Getting rid of the annoying and frankly dangerous automatic systems in the BYD Seal that take over aspects of the driving. Also getting rid of some annoying sounds to make driving more pleasurable.
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@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Bloody hell, if you sooks didn't like that, then you'd better run away before you see what's coming next gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/2QSb89VWZsqw.jpg?o=1
@accesser8 ай бұрын
Keen to see what you do, Have a good Christmas.
@CptMishMashVonRandom8 ай бұрын
Keep posting mate. The internet is full of cunts, but some of us are sound cunts who enjoy your stuff. Happy Christmas. 👍
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
@@CptMishMashVonRandomYeah man, I'm not too worried about them. Some guy just saw me in traffic before and yelled out that he's a subscriber. I was driving my Tesla, so he recognised it.
@kevins.1728 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech the Seal must feel like an absolute POS compared to your Model S no?
@Crazy--Clown7 ай бұрын
@@kevins.172 It is a piece of shit
@BradMottram8 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your attitude to everything! Couldn’t agree more us as the vehicle operators, we should have complete control of what features are enabled we want and don’t want!
@dlokcn18 ай бұрын
Hi. You can turn off the startup sound by clicking Vehicle Settings -> Intelligent Reminders -> Vehicle Prompt Sound Source -> change from Brand to Standard. The left and right turning sound will be standard as well. The labels may not be exactly same in Seal, but all BYD cars should be similar. 😄
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Thanks for that. Now it's been set.
@dlokcn18 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech In UK recently there was an OTA for Seal, it's said with it the alerts are much less than before. You may try the OTA.
@Rob345707 ай бұрын
Just curious why you bought it? It’s not like they added all that annoying stuff after the test drive. Unless you bought it to complain and make content? Don’t get me wrong, all that stuff would annoy me too, but I’d vote with my feet and walk out the dealership
@frankbjrnsten71898 ай бұрын
The indicator sound. Is and option, you csn just choose another. The stereo needs another setup, heard it tuned right. The sound was amazing. You can set the adas up so you just need one setting on start up, to turn off. Sounds to .e that you haven't bother to set the car up right.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I found that indicator sound after I made the video. Still, the default was a bit stupid to have.
@benjaminprieto66058 ай бұрын
@frankbjrbsten7189 any cues for tunning the stereo? Also how to setup the quick the adas?
@wendyparisienne66254 ай бұрын
Hello everyone! Just spend an hour to find a solution on a brand new Byd seal! And this is not the way at all … you just need to enter the car system on the screen … third entry on the vertical menu then last entry on your right on the horizontal menu … and change the sound to standard… all the noises and spaceship sounds GONE without touching any fuse ! Enjoyyyy 😁
@TallPaulTech4 ай бұрын
For bullshit ADAS crap it is
@wendyparisienne66254 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech Fyi, the adas sound will be gone with the « standard » mode… no loud screen sound when its on or off … no sound with the speed limit … etc … 👍😊
@TallPaulTech4 ай бұрын
If you want to go through a menu to turn ADAS off, then have a dash full or yellow warnings, then go for it. I like to get rid of the shit once and for all.
@wendyparisienne66254 ай бұрын
Do we have the same car ? 😅 I went to the menu once. Change to the standard mode. And I did not touch a thing since. And no yellow warning at all 🤩🤷🏻♀️ you maybe but touching the fuse on a brand new car … anyway hope I will help new owners. 🤷🏻♀️
@TallPaulTech4 ай бұрын
@@wendyparisienne6625 No we don't have the same car. Mine has a way better stereo
@Steve-vf4to8 ай бұрын
Lol at the "I'll do whatever the fuck I want". Subscribed.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Mate, that's how it ought to be! Cheers
@alfreedngАй бұрын
In Hong Kong my BYD Atto 3 allows me to select what kind of driving assist I prefer. And it stays as it is until I change them again. No annoying.
@ArclampSDR8 ай бұрын
I wasn't betting on the indicators making that weird ding sound. That a whole musical intermission when you start and stop the car is a bit much
@khx738 ай бұрын
so very Asian ..cute little jingles and happy symbols
@lukeg7798 ай бұрын
If these are anything like the Atto 3’s, you can turn off some of the goofy sounds in [Vehicle Settings] -> [Notification]
@SamiPaju4 ай бұрын
I wonder why none of the car reviews talk about this stuff... Things like this would genuinely piss me off so much that I'd just return the car :/
@TallPaulTech4 ай бұрын
Because the world's turned into submitting soft cocks.
