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I like how their error messages are still insinuating that there may be a problem with YOUR connection and not their servers. No accountability!

“Learned the skips”… me with zero clears “what skips” 😅 Got my clear boys. Never doing that again lol… they’re going to make a legend or GM version for a catalyst or some shit I just know it.

the only skip i learned was to skip this exotic, further lowering the desire to play this game.

A KZfaqr complaining wishing there were glitches in the game when 15 hours is 1 days worth of gaming for you... 15 hours for me is 2 weeks of gaming

1. The exotic class items are tied to prismatic. They don’t work with any other element. That just sucks for a start. 2. The drop rate is less than 2 % in overthrow. I’m just ignoring them. I only play as Titan anyway, and according to ALL the KZfaqrs , I suck. 😂

Once again, Bungo proves, If the loot grind is fun, they think its a bug that needs to be fixed. They think fun is a glitch.

They could’ve made iron banner begin for these next two weeks of no story? Who the fuck controls the activity timeline at bungie?

They always leave bugs in long enough that hardcore ppl farm it then patch it before normal players use it which just separates the player base even more 😂

This whole season is designed to force you to waste inordinate amounts of time grinding. Anyone who expected the double exotic glitch to stay should get a reality check.

Hopefully Sony will address the waste of resources when they take over bungee creates these items and then actively pushes people away from them. The class item mission itself. I bet at least 50 to 60% of the community never even do the mission waste of resources the catalyst for the exotic sword I bet 70% of the community never does that mission waste of resources.

So basically... Bug exists, Bug gets abused, Devs do their job and fix bugs, Players get angry that they have to play properly... Huh...

There are 64 combos per character! Locking it behind a two player non matchmade activity was bad enough but then they expect solo players to spend hours farming patrol zones for a CHANCE at one every hour or so?! Why is it so easy to get ergo sum rolls?? Add class items to pathfinder or or completing overthrow level three like ergo sum. This is ridiculous at this point.

Dual destiny should just be a matchmade strike

If us solos are good with not even getting to touch the exotic than I’m sure you, whatever yall hardcore players are called, can deal with only getting one drop 😂

I have absolutely no way to earn the exotic class item. I have no friends and absolutely horrible social anxiety. It sucks

3 weeks of dead space is not something I need to worry about being bad at the game and not having done dual destiny looked at the raid or any end game activities lol.

I'd be way more okay with the class exotic if we had dupe protection. but I'm just a fan of dupe protection altogether for a game like destiny.

Try being a solo player I was only able to run the mission once I've had to farm chest for every other drop but I do recall most the community saying to just to grow up and run it, etc but now that the mission only gets one drop as designed now its bad what a bunch of hypocrites

Reason Bungie does anything to stop quote "Glitches" is cause they use us for the tests and more when it comes to the drops otherwise they would've known this happens. Along with that is they need player retention so they can say "Hey look we had so many people play our game it's so great we are able to get more money." So anytime this happens it never surprises me and why once you do the mission just farm pale heart to get quests/bounties/Pathfinder or weapon rolls you wanted done, makes it all better.

It’s wild how glitches are often the thing that so many fans enjoy the most about Destiny, when there’s no new campaign at least lol. Ergo Sum itself is absolutely a result of, “The Craftening.” Next one that comes to mind is, “Laser Tag” Crucible when Prometheus Lens dropped LOL. And the granddaddy of them all: 9-Man / 12-Man Escalation Protocol and Raids! Of course, that glitch is the reason Excision exists. Lol 4 of the best features of The Final Shape so far center around glitches 😂… Ergo Sum, Excision, Double Drops Dual Destiny, and the 40% Arc Grenade which just got nerfed. There’s another, “unexpected interaction” that was recently fixed that people were loving too, I can’t remember what it was. Something on Hunters, I think. 😂😅

These company worry about every little thing, but one major problem is a server they need to fix that first before they go. Next step. It’s unplayable most of the time.

i wonder if people would be up in arms about this dual destiny fix, if the bug was never in the game to begin with and you always got one class item from the activity... i get that class item spawn rates in the pale heart should probably be increased to compensate for this change but the double class item was never supposed to be in the game anyways and EVERYONE knew it... and it takes nothing away from how good the mission is before even reaching the class items

They did the same thing with menagerie seasons ago. Bungie patches glitches and shortcuts super fast. They still haven't fixed their server issues.

