Buying a NEW Surron? Watch This First.

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Looking for a New 2023 Surron Ultra Bee, Light Bee, or Storm Bee? This video breaks down all 3 of the newest Surron's to help you understand which electric dirt bike is best for you.
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The Lightbee X is Surron’s flagship bike. The first model was introduced in 2017 and it was 2019 when the bike hit the US market. There have been some updates to the battery, motor and specific hard parts, but overall, the Lightbee is largely unchanged since its introduction. It comes in with a super low seat height of 32.6 inches, weighs 123 pounds and has a current MSRP of $4,500. I think it’s the best bike to teach new riders, male or female, young or old, and the best all around bike that almost everyone can have fun on.
The Ultra Bee is bigger, faster and more off-road oriented than the Lightbee. It has a seat height of 35.8 inches, weighs 187 pounds and has a current MSRP of $6,500. A point that I really want to drive home with the Surron Ultra Bee is that it is a really easy, laid back bike to ride, especially when you’re in the low power modes. A lot of the DNA of the Lightbee carries over into this Surron Ultra Bee, making it a super playful, agile bike, but off road riders that are wanting more out of their Lightbee or those that are used to riding traditional dirt bikes will really appreciate the upgrades on this model. The bigger battery provides more capacity, its full size seat and more natural ergonomics, paired with proper dirt bike components, makes this bike feel like a more competitive option.
The Storm Bee is the biggest bike in the lineup, weighing 280 pounds, with a seat height of 37 inches and an MSRP of $8,500. You would think that the performance would be a step up on each of these models but I would debate that theory once we get to the Surron Storm Bee. Despite the fact that the Storm has the most power, full size moto suspension and a 21 inch front and 18 inch rear wheel combo, it also has the most weight, by a long shot. All of that makes for a strong machine but I still think the Ultra Bee is the more sporty option.
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01:07 (Surron LBX)
05:42 (Surron Ultra Bee)
12:33 (Surron Storm Bee)
19:14 (Favorite Surron?)

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@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

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@michaelgieg Жыл бұрын

Ultra Bee. I just pre-ordered one to ride with our son who has a LBX. Can't wait for delivery in May from CCWs!

@bcrproductions3862 Жыл бұрын

STARK VARG LOL, JK I still Love my Segway X260 it's the 1 I bought thanks to you Tucker😉

@mediatool9596 Жыл бұрын

Can't understand why these things go for $12k or MORE!! Yes they are cool but they should come with a permanent girlfriend for that much $$$

@markharris9508 Жыл бұрын

Sorry I finally got artic leopard here. Surons gone to new owner. Leopard is 3x the machine. 25kw 35hp and 800 ft lbs of torque. Gas machines drewl

@charleswinsett5248 9 ай бұрын

Ultra Bee is ballsie enough for me

@martinfoster5163 Жыл бұрын

I tried the LBX about 1.5 years ago. It was too small for me and I wasn't keen on the mods needed to fit me. I'm 187cm (6' 1.5") and 85kg (187 lbs) with a long torso. A while later, a used pre-release Storm Bee became available. I rode it, loved it and bought it. It's an awesome bike for my size and style. I don't do motocross tracks but we have endless open country to explore in Mongolia. So it works well for that. However, it's limited by its height and weight to less technical trails. So a few weeks ago, I added the Ultra Bee which inspires more confidence in me to take on steep, technical trails. Whereas, I'd tip over on the Storm Bee, I can catch the Ultra Bee before I drop it. It's so light for me and lower which really helps on steep hills. I love them both and I'm glad I can afford both. They are also cheaper to buy in Mongolia by about $1200 or so because we are next door to China. I paid $5200 OTD for the Ultra Bee (new) and $7200 for the Storm Bee (used).

@jakebarnes3054 Жыл бұрын

Mongolia must be so fun for biking.

@martinfoster5163 Жыл бұрын

@@jakebarnes3054 It is incredible.

@Jayden_sr7 Жыл бұрын

will the lbx be good for be i’m 5’5and 13

@flimflam7271 Жыл бұрын

Hey, I am 190cm and 105kg, and likewise tall in the torso, if I am primary looking to do trails, should I consider more the Ultra bee?

@martinfoster5163 Жыл бұрын

@@flimflam7271 I think it would be okay but you might want handle bar risers.