@louischristos95937 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, following in from our previous dialogue, I strongly complained to BYD. They took the car back for a day and toned its all down, although still not acceptable, not comfortable, very challenging! Today : not only the road black snakes, I was getting thrown all over the road from the power poles overhead electrical cable shadows on the road 🤣🤣 The only way this will get sorted, if many people continually raise Thank you 😊
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
Well, since I pulled those two fuses out, the car behaves. I hate to break it to you, but nobody in a company is going to help you, because nobody in a company gives a shit about what you want or think. That's the state of things these days.
@louischristos95937 ай бұрын
You would think they should be held accountable for selling cars for not disclosing this material fact…. and they keep selling as we speak. I doubt very much that each salesman is advising the buyer….. I will give them the opportunity…however I think you may be right!! What if only taking out the one fuse? I bloody use the cruise control a lot….bugger!! Have you tried that ? I sent Byd your video link plus another re the same complaint, along with my formal dissatisfaction. We will see they are good citizens!!
@xeon_17058 ай бұрын
You can thank the eu for that line assistance crap Cleary thought up by a ploitician that doest drive cars on european roads that are narrow and getting narrower with the new cyclist first roads they are making.
@davidbroderick74278 ай бұрын
You dont need to bypass the audio noises... there is a setting that removes that and makes the indicators "normal" sound. Takes 3 secs if you bothered to check
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've changed that setting since the video. Still, a new big custom stereo is going in, as was always the plan anyway
@davidbroderick74278 ай бұрын
@TallPaulTech how are you going pass the stock stuff through?
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
Problem is if you have to disable the annoying ADAS features every time you start the car. That's said, there are only two things that need to be disabled, not everything that was shown in the video. And apart from this being very annoying, the issue with with disabling things is that you are also not benefiting from these potential safety features. But until they calibrate them properly, they are more trouble than they are worth.
@AlphaBeatish8 ай бұрын
Unnecessary snark
@davidbroderick74278 ай бұрын
@AlphaBeatish if someone is going to put out content to proclaim this or that then they should at least have the fortitude to fact check themselves
@manofleisure758 ай бұрын
I haven't gotten the car yet (early next year), but sat in one and played around with the settings a bit. From memory there is a swipe down option from the top of the screen that has quick commands. I think you can turn off all those ADAS things there if you preset it. Might be wrong though, only played around with it for 10 mins. Also as a fellow baldy, how is the sun through the roof? I'm in QLD and was wondering if I need to have the shade inserted 24/7. Cheers mate.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
The roof is fine. The Tesla is the same, the heat doesn't get through. I obviously felt like playing around with the car a bit anyway. Others don't seem to get that. Check out my pinned link to see where I currently am :)
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I just want to get familiar with what's where in this thing.
@manofleisure758 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech Cheers mate
@HermanWillems8 ай бұрын
Have you also looked at the new model 3 RWD upgraded version? I never got annoyed by the sounds, it has way less sounds.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
The main reason I bought this car is because it's not a Tesla @@HermanWillems
@rabbitazteca238 ай бұрын
i read that the resetting ADAS settings is due to the European regulations. Though I hope that BYD introduces profiles and that it would allow you to choose a custom profile on startup
@louischristos95937 ай бұрын
I drove the Seal for 1 days….took it straight back. This is absolutely annoying. I encourage you all to write to BYD and complain. I had an update installed and it has settled down somewhat, but still does not allow a relax drive….i was trying to avoid an overwidth truck and was pulling me in to dangerous territory. Come on people, you voice will get change to this deadly driver assistance software. Such a nice car, however what a let down!!
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
I think at least this video has got a few people talking
@888YangJi8 ай бұрын
the ADAS reset is because of some stupid EU regulations compliance reason.
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
I am hoping BYD Australia will override this nonsense for Australian cars.
@888YangJi8 ай бұрын
@@vasil7410 👍👍
@06younger8 ай бұрын
If you use the indicator........you will not have to fight the steering wheel. BYD are working on an OTA update to tame the intervention of the ADAS systems and make it easier to turn some of them off. I drive a Skoda and if I try to leave my lane with lane keep assist activated.......the car will try and stop me unless I've indicated. It's not rocket science.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
That old "it will be fixed in a magical update one day" just doesn't do it for me.
@06younger8 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech each to their own I suppose. Would you at least concede that all lane assist systems will buzz the steering wheel if you swerve out of your lane without indicating. As a viewer, who's watched possibly every review on that car and has driven one........your video seemed like a bit of a "hit" piece Elon.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I didn't really get any of what you said then.@@06younger
@06younger8 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech Happy Christmas 🤶
@Johnsmith694488 ай бұрын
I've had lane keep assist on four cars from Honda, Nissan, Hyundai and Toyota. They all complain if you change lanes without indicating, but they don't try to force the car back in the lane when you turn the wheel past a certain point. They will gently turn the wheel when the car gets too close to the edge, to center the car, but will not interfere with an active lane change or emergency swerve, even without indicating.
