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Carpathians is a bad example for spawn camping/pushing. The map is so small, and the A point is clearly designed to look down into either spawn. It's a very toxic map for that. You end up being able to "spawn camp" before you've even crossed the midline of the map. Absolutely ridiculous map design.

The difference between me and Odd: Me - Sees vehicle pull out 50m in front of me in the middle of the street "Is tank or AA?" Odd - Just hears an engine from 500m away "That's a German heavy. Probably a Tiger."

The first map is literally meant to spawn camp if you control A and games have been super small lately so games are over faster and you will find yourself in there spawn faster to and thanks oddbawz for covering this tank I have been debating on getting it and honestly it doesn't have that bad of a line up

Sitting on the porch with a cigar and a cup of hot chocolate, watching Odd destroy tanks...what a wonderful life it is sometimes.

Well technically as long as you don't bring a tent and start a small cozy fire to warm your tea or whatever y'all drink.. it's not camping

On the spawn camping issue, I think the difference that needs to be understood is spawn camping vs spawn pushing, going straight to spawn is a dick move, pushing to spawn when there is nothing else to do as all caps are won etc is a different thing, lines do get blurred but this is where I stand on the issue

I think there’s a huge difference between spawn camping (pushing into a spawn while ignoring the objective) and battlefield control (pushing to the spawn because your team has complete dominance). You demonstrated battlefield control today.

Hey Odd, just dropped my first nuke a few minutes ago. I was playing the Somua SM and same as you, got called a cheater :). I guess it’s just a French thing. Edit: Punctuation

This tank was a mixed bag for me when i still used it. I either had a great time with it, or I got killed by a light tank (or an R3) after 2-3 min . Tough I think it was 4.7 or even lower back than.

Never played war thunder in my life but went looking for gameplay of tanks shooting other tanks (volumetric despite its flaws looks really cool!) and you make the game so easy to enjoy and understand. Thanks BawZ

The German KV-2 who called himself "Auf Wiedersehen" is a legend xD

The French autoloaders are truly magnificent Especially for rank-IV and V The AMX-50 and the surbaisse version are great examples of this You either have a 100mm with a 4 second reload Or a 120mm with I think either a 6 second reload It’s amazing

Thanks man for your upload schedule and most of all the vids I’ve only have had the game for 2 years and I’m already better than all my friends because of you and all the tips and tricks you’ve given throughout all your vids thanks so much. Also man the modded shermans are my favorite tanks in this game for 3.0 to 6.0 keep up the great vids man❤️

Odd, thanks for the content man. It's always a fun time. You go right ahead and spawncamp and I can always watch somebody spawncamp the Russian and/or German teams. I've been spawncamped more times than I can to relate by the E-Z mode teams. It's always great to see them get their knickers ripped! Rock-On Odd!

I laughed so hard when I heard the smoke shell hit and make the poof noise and your reaction to it was flipping brilliant

Hello. Would love to see some content about how to improve game play. I'm 42 and been playing WT for 4 years and I think you are close to my age. The obvious/ best play seems obvious but is usually lost on new/younger players. You articulate things very well and I hope to see you share more of your knowledge...if not in a dedicated video maybe sprinkle in a bit more "tips" in your regular videos. Thanks for the content. I always enjoy it!

Bought this tank last Bastille Day to help me grind through the low rank French tech tree and I've only now just started using it now on my Christmas holidays and I can say is its fantastic! It was when my first time using it when I managed to win 3v1 fight thanks to it's high pen fast reload that made me appreciate it.

I go C. Theres hills behind it that no one checks. Makes scouting a blast. Especially when opponents try to take turns capping by themselves.

interesting to see you get the same kind of weird non-pens that I do with the French stuff around that BR

It’s day 111 of writing comments for the algorithm No.4

I actually ended up picking this thing up. Loads of fun! Well done, my friend.

"You got bombs for me or what?" The disdain for the enemy's pathetic cas really cracked me up

I've had this tank for a very long time now and one thing you mustn't forget; its still an early M4.

Been waiting for this tank to come back for sale, slept on it when it was first available. Got about a 6kd with it so far.

