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@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 10 ай бұрын
I like how when Adams tries to interrogate Kirk about where he sent Noel, Kirk doesn't answer, and it never occurs to Adams that it's because he already conditioned Kirk to lie, cheat, steal, etc. for Noel so of course Adams can't get what he wants about her. Seems like no one notices that.
@indetigersscifireview4360
@indetigersscifireview4360 10 ай бұрын
Great point Doc Savage. You really are the man of bronze.
@charleshartley9597
@charleshartley9597 10 ай бұрын
Great catch! This episode is super creepy, the idea that your identity could be erased. But yeah, that is a fantastic observation!
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 10 ай бұрын
Never thought about it that way. Great observation.
@herbertkeithmiller
@herbertkeithmiller 10 ай бұрын
I've got to add to the course of great catch. I've seen this episode several times and it never occurred to me. That's why Kurt didn't give up Noel.
@rickjohnston2667
@rickjohnston2667 10 ай бұрын
I think that you're absolutely correct! That's exactly why Kirk didn't answer him.
@ChrisKrolak
@ChrisKrolak 10 ай бұрын
He's, probably, smiling because he realizes he is not alone and has friends and a crew to be with. He had a taste of that loneliness but escaped it. He's just thankful, I think. Or, he's thinking about the woman he had in his arms, recently.
@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 10 ай бұрын
Dr. Helen Noel would be hard to forget
@fredklein3829
@fredklein3829 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I think the final smile was there just to reassure the audience that Kirk is okay now.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
This isn't the first time I've been confused by his smile at the end of an episode where things ended not 100% happily, but from now on I think I'll try to view it as like you guys are saying... He's not alone and he knows things will be okay.
@erikmedeiros5572
@erikmedeiros5572 10 ай бұрын
@@bunnytailsREACTS The original Star Trek was made in a time when movies & TV shows had to have a happy ending. So regardless of what happens in the episode, by the final scene everything will be hunky-dory on the happiest starship in the galaxy
@michaelparks6120
@michaelparks6120 10 ай бұрын
@@bunnytailsREACTS he has his ship and his crew is safe....that is paramount to Captain Kirk.
@hawkmaster381
@hawkmaster381 10 ай бұрын
As a professional who loves his occupation, I understood why she seemed to side with Dr. Adams at first. You have a certain pride in your profession and I’m sure she felt this when around laymen.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
Well said!
@CFWhitman
@CFWhitman 10 ай бұрын
Also, the doctor involved had a great reputation and was looked up to in a professional way by Dr. Noel. It can be hard to find out that your professional heroes aren't who you thought they were. This would especially be true regarding professional ethics.
@torontolistener5507
@torontolistener5507 10 ай бұрын
Kirk smiles because he realizes both Spock and McCoy were concerned for his emotional health. The smile was reassurance to his friends and crew that he was beginning to shrug it off, and that all was well. Only Kirk could recover so quickly! ;^)
@edquinn5773
@edquinn5773 10 ай бұрын
I think that at the end of every mission Kirk is glad him and his bridge crew are safe, and he's home on his ship. His one true love
@CaesiusX
@CaesiusX 10 ай бұрын
That was my take as well. But I think you explained it better.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
Thanks guys for helping me understand!
@sarahfullerton6894
@sarahfullerton6894 10 ай бұрын
Please look that last scene again, for a second more. After Kirk smiles to reassure Spock and Bones, you see that smile drop, and Kirk looks somber. He's not over the experience, but he wants to reassure his friends, because he realizes that he isn't really alone, with his best two buddies who care so much for him. But he isn't over it. Not yet.
@samuraiwarriorsunite
@samuraiwarriorsunite 10 ай бұрын
And of course, we have to get that million-dollar-smile in the frame, lol
@michaelm6948
@michaelm6948 10 ай бұрын
Helen the hottie came through in the end. On the brain washing theme, it was dealt with extensively and brillaintly, in the classic film from the early 1960s, The Manchurian Candidate.
@starmnsixty1209
@starmnsixty1209 10 ай бұрын
👍
@michaelparks6120
@michaelparks6120 10 ай бұрын
You can't fool captain kirk!
@charles2241
@charles2241 9 ай бұрын
@@michaelparks6120 You may not be able to fool him, but you can certainly make a fool out of him (see "Plato's Stepchildren").
@juangallegos1048
@juangallegos1048 2 ай бұрын
Interesting, that James Gregory (Dr. Adams) was in the film The Manchurian Candidate
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
Van Gelder seemingly recovered quickly. Presumably the mind meld helped.
@jasontoddman7265
@jasontoddman7265 6 ай бұрын
Vulcans trained to be doctors and using mind melds may be one reason why the 23rd century seems to be a much happier time than the 21st, even though the Vulcans themselves shun emotions. Perhaps as doctors they understand how dependent humans are on them much better than a scientific-but-still-not-medically-trained man like Spock would. Just a thought anyway.
@Primitarian
@Primitarian 4 ай бұрын
And if the mind meld works so well, why bother with a neural neutralizer?
@jasontoddman7265
@jasontoddman7265 4 ай бұрын
@@Primitarian Maybe they had no Vulcans there? Human prejudice against techniques only Vulcans can use? Why do we use bomb detector devices today when we have dogs that can do a better job? Maybe same mentality there, as in Tech has all the answers. Or we can blame bad writing. But I like one of the other ideas better because it's in-universe.