@dpg20048 ай бұрын
"ill do what the fuck i want" - man you crack me up
@rowenyap32158 ай бұрын
Don't need to take the fuses out, BYD did an on air update that stores your settings when you turn off the lane assist and speed sign recognition
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Cool. How/when does/did this happen?
@rabbitazteca238 ай бұрын
i think it was recent since I know I watched a review about the car and how they also hated the noises it was making but then the reviewer said that "BYD fixed it" probably referring to some update or something.@@TallPaulTech
@Andrew-Night8 ай бұрын
@@rabbitazteca23 I ordered my Seal and BYD must delivery It to me in the following Days... So that they I Will ask them for that latest update which allows you turn or the beeps alerts!!
@Neilhoh34 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech You didnt get it? Guess you wouldnt know because you fucked around with the fuses.
@timmywashere11648 ай бұрын
So at what point do you just build your own car?
@jamess17878 ай бұрын
As soon as yo momma leaves his house. 😬🥺
@sobanoodlez93727 ай бұрын
can't you change most of the sounds under the "Notification" options?
@davedonnelly86818 ай бұрын
Thanks for being honest with the issues you’re finding.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Just saying it how it is.
@davedonnelly86818 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech knowing what you know now would you still buy it over a model 3 highland ?
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
What's a model 3 highland? @@davedonnelly8681
@davedonnelly86818 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech 2024 model 3, facelift. Stupid name
@auPython8 ай бұрын
You do realize that by disabling the ADAS and you do have an accident, insurance companies being the asshats that they are, may not cover you saying you modified the safety systems of the car. This is, in my opinion, just a reasonable hypothesis of what could happen in the future. I don't deny the audio warnings would get annoying in the Seal. My Ford Escape Vignale has these systems but fortunately the way I operate the car, they are nothing more than I minor nuisance. Also, the lane keeping assist is excellent in my car as is speed sign recognition.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
You do realise that if I drive into the other side of the road into someone it would be my fault anyway, regardless?
@Crazy--Clown8 ай бұрын
Haha stupid assessors wouldn't even know what a fuse looks like. This car reminds me of the Boeings Max, doesn't like human input
@auPython8 ай бұрын
I am not talking responsibility, I am talking coverage. Leaving you, or your estate, open to financial liability.@@TallPaulTech
@antronx78 ай бұрын
@@auPython Tell your ins. co in writing that your car does not have ADAS features when you sign up. Should be no different than insuring old car without all this safety shit.
@JohnLamjohnlsl7 ай бұрын
I will just not Drive this, If any unlucky reason you get into a crash, most likely your insurance will say you are insurance is voited because you are tampering with the car safety system
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
If I were to cause a crash, I'm liable anyway. At least now I actually have control of the car, and not have it do its own stupid shit to me. Think about it.
@johantoong43577 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech I'm more concerned in the instance that the accident wasn't your fault, or if the fault was a little bit blurred and some investigation was needed. Would these actions affect the insurance claim at all in Oz?
@piotrmoczulski40078 ай бұрын
It seems these ADAS systems become mandatory in various countries, and eg. EU made it mandatory, that they have to be switched on on every start-up. The most common solution is to mute them (luckilly they haven't forbidden it yet), but it depends on car manufacturer if this setting is saved or not.
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
The "feature" which attempts to keep the car in the centre of the lane is actually quite dangerous. I don't know if this is due to BYD's poor implementation, but it's certainly a case where the Euro NCAP bureaucrats have gone too far. I don't think ANCAP is as anal so hopefully BYD will adjust it for Australia.
@GFRS7 ай бұрын
Apart from your Disney Soundtracks, this is exactly my gripe with the VAG's MEB platform of electric vehicles as well. In my case, the Q4 e-Tron, but all the MEBs are like this. To disable specifically the lane holder, I need to press and hold the button at the end of the _wiper_ handle for no less than four seconds. Personally, I will not even attempt to reverse engineer anything. I will simply add some electronics to the steering column to emulate press and hold of this button at every startup. Caveat Emptor - I have not truly researched this, but rumors are that EU directives now dictates that _if_ the vehicle is equipped with ADAS, it _shall_ be activated on each and every start-up of the vehicle. And it _shall_ be a PITA to disable. What is more easily confirmed is that eCall became mandatory on 31 March 2018, and «Intelligent speed "assistance"» plus «Reversing detection with camera or sensors» and «(Driver) Attention warning» became mandatory on 1. January 2024. As is «Event Data Recorder (EDR)» aka. "Black Box" by Amendment 160 to Annex I of Regulation (EU) 2019/2144. They also mandated some «Alcohol interlock installation _facilitation_» for good measure. More to be progressively introduced on the roadmap up until 2029. Additionally, remember that the design criteria for the EU Galileo GNSS navigation system was that is should be precise enough to facilitate virtual toll roads. Oh btw, automotive Cybersecurity measures to stop reverse engineering from occurring is now also mandatory. There went your Right to Repair, by courtesy of the EU Council…
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
Don't forget the kill switch they want installed.