They could just have Xur sell a set class item each week. It might take a while to find the roll you want but eventually you will

To be fair though, the mission isn't intended to do that. Especially when EVERY chest in the destination has a chance at giving you another drop AND it can come from engrams...just sayin

“ why are we doing this? “ , indeed….back to erdtree.

Here's the thing, Dual Destiny wasn't even the best way to farm for drops with the double loot. The mission is still fun and anyone that wants to enjoy fun activities can still play and enjoy it. There has been way too much drama about all this already and it really isn't that big of a deal. I'm honestly more annoyed that no one can pronounce Ergo Sum correctly.

lol everyone’s so upset, I’m sitting here like “I don’t even have it” 😂

Majority of you streamers are ignoring the anger of solo players regarding the class item and there not being a way to get it solo, when Bungie only listens to you. How is the outrage over the fix to the double class item exploit any different than the solo player outrage? Oh, because it affects YOU now. You guys love the mission so much, play it that much more to get your rolls. You insist on wearing the fact that you can play with someone else to help carry you through the game as a badge of honor to shove in solo players' faces when they have problems with the game. Enjoy playing the mission twice as much. I have NO sympathy for you. Then again, like I said, Bungie only listens to streamers and content creators. You'll probably be given some way of getting more drops now because you are crying about it.

I haven’t even gotten the class item for the first time yet cause I honestly don’t feel like having to talk to a random guy just to get it

I cant even find someone to even do dual destiny for the first time with

After paying 50 bucks for a dlc, some cheese or bug could be overlooked

Sucks about iron banner cause it's pointless and stupid... Would rather have trials and get rid of IB

All I’m saying is if they want to patch the double class item, they need to make it able to focus them cheap at raouls

"Bungie just ruined one of the best activities in Destiny 2...." - Of course they did Rick!

First of all; no class item exotic should ever have been locked behind any type of multiplayer wall when most of the player base id known to be solo players. Secondly, if you are using skips then you are not even playing it the way it is intended but you are upset that they stopped your cheating the system and getting double items.... Just stop whining! Just to be clear, I am a solo player with ASD, hence the reason for being a solo player. To complain about them cutting off your double loot is just ridiculously immature.

Any extremely small, minute, no matter how insignificant anything is that benefits the players, gets squashed immediately. Game breaking bugs, issues that make it extremely hard for players, left untouched forever. Almost seems like a pattern. Hmm.

You also have to remember that there are people like me that can only play for an hour or so every other day because of home stuff. So this is more than enough content for me.

I believe they should let us focus the class item. When you think about it. players who have been playing for a while have a lot of exotic engrams so why not spend them on the exotic class item.

I'm a solo player so I don't get this chance eaither way...why sook?

I mean, dual destiny is not fun for almost everyone else. Timed shit aint fun. It's just not. You're fired up and upset over not being able to exploit a bug. Toxic behavior dawg.

My girl was like” he’s pressed about that” lol 😂

Bro really explained the exotic mission bug then ranted about how when the bug was removed that we were being punished like lol what is that logic. We were never supposed to be able to get 2 per mission like lmao

no dupe protection is bs just proof that bungie doesn't respect their players

It be nice if they added the exotic class items to Pathfinder rewards like Ergo Sum. The amount of Ergo Sums I have is ridiculous, and it be nice to see an exotic class item as a potential reward from them.