@TravisNobles Жыл бұрын

Really loving this comparison video. Excellent job as always. I think a lot of people have been waiting for this one.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

@theknifedude1881 8 ай бұрын

I’ve had a Light Bee for 4 years. I recently upgraded to a 72 Volt/BAC 4000. I’m 80 and I like the light weight. I live in a small town in Idaho(Twin Falls)and wish there was a local shop that had some expertise on electric propulsion systems. Idaho just got a Zero dealer (Idaho Falls). I’ve had 3 Sondors Ebikes and bought a Metacycle. Not happy with it! The SurRon is more fun. If the UltraBee had been available I probably would’ve gotten it. Thanks for the info/video.

@RytisBaltakys Жыл бұрын

Excellent review of each bike!

@carlosocatavious3363 Жыл бұрын

Amazing review, and fantastic footage.

@Burner-Adventure-Chronicles Жыл бұрын

That's why I keep going back to the 'X'...it looks small enough to not stand out if I want to hooligan. Just wish you could mod them at build, so not have to pay so much extra and then have the stock parts laying around. BTW: Don't forget, we can go to Fountain Creek, Pueblo, Penrose Commons, Seep Springs, Texas Creek...even Dragon Mans!

@johnbrown562 Жыл бұрын

yea i wish surron would make like a "light bee XR". it would be like an upgraded light bee with like 10kw, slightly better suspension, better brakes and maybe a 3kwh battery. But still remaining in the same formfactor to fly under the radar.

@dwill658 Жыл бұрын

Bro the light bee x is just as illegal as the ultra bee I’m tired of hearing this argument for a grown adult male the light bee x is like a childrens bike the size difference is not as big as everyone is trying to make it seem

@fastemx Жыл бұрын

Surron missed out big time not recognising that. Your best option could be to go to a dealer who can get spare parts , it is possible to build up a surrron that way depending on how much aftermarket stuff your getting

@geemy9675 Жыл бұрын

Luna's talaria R is like a built sur Ron for about the price of a stock one..

@vincentjohnston8789 Жыл бұрын

Another gr8 review! With more videos like this, the easier it will be for riders to make a better choice. For me the LB is an electric mountain bike - and the others would be classed as electric motorcycles. For urban riders with no garage, you may need to be able to easily lift and carry the battery out the LB to charge up and charging even on AC household is about 3 hours. Taller riders would most likely naturally go for the other two bikes :)

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

Ultrabee is for sure my next bike, next size up and much more bang for the buck over the lightbee for off-roading purposes at least. Brakes and suspension not being MTB based is a huge factor I feel needs to be considered. Being over 100lbs lighter then stormbee is a huge for keeping bike light and nimble.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Surron SD Yup! I agree! Modded Ultra is going to be hard to beat.

@markwilton4412 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider I wonder if this is the same for taller and heavier riders? It would be interesting if you could do a comparison for a rider around 6 + feet and around 80 + kg. Put a larger, skilled rider on each and get their opinion. It might help us bigger dudes sort out which bike suits us.

@johnbrown562 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. After owning a light bee for around a year and a half i think it would be cool to upgrade to the ultra bee. However a big problem that is see with it is the looks. I live in the suburbs of chicago, riding through parks, streets and the bike path. But the ultra bee just wouldnt fit in, in my area, it looks too much like a dirt bike to fly under the radar.

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

@@johnbrown562 yep and that’s why each bike has different traits that suit the individual rider. The smaller lightbee is more stealthy and more suited for urban scenarios, while still being an amazing tight single track ripper, but the caveat to it is that is uses under powered MTB brakes and suspension. The ultra bee while being less stealthy has all the things a lot of us lightbee owners have always wanted, motorcycle brakes, bigger beefier suspension, a more traditional moto style seat, a wider frame to bite down onto.

@BT_life2 9 ай бұрын

⁠@@markwilton4412much over 80kg😝 I’m 110kg & 189cm so most of these bikes are too small. Ultra Bee looks like the pick. I’m yet to ride one though.

@circularpizzabox2134 Жыл бұрын

StormBee looks like an E-Husqvarna. I really want one, but you couldn’t take it to the dunes, or mud without the batteries being depleted quickly. Seems like E-bikes still have a long ways to go before they truly can compete with a petrol burning bike. Still they look incredibly fun, and I would love a Surron for exploring smaller trails or adventuring around locally.