6:35 "A child" 😂

Awesome video as always Mr OddBawZ, excellent brain entertainment while eating breakfast and having a cup of tea in the morning. Personally I see it as: - spawn camping: is driving around the edge of the map avoiding everything with the intention of shooting in to the enemy spawn point (total scumbag behavior, I am sad that the game rewards it). - spawn pushing: is actually playing the game and engaging in fights/taking caps/etc and the battle going in your favor to the point where you push them back to their spawn (you and/or your team mates have earned it). When playing with friends I have to sometimes remind them when they complain about "spawn camping already" that we have been playing for over 10 minutes already and the other team has pushed through all the caps and pushed our team back to the spawn. The only time I get slightly annoyed by the spawn push is when the enemy team is almost completely level 100 players all squaded up and driving around in KV1 & T34 (or KV 85 and T34 85) and just going full send while saying "low tier is fun tier" seems like a good way to lower the number of newer players playing War Thunder to me.. more power to them if that is what they enjoy, but personally I never feel like I have earned a good result when driving those vehicles (usually to help friends level up their USSR tech tree).. likely because of the at times utter nonsense armour overlaps and crazy good pen at extreme angles on those shells lol.

Glad to know I have no issue with my monitor. Those map color changes is something they still need to fix

Hey bawz I just wanna tell you that i am thankfull for your content im covid positiv since 2 days now and sucks but your videos really help me so yeah thank you and have a good Day

oddbawz released a video on my birthday! this is the best present i could have asked for, i love your videos Bawz! Cheers bud!

At 18:27 it looked like a good opportunity for an event. Imagine seeing this pop up: Objective - Destroy P-1000 Ratte

I was away from my home for a few days. Time to binge watch your video's

I remember when the E.B.R. 1954 first came out, at 4.7 (now 6.3), and it had a lineup with this M4A1 FL10 and the M4A4 SA50. Absolute god damn massacre, nothing could stop them.

I luckily got this tank 75% off and I man I love it I played two games and love how not so bouncy the turret is compared to the other amx tanks

The mapscale and spawn layout for that first map has needed tweaked and/or increased for sometime now imo.

P108 is a beast. At the right speed (slow) and angle (shallow dive) the shots are like a laser. The longest range kill I've had with it is 4km.

Really enjoyed it. Have a nice weekend sir ;D

These and the other french oscillating turret tanks always make me think of the tanks in Star Wars hehe. (Probably vice versa ofc)

I thought war thunder was completely filled with toxic people except for youtuber bit yesterday I encountered a German main player like me who stuck with me through several games, offered me protection and spotted enemies. We repaired each other, pulled each other into cover. I wish this is how warthunder would be on average, it makes it so much more fun, even if you don't win! So be kind and at the very least don't call people bad names, it doesn't help anyone calling someone an idiot

in my opinion i think its good etiquette to wait till the enemy tickets are under 50% to spawn push

I used to play this when it was 4.7 and had 38 degrees/s turret rot. Also the EBR was 4.7 for a bit too.

Commenting for the algorithm I love the constant content and your laugh is great!

Just bought it and had a lot of fun on it. It's surprisingly fast for a Sherman

Bought the FL10 and the Somua today. the Fl10 is ALOT of fun.100% recommend it

I bought this tank (2990 GE) after you recommended it while watching the video to help me start my french tech tree grind.

about spawn camping, sometimes it's like there's no choice... so many map have capture points completely in view of any spawn points, although some have some cover of some kind, many others doesn't, and what do you want to do? hell some map have vision from one spawn to the other. I don't like to spawn camp either, and I won't push to the enemy spawn (by that I mean I won't move to an area that would automatically reveal my position on the map), but I will cut off any access to the capture points I can because that game is kill or be killed.

I used to do c on this map when I first started but now I've played many different styles of thanks and most maps a is by far the best to go after it's fairly easy to defend and a slight pain to take ie first map shown

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Some people are just wired a bit different when it comes to spawn camping. Ive got a friend that will just drive directly into the enemy spawn, regardless of whats happening with caps or tickets etc... and then cries and packs a little tanty when someone with spawn protection (in their own spawn) kills him. Theres no learning curve to this, its purely an instinctual action for him.

