын
1/8th" gussett mal'l...?
@timepass-oc2kj
@timepass-oc2kj 3 жыл бұрын
Rib thickness and long plz
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
The majority of these ribs are 3/8" x 1/2" and they are 7' long.
@godmeherbaba5607
@godmeherbaba5607 Жыл бұрын
❣❣💟💟💘💘
@billjones3071
@billjones3071 Жыл бұрын
Whats the big deal
@JNEAircraft
@JNEAircraft Жыл бұрын
None at all. This is simply a demonstration of what John has learned to do over the years of building wood wing ribs, to make the job easier and run smoothly. Simply a suggestion for others who find themselves struggling with the task. Certainly there are multiple other ways of accomplishing the same end result ... this is just John's way. Thanks for watching!
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