@Mayhemjach Жыл бұрын

Awesome review man. Can’t wait to get the ultra and storm out in Hawaii for some killer trail riding.

@theshreditor625 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Excited to see your full review on ultra bee! And also mods that come out for it Ultra. EBMX already has upgrade battery 82v 75ah and controller for the Ultra . Hope Chi makes a batter as well

@6NightStalker9 Жыл бұрын

I checked the EBMX website and don't see that upgrade. Is it an Australia only option?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@TheShreditor For sure, we sell th EBMX X9000 controller on our site as well. It'll be a bit longer before that is an option for purchase for the Ultra but looking forward to trying it. We've got some wheel options and suspension options coming soon as well too. Will be fun to try everything!

@heathcoterestorations5023 Жыл бұрын

Great videos! I have been following the scene for a while now, and I’m guessing that the ultra Bee is more like the old Quantyas? Size and performance? Would you agree? Also the suspension upgrade on the Ultra Bee would it be be more along the lines of mountain bike componentry or motocross…? Thanks again from New York!

@arthurfouquet5051 10 ай бұрын

There we go, bought an Ultra Bee and going to pick it up Today! 🖖 Thanks for this video, it really helped me chose!

@jordanbird9270 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review

@dr.x4050 Жыл бұрын

I'm also interested in version of Storm Bee which is more off-road focused that should outperform the smaller Ultra Bee in the MX track, for example.

@chupapi5715 Жыл бұрын

Yes bro I’ve been waiting for this for months!

@pauldanrich3919 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for such an informative video. Deposit is in on the Ultra!👍👍

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Paul Danrich Solid choice! 👍

@Laruxo Жыл бұрын

Thanks for these reviews, it really helps to see side-by-side differences between them. Really interested to see what mods would you do on a Storm Bee! I bought the Storm Bee just 2 days ago and also tested the Ultra Bee at the same time. For me Storm feels like a better bike - much more powerful, feels more solid, and that gearbox sounds is just amazing! Ultra Bee felt a bit underpowered, it immediately needs a new set of wheels and probably a suspension tune. I am very interested in what kind of mods we will see for both bikes.

@sixsmoke Жыл бұрын

I bought a Strom Bee a year ago (the cross version, 90V48AH) and now seeing the new version with the 105V55AH battery, I want it! I wonder if it's possible to buy the battery separately...? STORM BEE - TOP!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Laurynas Great to hear your perspective on it! Agree the modification offerings will be interesting for the Ultra. Looking forward to trying them!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@@sixsmoke It's a good question, I rode both models and the way the battery is secured in the bike was different between the 90v and the 105v. It appeared to be the same size but I'm not entirely sure.

@Laruxo Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider You said that you have an idea to test making the Storm Bee more racy. Without spoiling what I assume is your future video, what mods are you considering? Is it only about suspension or is there more to it?

@sixsmoke Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider Ohhh... =( That's too bad. But thanks for the answer.

@yohvh Жыл бұрын

I've had heavy street bikes. Had alot of fun on stock surron once.. But I felt I needed one with 12kw. Now I'm in dubious if I don't just need a ultra bee. However I'm afraid it's heavier and loses the nimbly. But then again it's not even that fast. So then the storm comes in. But at that moment it's even heavier....

@Hobbies4Hire Жыл бұрын

Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it. I think I really just want to get a light bee. If for no other reason than just for the ability to use just about any hitch-mounted bike carrier to pop it on the back of my 4runner and take it out to the desert. Now if I had a trailer I would probably be all about the new Ultra Bee

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Hobbies4Hire Thanks! The Light Bee is great but you can easily put the Ultra Bee on a hitch mounted carrier! I wouldn't let that hold you back. While it may be heavy for a bicycle specific carrier, I've put bikes as heavy as a KLR650 on a hitch carrier. 👍

@mattcgtx4809 Жыл бұрын

Check out MotoTote $$$ but would work great for UB

@gregorypatzelt6964 10 ай бұрын

What kind of suspension would you recommend putting on the light bee x in order to hit the track/jumps? I'm interested in doing ohlins downhill forks and rear shock. Have also seen people do fox 40s, Manitou dorado, marzocchi bomber, fast ace, ext Ferro, or even 85cc mx front ends. Which would you recommend for the best weight and performance??