@simon-c2y8 ай бұрын
Well done, you just made the car driveable. Loss of cruise control is bad though.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Yeah, but this was day 2 of owning the car. I may do something a little more in depth in future.
@az3d1478 ай бұрын
If it's running android what about gaining root and bypassing that way?
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I've had the car for two days. I can't do everything at once!
@az3d1478 ай бұрын
@TallPaulTech no drama's, wasn't sure if I was on the right path! BTW love the video's mate!
@UTube-gs1yf8 ай бұрын
Shouldnt be turning off the front cross braking especially, and child presence detection I wouldn't think. You should be able to leave the speed sign reading, but turn off the alert. That way you can always glance and know what speed you should be doing. You can change the indicator noise to traditional blinker easy enough on Atto 3, I assume on that too. Which also deletes the start up noise. Deleting your cruise control makes the whole thing not worthwhile IMO though I do agree you should be able to save your preferences and not have to go in each time and change it. Hopefully BYD provide an over the air update on this.
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
ANCAP is not as anal as Euro NCAP so the top of my list is to put pressure on BYD Australia to allow us to save preferences.
@Neilhoh34 ай бұрын
Fuck that. Who cares what speed you SHOULD be doing? I'll not be told what to do.
@deserialized8 ай бұрын
About indicator sound. If I remember correctly there are two sounds to choose from. The other sounds normal.
@wcrash93618 ай бұрын
He knows this but he gets less views if he says it’s a great car
@bridicot8 ай бұрын
That jerking sensation from your car's ADAS when you try to change lanes without signaling? It's a nudge to remind you to drive more safely. Remember, it's not just about your driving enjoyment; it's about keeping everyone on the road safe.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Nothing about that automated bullshit keeps anyone safe.
@12Hak8 ай бұрын
I think you may be doing the wrong channel. A tech channel is about using the tech and making it work@@TallPaulTech
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I made the car work properly@@12Hak
@antronx78 ай бұрын
how about you remember to mind your own fing business
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
There are two systems, one that tries to keep you within the lane, the other which tries to keep you centred in the lane. It's the first that interacts with the indicator, as you've described. It's the second system which is downright dangerous.
@JoshuaFawcett8 ай бұрын
The noises and having to pull a fuse to make the car function "normally" along with a dozen amber warnings would be a deal breaker for me. It'd be interesting to know if the sounds and settings could be modified by somehow accessing the onboard computer/ecu. People have been modding ECUs in ICE cars for decades, but it may be different in these. I imagine that the sound would be controlled by a linux powered infotainment given its coming out of the speakers, which 9/10 can be "hacked" into with enough time and effort.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
You know what?... you're right, people have been midding old cars for decades as you say. I get the feeling that a lot of people who jump on board with these new silly cars are the sort who are too afraid to touch things, and therefore think that nothing should ever be done. I was never into modding cars before, but now with this new stuff I kind of am. It's an indication of the new generation who are afraid to give anything a go themselves, and are of the 'govern me harder' attitude. It's a bit sad really.
@pete38978 ай бұрын
They're a product of the environment they're brought up in.
@Joram06118 ай бұрын
The whole ADAS system is, in most new cars, part of the NCAP safety system. Even western cars have that nowadays to get the highest NCAP rating… the problem though is exactly like you said: it takes away control of a car where you're responsible for whatever happens anyway. It doesn't make much sense: if the ADAS system decides that staying in a lane is more important than avoiding a bicycle, it will jog the steering wheel. If you then hit a person, you're the one going to jail for it (or get fined at least). So thanks for showing how to disable it, I'm sure it works similarly in other cars as well :)
@Joram06118 ай бұрын
@@wcrash9361 What you're describing is correct, but you're still talking about software. Even Tesla, which is said to have the best (ADAS) software, still makes mistakes. And in case of a near-collision you don't always use your indicator lights, not can the software always be 100% correct (bad lighting or rain can sometimes be a problem for example). Just because the software will "do what it's supposed to do" during situations where the software will judge a situation being dangerous, that still doesn't mean that it will take the right course of action. Aside from that, if the software does make a mistake and you simply "let it do what it's supposed to do", then the drive will still be held responsible for the damages. Your last sentence doesn't even begin to make sense. Software isn't flawless, and plenty of people prefer being in total control of the car's behavior. That has nothing to do with speeding or tailgating.
