The Cybertron scene completely ignored The Last Knight. I kinda do want an extended cut of the Bumblebee with the Cybertron scene and parts of the original opening included with the part where Bee arrived to Earth. In the original opening their was an error where Bumblebee removed the harpoon out of his chest and at the end of the original opening, Bee still had the harpoon in his chest and in the final cut where he got to the mountain like rocks which is a mine he removed the final cut that would have to stay the same as seen in the film. Everything else after original opening would still be the same. The only part of that original opening that needs to be ignored is the harpoon removal because we cannot see the harpoon removal twice.

@@austinmichael3086 BB is a reboot, of course, it ignored TLK.

HE LOST HIS MEMORY, of course, he acts like a child. He doesn't remember shit. What argument is this? You'd have to be in Kindergarten to make this argument.

Are you honestly telling me that no fan of Transformers has ever wanted to see the War on Cybertron? That scene nails more than just fanservice, it shows us something every fan has always wanted to see.

@@austinmichael3086 probably because tlk is a shit movie and the bay movies’ continuity is totally fucked lol

Why isn't this the top comment 😂

Please delete this, this makes me uncomfortable, thank you Illogical as fk plz stay away from my thighs

And we haven't even mentioned his chest yet!

The Shockwavussy got me acting illogical

grow up stop jacking it to a 30 foot robots thighs

I think it's just that Wheeljack's G1 design is a pretty unique and genuinely cool design, and after the mess that was Q in DOTM, it was nice to see a version of the character fans recognize and isn't just unceremoniously killed off. ROTB's design is a little off-putting since the film seems to take place in the same universe as Bumblebee, and he's the character that changed the most compared to most of the other characters that appeared in both movies.

Honestly g1 wheeljacks design is just so good that any other looks silly. Rise of the beasts wheeljack looks more like outback and should have been him instead.

Oretty sure wheeljacks been around sonce the 80s amd not 20 seconds.

Are you suggesting an extended version of the film with both scenes?

@@austinmichael3086 It would make sense. The scenes don't really contradict each other XD If I'm remembering wrong, Bumblebee doesn't get his memory wiped before he got attacked by the decepticons. The movie should've been. Bumblebee gets sent to Earth, he meets the military, tries to negotiate, nah, gets attacked by decepticons, and manages to escape but with his memories and voice broken, then the entire movie starts as usual.

@Walex The cgi in Rise Of The Beasts is just fine lol. The trailer shown was just an early build of the movie.

​@Designated Productions Yeah your right but the studio that doing the cgi is a new studio and i believe that ROTB is there first big thing they have done and i think there's more to it but i forgot

My guy the cgi isn't finished yet, by your logic the cgi for tf4 wasn't good period even though it was unfinished in the first trailers and finished by the time the movie came out

​@@mmouse1301 not even close. Rotb's CGI is done by the Moving Picture Company who were founded in the 70s and also worked on the harry potter films, life of pi and several marvel and DC films.

Well like you said, his memory was gone. After his fight with Blitzwing, he basically has no idea what's going on, and during the rage moment, he regains his memory, it's literally just like the the Iron Giant. The reason why he's so hostile towards S7 is because they attacked him when he was trying to persuade them that he's not an enemy and afterwards, they joined the deceptions and kidnapped him to be tortured by Shatter and Dropkick. Grant it, they were being played by the deceptions, but Bee didn't know that, so it's justified that he's not exactly happy, and Charlie getting hurt was the straw that broke the camel's back.

@@kingbash6466 You both (King & Tim) have really good points & I agree, what you guys said is exactly what happened in the movie. & also, I really like the Cybertron scene, but the rest of the movie is still amazing, BBM is hands down the best TF live-action movie cuz the story is solid & it actually FEELS like a TF movie unlike alot of the Bayverse.

Agree. Bumblebee is my least favourite Transformers film.

I agree. On Cybertron the G1 designs are fine but if they are on Earth those designs would look kind of silly and not fit.