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 10 ай бұрын
Another clue the script writer gives us is when we meet Lethe. Lethe is one of the 5 rivers in the underworld ruled by Hades. Anyone who drinks its water forgets their former life. Lethe is also, in Greek mythology, the name of a daughter of Eris. This daughter is said to be the personification of oblivion.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
Ohh very cool!
@gregsager2062
@gregsager2062 10 ай бұрын
@@bunnytailsREACTS It's partly the source of our word "lethal".
@jasontoddman7265
@jasontoddman7265 6 ай бұрын
She is also the Goddess of Discord, which kind of makes sense in combination with that other fact.
@donfoley6946
@donfoley6946 10 ай бұрын
The "Mind Meld" by Spock was first used here, just like the neck pinch was on "The Enemy Within". They both were used more as the series progressed. Leonard Nimoy actually came up with the idea for the neck pinch when it was originally written that he was supposed to just punch or hit a guy with a gun. He felt that Vulcans were more refined and had better methods than humans did. So he and Shatner rehearsed it for Gene, and the rest is history!
@PenneySounds
@PenneySounds 10 ай бұрын
There's some speculation that both techniques relate to Vulcans' touch-telepathy
@jasontoddman7265
@jasontoddman7265 6 ай бұрын
@@PenneySounds I have always felt that to be true myself, though Data's one-time use of the technique in the TNG episode Reunification might be seen as a counter-argument to that idea.
@PenneySounds
@PenneySounds 6 ай бұрын
@@jasontoddman7265 A few other non-Vulcans have used it as well. But even if it can be performed by someone without touch telepathy, it may be that only someone with touch telepathy could have developed the technique.
@jasontoddman7265
@jasontoddman7265 6 ай бұрын
@@PenneySounds Interesting thought. That's quite possible.
@gumbomudderx7503
@gumbomudderx7503 10 ай бұрын
I think Kirk is smiling because after being in that room he’s back with his closest friends and on his ship. So any loneliness is gone. That’s my take on it anyway.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
Makes sense to me :)
@jasontoddman7265
@jasontoddman7265 6 ай бұрын
I think that is perfectly logical.
@johnwatson3948
@johnwatson3948 10 ай бұрын
Great again to see this with uncut scenes. “Dagger of the Mind” is a Shakespeare reference also used to title a Columbo episode. The love interest Helen was originally intended to be Yeoman Janice Rand, but Grace Lee Whitney had recently left the show. Helen was played by Marianna Hill, who you would never guess was later the nasty blonde in Eastwood’s “High Plains Drifter”.
@starexplorers1202
@starexplorers1202 10 ай бұрын
Yes. I remember that.
@PenneySounds
@PenneySounds 10 ай бұрын
There'll be a lot more Shakespeare coming up in the show too. Trek has always shown a fondness for Shakespeare.
@maxducoudray
@maxducoudray 10 ай бұрын
I’m loving the more frequent Star Trek uploads!
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
Good! Cause I've been working my little bunny butt off :P
@maxducoudray
@maxducoudray 10 ай бұрын
@@bunnytailsREACTS Appreciated!
@DayTrooperGW
@DayTrooperGW 10 ай бұрын
To me Dr. Adams is one of Trek's most chilling antagonists as he is basically distorting/destroying your mind - and without that you cease to exist (and kudos to actor James Gregory who portrays him 👍)
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 10 ай бұрын
The bras at the time of the series were conical shaped. As Playtex used to say in their commercials " lift and separate ". Google " vintage Playtex bras ".
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
Bra history. I think Jane Russell advertised for Playtex. (She wore her own in The Outlaw.)
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 10 ай бұрын
​@@steelers6titlesI think that was the look women of time were going for
@snootybaronet
@snootybaronet 10 ай бұрын
Your Star Trek reactions have been excellent! Kirk's ambivalent reaction at the end, where he admits that he can see death because of loneliness, and then seems somewhat dismissive and smiles. I think this is an example of Kirk's incredible single mindedness and willpower. He knows that any person could be crushed by loneliness, but he recognizes his unique position as a Star Fleet captain, and that he himself must overcome these personal demons to serve his crew and mission. I think it's a study in the character of command. He can't afford to succumb to these personal sufferings because of his command. He was able to overcome this diabolical machine because of this. You'll see further examples of this willpower, and some extent coldness, in other episodes, especially in perhaps the best episode of any Star Trek series-"The City on the Edge of Forever".
@TroyConvers5000
@TroyConvers5000 7 ай бұрын
He always knew he would die alone.
@Dave3Dguy
@Dave3Dguy 10 ай бұрын
Yes, in answer to your question, Kirk smiles at the end to tell his friends that he'll be alright and not to worry. A reassuring smile for his visibly concerned friends. It must be said that Shatner's acting in this one, particularly when he's in the chair is powerful. He really sells the danger of what is essentially a cheap ceiling light prop. As did Morgan Woodward (Dr. Van Gelder) who received an Emmy nomination for his work in this episode. He has said that it took him 4 days to recover physically and emotionally from this role.
@Alexandertg1955
@Alexandertg1955 10 ай бұрын
The smile at the end. He smiles for himself and us. He is showing that he survived.
@charlesstuart8009
@charlesstuart8009 6 ай бұрын
He's smiling because he's thinking of his TV & the Christmas party!
@ToneHobart
@ToneHobart 9 ай бұрын
as the captain he has a responsibility to the crew, he can't allow himself to appear vulnerable. he smiled to let everyone know, he is going to be OK.
@TheSimCaptain
@TheSimCaptain 3 ай бұрын
That smile was to show Spock that he was up to the next challenge and to reassure him that he was ok. But you can see him reflecting on what happened behind his smile.
