Agreed on multiple points. I miss Hiram as well, I hope he is doing ok. And I also agree that this design is so much better than the other typical soda can stoves. Cheers.

Does anyone know what happened to Hiram? I loved his videos and haven't been able to get in touch with him to see how he is doing.

Dirk I was gonna say that as well...I rewatch his old videos all the time just for refreshers 😂 thanks CC for showing this again bc I LOVE this design on stoves! Have a blessed day👍

Cannot find carbon felt in my small janky town 😂 went to Harbor Freight, where they sell the welding stuff, and they don’t even carry it. Walmart, Tractor Supply, Coop & even a machine shop in town and nada...when I ask I get this blank stare?! Almost like I’m asking a foreign question in another language or something 🤦‍♀️🙄 haha guess Amazon will have to be my go to...lol idk why I shared all of that haha I guess I just wanted someone else feel my frustration 😬🤗will have to try Lowe’s...thx again CC

Same here. Often wonder how he's doing. It has been a while since I seen a build, too. Made a number of the "full size" Fancy Feast stoves for family and friends. Primarily as a way to heat a can of soup, if they lose power. Still over 300,000 without power, this evening, here in NC in the aftermath of Michael. Two hurricanes in a month.....

Im not sure I understand this. Any videos?

Thanks for the kind words!

It's toxic

great idea Steppi, I used to work at an aircraft supply factory and used the exact method you mensioned.

Thanks for commenting, your results sound very similar to mine. I use the small ones exclusively now in the summer and shoulder seasons. But like you said, in the winter I would prefer the original size with the larger fuel capacity.

Quinn The Eskimo thank you for watching!

Thank you for the kind words. Cheers.

Cmanof the woods centralUS I recommend you try this one. After I built my first one of these, I haven’t built any other designs. This is the stove that I finally settled on as the best. Hope it goes well for you!

Thanks for sharing your version and experience, and thank you for watching. You have some good ideas to consider there. Cheers.

Great ideas! Will have to give it a go. One concern is the strength of the small aluminum can that has to support the pot & it's contents.

KrizAkoni Cheers, thanks for watching!

The cotton is not burning out? It would make things much easier, cotton is easily avaliable.

You can even use sand...but anything that burns just doesn't last as long as carbon felt. I've tried air, but it doesn't work so well (I tried to keep the spacing as even as possible)...but in a pinch, under good conditions it can work.

Toilet paper works awesome. No cost. No stores!

Oldtimer Lee thanks for the kind words. Someone else mentioned adding the base ring to the full size stove. And I agree with you both, I think I need to add it to my bigger one, it’s a great idea!

The Fancy Feast Hiram built with his simmer ring can bake or cook anything you throw at it, this version is great if your looking for the fastest boil on a half an oz. but that's it. otherwise the original Hiram version is overall the best one out there along with what I call the Trangia looking knockoff on Amazon., I use both.

Great tip! Did you trim it already? what is the perfect width? Thx!

thexitto : I have kept mine the way I originally made it - with the overlap. I don't imagine I'll ever need to trim anything now. The cat-can stove is not my favorite stove. My favorite (although bulky) is the Ikea silverware container stove. I did absolutely no modifications to mine. If you're not familiar with it, it's a stainless steel cylinder with holes drilled all the way around it and on the bottom from the factory. I originally had a mesh basket underneath it to lift it off the ground and allow good airflow. There are many methods of achieving bottom airflow. Now I use a 'Light My Fire' brand 'Grandpa's FireGrill' as my spacer that is also my grill. I cooked three hotdogs at once tonight with it! My Ikea stove is a bit bulky, but fuel is endless if you are lucky enough to camp where fire-bans aren't an issue. I'm lucky like that at the moment. I often make three cups of coffee in the mornings at camp and my AeroPress Go fits inside my Ikea Stove, so although somewhat bulky my whole 'kitchen' nests nicely together with almost no 'dead space'. So I literally have a stove with an endless fuel supply, a GRILL, an espresso machine!, and a firepit that I can safely use in a camp without an existing fire-ring without any evidence that a fire was there. Even though it sounds heavy it's not - if you like multiple cups of coffee and the ability to cook (and not just rehydrate) at camp it's a GREAT stove. I have a low quality video of my setup on my KZfaq channel that gives the weights and everything. I have now used it many, many times and absolutely love it. It even makes a good 'companion fire' for lonely camps and puts off enough heat to sit by on a cold night if you're not ready to go to bed when the sun goes down. I also use it as my starter system when I build a fire in a fire-ring. It's easy to light damp twigs in (with a small amount of cheater paper) and then dump out the fire and build a large fire on top of the established flames. I'm due to make an update video on the Ikea Stove now that I've dialed my whole kit in. I'm even at camp right now laying in my hammock as I type this, so I'll probably record the video and post it tomorrow as I enjoy my morning coffee! Thanks for encouraging me to tend to my KZfaq channel. 👍

Thank you for the kind words, and thanks for watching.