@Joram06118 ай бұрын
@@wcrash9361 like I said, you're not making any sense. Software isn't perfect, which is shown time and time again with these half baked ADAS type systems. If it starts nudging or correcting you, that means you're not entirely in control. Also, please try to use some capitals and .'s in your sentence, you're making less and less sense now. And are you able to keep the responses ontopic or would you like to keep trolling?
@255668 ай бұрын
This is a terrible car. I can turn all that off on mine and it remembers the settings. Now you've had to ruin cruise control and the emergency braking which are essentials. And every time you turn on the car you get warnings about ADAS being unavailable... I would return that piece of crap, they managed to make a worse software experience than Tesla
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I don't know about that. Tesla software is pretty fucking useless. Then, they bloat it so it's slow, pathetic and useless.
@Le-Prawn7 ай бұрын
How thee fuck did this car get a 5 star safety rating...
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
Safety doesn't actually mean safe anymore it seems. It's just a tick in the box exercise.
@johantoong43577 ай бұрын
Safety ratings are based on how safe the passengers are IN THE EVENT of a crash. And it looks like the Seal is very proud of the 5 star rating. So proud in fact, it seems eager to show it off in a crash 😄
@Jonathan-L7 ай бұрын
Apparently the lane keep assist system also gets confused with 'tar snakes' as if they're some protected species. I miss the good old days of running over real snakes.
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
I just miss the good old days.
@huntchris7 ай бұрын
Agree with the ADAS woes. I also have a Seal and feel like I'm performing a flight cockpit check every time I get in just to turn things off for the drive! I do like the cruise control though so I don't think I'll be pulling the fuses out anytime soon. I was in Sydney traffic today and loved the way the cruise control managed the crawl. On the indicator sound, there's a setting that persists to change that. Also, I don't get that welcome sound so I must have turned that off somewhere (accidentally!). I think I saw a setting to increase the sound volume in relation to the Spotify also... i.e. may be each app can have its own sound levels. Don't quote me though.
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
Yeah, the indicators are normal, and the start/stop shit is gone too. They're part of the branding setting. I don't use Spotify or anything other than USB music, but as I said I'll be getting a proper stereo in this anyway and bypass the lot :)
@borsossandor7 ай бұрын
Hello @huntchris! Which seal do you have awd or rwd? How long can you ride in motorway? What is your consumption there? I am planning to buy one. Are you satisfied with it? Thank you
@christopherhunt91507 ай бұрын
@@borsossandorSeal Premium. 500km+ real range. Happy with it but the ADAS and Tesla charging issues bbmust get fixed.
@waynej7478 ай бұрын
If it’s steering the car into oncoming traffic, that’s not “annoying”, that’s a “product recall”!
@zforce698 ай бұрын
But but but it's an EV, the can do no wrong.
@freakybeast50688 ай бұрын
I like the Seal. Surely they will update the ADAS. If they had one pedal driving and no stupid delay in acceleration, so it drives like an ice vehicle, I'd buy one tomorrow!
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that delay is probably the only thing that I'd wish wasn't so.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
My P100D is for sale if you want that. It's definitely instantaneous!
@freakybeast50688 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech do you think BYD will rethink it and remap via an update? Shesh P100D out of my price range I'd say haha
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I don't think they would have any desire to. As for the P100D, it's still the monster of the roads for sure! @@freakybeast5068
@terminator17628 ай бұрын
6:30 You said it! Additionally, if YOU pay for the car, YOU get to decide what to do with it (within the law, of course).
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Personally, I am going to put pressure on BYD Australian to fix the bloody software. The more people that complain, the more chance they will do it. I'm still learning about the car and the WiFi functionality is another buggy part of the car. At least we have everything controlled by software, they have the capability to do OTA updates to fix it. My understanding is that the software is actually being modified to some degree in Sydney for Australian cars, so maybe that's a good thing.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
My phone didn't like the bluetooth connection, even though it connect and car said it downloaded contacts. The Android car thing didn't work though. I'm not worried, was just playing around.