@vinceburgess9012
@vinceburgess9012 9 ай бұрын
“I never forget a boob!” Your sense of humor shines in your reactions. And you bring out some interesting theories. Thanks
@williamblakehall5566
@williamblakehall5566 10 ай бұрын
"HEH-LLO!" Yeah, that was my reaction too way back when. (I even had to replay your own reaction just now.) Even in far more demure clothing, the lovely actress Marianna Hill was always enchanting, all the way up to her appearance in The Godfather Part II. Wild, isn't it, that her character's last name is Noel and that she and Kirk hooked up at a Christmas party. This is the episode that introduced the Vulcan mind meld, which would become handy later. Yeah, there is pretty much zero PTSD in the Trek universe -- they fight a lot, they hurt a lot, they lose a lot, and yet one minute later they're all chipper and raring to go. It's not just a Trek thing, though, so many shows are like that. I don't think I'm spoiling too much when I say that this show sometimes tears down a great hero -- we saw that with Dr. Korby in What Are Little Girls Made Of -- and we will see that again. On the subject of mind control, one of my favorite movies is The Manchurian Candidate (the 1962 original), about a brainwashed assassin, and I would be fascinated by your reaction someday. I'm afraid the next few episodes are rather Kirk-centered, but Spock will prove himself again pretty soon. (Even as a straight hetero male, I think I "get" the Spock appeal. I always wanted his voice, what a voice.) Thanks, Bun.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much :)
@chuckbenedict7235
@chuckbenedict7235 10 ай бұрын
Never connected the Noel-Christmas hook. Nice.
@CJRamos-jv3pb
@CJRamos-jv3pb 10 ай бұрын
@@bunnytailsREACTS, "HEH-LLO!" - I LOL'd 😆
@laurogarza4953
@laurogarza4953 10 ай бұрын
In this episeode, we see both Roddenberry's visuon for the future of psychology and psychiatry and the reflection of the horrors of psychiatryat that time. In the production of TNG, a psychologist was added to the bridge crew, because Roddenberry predicted that mental health would, in the future, be as important as any other kind of healthcare. The second pilot, "Where No Man Has Gone Before," featured a psychiatrist, Danner, who studied crew reaction to stressful environments. Kirk, as seen in this episode and another, is fascinated with psychology and has great respect for the pioneers in the field. This is the first of two episodes that take place in a penal colony fir the mentally insane. On the other hand, there was, at the time of these productions, a medical doctor, Walter Jackson Freeman II, who became obsessed with a horrendous and dubious medical procedure: transorbital lobotomy. With no evidence of successful treatment for the worst psychiatric disorders, he went about the country teaching these horrible practices and, literally, deeply damaging the brains of patients, many against their will. I believe this episode was influenced by these features of Roddenberry's own hope for the future deeply colored by the horrors of that present time. Kirk smiled at the end to reveal he was well and to alleviate the concerns of his First officer and Chief Medical Officer.
@kevinlewallen4778
@kevinlewallen4778 10 ай бұрын
Hey, Bun, I'm enjoying coming along on your exploration of Star Trek. The Van Gelder (Morgan Woodward) acting was impressive, I feel. Then Shatner, not to be outdone, got in his own insane laugh at 18:00. Woodward appeared in a later episode in a different role, and IMDb tells me he also guest starred on Shatner's later series, TJ Hooker.
@donfoley6946
@donfoley6946 10 ай бұрын
Morgan played Captain Ron Tracy in "The Omega Glory" in season 3!
@kevinlewallen4778
@kevinlewallen4778 10 ай бұрын
@@donfoley6946 Yep, and if I remember correctly, didn't he kick Kirk's ass in a fight?
@jaymedina3142
@jaymedina3142 10 ай бұрын
Morgan Woodwards portrayal of Van Gelder in this episode was so convincing, I didn't like seeing him in other roles as it reminded me of how UNSTABLE he seemed. So GREAT actor indeed! He was in a lot of westerns usually as the "bad" guy. But apparently in real life, he was a very nice, likeable person.
@charles2241
@charles2241 9 ай бұрын
It's stiff competition from Sulu though, because you'll perhaps recall an earlier Bunny-reviewed episode where Sulu gets that injection from the itching disease, screams bloody murder, then says as he comes out of his spell "I was on the bridge (as though the stress of the bridge drove him insane)". It's so glorious to see Kirk sweat🤣. Don't forget Dr Van Gelder in this episode either, as his grunts, etc, were so over-the-top, it was almost an Oscar-winning performance. Hmm, I wonder what sort of earth-shattering screams Spock may had let out at some time?
@user-po3ev7is5w
@user-po3ev7is5w 9 ай бұрын
He's smiling because he won and lived to see another day
@chienforcer
@chienforcer 2 ай бұрын
He smiled because he triumphed over it and it didn't beat him. He won.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
Marianna Hill later appeared in High Plains Drifter opposite Clint Eastwood.
@westlock
@westlock 10 ай бұрын
She was also a cousin of General Norman Schwarzkopf.
@erikmedeiros5572
@erikmedeiros5572 10 ай бұрын
She also starred in the cult horror film "Messiah of Evil"
@razz5558
@razz5558 5 ай бұрын
This is what I imagine being trapped in Google headquarters would be like.
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 10 ай бұрын
Spock describes the 'mind-meld' as 'part of our private lives'. I think it's too personal to use in that way, yet he does. - and he gets Van Gelder's POV exactly. Perhaps it's only meant to be used between lovers or perhaps teacher-pupil. A way of bridging the gaps between personalities to avoid any chance of misunderstanding, or to test to destruction before making a major commitment. This wider experience than most Vulcans may be why Spock is later known Federation-wide for declaring that: 'Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not it's end'.