I disagree somewhat, i think designs like soundwave and some of the autbots wouldnt fit on earth, but this is cybertron, however desings like shockwave(argueble, but i think making him super g1 and flat would fit his alien personality) the seekers(the seekers as seen with blitzwing look amazing and fit) optimus prime all fit perfectlyon earth, and i think the main issue people have is that we just want elements of the charecters from bb in rotb, you give the new wheeljack the antenna, face mask and more subtle wings, no one, no one would complain about the design, you give mirage a little more flat surfaces and a more accurate head, then ye it would be fine, also dropkick and shatter have cybertron designs in the cliffjumper death scene that match the cybertron designs a lot better then the earth ones

@@sealco yeah good point but my problem is that most of the designs in the cybertron scene (aside from optimus and the seekers) just don't look very realistic. Sure they do look somewhat robotic, but when compared to Dropkick, Shatter, Blitzwing, and Bumblebee's designs they just don't fit within the universe. The designs just clash with each over to the point where they look like they're from completely different continuities, aside from the fact that they're both live action. For example, while soundwave and shockwaves designs are very impressive, they just aren't detailed enough and look more like mcdonalds toys more than giant advanced alien robots billions of miles through the galaxy. In *MY* opinion, the 2007 film tie in comics did it best where the transformers designs actually look *alien*. As flawed as the Michael Bay movies are, there's genuinely a lot to love about them. The reason why the 2007 designs where so iconic was because they genuinely looked realistic (as realistic as giant alien robots that turn into cars can get). The problem is that despite the Bumblebee designs looking very impressive and well made, there just isn't enough mechanical detail to make them look realistic, And the G1-ish designs just don't fit in with the real world. And in the Michael Bay movies, made cybertron look very realistic. Instead of being some colorful neon metropolis with loads of flashy lights and shiny futuristic buildings, it was very dull and grey to the point where it felt truly *alien* and grounded in reality and actually felt like a place torn apart by the horrors of war. My point is that the G1 inspired designs while very cool looking, just don't fit in live action and generally don't look very realistic.

@@Dingle-God1987 i can see where your coming from, the only thing i strongly disagree with is cybertron, instead of hexagons it looks cities and levels, you can see the infastructure

I’m surprised no one else has brought this up. The cybertron scene basically solidified the franchise obsession with being g1 accurate above all else.

I'm not a "genwunner" type of dude, but I think for the live-action part of the franchise, it's fine. I mean after 5 films with Bayformers' controversial design choices (especially after TLK), having Bumblebee cater to G1 fans isn't the worst thing ever to me as someone who's was more nostalgic towards stuff like those first 3 films, Animated, and Prime.

I don't think that's necessarily the scenes fault, I mean for the people who do love those G1 iconic designs I'm sure it was awesome to see them again especially after a lot of hit and miss designs with the Bayformers, I mean just because something is different doesn't make it good, Geewunners are the ones we should be mad at, im not opposed to new designs but I want there to be some type of synergy through the designs so that I can identify the character with the design. Completely different designs only sometimes work anyway (namely Bay verse Bee and Animated Prowl)

@@No-ny3co Disagree with Bayverse Bee, but pretty much everything else I agree with.

What is wrong with people wanting that? Why is Hollywood so opposed to that.

Yeah, that does make sense. To add to that, I think the point wasn't just, "Oh, Bumblebee doesn't trust those meatsacks called humans." He's acting out against the group that attacked and kidnapped him, and are the same people who are hurting Charlie, his one and only friend on Earth. However, Charlie leads him back to his senses because he shouldn't mindlessly destroy the military out of vengeance because while their methods weren't entirely ethical, they're not soulless monsters either and that there's bigger problems to worry about.

@@kingbash6466 i agree.

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You’re not a real transformer fan

No, it did do the movie justice. You just wanna find a reason to bitch

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I mean, I don't want to judge the effects outright, but considering when you compare it to Bumblebee's first trailer, which still looks good to this day, I'm a little concerned for the quality control of ROTB. Hoping the second trailer proves me wrong though.

@@kingbash6466 I'm hoping too

Same, I would've forgotten the movie if it didn't have this scene.

what happens if i say i like cyberverse?

Honestly the last season of cyberverse was pretty good

@@Squishyk9 You mean when the writers whittled the cast down and pretended they’d be more character driven, then never bothered and basically undid it by the end of the Quintesson arc?