Yea hate to say it but it’s going to probably be better now for duel destiny. I’ve helped a good few people how to do the quest and some of the stories I hear where people don’t have friends or they have a disability and so most people would ignore them and not help them. Plus you had 2 weeks to do it. The only people that are really complaining are those who spends hours a day or [ cough cough] stream or upload a video as. Your job. Hmmmmm. Love how destiny went from a looter shooter to now what ever it is. At this point bungie should just get rid of the power score as most of yous complain about everything on the game.

i still don’t have any exotic class items

Running the mission if you have a good partner is still faster than running around opening chests

Bungie execs: Wait, he could have gotten it in fifteen hours? Uh oh, we told the shareholders twenty minimum. We better fix this…

Aww, looks like the shit forced duo activity can no longer be cheesed. Boohoo.

What Bungie needs to do is attach a challenge into the mission, like kill all the enemies and get two drops

I don't even get to do group required activities anymore. Would be nice. Meaning I won't get the hunter exotic

After you do the quest and get your 1st one, just farm chest running the pale heart. I do like 30-45 minutes and get one or two a day.

The mission sucked to begin with

I didn’t really like the mission. Personally I like jumping puzzles and add clearing, but don’t really care for Raid/Dungeon type mechanics (in a mission). I really think Missions should be solo-able.

Personally, not having the double exotic glitch just means that either you have it be up to grinding a mission for one or hoping RNG is decent to even get one. For Dual Destiny, personally it takes me around 35-50 minutes for a run with my brother while grinding the Landing chest route gives atleast one Exotic per Overthrow Level but occasionally chests won't spawn in areas or I wouldn't get one until I'm nearly done with Overthrow Level 2 with the likely singular high-level target kill on the way. Sure, Dual Destiny may not be as good for getting the class item as it was but it is definetly the best method for people with terrible RNG for getting it from chests (for example, someone ran the route a hundred or so times and never got a single Exotic class item). Dual Destiny can be more efficient and reliable for getting the exotic class items within an average amount of time the mission would take for you over getting it completely randomly out of random Chests in the Pale Heart (High Value, Overthrow, Corrupted mini-game chests, and randomly spawning). For Dual Destiny, you just need communication, time, and memory to do the mission over and over again in a decent amount of time. For the Pale Heart, it can be done solo or matchmade for casual Overthrow, or farmed with a route but heavily requires time to farm the route and decent RNG. Both have their pros and cons but both are still somewhat reliable in different ways. Just my view on it personally but likely not shared as I never used the glitch and very likely have a different perspective than such person who was able to use the glitch.

I’m on my first break since season of the Deep and I’m not regretting that decision in this moment 😂

lol this is the problem with the community. We have a child like understanding of everything. They know exactly how long the activity will take and they added a specific number of exotic perks (8 each slot). So using the power of math they designed it that way, to have a specific amount of time most players would have to grind in order to get the best loot. Maybe they started with more perks or fewer and maybe the activity was shorter or longer... they landed on this design on purpose. The exploit, obviously, broke that and cut the total activity time investment in half for most players... Then we'd complain about content droughts. lol we are so dumb.

It’s funny how Destiny streamers are barely talking about how solos can’t get the item, and instead are talking about the hotfix. Thanks for the help.

side note anyone else wished they buffed unbreakable? like sure its fun having the ballistic shield playstyle but having a 3 minute cooldown is frustrating and not fun, not to mention the hitbox is wonky and you can get headshotted through the shield in PVP

how i would have done dual destiny is to have 2 versions of it , a normal mode without the timer and death hinders progress if there is any , 2nd mode lets call it expert has everything that the mission has but has double loot at the end , it might go some way appeasing every one .

Clickbait Khakis!