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech I got Bluetooth working fine. Android Auto, however, is a pain in the arse if you enable it because it automatically starts every time the phone connects to the car. To access the car's menus - to disable the annoying ADAS bits - you have to exit Android Auto anyway. I have never used Android Auto before so I don't know if it's the same on other cars. I have disabled it.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I'd like to figure out a way to get a video feed onto the screen somehow. I could do something with that.
@Foxy_proxy6 ай бұрын
Perhaps try and burn the fuses and put them back in, could be the same benefit without it being as evident to insurance companies.
@DarrenMossAU8 ай бұрын
I am surprised the car doesn't have driver profiles that are either aligned with the key fob or something you can select that adjusts seats, radio, sound settings (including indicator noises), etc. Love the plates :)
@johantoong43577 ай бұрын
THANK you for this. This car is just about to launch here in Malaysia and I've pretty much decided on this over the Tesla M3, but these annoying software tics and dings really didn't help with that decision. I'd do this on the first day, but does it turn cruise control completely off? I tend to use that quite a bit on a day to day.
@hsmptg8 ай бұрын
I was expecting a packet filter and I got a fuse extraction! :D Great work (as always)!!! Merry XMAS!!!
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I was thinking of the Vietnam war when I did it. No matter how tricky and complicated the system was, it was defeated by something simple.
@Carl_Georg8 ай бұрын
Those noises are hilarious 😂 Indicating sounds like your plugging and removing a usb stick
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Well, there was a setting to change them to a standard relay click sound. It will all be moot once I get my separate custom stereo installed anyway.
@Carl_Georg8 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTechNothing more frustrating to a techie than not having full control over a piece of software. I'm surprised BYD doesn't allow that sort of customisation.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Even more frustrating is when people in the public blindly bow down and do whatever they're told to, rather than having the old school spirit of giving things a go yourself.
@Clove_Parma7 ай бұрын
Hey Paul, am I right that these are ATO (ATC) plug fuses? Just trying to figure out so I know what gear I'll need to hardwire a dashcame for when I park mine (getting it later this month apparently). Cheers mate
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
I'm going to use a fuse tap for mine when it gets here
@lowguidoschopshop8 ай бұрын
There is a menu option to turn off the silly sounds of the indicators and alerts. Mine was playing loud music outside the car whenever I was driving under 20ks.. its supposed to warn pedestrians that a silent car is coming, but it was more like I was the Icecream man driving down the street. There's options to change it to like a spaceship sound, or just some other high potched sound people think electric cars might make.. but I turned that ish off quick smart.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Too bad, it's still getting a custom stereo in.
@lowguidoschopshop8 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech im not against custom stereos as you should well know. But i feel that some software changes should sort your problems out. And then you can still keep the quite nice interface that the BYD has.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
You're talking to a guy who wants a bull bar on his P100D :) @@lowguidoschopshop
@Lachlan.Wright8 ай бұрын
If we met in person we wouldn't get on - but I like you, and you're not wrong.
@TheGreyfoo7 ай бұрын
Hi Paul, thanks for this vid - appreciate the candour. I'm contemplating a BYD, but this vid aptly demonstrate that the vehicle software is sorely lacking in common sense. So I'm holding out, hoping they update the software for all the vehicles. At the most basic level, an EV should remember settings and let us turn off the unpredictable, potentially dangerous assisted safety rubbish. More chance of that happening than Tesla 3s getting actual indicator stalks, right? :) Can't wait to see ZEEKR and Xiomi enter the field - hopefully the new competition will inspire some better, less flakey software in otherwise awesome vehicles. Come on BYD, fix this please!
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
All any of these things need are user options that are stored... you know, to give the actual owner/operator control of the device. Simple. They will never do that though, as it's all about their power/money so it's not in their interest, unless their money starts walking away.
@cwallis888 ай бұрын
Very much enjoyed your use of "f**k that off" haha
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Well, sometimes things just need to fuck right off, pure and simple.
@malster1818 ай бұрын
You know you change settings, or change the sounds Paul?
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Yeah, just did it.
@wcrash93618 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTechmaybe redo your video then to stop you looking like a complete fool
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
says the guy commenting on everyone's comments
@wcrash93618 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech so your now even trolling comments on your own lame video lol what a loser lol Plenty of comments agreeing with me how pathetic your video was done showing your total ignorance
@dmhboag58828 ай бұрын
Did a test drive in seal and indicators made a normal tic tok sound, must be in manu
@louischristos95937 ай бұрын
Hey Paul, the worst you haven’t experienced as yet I see. Trying to turn left at a T junction can be challenging…. Car braked on two separate occasions on me placing me in a difficult position with nose sticking out on to main road. What a headache, plus I got a headache from the brake jarring…. Sure next couple of days. I was simply trying to merge with busy traffic and in safe manner. The Driver coming down the road went off at me for pulling out and suddenly stopping, I had no control :/ Hopefully enough owners will write in and complain to reassess this. Unfortunately I like/need my cruise control for the kms I drive. I sent your KZfaq video to BYD so they start to think seriously about a remedy!!…although I suspect toy may have made contact.
