Building the SLOWEST Possible Plane In Trailmakers!

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Building the SLOWEST Possible Plane In Trailmakers!

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ScrapMan

Күн бұрын

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@FerDutchman Жыл бұрын

"Once we find out everything that doesn't work, we that will be left, is what works." - Scrapman 2023

@HimotoYasui Жыл бұрын

This. This is a Kerbal way.

@moroblizniak4457 Жыл бұрын

Thisis what russia is doing rn.

@veriepic Жыл бұрын

@@moroblizniak4457 u mean ukraine

@ShadowWolf2508plays Жыл бұрын

"The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, Or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is Greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective Commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a Position where it isn't, And arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, Is now the position that it wasn't, And it follows that the position that It was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that It wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, The variation being the difference between Where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a Significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information The missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, Within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, Or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of Where it shouldn't be, and where it was, It is able to obtain the deviation And its variation, which is called error." Same vibe

@legendaryblob8227 Жыл бұрын

*all that will be left

@Zytharr03 Жыл бұрын

15:13 I love that he's got so much lift that his angle of attack is negative to maintain altitude

@locke_ytb Жыл бұрын

yeah 16:33 😅

@jaspermooren5883 3 ай бұрын

Yeah I wonder if the game allows for perpetual motion because of how the lift works. If the lift goes forward you're technically able to maintain speed by having forwards an upwards lift. Of course this doesn't work in the real world, but Trailmakers physics is def not real world physics. If it is possible to have enough forwards lift to counteract the drag it's possible.

@justinpatterson5291 Жыл бұрын

The air must be super viscous in trail makers. It's like flying through half set jello.

@ledocteur7701 Жыл бұрын

and considering how slow airplanes are compared to real life, it would support the idea of air jello. irl, a Cessna can easily achieve 200 kmh, in trailmaker, that's the speed of a fighter jet.

@AgentWest Жыл бұрын

From what i remember, TM does not really have "air", the wings essentially reduce weight of the craft as a whole instead of producing lift. In most cases it is functionally the same, but effect is different when you get to extremes like this lowest speed.

@justinpatterson5291 9 ай бұрын

Kosmo's new quantum drive warps up to a brisk jog's pace when you push the drive cores together super close. It's funny to watch. I wanted to compact the thing and it just crawled everywhere. Like a super slow mo vtol.

@RamadaArtist 4 ай бұрын

@@AgentWest There's definitely some kind of functional air resistance. Obviously your speed is affected by how aerodynamic the vehicle is, but it's also possible to build usable planes with no "lift" producing parts. You can still build functional flight control surfaces using only aerodynamic blocks, so the game is calculating differing air resistance around the airframe somehow.

@quakxy_dukx Жыл бұрын

I looked it up and apparently the slowest plane irl had a minimum airspeed of 30kph so I think you did pretty good

@kederaji Жыл бұрын

That plane often takes off vertically because of headwinds.

@lonelee5353 9 ай бұрын

@@kederaji does that mean you could just stop the plane in midair if you had enough headwind 😭

@Vaprol. Жыл бұрын

You should’ve activated the flaps They are specifically designed to get you more lift when going slower, and slow you down

@magicmushrum6661 Жыл бұрын

agreed I'm surprised he didn't

@masterdragon2698 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! It was triggering me the entire video

@VascoCC95 11 ай бұрын

I think he does that on purpose... I mean... There are episodes where he uses and EXPLAINS what flaps are and others where you cringe with his non-use of flaps when it's the obvious solution... 🤦🏼‍♂

@yot387 Жыл бұрын

Your editor does an incredible work passing the audio track through filters on the sections when you speak so it sounds like dimmer, with reverb...like being "underwater" and music is playing. Great inmersive job.

@Hlebuw3k Жыл бұрын

I thought he edited his own videos

@thundervallie Жыл бұрын

@@Hlebuw3k he used to

@lunar_moth777 9 ай бұрын

@@Hlebuw3khe hired a new editor recently but he hired the last editor before the airborne campaign I think

@Arno1112 Жыл бұрын

I managed to build a plane that goes around 4 kph, it's basically just a biplane with 6 sets of wings

@nefarioulyte9996 Жыл бұрын

Then it's no longer a biplane

@watcher-zo7vk Жыл бұрын

should we call it a hexaplane then?

@Petq011 Жыл бұрын

Also, probably fewer wings and some actual flap usage might help with that?