@erikmedeiros5572
@erikmedeiros5572 10 ай бұрын
In this episode, the first to feature the Vulcan mind meld, Spock is very reluctant to use the technique, but in later episodes Spock will mind meld with anyone and anything as easily as starting a conversation with a stranger.
@Caseytify
@Caseytify 10 ай бұрын
@@erikmedeiros5572 Yes, at first the mind meld was supposed to be a very intimate form of contact; one that Vulcans generally avoided. Alas, lazy scriptwriters glommed on to it as a crutch for bad writing.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
Woodward is excellent at getting across the actual physical pain of Van Gelder's damaged mind.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
Episode was supposed to have featured Grace Lee Whitney as Rand in the Helen Noel role, but she had been terminated from the series, and the episode was rewritten for a guest star.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
I will miss her :(
@starexplorers1202
@starexplorers1202 10 ай бұрын
There's lots of drama in the background that never gets talked about. I didn't know that one.
@erikmedeiros5572
@erikmedeiros5572 10 ай бұрын
@@bunnytailsREACTS You will get to see Yeoman Rand one more time in the next episode "Miri". Grace Lee Whitney gets to go out with her strongest performance in the series.
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 9 ай бұрын
That was certainly one of the the poorer decisions Roddenberry made. Whitney deserved better than to pay for writers that couldn't think. She ckaim was the piriducers wanted to leave Kirk "free to play the field", like Rand was his wife or something and she had to be removed. Fact is I recall Kirk only referencing romance with her and that was as a regret at not having been with her.
@SciTrekMan
@SciTrekMan Ай бұрын
@@MGower4465 It wasn’t Rodenberry’s decision to fire her. It was one of the Studio executives, because Grace Lee Whitney refused to go “mattress surfing” with him. She spoke about it often and Leonard Nimoy confirmed it.
@awall1701
@awall1701 10 ай бұрын
I am loving your Star Trek reactions and the questions that you are asking about the episodes.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad!
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
Morgan Woodward was a scary actor, with his bulging blue eyes. He was Boss Godfrey in Cool Hand Luke.
@Madbandit77
@Madbandit77 10 ай бұрын
He also played bad guys in "A Small Town In Texas" and "Which Way Is Up?"
@4CardsMan
@4CardsMan 4 ай бұрын
James Gregory in a typical villain role
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
Adams' patient is Lethe; she has had her memory wiped. Lethe (Greek: “Oblivion”): in Greek mythology, Lethe was the daughter of Eris (Strife) and the personification of oblivion. Lethe is also the name of a river or plain in the infernal regions.
@maxducoudray
@maxducoudray 10 ай бұрын
And Helen Noel had a moment with Kirk at a Christmas (Noel) party. Naming on the nose in this episode.
@phr3dmcc0y
@phr3dmcc0y 10 ай бұрын
@@maxducoudray ive watched this show for 50 years and never put that together. LOL!
@buffstraw2969
@buffstraw2969 10 ай бұрын
Yes. The river of Lethe is the waters of forgetfulness, where the shades (or souls) of the dead have their memories of life erased, as they proceed into the afterlife.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 10 ай бұрын
@@buffstraw2969 Right.
@ssjtapion
@ssjtapion 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like you and Husbando are gonna have to do your own Vulcan mind meld session! 😂
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
😉
@gbsailing9436
@gbsailing9436 10 ай бұрын
Book a room!
@SciTrekMan
@SciTrekMan Ай бұрын
I hear the ship’s arboretum is nice this time of year!!
@PhysicalMediaPreventsWea-bx1zm
@PhysicalMediaPreventsWea-bx1zm 3 күн бұрын
Was that a sneaky way to try and find out if Bunny is married? 😂
@massakastuono7870
@massakastuono7870 10 ай бұрын
could that be a smile of self confidence when he is making a statement?.. I have to tell you how fascinating your comments are.. I am always excited to see your perspective in your comments at the end of the reaction..you have this grasp of a search for something still unknown ..it has this honest, human comments .just fascinating ...I am big fan now...wishing huge success with your channel..❤
@james_t_kirk
@james_t_kirk 9 ай бұрын
*"Van Gelder" (Morgan Woodward) turns up in a second Star Trek episode and gets top billing. He also has a notable (albeit small) role in the Paul Newman movie, "Cool Hand Luke".*
@vytallicaq.6881
@vytallicaq.6881 9 ай бұрын
"The man with no eyes" Silent, but SO intimidating. ICONIC movie.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 9 ай бұрын
Boss Godfrey.
@alanh.7668
@alanh.7668 9 ай бұрын
Kirk's' smug, self satisfied (and sometimes inappropriately timed grins) ,are a big part of his greatness.👍👍
@spaceace1006
@spaceace1006 9 ай бұрын
The Crazy Guy in the box also played Capt. Ron Tracy in "The Omega Glory"
@portland-182
@portland-182 10 ай бұрын
Maybe Kirk's smiling to signal to Spock that he is fully recovered and not brooding about the room, and all's well that ends well. The Vulcan sharing of minds comes to be referred as the 'Vulcan Mind Meld'. You are not alone with your reaction to the intimacy of Spock, he became a fan favourite, particularly with female fans, very early in the series.