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
No I didn't experience that, because I pissed that whole shitty system off about 5 minutes after getting the car. I'd like cruise control too, but there is no normal cruise control anymore. I haven't used it in the Tesla for years. It's annoying that the last time I had cruise control that I actually controlled was in an old Lancer.
@marquisdemoo17925 ай бұрын
We have the UK version of this vehicle so it maybe it a bit different, but if you indicate before pulling out of lane, as you should even for potholes, then it will not fight you as it suppresses lane guidance. The only issue is the light indicator press brings the indicators on for too short a period so if you are not into rapid lane changes on the motorway then it grabs you whilst changing lane. Of course, if you put the indicator on fully this is not an issue, but you have to cancel the indicator once in lane.
@Nevexo2874 ай бұрын
Indicating around a pothole?! Crazy.
@marquisdemoo17924 ай бұрын
@@Nevexo287 Common sense applies, it depends on the size of the obstruction, but what would be crazy is changing your line on the road without checking behind you and indicating.
@Nevexo2874 ай бұрын
@@marquisdemoo1792 Fair. The problem comes from people that indicate at every opportunity, when the action they’re about to perform makes absolutely no difference to anybody. It ends up with people throwing the indicator on, in place of checking it’s safe. A bad habit to get into. Your checks are only good enough if you know there’s no reason to indicate (or of course, there is a reason to indicate!). We cross the centre line all the time in England, our roads are small and we park on them. Indicating around a parked car when it’s very obvious to the person behind me that I’m in fact, not, going to run into it, just leads to an ambiguous signal. Am I about to turn right, or am I about to move over slightly and not cause you any problems.
@marquisdemoo17924 ай бұрын
@@Nevexo287 Try bicycling in the UK. Invariably the first car in a line of cars will indicate to pull past you, none of the others behind it will indicate., they have become carriages in a train.
@_BangDroid_7 ай бұрын
Totally agree with that saying. If they want to have the great power to control a rolling weapon, they should be more responsible. Not steer you into oncoming traffic. That shit should be recalled before someone's injured or killed. Where's the government on this? Outrageous.
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
You're right, but I wouldn't be expecting any government to give us control back of.... frankly anything. I hear in Europe they're bring in kill switches for new cars so they can be remotely stopped.
@hanneshonigmeister84543 ай бұрын
Kind of strange, because the Seal I tested here in Europe a month ago, didnt make the weird noise at the beginning. The indicator sound was also "normal", not this strange "dingdong". Generally speaking, I really didnt like the cluttered Dash and Screen in the middle. Its just ... too many little icons and signs everywhere. Other than that, i really liked driving it. Felt much comfier than a Model 3 and I like the outside look more.
@TallPaulTech3 ай бұрын
Those custom noises for indicators and startup can be turned off. All my icons on that screen have gone since pissing off the fuses for that lethal ADAS shit, then reset Android.
@Today_I_Want_To7 ай бұрын
I think if you just turn off the warning off or to vibration only when you turn car on it keeps the settings
@BillyWallace7858 ай бұрын
Hes right thought. I’ve test driven this car and its technology is for the tip!
@Leiton19858 ай бұрын
That plate.
@255668 ай бұрын
Accurate
@NSHarrison8 ай бұрын
What is that about?
@pummyy7 ай бұрын
Why bother buying this and pay for all these features just to turn it off? I do agree. It is annoying at times with all this assistance. As I have a cars with and without driving assistance. I hardly miss the system when i'm driving the one without
@pummyy7 ай бұрын
@@scotteverett5932 yeah same here 0 stars without AEB. But yeah atleast you can disable as simple as that.
@cjssurf8 ай бұрын
Of fuck thats what i have to look forward to. No thanks I'll keep my diesel a while longer
@kevindgillamАй бұрын
Good video. Well presented, helpful and to the point.👍
@ulfw8 ай бұрын
I'd prefer a software solution/hack to this hardware hack frankly
@denisaskirilovas401222 күн бұрын
I was planning to buy a BYD Seal U in Europe, but your video has a strong point that it is just a freaky, dumb, and dangerous car to begin with.
@stephanelambert18468 ай бұрын
How was it with the tesla? Did you encounter the same issues?