@gambler301 Жыл бұрын

definitely@@watcher-zo7vk

@btmb Жыл бұрын

i had one that looks like its frozen in mid air

@ferncancersong Жыл бұрын

In the seas expansion it can technically qualify as 0kph if we are going into the wind and the wind pushing backwards on the wing lets us float without falling and thrust pushing us with equal speed as the wind although he didn't say you have to go forward I think

@Nevir202 Жыл бұрын

I like your rules lawyering. "Hey, I have 0 relative groundspeed, it doesn't MATTER what my airspeed is!" Given that, it would be hilarious to build something that is FAST with a lot of lift and then just fly into the high winds at the perimeter till you achieve 0 groundspeed.

@Hlebuw3k Жыл бұрын

Man, you can WALK faster than that plane! That's amazing, I love it.

@MrJake892 Жыл бұрын

In the process of trying to make the slowest plane, you have essentially accomplished in making something akin to a balloon 😄😄😄 Congratulations sir, the Wright Brothers would be thoroughly confused o7

@bonesciencegaming3863 Жыл бұрын

10:52 that made me think of making you do a plane that is afraid of landing, so funny that it refuses to land

@Galactic-Spaceflight Жыл бұрын

Like his dragster that was afraid of speed

@alekssrandomworld3748 Жыл бұрын

Scrapman i would like to see a 1v1v1v1 dogfight where everyone builds a plane and you randomly chose who gets whos plane you can get your own if you are lucky the creator also gets to chose the camera angel you have to use this can be a camera block.

@kindagamer525 Жыл бұрын

"Grammer" is obviously your favorite subject in school.

@AlRizz187 Жыл бұрын

🤓@@kindagamer525

@Vulcan. Жыл бұрын

@@kindagamer525 "grandma"*

@hommerion2830 Жыл бұрын

It would be funny if he uses this plane. So one of the others would have to use it.

@moroblizniak4457 Жыл бұрын

11:00 And this is when logic gates step in. Every logic gate have output slider, you can have as many power outputs you want essentially. So you have take off power and cruise power binded to differend buttons.

@jasonanderson438 Жыл бұрын

Loved watching you try land a plane that takes off at 9 mph😂

@archidonwarrior Жыл бұрын

I think the lifting function of the wings might only "activate" at a certain speed, so that your plane doesn't float away for no reason when you park it. Seeing some pretty weird movements from scrapman's plane which might be explained by that.

@RedstoneAceTheSecond Жыл бұрын

Day two of I've got 3 ideas for you, 1: Player 1 builds a plane with wheels on the tips of the wings. Player 2 makes a runway with two lanes and a gap in between. Then land the plane on that runway. 2: Build a plane which can transform into a submarine upon contact with the water (like, wings turn in and stuff). 3: Test yours and your friends building skills by turning animals into a vehicles (maybe multiple animals per person but that might be too time consuming). Points for form and points for function

@davidaugustofc2574 Жыл бұрын

Scrapman has a whole lot of experience in this challenge already 😅

@--cook-- Жыл бұрын

this idea turned out to be way funnier than i was expecting, good job scrap!

@RamadaArtist 4 ай бұрын

4:13 Props to the editor for actually explaining the mechanics here

@anyways2485 Жыл бұрын

This is the epitome of “it doesn’t have to work great, it just has to work” - scrapman

@goldjaws Жыл бұрын

It’s great to see you have so much fun with this concept. I would like to see you do this again, but see if you can use sails for thrust.

@aleksidimitrov2312 Жыл бұрын

To use the same thruster for lift off and for maintaining a flight you can use a logic gate with a different key that has its output limited and the thrusters themselves have a key that is used to lift off. Hope this helps

@nikoloid5388 Жыл бұрын

ive been wondering if you're planning to continiue the random games series? it was really fun watching you play random games once in a while besides the main games. (also please continiue raft with kan, it got a lot of updates i think)

@35manning Жыл бұрын

I just had a crazy idea. Very crazy. Scrapman level crazy. A dog fight challenge, but thrusters are stabilised to ALWAYS point horizontal. Mounted to your plane with a rotator and steering hinges, so as you roll left / right and as you pitch up / down, the thrusters stay level to the horizon. The thrusters may be mounted on the front OR the back (but not both). The challenge of it is, if you try to flight straight up vertically, front mounted thrusters will try to pull you straight, rear mounted thrusters will try to make you back flip. So, you will be forced to either climb and descend slowly OR build up speed and turn off thrust as you climb / descend fast.