LOL Bungie HATES IT when we get the weapons and armor WE WANT!!!! game is broken, aspects fragments mods perks not working OH WELL that can WAIT till WHENEVER, boss tosses McGuffins off the map so you can't complete their Grindy TRASH quest oh KEEP TRYING that can WAIT!!! WE get a TINY BIT too much loot KILL IT WITH FIRE INSTANTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They can't SLEEP AT NIGHT if thy know their RNG isn't PISSING IN OUR EYES

You can get the class exotic item through overthrow public events, and if you’re doing story missions they have a chance of dropping. I usually get the exotic after 1-2 overthrow’s. If l am lucky I get it from 1 overthrow. Also going up a phase in the overthrow, all of the chests respawn. So you can hit 4-5 chest each phase, including after the boss. It is a lot of grinding, but after an hour I get about 2-4 class exotic items. I am just still trying to get the roll I want but I haven’t been lucky lol

Hate to be one of those guys- but why are you ranting about them patching a farming glitch? ^^" Kind've gives more a reason to do it because if you get it on one of the doubles then you just drop it fully- Like, the only reason to do it is to get your roll and done-

If you enjoy the activity, and it still drops the item in about the same amount of time as the casual farm, why wouldn't you play it instead? Also, I'd be careful saying things like "What are we even doing here?!" when talking about video game loot farming for 7-15 hours.

To skip a massive rant go to 3.48..

I love how Bungie will fix glitches before they solidify their in-game connection and content and even attempt to fix other major ongoing issues within the game.

When has bungie ever let a fun/efficient glitch rock? There’s no point in doing dual destiny after getting it done on all 3 characters as it is. Just farm chests in the landing. Ur almost guaranteed 1-2 by the time you reach the boss of the overthrow unless ur RNG just flat out hates you. The only thing I’m actually annoyed with is the old raids being -5 on normal.

"It would have taken me 15 hours to get the roll I wanted" -- Exactly. That is exactly the point. People don't want to listen to me when I say this, but Bungie's whole schtick is boosting your play time to as high a number as possible WITHOUT giving you what you are trying to get. And the inevitable response I get is, "Why would Bungie care about playtime? Shut up you're stupid". And those folks are simply not paying attention. When they fixed this cheese, THEY KNEW they were doubling the time it would take people to get the roll they want. Obviously the most basic reasoning applies: they extended your playtime because they want to. Every decision Bungie makes is designed to get you to play longer. I work in the software industry, I can't comment on their *specific* reasons but I CAN say they would not make that decision without data indicating that increased playtime is beneficial to Bungie. More than likely, for their specific reasons, more hours played = more $$ spent in Eververse, as this is usually the correlation you see in most games (it's due to the sunk cost fallacy - you've committed to the game, so you spend more money on it to avoid "losing" your investment.). Every bug they quickly fix, every cheese they immediately address, will be because leaving it in the game reduces your playtime (so for Crucible for example, they'd note increased quitting or reduced player base outside of norm). Note the ones they leave sitting around for years - no effect on playtime (like the Lake of Shadows boss cheese).

How about Pvp KZfaqrs ruined for everyone

So removed a glitch and people got mad. F that mission on repeat

I wouldn't mind the double loot bug getting fixed if there was some more control over getting the roll you want. Having 64 different combinations with no source of roll/dupe protection makes getting what you actually want even harder. It would be nice if they let you do what Warhammer 40K: Darktide does where you can consume a weapon to earn a blessing/trait to be able to apply to that said trait to another weapon of the same type. this helps protect you from getting a gun with a really good trait but bad stats since you can instead place the trait you want on a gun with the stats you want. Being able to consume a single spirit for a class item and then letting you craft them with only the spirits you've unlocked would help with some bad RNG since you would only have to work with a 1/8 chance for the single trait you want.

Couldn’t agree more. Massive L on Bungie’s part. The lack of duplicate protection for the class items is the biggest problem in my humble opinion.

I have no sympathy. I solo play so I’ll never get it.