@sc4rles Жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this 🔥

@randomdude8310 7 ай бұрын

Light Bee for me. I'm interested in an "e-bike" eventually, but recently got rid of my townie/hard-tail mtn bike since the riding vs. storage-hassle was too much. I saw some videos of these things getting fully submerged and riding away. It's not particularly in the budget for me, but I could see having a, mostly-waterproof, motorcycle. It would need to be "light enough" to load onto the frame of a standard 14' whitewater raft, preferably as a solo. (It's likely you would have some ramps/racks/straps that would serve multiple purposes between the bike/raft anyhow). You would still need a duo partner to avoid leaving the raft or bike un-attended for some portion of the shuttle operation. Solo-shuttle could be possible in the right time/place, but having a long-distance bike could save having to bring two vehicles/trailers and the associated logistics in either event. (river shuttle logistics are funny enough without extra people, vehicle, or trailer requirements. A typical 14' expedition-raft weighs about 200 lbs, between the frame and rubber, and comfortably weighs around 1200-1300 lbs with gear and liquids on launch day for a week-long trip. Your group size per boat, and desired level of luxury will dictate this weight, but I figure there's plenty of weight capacity for a bike and rack on my boat for a day trip...and beyond.

@user-xt9bi6bq8g Жыл бұрын

I have been riding Light Bee for a year. The problem is the small size. I think Ultra Bee has the best balance. However, it is quite expensive in Japan.

@woutervanteerling 11 ай бұрын

Maybe the main question should be: How many battery’s do you need for a day of fun? How many ride hr before the battery drop 80% condition, and then 60% condition. How much is a battery and how easy are they to get your hands on?

@seankelsey9739 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, I live in Colorado... was that Berthoud ? I bought a light bee about six months ago, love it.

@TheAnimeist Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your riding experience. Do all three have whiskey throttles?

@BARBATUS1300 Жыл бұрын

I believe that three models cater all body types, one for each. I prefer the Ultra.

@morsumbra9692 Жыл бұрын

Wow... for once a great product video that convinces me the smallest one is probably enough for my wants as a van life 2nd vehicle hood crawler type thing.

@timvlogtv512 Жыл бұрын

Love this video!! Now I want a Surron even more but also broke af 😭

@BruiserActual 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. I'm 6'4" & 230 lbs. I think I'm stuck with the Storm Bee as my model just due to size issues haha. I would mostly be using it for mountain trail riding in Utah as well. Agree or disagree?

@kill6894 6 ай бұрын

AGREE go for it

@michaelanderson3771 Жыл бұрын

Great review Tucker.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Michael Anderson 🙌

@cmbscx1084 7 ай бұрын

Awesome comparison video. I am waiting for the review of the legal in Commifornina vid.

@mattcgtx4809 Жыл бұрын

I hope in the full Ultra Bee reviewed Tucker touches on the traction control. I’ve just read that if you change the wheel size from 19 the traction control is not going to function properly anymore. I’m a fan of traction control on my dirt bike and it seems it would be a great addition to the Ultra Bee so this is an interesting topic I think.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@mattcgtx Thanks. I'll get into traction control in the full review and you heard correctly, swapping the wheel for a different size will not allow for the use of traction control. I imagine there will be a work around in the future.

@mattcgtx4809 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply! Hopefully a work around since I assume Storm Bee has TC with 18/21. For me just debating whether to go 18/21 or get a good set of 19” wheels to replace stock ones.

@marksfarmcraft1888 Жыл бұрын

At 6ft. The light Bee would be like a mountain bike with a non adjustable seat. The ultra seems like it will be a good fit. I have a DRZ, so don't really want something that big. Thanks for the lineup!

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

You'll definitely feel better on the Ultra. And a set of taller bars will go a long way!

@SamAndrew27 Жыл бұрын

Hey, I'm also 6ft and and a DR-Z400 is my main bike. Thanks!

@bryandickerson5365 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparo! I’m torn between the Ultra and Super. I love the idea of the Light Bee, but afraid I’d soon want something more substantial. Why do you think Surron stayed with 19” front wheel on the Ultra Bee - doesn’t a 21” alway roll over obstacles better? Would a 21” swap on the front of an Ultra change the geometry too much and slow the steering?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Bryan Dickerson For sure. It's my assumption that Surron stayed with a 19" because it's the most affordable option and allows them to keep the MSRP low. I'm testing a 21/18 on the Ultra this week and will post about it. I think it will correct the geometry issues that I'm experiencing. I think it currently sits slightly too high in the rear and low in the front and has some nervous tendencies in corners. Hoping the 21" will cure that.

