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Buying Pre-Owned Carbon Bike Frame: "Once Over" Things To Check

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Shane Miller - GPLama

Shane Miller - GPLama

Күн бұрын

Here’s my “once over” process when looking at the 2nd hand Giant TCR frame I picked up yesterday on Gumtree. Looking for any signs of wear and tear that might indicate the bike has had a hard life. Good news for this frame was that it is in excellent condition.
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Raoul Luescher: goo.gl/7hd5tr
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@LuescherTeknik
@LuescherTeknik 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the mention Shane, some good info there. My additional golden tip is to remove the stem and check the fork steerer for over tightening the stem clamp, it is really common to see damage in this area. If in doubt bring it in for a scan.
@bakhirun
@bakhirun 5 жыл бұрын
Most appreciated, Shane. Great set of tips. I've so many cases of carbon fiber failure that I am quite wary about riding a CF bike on generally poorly-maintained Indonesian roads - or buying a second-hand frame locally. I'll be sure to follow your checklist.
@michaelcreek4035
@michaelcreek4035 7 жыл бұрын
I love my Giant, exactly the same frame changed it to 11 speed easy as. Welcome back to the Giant club
@crazycodkilla99
@crazycodkilla99 7 жыл бұрын
ya that would be amazing if you could go through some of it while you're building it!
@biskitalia1
@biskitalia1 7 жыл бұрын
just a couple of things . I know the frame looks good , but you should have pointed out the bottom bracket area sometimes the insert comes unglued and cracks around hole The rear hangar, is the thread crossed or worn and lastly the intergrated seat stem in a crash that area takes a real bash so check for cracks there . The frame looks new and I know you are going to get it checked out so these other things to look for when buying a second hand frame. Buona pedalata ciao Jon
@mikex8254
@mikex8254 7 жыл бұрын
uv exposure can make plastic become very brittle and shatter if it has been stored in direct sunlight for long periods. even if an old frame appear ok its probably wise to replace a frame when it become old and had alot of uv exposure to sunlight or stored in a cold unheated garage
@JeffreyThistle
@JeffreyThistle 7 жыл бұрын
Post a video of how it looks after it's built please.
@arock3053
@arock3053 7 жыл бұрын
+1! Would be great to see a "how to" of the build as well, if possible. In particular bottom bracket and head tube, steerer assembly. I'm thinking of building my next bike and the Giant is one of the frames I am looking at as well. Enjoy it, Shane! -- And thank you for the videos!
@jamesroyds5069
@jamesroyds5069 7 жыл бұрын
Another quality bike youtube vid. Thanks shane. Can't wait to get back down under to enjoy more outdoor cycling. Snow expected where I am tonight.
@brianhillebrand7140
@brianhillebrand7140 7 жыл бұрын
I'd enjoy a vlog of you building this bike including info about the components you choose and reasons for choosing them
@cooper9917
@cooper9917 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I am going to inspect a used Ridley Xnight carbon frame and have a bit more confidence in my decision-making now.
@arollason111
@arollason111 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forwards to the build videos! Looks like an awesome frame.
@MickJabber
@MickJabber 7 жыл бұрын
Raoul is a great man, absolute legend.
@uhhhhh262
@uhhhhh262 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Waze shout 👍🏼 awesome in London
@saleemwaheed9956
@saleemwaheed9956 7 жыл бұрын
Shane your videos are cool. You have an easy going style that is really appealing. I want a carbon frame set, and buying one used is probably my only hope.
@taavinen
@taavinen 7 жыл бұрын
Love the frame stand mate. Going to build one myself 👍🏼
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Just rolled in the door from another 70km on it. It's growing on me. I still need to tweak the bars/stem combo.
@OliverBatchelor
@OliverBatchelor 7 жыл бұрын
Looks in better condition/less used than my 3 month old frame. I tried to make a stand like yours, but messed up - the sawhorse is marginally too wide, so I'm going to need to nail a piece on to lift the bike up or plane the end down.
@BIGDO13
@BIGDO13 7 жыл бұрын
Deffo wanna see you build it...
@AzzaBit
@AzzaBit 7 жыл бұрын
Love the saw horse bike mount. looks like a trip to bunnings tomorrow
@BobMaulucci
@BobMaulucci 7 жыл бұрын
Great looking frame, clean as heck.
@albr4
@albr4 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently you can "tap" the carbon to see if it's structurally sound. Broken carbon will make a different sound from good carbon.