I wouldn't be really usps if they actually did a noticeable buff in drop rates from chests. They seem to fix everything that benefits us

I hate that I still randomly get invisible guardians or my own guardian and weapon goes invisible. I also wish they would allow us to chose to load into a player filled pale heart or a solo pale heart and not just have a giant world feel so empty if none of your friends are on

Imagine getting upset about a developer fixing a bug in their game……..

Angry khakis

Best part about this is bein able to out down the controller and move away from this game now

I understand the frustration. And i call you a crybaby for not liking something in a game . My onky issue is this just proves my point that Bungie made this mission for spectacle first and ease of use for farming secondary. Ive done this mission 10+ times and its not fun on repeat playthroughs. I have my routes and understanding down but thats not alwasy the case with randoms. It can take 20 mins, or we could be almost out of time. The fact that all the content creators are mad about the double class item glitch shows that the mission gets repetitive on multiple runs. I think there needs to be a alternative to unlock the class items so anyone can get them. And there needs to be a better method for farming them. Make it to where you can unlock them through a vender as a 1 time thing. This way people can actually get them without it being locked behind this mission

@KackisHD you seem to be getting a bit too heated about this loot fix.

Glad to see they patched the bug, maybe as a solo player I'll be able to use fireteam finder to do the activity instead of constantly seeing "only hunter/titan/warlock optimised build KWTD farm"

If it's the duel Destiny you're talking about for the bug getting fixed, does not bother me because I have not been able to get into it yet.

At this price why not allow a regular exotic armor to be equiped in addition of the class item

what a shame as a solo player i still haven't even got one item so don't give a crap that you get more from a glitch

I see way too many people saying "It was intended to drop as one per mission" when im pretty sure the same type of people complained about the mission requiring 2 players and that exotic class items were locked behind that. I did the math and lets just say that the "rare chance" to get the item from chests is 1%, that would mean that its a 1/100 chests it'd drop right? You can farm 5 chests in the landing in about 5 - 10 minutes give or take (sometimes 3), so getting 100 would take up to an hour per 100 chests IF YOU DONT GET LUCKY (again, give or take). The mission gives one every 25 minutes or so, a whole 75% lower time to get if you DONT count having to go to LFG, but I can see why the mission would be heavily underutilized without the 2 exotic glitch, because of the amount of time it takes to get a partner, so now the most optimal method of gaining said item is chests. Now... Would i still recommend doing the mission once? Absolutely. Would i recommend farming the mission? No. Would i recommend farming chests? Depends on how bored you are, personally not for me. I myself am taking a break from D2 as i personally got all the fun i needed from the campaign and I do not intend to run around like an idiot for chests for a roll that has a 1/64 possible rolls to drop without dupe protection, either they remove dupe protection, or find a more effective method of farming thats both fun AND effective. Because while the mission can be fun, it aint effective. And grinding chests isnt fun but it is effective. **Please be civil when replying**

What’s new, that’s what bungie be doing… it’s nerf or nothing!

I just wish they would put the exotic class item in the eververse store I'm a solo with high social anxiety and I'll never be getting this exotic any other way

I still dont even have ONE new exotic class item. Great job bungie!

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Hilarious, so after weeks of people telling solo players to "get good" because they can't do the mission, now you're all crying beacuse they fixed a bug so you cant get 2 every time 😂😂😂 cry me a river

So when are they going to talk about the backlash of dual destiny forcing you to talk to another human?

Why does bungie keep nerfing all my main weapons into the ground. This is seriously pissing me off. First bows, now i cant use eager edge in PVP?

There are some of us like myself who still haven't found someone to run dual destiny to get the class item the first time.

If the mission is really that great shouldn’t matter what the loot is 🤷‍♂️

As a Solo player I could care less about doing this convoluted exotic mission with raid mechanics to force me to group with people. Bungie should remove the requirements of the mission and just let them drop in the Pale Heart for everyone.

An art contest on our favorite part of act 1? NOTHING HAPPPENED WHAT??

me who cant still unlock the mission, idk why