Thanks for watching!

I have not tried that, but the wick on this stove acts to help vaporize the fuel quickly. So this stove does not need time to prime and bloom, as soon as you light the wick the stove is burning and ready to cook.

Thank you, Martina. I gave you credit for the idea at the end of the video!

you're the best ColoradoCamper : thank you!

Martina Dejaquiz is this about the size you are using for your stove as well?

I understand that sentiment, and I like the basic Fancy Feast stove. However where I live it gets cold, a lot, and the original Fancy Feast really struggles to get going in the cold. The carbon felt solves that issue.

No you don't really need to press the ring onto the base. You could easily get by with just the fuel cup portion, and it will still be a very stable and functional stove. Very good point, cheers.

I was about to ask the same question.

I've done the same with a hair spray that has the same diameter. For some reason I didn't like the way it burned, it seemed to burn hotter and use fuel faster. I need to experiment with it more, maybe if I change the length of the inner can it would solve my problems. Cheers, thanks for commenting.

Small V8 veggie juice cans are same size too plus thin and light.

Thank you. The pot I usually use only holds about 500ml of water. But with an ounce of fuel the stove isn’t quite at capacity, and it will bring 500ml of ice-cold water to a rolling boil and boil it for a couple minutes. I’ve never had to refuel it before the water boils.

@@ColoradoCamper Great thanks. I'd probably boil up to 700ml sometimes (900ml pot) at the most, so maybe I'll make the original taller one, at least first. I guess it's possible to make one in between the two sizes of yours using the method in the video?

Thanks for watching!

Kurt it came that color. I have seen cans that are blue/green like this one and also pink, in addition to the typical silver and brass colors. I think it was a Fancy Feast brand can.

No, just gives a bit more stability to the stove.

I haven't measured it, and the fuel capacity is customizable based on how big you make the cup when you make the cuts. The one I show here will likely hold about an ounce safely, maybe 1.5 max, but that's just my hunch from using it.

Chuck Littleton I made plenty of mediocre stoves before settling on this design. The main reason I do videos about this stove is to try to save others the hassle I went through

I've made dozens of crap stoves. I now make only cat can style, but at different diameters from tin cans to fit in various size cook sets. Papper towel folded will replace carbon felt and last for multiple uses.

i got some cheap chinese stuff, which works fine for stoves.

what should the thickness be for this stove? Thanks!

.....Of the carbon felt? Thanks

I see what you mean, but the great thing about stoves with an exposed wick like this is that they really don't need any pre-heating at all. One minor advantage to the original design is that the ring would catch any spills if you filled the stove all the way full and it tired to leak a little fuel out once it got burning. But I think the added stability for the design shown in this video is the best advantage. Though one could make a stove with two rings, basically blending both designs together.

yea thats very true...i think im going to build that cut down version

@@ColoradoCamper I've found that if I put the pressure relief holes just above the out can edge, it's easier to tell if I'm about to overfill, and I cheat a little on my starts sometimes by putting a little alcohol near one of the holes and it seems to start quicker.

Cheers, thanks for watching.

I made the smaller one because I experience the opposite problem - for me the regular fancy feast stoves have way more fuel capacity than I need. They will hold over 3oz of fuel, that's how much fuel I would carry for a whole overnight trip! I usually use about 1/2-3/4oz at a time. Putting the base ring on a regular one will help with the stability. Great idea, I might have to do the same. Though I hardly carry the full size one anymore. Cheers and thanks for commenting.

@@ColoradoCamper maybe my issue is that I'm not using carbon felt. I don't have any so I just use rolled up strips of jeans material which I would imagine holds far less fuel. That carbon felt looks super spongey. Can't wait to get my hands on some!