@bryandickerson5365 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider That’s cool to think that a 21” on the Ultra might actually be a win-win. I look forward to seeing how that works out!

@valiant545 Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend the Storm Bee or Zero FX for street use that occasionally sees dirt?

@patelbv Жыл бұрын

Any idea how it the ultra bee compares to the Nicot eFox? The eFox comes with a 4 speed gear box and a clutch

@dREaDneck_Moto 6 ай бұрын

Great video, where was it filmed?

@rirrid5662 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another video on the Ultra Bee. Just have a question regarding the top heaviness of the ultra bee compared it's similar sized petrol counterparts like ktm 200exc,150exc, other and other 150cc type 4/2 strokes. How is the weight distributed compared to these bikes?

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Rirrid It's really hard to compare these bikes to ICE bikes in a lot of ways but I currently have a Husqvarna TC125 2 stroke and the Ultra Bee feels much lighter to me!

@rirrid5662 Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider Thank man just what I wanted to hear.

@dr.x4050 Жыл бұрын

The Ultra Bee looks about the same size/weight as a KTM 85 or YZ 85. I expect the Ultra Bee is also intended for the same-size rider.

@jkmarshall3553 Жыл бұрын

Love the video!! I'm totally new to the electric MX scene... would you equate the power of the Light Bee to an 85 or 125, the Ultra Bee 250 and the Storm Bee 400? Or perhaps 85, 125 and 250? Or is that just too simplistic a comparison? Just trying to figure out how these bikes compare to their gas powered cousins. (I currently ride a KTM 250 exc) Thanks!

@markcheavens4619 Жыл бұрын

I own the following: (from least fun to most fun) Yamaha XT-250, Surron-x, DRZ-400, WRX-250, KTM XC300W. The surron X is WAY more capable off-road, or on-road than an XT-250, Depending upon the task, Historically I rode the WRX or the DRZ depending upon mission. I now use the Surron or the XC300.

@johnbrown562 Жыл бұрын

the power on the light bee could best be compared to like a 125 4 stroke (just more snappy). And while i haven't ridden the others i would guess the ultra bee would be like a 2 stroke 125 and the storm bee would probably be some where in the same ball park due to this video saying they are similar in performance.

@DriverJ-N Жыл бұрын

If weight isn’t a concern I’ll take the ultra but the lbx looks like a mountain bike which is a pro if u wanna go every and anywhere without attracting too much attention

@mountaingoat8788 Жыл бұрын

My Gf Just preordered the Light bee x In That Purple color so she Can ride with me on my Talaria. Can not Wait!! she wanted the Phantom Purple so ETA is April/may

@MW-jm8qb 11 ай бұрын

I’m confused…. What about the surron x ? I guess I don’t know all the models ….. Are these older models / model names ? Is surron X newer than the three you profiled ? I’m looking to buy one …. have no clue which one to go with …..

@Theninezerosix Жыл бұрын

@ElectricCycleRider What mods can we expect to see come out for the Ultra Bee? Also, what would you want to mod on the Ultra Bee to get the best performance? ie: wheel size set, battery, controller, suspension I just ordered my Ultra Bee after building out my Light Bee, and I'm quite excited to get the Ultra Bee build kicked off

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Philip Pinto Great question! We're sorting out parts for the Ultra as we speak and will have options at ECR Parts [ parts.electriccyclerider.com/ ] when they're ready. In order of importance to me, I'm going to say 21/18 wheel combo, suspension mods/upgrade, and a controller. I don't think the bike needs a ton more power, so it may be possible to utilize the stock battery, but we'll see once we try a controller. It's putting out 12.5kW peak right now and I think 15-18kW would make it amazing. Trying out the 21/18 wheel combo this coming week and will report on that, with suspension and X9000 controller soon to follow! Should be fun. With those mods, I think the Ultra will be a pretty incredible bike.