@Xmar4 Жыл бұрын

OMG THE EDITOR NOTES ABOUT THE PLANE! Love it!

@rojnx9 Жыл бұрын

This is a thing in real life too, they are called S-TOL (short take off and landing) competitions, the planes have to fly really slowly to land in a really short distance.

@favorites8651 Жыл бұрын

Multiplayer suggestion. Dogfight but turrets are mounted facing upward on the plane rather than forward. This 1) makes it much harder to land a hit, changing dogfight dynamics 2) offers building restrictions considering the aerodynamics and range of the turrets to avoid shooting yourself and 3) gets rid of the high ground advantage because being above your opponent makes you easier to shoot, forcing battles down to an intensely close distance to the ground.

@longnek1222 Жыл бұрын

Love these man keep up the work

@frakis2771 8 ай бұрын

I built a helichopter during the campaign. I had modular wings and the chopper engine, but not copter blades. So I made a functionin copter with two pairs of spinning bits in opposite directions. It went up and controlled very well, but I couldn't get it to go down. It had so much lift that it just hovered in place with no power.

@Chase4FreeWiFi Жыл бұрын

Man, this video was so entertaining and exciting to watch. I barely even blinked through out the video. Awesome job, Scrapman!

@prorecon89 Жыл бұрын

people are supposed to blink.

@SDPhantomGamer Жыл бұрын

RCE did this a couple years ago, though it was interesting seeing the new parts used.

@Rellek2700 11 ай бұрын

I can remember that too. RCE got a speed of 3mph or kph with a lot more wings

@skullfire4725 Жыл бұрын

Scrapman here is a idea for you do a 1v1v1v1 by making a walking turrent and battle. You can also do a 2v2 that one person is shooting while the othr is controlling the walking turrent. Day 1.5 of asking scrapman to do this

@rendoocreations2227 Жыл бұрын

I almost cried when he didn't use the flaps 😂. Very impressive that he did that well without them though

@TheLuconic Жыл бұрын

Scrap man, what if you do an air bike race? Basically create planes that uses bike seats but it has to be compact like this build or maybe with more blocks. Like 100 blocks and the race itself that the racers has to stay to the ground as much as possible, and you do crazy turns and such. Idk why but this video is giving me that idea.

@brandonatherton Жыл бұрын

Well, I think Scrapman just broke every future glider challenge, lol.

@xX_R0yalNe1n_mdm-12_Xx Жыл бұрын

knowing that being here before this gets popular is amazing, claim ur reward: 👑🏆

@jjsanimations 11 ай бұрын

ive had this idea on my mind for a little while: make a plane that can stop mid-air. like, youre flying and you press a key to just lose all/most momentum. this could be used for dodging missiles and stuff in battles. hope this idea makes sense and is actually possible :)

@locke_ytb Жыл бұрын

I think this is officially the trippiest ScrapMan video I have ever seen.

@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning 11 ай бұрын

If Yzuei ever watches this Vid, he might well wonder if you have totally lost your Marbles... XD

@Yesenn 10 ай бұрын

A slow vehicle in Trailmakers actually has a pretty big advantage. It can repair infinitely without a cooldown. The cooldown bar only appears when you're moving at a fast enough speed. If this plane had some extra thrusters to go super fast, and be able to brake down to a slow speed, repair, and continue going fast, it'd be very good in PVP.

@knicechawt Жыл бұрын

the editor really helps out with the small explanations here and there

@skinlesspartan7 Жыл бұрын

I saw Real Civil Engineer do this, it's really interesting to see the differences in thought processes they have on how to do this

@rishitwalia3865 Жыл бұрын

Yeah i thought he did a vid on the topic

@melissabloom8747 11 ай бұрын

RCE kind of faced the same problem when he made the video 2 years ago. He managed to take off at 1 mph, going 3-4 ish mph forward, but also gaining speed up to 30mph as the plane goes sideways.

@MrMattkid Жыл бұрын

So idk how this'll work in trailmakers, but you could tilt the wing tips up a little to make it naturally stay level. In real life, if it rolls to either direction, the angled tip on the downward side ends, generating more downward force pushing it back up, leveling it back out. Like is said, though. idk how well that'll work in trailmakers.

@qgaucho9088 11 ай бұрын

Imagine a battle but you can only use very small and underpowered motors, thrusters, wheels, and vehicles themselves but attach a gunpowder cannon to each and see how far it flings you back when you try to shoot the other player.