@gplama
@gplama 5 жыл бұрын
Only for the ears of experts. It'd be difficult for me to know the differences would be.
@MaximeToulliou
@MaximeToulliou 7 жыл бұрын
Great job on getting this frame! You should do a tutorial showing how to build that stand it looks ace
@ketjuariittaa
@ketjuariittaa 5 жыл бұрын
Now this winter(ozzi summer) Shane will have a new bike🤓☝🏻
@jonathank5289
@jonathank5289 7 жыл бұрын
DURIANRIDER - will be proud you are riding a TCR even if you aren't vegan. I think his is 2012 or 2013 and he's taken up MTB trails in Los Angeles that many mountain bikers don't ride! Add crazy adventure 150km rides on nasty road/ trails in Thailand!
@Orgakoyd
@Orgakoyd 7 жыл бұрын
Nice stand! I'm planning the same thing, but using just a hub axle out of the rear hub of a BSO (Bicycle Shaped Object) found on the street. I'll do a video of it.
@SU37
@SU37 7 жыл бұрын
HI I bought a similar frame, the early SL version. after I took it home I found out the seat tube is cracked. So be sure the check it by pull it out. also the rear wheel hanger CF parts also worn out by the QR skewer. Bugger
@lbmcr
@lbmcr 7 жыл бұрын
you've got yourself a cracking frame.. nice one
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Cheers... well.. I hope it doesn't crack! ;)
@lbmcr
@lbmcr 7 жыл бұрын
Shane Miller .... ;-)
@iainkenneth9952
@iainkenneth9952 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice frame. I would love to see the finished build.
@bartdebruin6999
@bartdebruin6999 5 жыл бұрын
Really nice video! I was wondering if you have any video on how you made that bike stand. It looks really nice!
@Mr220mw
@Mr220mw 7 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Southern California Shane. That's a great looking frame! What groupset are you going to build it up with? It would be helpful to see the build up and why you picked those components. BTW, found your channel when you appeared on the Cycling Mavin's VLOG. All the best!
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and dropping by with a comment. I'm putting DuraAce 9000 (mechanical 11spd) on this one. I picked up the groupset for under AU$1000 new so it's a budget build (frame and wheels AU$800) that should end up being a pretty nice bike. Still a few days off finishing it. I'll cover it in a video for sure.
@nicolainielsen7700
@nicolainielsen7700 7 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make a build video on it? Like a tutorial on how to build a bike.
@oahceilliw
@oahceilliw 7 жыл бұрын
you gotta check the bottom of the bb area, that's where I found a hairline crack once on a second hand carbon bike
@barefeg
@barefeg 7 жыл бұрын
awesome series
@meatpopsic1e
@meatpopsic1e 7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the build. What about a "once over" wheel inspection?
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent topic to discuss! I'll put that on the list. The wheelset I got with the new bike hasn't made it on camera yet. Stay tuned! :)
@Hjemtilhjem1986
@Hjemtilhjem1986 7 жыл бұрын
Make a video where you build the bike up, going to build my first bike next week and think the inner cabling will be hard to do.
@EatSleepTrainSmart
@EatSleepTrainSmart 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Erik Sivertsen Having a spare spoke (J Bend) available helps a lot with internal cabling. A borescope also helps with cable routing and inspecting the inside of the frame for damage.
@Missouriflies
@Missouriflies 3 жыл бұрын
check under the chainstays near the BB ......
@kermit56780
@kermit56780 7 жыл бұрын
yep on the rear chainstay is nothing absolutely nothing, was only caused by wheel flex hitting a nice big rut in the road OR the previous owner having had one too many currys trying to keep his BMI in check.
@robbiestorey8262
@robbiestorey8262 7 жыл бұрын
would recomend pulling stem off and checking steerer for over-tightening... burnt by that one before..
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
I should have included that, yep. We had it off yesterday when we chopped and slammed it at Dr SLane's. It's looking pretty neat now! Not far off hitting the road on it for a good roll.
@willwhite1987
@willwhite1987 7 жыл бұрын
You're paying lots of attention to cosmetics, but really on a second-hand bike it is functionality/structural integrity that matters most. Even if the paint job was dented here and there, there is nothing that a couple of layers of nail polish couldn't take care of. But being able to spot cracks or signs of serious wear is what's it should be about -- also, headpost, and short the fork has been cut off, and if it was done properly.
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
That's what I was doing... Cosmetics is indicative of the life the bike has had. If I saw wear and tear on it, I'd have taken it to Luescher Teknik for a scan and review.