@brianmiller9382
@brianmiller9382 10 ай бұрын
A couple of comments here: the actor that played Dr. Adams, James Gregory, was a very good actor with a distinguished career. Because of the generational difference, Bunny, you probably don't know him, but that is unfortunate. He was outstanding in many roles. He had actually been in the very first Twilight Zone episode "Where is Everybody?", but he is best known for his role in the 70s comedy series "Barney Miller", where he was hilarious as the demented Inspector Luger. Grace Lee Whitney, who played Janice Rand, was dismissed in the first season for substance abuse issues, although she will appear again because the order episodes aired differed from the production order. Anyway, the decision was made at this time to transfer Kirk's "romantic" interests to various female guest stars, such as Dr. Helen Noel in this episode. As this new pattern emerges, you will see Kirk's famous "reputation" appear.
@tomstanziola1982
@tomstanziola1982 10 ай бұрын
James Gregory was also great as General Ursus in Beneath the Planet Of the Apes.
@enigmamz
@enigmamz 10 ай бұрын
And it's hard to say much was great about "Beneath". Individual stuff is about it.@@tomstanziola1982
@charles2241
@charles2241 9 ай бұрын
@@tomstanziola1982 Noooo, say it isn't so. That dude did everything.
@tomstanziola1982
@tomstanziola1982 9 ай бұрын
@@charles2241 I do believe he did do everything, my friend! 👍
@charles2241
@charles2241 9 ай бұрын
@@tomstanziola1982Without seeing the movies again, I can just picture the guy he played, as he had one of those high helmets on him. Kind of unbelievable, to see his face in all that makeup, hear his voice, and still not realize it was him. I think it had to be sort of a Gregory shock on my part, that I see him so often without anything having to do with a disguise of sorts, and my probably thinking he wouldn't stoop so low as to be an ape in a movie🤣, and yet, there he was and I couldn't see it. I think a lot of Roddy McDowell fans, if they picked up their first ape movie in the middle (therefore didn't see the credits) might've been fooled it wasn't him as well. He definitely had that Roddy voice, but him hunching over all the time, and all that jaw makeup, etc, he probably fooled a lot of people like that. They should've had a small like one second clip of Heston as a random ape somewhere, just to see how many would pick up on that (he would have to say something to make it fair).
@ArkansasPilgrim
@ArkansasPilgrim 6 ай бұрын
I believe this episode was written as an anti-shock treatment story. It does have a lot of intense storytelling. The only weakness I see, is that we are never told why Adams changed from a humanitarian to a mad scientist.
@doorofnight87
@doorofnight87 9 ай бұрын
Yay, another review! Another great review of a great episode (and famous for the introduction of the Vulcan Mind Meld). The reason for the smiling at the end is that it was typical in the 60's, even for dramas to end episodes on a happy or humorous note. It can be a little jarring with episodes like this.
@Bobby-ez9so
@Bobby-ez9so 8 ай бұрын
Hilarious reaction, bunnytailsREACTS! 🤣🤣 I loved your comment about Dr. Helen Noel and her anatomy. You made my Christmas, thank you. I'm looking forward to more of your reaction videos.
@ronaldgarrison8478
@ronaldgarrison8478 5 ай бұрын
Your desire to see continnuation of the Dr Gelder character is probably a really good example of why story arcs became popular in the Star Trek franchise, as well as other series. OTOH just speaking for myself, I don't know if I'm so crazy about them. They just allow for too many paths that just get more and more twisted up.
@jime6688
@jime6688 7 ай бұрын
I thought it was always telling that it was called the Tantalus Colony. The punishment story from the myth of Tantulus in which as punishment for killing his son and trying to feed him to the Gods, he’s placed in Tartarus forever thirsty and hungry with food and drink in easy reach, but unobtainable. Naming a mental facility after this wouldn’t inspire much confidence I wouldn’t think.
@scottbridge9391
@scottbridge9391 9 ай бұрын
Yes, this was a good episode. This is when we first learn about the Vulcan Mind Meld. Dr. Noel was a good female action heroine, something that was rare on TV shows back in the 1960s. The way she took care that one guy who forcefully grabbed her and threw her down on the ground was memorable and Bad-Ass. She also brought down the planetary force field, making it possible for Spock and his security team to beam down and shut down Dr. Adams' whole operation. Go Helen! Yes, Dr. Adams was quite the mad scientist and power mad doctor indeed. He created his own private dictatorship, mind control and all. I love how Dr. McCoy gets Kirk to take action when he says "As the ship's chief medical officer, I think there's something funny going on down there which requires me to enter in my medical log. That requires you to enter in YOUR log." Morgan Woodward previously was in Westerns where he played villain roles. You'll see him again in a Season 2 episode where he plays a villainous starship captain who threw away all of his morals and ethics, completely violated the Prime Directive on an unknown planet. He also played a villain in an episode of Bill Bixby's The Incredible Hulk TV series.
@NiallMor
@NiallMor 4 ай бұрын
“I never forget a boo . . . I never forget a ti . . . I never forget a face.” 😉😂
@kieronball8962
@kieronball8962 10 ай бұрын
Kirk never forgets a B... T... Face! :) Nice one BT.
@alanflor703
@alanflor703 10 ай бұрын
Had me laughing pretty hard! Not what I was expecting from a Star Trek reaction.
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
😁
@annbach3601
@annbach3601 9 ай бұрын
Good critical thoughts and questions about the episode. Your videos are always a good reason to dive into this old tv-times with star trek. Thank you very much.
@noneya3635
@noneya3635 10 ай бұрын
LOL, the Slim Shady nod was just the chuckle i needed today BT, hats off to ya!