@Theninezerosix Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider Awesome! I’m excited to see your reviews on the mods, and can’t wait to get my hands on some as well! Cheers

@surronsd Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider we are working on seat covers, triangles, linkages and headlight conversions as well 😎🤘🏼🤘🏼

@wetlifesports Жыл бұрын

Yes, tried the light, too small. I'm 5'10" 165lbs. It seemed like a kids bike. The Storm, imo, is a pig, way too heavy! I bought a Electric Motion Escape and love it at 183lbs. Just ordered the Ultra 187lbs!! , very excited about spec, weight and size, seems perfect. I enjoy super techy rides. Bought a Beta 300 Xtrainer for riding in Moab this second with friends on ktm300s. Just got injured yesterday, sitting out now, sucks!!!! If I had EME there would be no injury. Beta is great, needed the range but EME will crush it when you hit the toughest rock climbs. Hoping the Ultra is a great techy trail bike too.

@Ukmongoose3 9 ай бұрын

I had an electric M and really didn’t like it. Surron for me as its so stealthy. Just my 2p’s worth 🙂

@wetlifesports 9 ай бұрын

@@Ukmongoose3 really? Did like the EM? Which surron do you have/like?

@CrossWindsPat 11 ай бұрын

I have owned a TRX450 and rode a lot of quad bikes and BMX'ed a little as a kid. I moved into skateboarding and even built an E board but now im in my 30's and trick skating is just too hard on my back. My wallet is fat these days and even my 7 year old E board shocked me with the range and performance so I knew a nice ebike would be stellar. Soooooo my first motorcycle is gonna be an Ultra Bee!!! Im 6'2" 230 lbs So I know that light bee is just gonna be too small for me eventually. Should be here in a few weeks! Anyone got any tips?

@timking2822 Жыл бұрын

Great video.

@marks-0-0 6 ай бұрын

I was thinking about getting a Storm Bee but i only intend to ride woods and slower more technical enduro. I can i magine the Ultra feels more like a big mtb rather than a moto which i would suit me better for play riding.

@maxblowers6493 Жыл бұрын

When you refer to not trusting it being stock. What mods are there ?

@railroadgaming98 Жыл бұрын

I’m 6’1 220 I don’t know which one to buy I’ve ridden some 125s and 250 which one would you recommend me?

@mikeb.2166 11 ай бұрын

Ultra Bee for me as I'm a larger rider. I own an LBX and its too small for my liking but I mostly bought it for my 15 year old. I'm not sure if I want to sell it and get a Talaria Mx4 (2 inches taller + more power) or sell it and get an Ultra Bee since my LBX only has about 200 miles on it and is less than a year old and pretty much mint. What mods would you do on the Ultra to improve it? It seems pretty solid from factory but curious as to your thoughts.

@internetttroll1908 Жыл бұрын

Is there any power upgrades for the ultra yet? Wish they would sell some easy app tune by a fee to get 15kw-18kw

@bradk6172 12 күн бұрын

Very interested in an Ultra Bee for trail riding and if possible, supermoto track days with some 17” wheels. Will the battery/motor overheat on an asphalt/dirt supermoto track during a western USA summer track day? I can’t seem to find any info on anyone doing any SM kart track riding with these but that seems like it would be a ton of fun. I’d rather not have to deal with another gas bike and all the track prep that goes with it and have done some track days in NY on a Zero FXS that was a lot of fun. I got a few temperature warnings on the hotter summer days but never went into limp mode. Had a generator and pit power to keep it charged up between sessions which seemed to work fine. Interested to hear any thoughts or experience with an Ultra SM doing track days.

@jayneilson4982 2 ай бұрын

Is a 72v upgraded light bee faster or much more powerful than the ultra bee? Or are they around the same power wise as I'm unsure wich to get

@carrioncrow8191 8 ай бұрын

Grey review,but I do have a question. It looks like they are sold as off road, in US and Canad. Can you title this, and drive as a daily? This was not answered, even though it was referenced as a style of bike “dual sport”, as a comparison. Just want to ride on road as well.

@seamarsh3756 Жыл бұрын

Any forks off existing bikes that would fit ultra?

@Kidrodz213 Жыл бұрын

Is there any way you could direct me to collaborate with surron to work on there design projects. I think the storm bee parts should be on a ultra

@michaelevans831 Жыл бұрын

Ultra Bee will be my next bike. Are we getting a version with signals, etc? Definitely want to get it plated.

@ElectricCycleRider Жыл бұрын

@Michael Evans The US version will not have turn signals but the bike will be set up for it.