On Amazon it's called HIGH TEMP FELT PLUMBERS PAD 12 x 12 for $15

Moose I didn’t even think of jeans! Thx 👍

Bobby Harper it’s at Lowe’s for about $4

I haven't measured it, but i would guess something like 10-12 minutes.

The base ring has no real need. I just use it because it does slightly increase the stability and adds a little strength.

I use denatured alcohol from my local hardware store. You can see this stove in use in these videos of mine: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jah0ibd4vp7dgp8.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMyWlaajqreshXk.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7KSZ5V0r9fIhIE.html

I haven't made a bigger version, but I know that some people have used larger cans, such as a tuna fish can. The design is easily scaled up, you essentially need two cans that differ in diameter by ~1/2 inch or so and then the same construction method applies. Cheers.

Thanks for the reply, CC. Yeah, I guess this isn't "rocket science". I still have not scrounged for "2 just the right size large cans" for a larger stove, but DEFINITELY will. With the intense storms and power failures we've been having, and most likely will continue to get, having a dependable emergency stove for cooking for multiple people, (or just larger amounts of food) should be something we all have, I think. Thanks a ton!

Im working on an easily purchased standard can stove now, i wilm upload it once Finalized. Prototype boils at propane speed with alcohol and no pressure. Stay tuned.

Sonic&Knuckles &Womble I don’t know, I don’t own a kelly kettle

@@ColoradoCamper probably would, is cool stuff man! I just saw a video on a single tealight alcohol stove noiling 2 cups of water in 9 minutes, with the right stuff you could use very little fuel

go to www.minibulldesign.com/ProductCart/pc/home.asp

I don't have boil times that I can quote you for this stove. As for efficiency, it can boil 2 cups of water using 0.5-0.75oz of fuel. The reason I like stoves with wicks if because they perform so well in cold weather. See the video linked in the description of this video titled "The Best Alcohol Stove Out There (IMO)" for more details on that.

Bought half that much carbon felt last year cost me 15.00 at one of the tool stores

1/8" doubled over = 1/4"

Fuel capacity depends on where you choose to cut the bottom portion, so you can choose to cut it shorter or taller. The way I have mine done in this video has a capacity of about 1oz.

@@ColoradoCamper do you know the burn time on 1 oz, in perfect conditions?

I haven't had that experience with the ones I have built. They burn about the same as the full size version. And I have never tried using fiberglass so I can't say how your idea would work. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

I've messed around with this general design and it seems that within a certain range, if you shorten the distance between the two can edges, the alcohol burns more slowly...if you go somewhere beyond an inch (inch and a half??) the stove just doesn't work as well. YMMV.

I noticed it, but dismissed it as not needing further scrutiny. Well done!

Atube Viewer I haven’t tried a capillary action stove. I do not think it would light easily in cold weather, that is the biggest advantage of having a stove with a wicking material.

@@ColoradoCamper thanks for taking some time to reply, I appreciate it. If you do a short trip in some real cold, maybe you could test it in real life. tks again

Yes, anything that won't burn and will absorb the fuel will work. Lots of people use fiberglass rope or webbing.

You can make it as large or as small as you want to. I find this size to be perfect for all of my camp cooking tasks. It will hold enough fuel to burn for about 20 minutes, but I never need that much fuel in a single burn.

When I pour fuel into the stove it soaks into the wick right away, so by the time I put the fuel bottle down and get my lighter out, it's ready to light.

Just don't overfill, and don't forget the pressure relief holes...trust me on that one :p

Sinfonian Barelytone that’s a bummer. We occasionally have open burning restriction here, but usually not too bad. This summer was pretty dry and we had lots of fire bans. Unless I am prevented by a fire ban, this is the stove I use almost every time these days.

I usually use 3/4 oz, but it can hold more.

Steel wool instead of the carbon felt?

Those are grommets that came with the cloth, as purchased.. They are just waste.. A plumber would find them helpful for cinching it around a pipe, when soldering..

@@noggler6211 Mog Gyver was talking about the security tab attached to the grommet. Mine came with one also. Must be a highly stolen item.

I don't know, wish I did.

Obviously you have missed the point behind all of this.

Here you can buy the regular sized Fancy feast stove. www.woodgaz-stove.com/fancee-feest.php

Hay problema aqui?

No ! Amigo , es broma si yo ni se ingles.

@@brunodiaz8007 Yo comprendo. Yo hablo espanol un poco y muy mal!

@@ColoradoCamper 😃 un abrazo amigo!!

Ok