@starexplorers1202
@starexplorers1202 10 ай бұрын
I'm so glad these Star Trek episodes are getting new life.
@jerryconner4270
@jerryconner4270 9 ай бұрын
Im 63 and born in 1960. I dont remember these star treks at age 3 or 5 but do remember the re runs that made it popular. Its enormous fun to rewatch these with you and see you're reactions. I probably remember these at age 8 and they were advanced state of the art fid television but in my young mind these were REAL. another world 🌎 and reality. way ahead of any other sci-fi of that period. Many of our mordern inventions, including the cell phone were the product of young people watching star trek and thinking...I could make that real.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 9 ай бұрын
It was rerun in the afternoons on local stations, after school. The last NBC first-run series time slot was Fridays at 10 p.m., if I'm correct, which was fatal to its young audience, in that pre-VCR era. A lot of kids were out of the house at that time.
@ice-iu3vv
@ice-iu3vv 10 ай бұрын
south park did a great parody of this trek episode, its called "roger ebert should lay off the fatty foods". if you watch it while this is fresh in your mind, youll get all the references.
@Qoltar
@Qoltar 9 ай бұрын
You likely already know this - the title of the episode - 'Dagger of the Mind' is from Shakespeare's "Hamlet"...- the Music Loving Klingon
@luislora9204
@luislora9204 4 ай бұрын
*** In "The Devil in the Dark " episode the Vulcan Mind Meld is used by Spock to solve the conflict of the "Horta " creature at the mining colony and later in Star Trek III" The search for Spock " is the key element in the continuation of " The Wrath of Khan " and Spock's resurrection .!!...***
@ralphsexton8531
@ralphsexton8531 10 ай бұрын
I believe Spock, using the Mind Meld, was able to help restore VanGelder's memory by breaking the conditioning and reestablishing the links. As such, he was largely himself again, albeit with some trauma. He was able to resume his life and career.
@jab9916
@jab9916 6 ай бұрын
I think when he looked at Spock and he's just letting him no he's all right. Spock seem to smile back
@nuno.picado
@nuno.picado 10 ай бұрын
This was the first episode of Star Trek I've ever watched. This was it, this is what hooked me up for life to these shows. Van Gelder was so intense I could not stop thinking of this show for a long while, having watched this as a child (9yo maybe).
@dpsamu2000
@dpsamu2000 8 ай бұрын
Kirk smiles because his purpose, and the whole crew too, for being explorers is to have experiences no matter how painful. To be so lonely you could die is such an experience.
@TroyConvers5000
@TroyConvers5000 7 ай бұрын
I wonder if this is what put the train of thought in Kirk's head in ST:V about dying alone.
@alanh.7668
@alanh.7668 9 ай бұрын
I can't believe it, but I don't remember seeing this episode before, a rare treat, thanks Bunny!
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 9 ай бұрын
You're welcome :)
@InterdimensionalCowlick
@InterdimensionalCowlick 9 ай бұрын
When reading Nimoy's book "I am Spock" he expresses how shocked he was that many women seemed to consider Spock quite sensual.
@thedoctor755
@thedoctor755 10 ай бұрын
Any time I watch this one, I keep wanting Dr Adams to start barking "Ya know, Barn, back in my day as a young cop on the force....." He played the annoying but lovable Inspector Luger on the old sitcom Barney Miller. One of the best-ever sitcoms IMO, ran from 1975-82, about a squad of detectives in the NYPD.
@fredklein3829
@fredklein3829 10 ай бұрын
This was the very first example of the Vulcan mind meld. I love it also and we will indeed see more. Dr. Helen Noel was well liked by men especially and she is one of many beautiful (in her case stupendously so) female guest stars.❤
@kevingeary3223
@kevingeary3223 5 ай бұрын
The South Park episode “Roger Elbert should lay off Fatty foods” is based on this episode. The Planet…Ariium. Episode.
@andrewfontana3136
@andrewfontana3136 10 ай бұрын
Mind melds are incredibly intimate, there are several amazing examples of them in the future, and not just of the original series.
@jedlogan392
@jedlogan392 10 ай бұрын
Really loved your comments and reactions Dagger of the Mind. Your jokes and references were all on point and had me laughing quite a bit. Thank you for more great content.
@raymondneal7423
@raymondneal7423 3 ай бұрын
Van Gelder aka Captain Tracy also. Always played dangerous characters
@peterradsliff527
@peterradsliff527 10 ай бұрын
Watch “The Manchurian Candidate” from the 1960s with Frank Sinatra. It is the ultimate mind control movie.
@matthew55793
@matthew55793 10 ай бұрын
Your earnest reaction to the vulcan mind meld is hilarious.
@TorgoLives
@TorgoLives 10 ай бұрын
Morgan Woodward was a very steady working character actor. He worked mostly on westerns through the years and was good at playing the bad guy heavy in shows and movies. He's in one more Star Trek episode called, "The Omega Glory" later in the series where you'll get to see more of him. Thanks for reacting to the series!
@DouglasGlenn-jn8qb
@DouglasGlenn-jn8qb 8 ай бұрын
The last thing I saw him in was an episode of the X-Files. His character was suffering from severe emphysema. I assumed it was because Mr, Woodward was as well. Hard to see him like that but good to see him one last time
@kartikprasad4359
@kartikprasad4359 4 ай бұрын
I remember him on the nighttime soap opera, “Dallas”.
@calgaryjimbo
@calgaryjimbo 9 ай бұрын
Great reaction, as always! Classic Trek never shied away from challenging subject matter and didn't always leave you with a tidy ending, although it was pretty much always a happy ending and a smile, regardless of what just transpired. Looking forward to the next one!