@mrnaris4852 Жыл бұрын

Using the wing piece with flaps is hurting your lift, they produce less lift than normal modular wings, you can just test this out by placing wings on build mode and watching the center of lift move.

@autisticaeronaut Жыл бұрын

I'm suprised scrapman didn't just make a giant box of wings

@user-lj3ez7so4p 10 ай бұрын

U are an amazing youtuber u inspired me to get this game u inspired me to make good planes and u can do any challenge without failing

@Xalder60 Жыл бұрын

Is the ground effect simulated in Trailmakers? At some points it felt like the plane was sitting on a cushion of air

@Luziferne Жыл бұрын

The sideways motion is due to the sideways ailerons, a better way would be logic Like a front facing( 🐥) speed-sensor set to activate below threshold, set threshold to 3-4-5kmph and activate an and-gate with it, couple an or-gate set to space(for thrust) into the and-gate. Now you only have thrust if you press space and your speed is below the set threshold. If you crash, you are to slow... if still fly, set the speed a bit slower or… add wings AND set to a slower speed

@steeljawX Жыл бұрын

Did you turn down the steering influence of the air resistance ailerons? I'm wondering if those might have been completely "on" and that was what was driving you sideways.

@chris993361 Жыл бұрын

You used a bunch of stuff to increase drag, but those flap wings if you set the flaps to toggle will increase lift and drag at the touch of a button.

@Valykry Жыл бұрын

So you have stumbled across STOL (slow take off & land) aircraft. Entire real world competitions are held on this concept. Funnily enough, the speeds you managed to get down to are also comparable to the real world results. (Though admittedly, they often have a bit of a headwind)

@ethanhobson7161 Жыл бұрын

When I tried to make a glider I found that at a certain point when the lift to weight ratio is so low the plane starts defying physics and not increasing in speed no matter the angle

@michaelkaho8586 Жыл бұрын

As always scrapman makes the best vids😊😊

@Berilaco Жыл бұрын

I would be happy if you and some other guys could do a supercar/hypercar build battle with 3 catigories... looks(how realistic it looks), controlability(in that circuit race) and overall speed(either centrifuge or dragrace... maybe both)

@jorge8596 9 ай бұрын

So I did some math and assuming 1m = 4 blocks, minimum speed of 5km/h, and standard Earth gravity and air density, this airplane has a maximum lift coefficient of 41.25 !!! For reference, your average real life airfoil will have around 1.5 for a plain clean wing and 2.4-3.3 with high lift devices (flaps, slats). I've looked around on the internet and the highest number I've come across was 12 for a crazy theoretical wing with powerful suction devices that wouldn't stall even at 70°AoA. Trailmakers has some real wacky physics when you push it to its limits

@tomasparagas7531 Жыл бұрын

it's been a long time since I've been watching you videos before

@zat-1-fury Жыл бұрын

Plane Physics in real life: I want to go slow Trail-makers plane physics: oh slow you say …

@brettmacaulay397 Жыл бұрын

The first plane reminded me of a falling leaf. So I thought can you make creations that fall the slowest without engine power/balloons ect. Like trees that drop those spinning seed pods that fall real slow

@Pystro Жыл бұрын

Next challenge: Flying as *low* as possible. Build a plane that can automatically keep a set altitude and see how low you can fly without touching the sea in this map or the ground in the test map. And of course, you'll want to go supersonic so that it's not too easy.

@shay5025 Жыл бұрын

Put thrusters on servos connected to an angle sensor that always makes the thrusters point exactly horizontal

@Pystro Жыл бұрын

...which would also give you a place for the vertical speed sensors to read true vertical speed. And having that information, you might be able to automate keeping a constant altitude.

@shay5025 Жыл бұрын

Then you connect thrusters to downward velocity and it settles on slowest speed.

@SpartanZ198 Жыл бұрын

the helicopter blades generate a lot of resistance making you just float, and they might work for what your trying to do.

@c_death Жыл бұрын

Scrapman - i need lift and to go slow (adds more wings) Flaps - Am I a joke to you?

@Pumpnineteen Жыл бұрын

RCE did this challenge a while ago, and I think he did go down to 1kph with like 20 stacks of wings :>. This was before the air update, so things may have changed

@Pystro Жыл бұрын

Indeed. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8WYaLmm2pnKhqc.html RCE did this almost a year ago. (Before the airborne update; I don't know if that changed the physics of existing wings though.) He did it by just adding so many wings that any movement (including just from the wings flexing) created enough lift to get him airborne. So I don't know if that counts as actually flying or if its just using glitches.