Game 1: from C I can hit that valley and have a nice viewpoint to approaching enemies while safe from A snipers and somewhat covered from planes. Holding A is still probably most important but if I'm in something without range...

Got my 1st double ace in that thing! Which is amazing because it so rarely one shots anything.

Amazing map design on the first match

Thanks for playing this odd, on my 1st match I got 9 kills, against tigers and panthers too lol. I love this thing Edit: I took it to 6.7 and got like 5 kills against us T34s and super perishings lmao

That colour change thing has been happening to me as well. Thought it was my video card.

Take notes, kids. This is the power of superior positioning. Well done, Odd.

the only bad thing about this FL-10 is after the auto loader is empty its a LONG time to reload all of them completely full. The next YT video with the P108 should be a riot 😀. Be awsome to see a Kv-2 bashing the enemy team YT vid

Do you think this tank is worth getting just for the credit grind? I'm in rank 6 france but i really do enjoy the 5.3 lineup.

when i get to a point where i have to spawn camp, i like to place myself in a place where i can be shot and not jsut hide and wait for spawn protection to go away, just seems fair like that

I generally don't say something about spawncamping but I really hate when there are players who literally just go for that within the first 2 min of a game. I could burst out in flames when I die after like 3 min, respawn and immediately get shot in my spawn without the game really having started yet

I bought this during the 10th anniversary sale. It is a lot of fun to play.

The problem with pushing C is the first team to get to C and cause the other to traffic jam on either of those roads.

When I saw the German flag on the T-34 747 (r), I immediately thought that must be Tank_Nr_56 and was confirmed by the killfeed shortly afterwards.

This thing was far more fun than I thought.

I don't know why you don't like 'C' on that first map. Some good fights can happen there and it's easy points for you if the enemy is ignoring it.

I noticed the other day that some of the maps actually got _smaller_ by the "out of bounds" getting pulled in. So lets see, instead of fixing the maps, Gaijin: 1. Broke traction modelling and introduced "mayonnaise" or "olive oil" terrain 2. Pulled the borders in on some maps, making them smaller. Yeah, that'll fix spawn camping. I'd love to see some new match modes, and make it like other FPS's where the caps become spawns (and of course the old maps need to be bigger). But I'd even take map edits where the spawns are somewhat protected from camping.

Hi oddbawz The jadpanther have a spot in the front,in the machine gun.Try go to hangar and test you going to see that kill jagpanthers is easy from the from.Sorry my english is bad.

Did you ever end up making the video with the P108A? Quite enjoy your videos, got me back into War Thunder! o7

It doesn’t help with the map/obj layout. There are times where it’s easier to go for the spawn than the obj. We desperately need new game modes honestly. Some kind of attack/defend mode or a historical battle mode where it’s period accurate tanks against each other in locations they actually fought.

7/10 times spawn camping is your team’s fault, and the other 3 times it’s gaijins terrible map design

I’m kind of on the fence on getting it. I’m already researching the Leclerc S2, but am not sure if it’s worth collecting it to mess around at 5.0/5.3

Great video and always wondered do you use keyboard and mouse or controller?

I had that weird color change today on Advance to the Rhine.

I seen someone who had a mod that made the shell leaving sound like a M1 Garand ping

Well played game mate, GG. You make it look EASY!

Like to say thanks for telling me this was available I've wanted it for a long time being on console sucks sometimes

This tank sorta depends on the map. It suffers somewhat hard in a open long range map but put it in cqc and this thing is the best to get 6 kills in a matter of 2 minutes.

why do the shells come out the back too?

went to C on _that_ map and played Strv103 with my T92. Was funny, I got 4 kills by sniping towards A

What if Gaijin would make Caps a little larger and then give u a small amount of sl and/or rp while ur inside the captured cap. Maybe that way People would be inclined to stay on the caps?