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@zmani4379
@zmani4379 10 ай бұрын
Nice reaction - watching it again now, IMO this is one of the best episodes so far, rich w intriguing elements - taps psychology ties w social control, and consider how the countercultural climate of the 60s would have seen this, w recent memories of WW2 fascism and 50s mass conformity - the famous Milgram experiment came out in 64 - in sci fi we have the dual poles of 1984 and Brave New World, control via stick vs carrot, respectively - also see Clockwork Orange and the sci fi inflected thriller Manchurian Candidate - - more broadly we have One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest and Girl, Interrupted - looking at the treatment process itself as a struggle w the idea of authority - IMO 1986 Singing Detective may be the greatest expression of this - another amazing work like this is Marat/Sade, also very stylized, one of the major theatrical works of the last half century, and a philosophical debate on the topic - pitting absolute authority against absolute freedom, again, with a mental hospital as the arena - it's a very rich topic - full of lots of compelling questions -
@jimrocks22
@jimrocks22 9 ай бұрын
Lol “univited guest!” probably a 1/4 to a 1/3 of the episodes feature univited guests. You mentioned Spock’s ability to mind meld a very important skill throughout the series. Its a testament to Nimoy’s acting we accept he can join minds. Like the show itself before viewing one might think how good can a show from the 60’s be? This one proves they can be pretty amazing.
@balli7836
@balli7836 7 ай бұрын
"Dagger of the mind"?! Very interesting. I only know most of the episodes from their german names. This episode in particular has a very special name: "Der Zentralnervensystemmanipulator" which translates into "The central nervous system manipulator".
@carybrown851
@carybrown851 10 ай бұрын
Oh, one more point... Kirk's smile at the end is his way of saying, without actually saying... "I'm ok... I'll be fine... don't worry about me." When I went in for cancer surgery a while back... I was terrified. Yet, to my wife, family, and friends, I put in a very "Kirk-like performance." It was kind of my job to do so. When you're the rock everyone else relies on for strength, you can't let yourself seem too vulnerable. Head of a family? Yep. Commander of a starship? It's like being the "parent" over 430 children. A line from "The Enemy Within" spoken by Spock spelled it out... When you're in command, you don't have the right to be vulnerable. This us why only one person out of a thousand is actually able to be in command, and to be effective in that role. It's a huge, heavy burden. Lots of people would love to be in charge... to get the perks and the power. But far fewer are willing to bear, or even capable of bearing, the RESPONSIBILITIES of command.
@Archer7b
@Archer7b 5 ай бұрын
I've seen these episodes many times and I really like your commentary. A lot of it matches my thinking. Like the funny stuff at the Xmas party. First thing I thought was they got a little loopy at that party and boinked at some point. Kirk probably snuck out and was gone by morning and she probably had a walk of shame at some point. I dig your top as well. Seems appropriate.
@Earthtime3978
@Earthtime3978 7 ай бұрын
You can understand loneliness . Thats important. This show often taps into that emotion in its storylines. You’ll definitely see more of the Vulcan mind meld.
@stevechilders2624
@stevechilders2624 7 ай бұрын
Those damn intruders! They’re sneaky!
@alau18
@alau18 10 ай бұрын
You truly bring out the best in these episodes…..your perceptions are fascinating!!! 😊
@russellyoung2900
@russellyoung2900 6 ай бұрын
Morgan Woodward will return to star trek later in the series as a ship captain that lost his crew due to a war that used chemicals to eliminate whole groups of people during a war on that planet.
@Fatty.D.McButterpants
@Fatty.D.McButterpants 10 ай бұрын
Something you said reminded me of my favorite ee cummings quote....."whenever you think or you believe, or you know, you're a lot of other people: but the moment you feel, you're nobody-but-yourself'.
@docsavage8640
@docsavage8640 10 ай бұрын
mr youse needn't be so spry concernin questions arty each has his tastes but as for i i likes a certain party gimme the he-man's solid bliss for youse ideas i'll match youse a pretty girl who naked is is worth a million statues
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 9 ай бұрын
😅 4:00 Well, bunny, he *is* insane. 7:25 Kirk: "Not in front of the Vulcan, if you don't mind."
@mygeekdom4414
@mygeekdom4414 10 ай бұрын
Factoid: this is the episode where they invented the Vulcan mind-meld which became a common element of Star Trek. They did because there were concerns about hypnosis. Possible plot hole. If Kirk was able to muster the strength the call for the ship, why didn’t he use the phaser to shoot the beam emitter.
@deadaccount7520
@deadaccount7520 10 ай бұрын
I think it was about her defending her field of expertise. You had Kirk. Who wasn't in the field. Questioning the motives and procedures of a person. Whose accomplishments were so extensive. That starship captains want to meet them. This may be a case where the name is so big. It becomes synonymous with their field. So to question him....etc. Or she was just a "Adam's groupie".lol
@bunnytailsREACTS
@bunnytailsREACTS 10 ай бұрын
That makes a lot of sense, thank you!
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 9 ай бұрын
Noel gets Adams and his facility completely wrong at first. McCoy, aboard the ship, has his suspicions.