@orci77
@orci77 7 жыл бұрын
If you go for a Power2Max it would be interesting to see what to do with Shimano crank and chain ring. As far as i understood you cannot use the original Shimano parts. Or does this change with version 2?
@maxfactor4209
@maxfactor4209 4 жыл бұрын
I should do sound test too
@pedroandrade2398
@pedroandrade2398 7 жыл бұрын
those giant colours are my favorite in every single model. Dope s***t! \m/ so you think that's worth buying fram and separate components and build yourself instead of a buying a complete one with same specs? regards.
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Just wait until I put blue bar tape on it and totally ruin the vibe! haha! :) Buying 2nd hand in parts is cheaper for me as I like to customise most of a build. If I went a full bike I'd only have to strip it and sell/buy other components.
@pedroandrade2398
@pedroandrade2398 7 жыл бұрын
Shane Miller i'll wait and see. regards from portugal.
@benb1071
@benb1071 7 жыл бұрын
Build video next!
@R.T_Go_Your_Own_Way
@R.T_Go_Your_Own_Way 7 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Lama , but I still don't trust carbon frames , let alone second hand carbon frames.
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
As long as you're into bikes, it's all good. Carbon, steel, bamboo... wait.... maybe no the bamboo one. They're really heavy! :)
@ZMan-xr5fz
@ZMan-xr5fz 7 жыл бұрын
How do you get your audio so good?
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
I use a seperate mic.
@MrOndrof
@MrOndrof 7 жыл бұрын
how much did you pay for this frame? also how much would i spend if i wanted all components on it
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Around AU$700.... Components depend on what level you go with. I've gone DuraAce 9000 and using a lot of parts I already had. The whole build came to around $2500 for now....
@mealdama
@mealdama 7 жыл бұрын
where can I get a mount axle like what you've got there Shane? thinking of doing the same diy stand but don't know where to look for the axle mount
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
It's just a front hub I picked up for $5 or so from a 2nd hand bike bits store.
@elidouek5438
@elidouek5438 7 жыл бұрын
why were there two holes (one plugged) below the FD mount?
@biskitalia1
@biskitalia1 7 жыл бұрын
perhaps for mounting 53/39 or 50/34 the changer is mounted higher or lower
@thetheflyinghawaiian
@thetheflyinghawaiian 7 жыл бұрын
All this does is make me realize how beat my bike is.
@ch2263
@ch2263 7 жыл бұрын
Why train indoors in Australian weather?
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Australia is a big place. Today we have 40C in some parts, blizzards in others. There's also factors such as time, roads, other weather, kids, work. Some people choose to train inside. Some not. It's all good.
@davidddd7594
@davidddd7594 7 жыл бұрын
CBT Nugget inspired outro?
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
Jeeezzz.... It's been years since I've watched those. Security+ I think was the last series I slept, er, sat though. (Kidding on the sleeping, they're a brilliant series of videos). Lama. MSCE CCNP CNA Sec+ Linux+... um.... SCSA (Solaris...) and I forget the rest.
@AaronGale85
@AaronGale85 7 жыл бұрын
1st
@wildsilverh
@wildsilverh 7 жыл бұрын
Add "carbon" to the title for more views!
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
You sir, are a wizard! ;)
@wildsilverh
@wildsilverh 7 жыл бұрын
I thought some more. "buying used carbon bike frame, is it safe" Second hand is Aussie.. Used is global.
@silviofontana3666
@silviofontana3666 7 жыл бұрын
its a giant, why bother buying such a sub class frame, Colnago, the most innovative bike frame company in the world.
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
+Silvio Fontana Because it was cheap and good value for what I'll be using it for.
@silviofontana3666
@silviofontana3666 7 жыл бұрын
Cool, enjoy your ride, even the pro tour teams ride Giants, so there must be some goodness in some of their range - ride hard mate, before you get too old like me - cheers
@grahamkitchen1077
@grahamkitchen1077 7 жыл бұрын
its the rider , not the frame , by the look of the frame in this video i would say it has never been used . why buy a bike and never use it ?
@gplama
@gplama 7 жыл бұрын
I think this was a warranty replacement or insurance replacement or similar.
@chewchew74
@chewchew74 3 жыл бұрын
what's the point of showing a perfectly good frame...
@gplama
@gplama 3 жыл бұрын
I'm showing what to check for. You're disappointed I purchased a good frame?
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