Good tip!

Yeah good addition! I was a little worried about addressing grabbing draws, I know people who have put a quickdraw deep in their hand from grabbing them while falling and when they were getting patched up the doc told them someone lost a thumb grabbing a draw that day. Pretty scary stuff.

@@ClimbClearbrutal, I’ve heard similar to be fair but when dogging routes it’s just the done thing….well not falling and grabbing the draw, that’s just asking for trouble, more when you’re working a few moves and then grabbing the draw to pull up.

@@kevedwards yeah I’ve totally done that, just careful planting that seed in beginners heads, you know how jerky new climbers are and if they think about it as an option a bit above a draw and grab it while falling bad news bears

Thanks buddy, not yet haha but I’m happy to be providing value to even a few people :)

Thanks buddy! Yeah I know haha..... I try to stay away from all the techy words to help out newer people. Some people who have english as their second language have reached out and thanked me for it. It gets a little crazy with all the words in climbing haha

Heck yeah buddy! I'm making these for people like you. Feel free to jump in this community if you want to ask me any questions. Theres actually another surfer in there whose learning and at the same stage as you www.skool.com/climb-clear-academy-6044 Cheers!

Yeah those are good draws! 12cm has been pretty solid for my areas, that’s one thing I didn’t cover in this video but unless you have wandering routes 12cm is pretty solid from my experience

Really just down to preference, but I personally agree with the guy above. It’s only 6g difference to get the 17cm dogbone over the 11cm, but the extra length seems worth it. Longer is better for wondering routes but also better for bad clipping stances, sometimes the FA put the bolt in a really annoying place to clip from, and it’s nice to extend it. Never had an issue where the draw was “too low” to clip, but I’ve had several instances where it was too high and I was clipping from crimps in a shitty stance instead of jugs in a nice stance. Especially for shorter climbers they’ll thank you for having longer draws. Can also do the trick someone mentioned above of extending by clipping two dogbones together too if it’s especially heinous.

@@Chris-Wernette Yeah totally, lot of nuance involved. I try to stay away from "never" or "always" when teaching. This is simply what I do and how I think about things. Alpines have served me well in the scenerios you are talking about. But honestly, I just bought the cheapest draws for my first set and learned all these things after climbing for years and trying out other ones. Location is a huge factor too for sure. Different bolting in different places.