@DingDongDrift Жыл бұрын

i'm 6'4" and like to send it so i really can't decide between the performance of the Ultra and the size of the Storm. literally stuck in the middle lol

@Videogamesever Жыл бұрын

Hi! The ultra bee have the same belt drive like the x? Or got something?

@TheShrini23 Жыл бұрын

What's the range that you get on different modes on Ultra Bee?

@OneWayLife1320 5 ай бұрын

as someone that's 5'5 would it be possible for me ride a ultra bee or is it to big

@tigerrider6711 7 ай бұрын

Can you compare the ultrabee to something like a yz125, kx112, husqvarna 150 etc?

@austinharris6193 Жыл бұрын

What mods would you do to the ultra?

@TheShrini23 Жыл бұрын

What's the range on storm bee on an Eco mode if there's one available.

@jones701326 Жыл бұрын

Where at in Colorado is this track

@SamBischof Жыл бұрын

Did they change up their naming scheme? I thought the Light Bee was a lower voltage version and the X was the more popular one. Confusing by Surron if that's the case.

@tukos7370 Жыл бұрын

im impressed with how much air he's getting

@brock1732 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that the ZeroFX has a much bigger battery than the Storm Bee, but is only 10lbs heavier

@zainkagalwala3000 Жыл бұрын

Im really trying to find the purple one which sites have them.

@krispewkrem3 Жыл бұрын

I still stand by it: the Sur Ron is the most fun bike I have ever ridden. I have a YZ250, WR250R with dirts and supermotos. Rode a FZ-07, Ninja 400, 636, Harley, Grom, Monkey, Buell, CRF450, TTR125, etc. It’s just a ridiculously fun bike. Quiet enough to do stupid stuff whenever wherever. Still fast enough to blend with traffic and commute. The Light Bee is so compact and fun. Fits inside a BMW 435i Gran Coupe. It’s light and nimble. Ultra Bee looks solid and it’s lighter than a YZ250. But the Storm Bee, 280lbs…. No thanks. The WR250 is a lot of work off road and it’s just too heavy for now I enjoy riding. Ultra Bee is a solid winner if you got the cash. OG Sur Ron is gonna be a classic.

@dr.x4050 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. I'm just concerned the Light Bee, or Ultra Bee is just not as sturdy enough for any faster passed jumping - like a YZ250 on a Vet MX track unless the rider is very light, about 150# or less. I don't know if the 19" wheels are an issue for riders comfortable with the 21/18s?

@slakr7555 Жыл бұрын

If they could get the weight down on the storm bee, I’d consider it. At 280lbs, that’s 40lbs heavier than a standard 450f which are already heavy bikes. I definitely like the full size frame and components though

@jimji2774 4 ай бұрын

Have you ever actually weighed your 450 ? I would bet it is heavier than 240 lbs especially with a full tank of gas.

@moronanticriss 8 ай бұрын

Hello John, this is the light bee x or s? Really good video, Great info prior to make my next purchase😊 I was looking at the Ultra but would like to do a bit of streets riding so I am now looking at the light bee x.... but having a KTM300XC I may find the light x too smooth . Have you try the storm one?

@mrbad69 Жыл бұрын

Im confused, doesnt the storm bee smoke the ultra at top end speed?

@swank171 6 ай бұрын

Did you ever decide to do a motocross up fit to the storm bee? I ask because I ended up selling my Ultra Bee since it felt small for me. Being 61 200 pounds and chasing my son around now that he is riding the bigger tracks at Glen, Helen and Fox Raceway. I almost need a bigger bike. The days of 50 tracks and being able to easily keep up with him are coming to an end. I know the stark is available and mine should be here in January if I choose to pull the trigger, but the premium price has me wondering if I should just get some good race suspension under a storm bee

@andymartinez1426 Жыл бұрын

The Surron x fits in my small hatchback 🚗 car 😎🤘

@TheFastphill 9 ай бұрын

i new to electric how much run time foe each avg is ok

@mimrans41 8 ай бұрын

it will be be comfi for 180cm hight for enduro ride?

@daviddempsey-sv7ht Жыл бұрын

I had an electric bike I bought it for myself BECAUSE I LOST MY left leg and half my foot on right leg because I needed to get around I had it 2weeks and it got stolen on me I get so depressed Now I can afford to buy another one I loved my electric bike and I miss it now I can't get out and I watch yous all the time I love your bikes and maybe some day I might own one again

@MrErichonda30 Жыл бұрын

Did you get a manufacturers certificate of origin with the ultra bee?