Had a match the other night and it ended up being me and one other guy on a two cap match. The vast majority of the rest of our team tapped out. A hard part of playing team games is you have to rely on teammates actually being teammates from time to time 😂😂 Ended up with a solid amount of RP and silver as a result but, would have been much more tasty had we have won. Shikataganai, ne (it cannot be helped, right?). Awesome video Odd. I'm playing the French lineup a little at the moment and I'm finding their solid rounds to be pretty lacking (compared to UK tree variety). I need to learn to focus on breech first shots more.

I bought this to skip the low tier french grind, was around the time a certain tank was still there for low tier france

It also has a Sherman hull making it killable by anything

What’s better a m4a2 or a merkav?

is it only for sale for a limited time?

Agreed; the only time I'm okay with being spawn-camped is when my team has been rolled back to spawn, the enemy is winning (ie 2-3/3 caps) and my team has crumbled. I'm not even mad, its fair game like that.

I wouldn't say pooping I would say more of ejecting a shell casing out the back of your head sort of thing is what the AMX turret does

That first game is a perfect example of why I ban Carpathians.

i just stop spawning in when people start spawn camping

I go C on the first map because everyone always goes A. But lately, like in the video, nobody wants to go uphill to really win the game.

Spawncamping is never an issue since it sits on the developer's side as far as blaming goes. But if I see bushes on your tank, which are signs of a bad player, then you can bugger off - same as everyone else who uses them.

The D-max poops too but it just kind of spawns out of the rear armor

My thing about spawn camping is that how it is now is entirely Gaijin's doing. There will be spawn camping in any game that there is spawning, and cutting off reinforcements is a legitimate job, but Gaijin has the tools to make it less frustrating and instead they encourage it in videos on their official channel while doing nothing. In my mind the hardest part would be map redesigns but otherwise making spawn camping less frustrating is pretty simple -- 1) Keep spawn radar but make it more obvious (particularly for new players) when an enemy is on it and more obvious to the enemy when they are on it. This could be as simple as an on screen exclamation point for the attacker and larger, non crew skill dependent, "look here" arrows similar to keen vision for the spawner pointing them where to look. 2) Don't just make spawn radar a radius but a custom painted area on each map/mode covering the blind corners close to spawn. I feel a player should be able to get about a grid square away from spawn with relative confidence and giving them that time and motion would greatly reduce frustration. 3) Enhance spawn radar so that if an enemy has line of sight in to spawn they are marked just like being in the spawn radar area; basically if they can see you blink in to existence they should be marked regardless of where they are on the map. 4) Map redesigns. You should never be able to fire in to spawn from an objective. You should never be able to fire in to an objective from spawn. And you should ABSOLUTELY NEVER be able to fire in to spawn from spawn. Spawn should be designed so that the spawner has every advantage and the attacker few. The fact some maps have spawns in an open field, on low ground, with no hard cover, and cover for the spawn attacker is honestly unforgivable. I make a conscious effort not to spawn camp but on some maps it is simply unavoidable - like those maps where you can literally be in the cap circle and firing in to the enemy spawn. I genuinely don't understand why Gaijin seems to be making no effort to combat it either when it is such a low hanging fruit to reduce new player turnover. It is Game Econ 101 that increasing player retention in a free to play game increases revenue. The players are your content and you need lots of them if you want your whales to keep investing. Nobody spends money on a game that feels "dead".

AdBoos can u do a vid on the pbv 301 it is a ikea murder machine anti air. R3 but at low br

Legends say when they fired a baguette they said voila

will it stay until sale? I can't buy it if its not sale

Literally EBR/Jakpz/DF105 at significantly lower BR. Only downside is solid shot. Thing is pretty solid up to 7.3 though.

it says its a new tank but i bought it way back in the fl10 pack and i love it

They might give it to warbond shop so I would wait a week to see or wait for 50% discounts that will be in roughly 3 months.

c is pretty fun if you can get behind that first rock cut engine wait 3 min cut on farm 6 nubs

Yo Odd, I bet you will not read this but pleas try out the Churchill MK 7 and get at least 8 kills with it. The Tank itself is ok but the Post pen damage is like APCR from 2017