@apulrang
@apulrang 10 ай бұрын
As the comment below intimated, I think that Adams died not just because his mind was erased, but because there wasn't even anything or anyone there to fill it again. Everyone else had their minds replaced, not just emptied. My take on Helen's attitude is that the point of her ... other than some cheap sexual tension with Kirk ... was to underscore how dangerous it is to trust so completely in any famous innovator, without a critical eye ... especially if they are famous for their supposedly humanitarian work. Helen should have been more skeptical, while Bones represented a more healthy approach to someone in a profession adjacent to his own. Something else I really like is how Bones and Spock didn't just dismiss Dr. Van Gelder just be cause he was "mad," but listened to him and took him seriously. Part of Adams' approach was to gaslight everyone into disregarding anyone considered insane.
@royroblox
@royroblox 10 ай бұрын
7:05 "HULLO" 😂🤣 To be honest, growing up with this episode, I was always bugged how Kirk brought along Dr. Noel as a specialist and then ignores her advice each time ... but yeah you're right she's maybe not impartial in defending Dr. Adams so much lol. No spoiler but if you like Dr. Van Gelder's acting, you're in store for something good in one of the later seasons!
@bigdream_dreambig
@bigdream_dreambig 8 ай бұрын
8:40 That's the first "meta" warning sign for the educated viewer. "Lethe" was the name of the river of forgetfulness in the Greek underworld. 11:26 "You will forget all you have heard." Yep, there we go! I wonder what exactly the woman Lethe had to do with it.
@TONYGILLEY
@TONYGILLEY 7 ай бұрын
The Vulcan Mind-Meld as it's described in the episode is the joining of two minds becoming one, this is due to the certain level of telepathy that Vulcans possess. Spock will use this technique on more than a few occasions. Writers of subsequent episodes, movies, books and various other Trek shows beyond the original series will add and elaborated further on how it works, going as far as to add not just a degree of intimacy with the process but giving a subtle and not-so-subtle sexual allegory (you can't get any more intimate than sharing your very soul with another person) Even adding questionable ethics with mis-using these abilities. (Brain Washing, Torture for Information, and Violations)
@kingsman8475
@kingsman8475 3 ай бұрын
The lady in this episode with Kirk is the niece of General Schwatzkopt.
@artvankampen8993
@artvankampen8993 7 ай бұрын
One of my fav eps. Kirk smiling at the end is his way of letting his bros know that he will be okay. It all is what it is. R.I.P. to your Dad.
@johnauten8142
@johnauten8142 10 ай бұрын
One of the best elements that helped make these episodes and the series so memorable was the visiting guest stars who at that time were at the prime of their careers.Jame Gregory had already been established as a versatile character actor, he would.soon have another sci-fi performance as the gorilla General Ursus in Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Morgan Woodward was also a rock solid performer best known in the cinema classic Cool Hand Luke as the cold sunglasses wearing prisoner guard who would shoot anyone who happened to get out of line in the chain gang work detail. All of these talented actors that visited the show helped to enhance the storylines and the performance of the Star Trek regulars.
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 9 ай бұрын
Boss Godfrey.
@darrellboggess4954
@darrellboggess4954 10 ай бұрын
she had 'textbook' training whereas McCoy from the beginning said that something was wrong...McCoy has practical 'field' training on top of book smarts
@curtrogers1715
@curtrogers1715 10 ай бұрын
Great episode nice job. This is the first time we see the use of the Vulcan mind mailed in Star Trek will be used to more times in the movies and other series as well. This is captain Kirkwood, caption of Federation, flagship visibility to resist torture, having a strong will in mind, thanks for the fun. Can’t wait to see next episode with you.
@Bawookles
@Bawookles 10 ай бұрын
The ending with Kirk smiling is just indicative of the kind of writing that was happening on tv in the 60's. Dramatic or heavy subjects could be broached in a show, but to end an episode on a dark or somber tone was generally frowned upon by the producers and tv networks. Basically, it was seen as too negative for a show's popularity to end episodes like that, so that's why you will see a lot of Trek episodes end with some light-hearted joke on the bridge or some reassuring smile, placating the audience into feeling better. Let's just say producers and tv networks routinely underestimated their audiences back in the 60's.
@mmattson8947
@mmattson8947 8 ай бұрын
Other commenters have come up with creative in-character answers, but sometimes you have to go with the behind-the-scenes explanation (like Bawookles said). This way to end shows in the 60s was hilariously mocked in the short-lived "Police Squad!" series, where every episode ends with a corny joke and a "freeze frame" on the leads laughing.
@manw3bttcks
@manw3bttcks 8 ай бұрын
18:25 Kirk and Noel should have waited until the goons have taken Kirk away for treatment for her to go down the conduit. It's seems pretty likely they would have checked/noticed she was gone
@MegaToronto1
@MegaToronto1 8 ай бұрын
They should've been more concerned with Kirk's well-being at the end when he tells his Science Officer to take the ship out of orbit, instead of the Helmsman. lol
@tyharris9994
@tyharris9994 9 ай бұрын
Just realized Dr. Adams is Inspector Luger from the TV show Barney Miller! Probably retired from the NYPD to the insane Asylum. Didn't want to end up like Kliner, Foster, and Brownie.
@tomstanziola1982
@tomstanziola1982 10 ай бұрын
Morgan Woodward, who plays Van Gelder, was trained as an opera performer in his younger days, Bunny. This training made him able to give such a convincing performance of the mental agony Van Gelder was experiencing.
@anorthosite
@anorthosite 6 ай бұрын
Contrast with his stone-cold character, the "Man With No Eyes" in the classic movie "Cool Hand Luke".
@tomstanziola1982
@tomstanziola1982 6 ай бұрын
@@anorthosite Great performance there, too! 👏👏👏👏
@steelers6titles
@steelers6titles 3 ай бұрын
@@anorthosite "Boss Godfrey".
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