@JimLBon 3 ай бұрын

These things look awesome for very specific use cases. For general, I'd still prefer an ICE or a mountain bike.

@woutervanteerling 11 ай бұрын

To modify and then compare again and your prefer/why buy this that bike! good thoughts!

@surroncountry Жыл бұрын

Im shreddin that ultra bee as soon as i see one

@bobupnkiss1614 Жыл бұрын

I like the little jetson ebike I just got but they could b faster with better tires n battery that last longer but I'm looking into upgrades and for other ebikes as well due to just finding out about these bikes being cool

@Gigachadly Жыл бұрын

How long will one of these actually last? Like how long until I’d have to replace the battery and how expensive would that be? Seems like just as much as a gas dirt bike for a guaranteed shorter life span.

@ChrisDavis333 Жыл бұрын

How long would it take to learn to ride that track in a similar manner as you? How long before someone could make those jumps? I rode dirt bikes when I was little, never on a track though just on the farm and stuff. I guess I’m curious how long it would take me to be able to ride like you are on this track, albeit not as quick or as proficiently as you, but to an acceptable level.

@nickwaltman7586 Жыл бұрын

Couple days bro just send it!

@ChrisDavis333 Жыл бұрын

@@nickwaltman7586but dude I could break an ankle! Lol

@doubledantastic Жыл бұрын

I pre ordered the storm bee but now you have me really wondering if I should change my order to the ultra. I’m 6’2 ~175lb. Is there a clear difference in the torque and get up between the two? I live in Colorado also and am wondering is that is also another reason to lean towards the ultra and maybe some mods on top?! 😅😅

@Laruxo Жыл бұрын

I am similar height/weight to you and now have the Storm for a few days. For me, stock Ultra felt underpowered and a bit small (which can be a good thing depending on where you ride). Also, I just love the gearbox sound of the Storm.

@doubledantastic Жыл бұрын

@@Laruxo Interesting. I live in Colorado, but I kind of want to ride everything. Just getting back into dirtbikes. I used to race bmx and motox when I was younger. Mostly been riding DJ mtb and my yamaha fz09 motorcycle. Interesting to hear the Ultra feels small and underpowered for a larger rider. Do you think you will end up modding it pretty quick or is it actually just nice out of the box (especially thinking about suspension here)

@Laruxo Жыл бұрын

@@doubledantastic I come from ADV bikes, my only other reference of dirt bikes is CRF250L (and a few rides on 250-450 KTMs). For now I will keep it completely stock. Later in the year I am thinking of doing some easy competitions and for that I might need to work on the suspension. However, I expect that the power will be enough for me for at least a few years (and then there will be the Stark Varg).

@doubledantastic Жыл бұрын

@@Laruxo thanks for your input. Stark varg is definitely the machine but this should last the two years before I can get one, and I’m wondering if $5k in mods on this will basically make it as good as that bike. Idk idk

@TheGermanRiechOfficial Жыл бұрын

Hey John what’s up brother? Love your content and I love how you talk about your experiences, where you’re going and the history of areas!……. Off topic. Your “about” in your KZfaq bio says you joined in 2019 but I know you have videos goin back at least 6 years, back when you were mountain biking and bmx ‘n, can you explain why it’s only counting 4 years? Thanks John and stay safe my brother! 😊

@iconfitness8252 Жыл бұрын

Very helpful, thanks, also there are some cheaper bikes as good as ultra or even better with wet clutch!

@kelz_2247 Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of waiting for the new stark to come out, nervous about these bikes not being suited to my height and weight

@eastwood111 Жыл бұрын

Yeah smart thinking! These Sur Ron’s are OK, but their Chinese bikes at the end of the day. The stark is whole new level!

@ElectricStitchedRaven 8 ай бұрын

Please do more videos of the Cyclone CS20 from E strapz

@HKnK8 Жыл бұрын

How and where did you get Ultra in US?

@chupapi5715 Жыл бұрын

What’s a recommended weight and height to ride any of these bikes?

@roccoVAL Жыл бұрын

this is a great question

@donnieflame 9 ай бұрын

I'm 230lb and 5'10 ish and even the light bee x is super fun to ride but on straight aways I think I get up to like 65km/hr which would be nice to get more but I mostly trail ride and not many trails near me you can even go 60 lol