@noonethatyouknow5555 Жыл бұрын

this is how fast the plane feels like it's moving when there's a crying child sitting next to you

@astraldragon2820 Жыл бұрын

Good job Scrap Man, you successfully recreated a falling leaf 😂

@AgentWest Жыл бұрын

Who knows, maybe "short take off and landing" contests can be a thing in TM as well now that several channels made videos about this.

@limbomask4745 Жыл бұрын

My grandpa said he made a paper (?) and wood (?) plane that would float in place on the slightest draft. He used to make planes and would throw them out the window with his address on them so that if they were found the could be returned. This is one of the many he lost, I don't know if he threw it and it never came back or it just got damaged and someone threw it away, but I don't doubt it's real, given his experience in mechanics.

@anirudhaharikrishnan7465 11 ай бұрын

Cool. RCE acheived 1kph a year ago or something like that. It would be cool if there was a whole challenge to get the slowest vehicles

@s0m3Guy37 Жыл бұрын

Something something sniper tanks vs low armored cars? Sounds like a fun capture the flag type game for trailmakers

@kederaji Жыл бұрын

Your comment on AOA is why we design flight computers with angle of attack and angle of sideslip as core sensors. We need to know those things. Hi my name is kederaji and I make planes.

@Drago_Whooves Жыл бұрын

the next Multiplayer Glider challenge is gonna be interesting

@beezin4374 Жыл бұрын

i cant believe that he just found out that this much drag can just make you float

@nevernether3368 Жыл бұрын

I love slow flying vehicles and wanna build one irl that flies slower then walking speed, but dirigibles go off course with a slight breeze and I never thought of just extreme lightweight plane.

@CryoiX Жыл бұрын

6:34 this is a great example of the ground effect

@thorvicnet Жыл бұрын

more like 10:30

@Nevir202 Жыл бұрын

In KSP, at least last time I played it, if you built a plane like this, but with no engines and launched it with something like a rocket sled, your aerodynamic surfaces created forces when they actuated, which were sufficient to stay airborne indefinitely, and if fact made it IMPOSSIBLE to land, of you touched the controls while trying to do it.... Well outside of plowing it into the ground, but it mean a normal, soft landing was impossible. Because when you would try to pitch up to scrub away the last of your speed, you would actually gain speed and climb lol.

@FerDutchman Жыл бұрын

"It is just as much about the journey, as it is the destination" - Scrapman 2023

@user-zr6wy7vj2b 10 ай бұрын

i love how scrapman somehow made a plane slower then the car you start with in stranded in space

@adriansrealm Жыл бұрын

It's the bomb wheel glider evolution all over again.

@blub999 Жыл бұрын

Adding stick with dynamite at the end and using this for fights would be awesome

@N_T1 Жыл бұрын

“I’m not German” 🤣🤣 thought you were AH for a second…

@warkus123 Жыл бұрын

10:35 that thing looks like you're trying to control a sheet of paper when it's windy...

@calciumguy1041 10 ай бұрын

Imagine a plane like this irl, like just seeing someone pretty much hover without any upwards propulsion

@nic2097 11 ай бұрын

I... I don't think the game was designed to do this😂 brilliant

@draconiumdragon5883 Жыл бұрын

You should do a multiplayer challenge with this concept

@Skylar_minecraft 8 ай бұрын

this would be an amazing ground attack plane, especially if you made it have a mode where it went 100kmph+, as well as almost being able to hover

@Prepare-uranus- 6 ай бұрын

0:03 this is genius plane design here

@davidharper494 Жыл бұрын

Y'all should do a slow plane dog fight.

@ZekeTheSquirrel Жыл бұрын

I would think enabling some flaps could get you slower with fewer wings as well.

@johnobdy Жыл бұрын

9:53 was irritated for a second 😂 🇩🇪

@MrCavespider11 Жыл бұрын

Do 1v2 parasite fighters vs cargo plane.parasite fighter has 1 or 2 smart cannons and 30 block limit and cargo plane has 2 miniguns that are controlled by the cargo plane

@moseslmps6261 Жыл бұрын

put a SPEED LIMITER ON THE PROPELLER, thats set on a toggle button, limiter will turn on when you lift in the air, and propeller can spin slower

@legolooper Жыл бұрын

You could have used an OR logic gate for the thruster power to be adjusted, keep the thruster’s settings at 10.00 and the logic at 0.25 or something, then set the logic gate and the thruster to diff buttons.