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
The Tesla has been a cunt for years. I did a video on that, where they added a default warning that previous wasn't default. Now for the past 5 years, every single time I got into the car to drive somewhere I have to go into the menu and turn it off because it defaults on. I wasn't going to go through that again on this one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atF_ad2klt_dfHU.html
@mikenewman40787 ай бұрын
Any owner who drives one of these vehicles in Byron Shire without pulling those fuses risks their lives and the lives of their family. In Byron Shire pot holes are never repaired, instead someone paints around them with DyMark. The roads are narrow and windy and totally unsuitable for pretend AI.
@mikenewman40787 ай бұрын
I need to add BYD isn't alone with this problem. I'm talking to you VW. Maybe the failed software is actually German.
@TallPaulTech7 ай бұрын
@@mikenewman4078 I can't believe that not only is this automated shit in cars allowed, it's actually being called for. It's insanity.
@mikenewman40787 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech Previously a 5 star safety rating meant something . The electronics as safety ain't it. On occasions even ABS is a problem forcing the driver to try and outsmart it, assuming you have enough distance. Phantom braking is quite a scary one, given that tailgaters exist.
@jacksmith42668 ай бұрын
Never have found out why are Chinese so hilarious with the sound designs and ecommerce commercial text & images?
@CptMishMashVonRandom8 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to replace the audio files that are played maybe? I think you mentioned in the last video that it seems to be android based so it should be fairly easy to get root access. You may even be able to change the default parameters for the ADAS in there so that you can keep cruise control too.
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Everything's easy in principle. Actually doing things is a different story.
@Robert-nz2qw8 ай бұрын
Did you buy that car unseen??
@RevanParker6 ай бұрын
Just that turn signal sound fx alone is already a deal breaker for me.. the hell is that lol
@show1636 ай бұрын
Well, you can change it to classic sound from the screen
@pete38978 ай бұрын
I can't stand all the modern EV noises! I just silenced my ZE1 Leaf completely, then re-added the indicator tock noise back by monitoring the CAN bus and pulsing a small speaker when the right packet is seen :)
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
See, that's the sort of shit I like. Where's your video on that?
@pete38978 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech lol, I only did it for the Mrs! She said it was too eerie with no noise at all. So she gets a curtosey soft-switch for it that defaults to OFF every time heh :)
@pete38978 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech no video, but I did a write up. I posted a link, but YT blocked it. Try searching mynissanleaf and silencing the ze1
@franciscoshi19688 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTechI also did some hacking of the CAN bus on an MG. I added one pedal driving and fixed the cruise control. I had a look at the Atto3 but can't add one pedal. The VCU is in the same processor as the motor controller. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gaedgpSIqq-5gIU.htmlsi=EYIDfus8AHvsNYKw
@yggdrasil90398 ай бұрын
The Litmus test of all technology (and the first question you should ask of any tech) has nothing to do with its functionality. It's: 'How easy is it to turn off?'
@KajHeGeHaggman8 ай бұрын
Brilliant! And greetings from Finland!
@davejhanssens6 ай бұрын
Strange that these issues exist in the seal as most don't in the Atto 3. The indicator sound is selectable between a chime and a normal click. The ADAS steering bump, can be turned off by your thumb with a button on the dash. And the speed alert i have only heard over 20km over the speed limit but i have turn off. I wonder why they allowed the Atto to be able to do all this, and not the seal
@MrSinthesys6 ай бұрын
This had to clear the new 2023 ancap safety regs, the atto was under the old one.
@benjaminprieto66058 ай бұрын
I love the car, but I have to turn off the assistane everytime, Ill try the fuse trick Question, does this turn off all the assistante, the emergency breaks have save me from stupid bumps in other cars in the past...
@zyzz19926 ай бұрын
This video is comedy gold 😂 Btw, is this standard across all seals throughout the world? I just visited their showroom here in Malaysia and tested the car. The seals here have all those annoying sounds off and settings saved and no ding dong, dong ding sound when indicating.
@TallPaulTech6 ай бұрын
So many people are complaining about this shit. It's the nanny state world being shit.
@BGraves8 ай бұрын
On the Tesla when you try to do a double lane change with that feature turned on it rips the wheel out of your hand if you're just using 1 hand 😂 surely when they tested that feature they didn't consider a double lane change?
@mblagoj2 ай бұрын
buy yourself a Yugo, it won't annoy you at all, I am sure.
@GameNOWRoom8 ай бұрын
1:40 Fav quote of the day
@fuba448 ай бұрын
By pulling the fuse, did you also disable the auto break?
@frankbjrnsten71898 ай бұрын
Yes and Acc. And cross traffic its a stupid solution.
@peterski18 ай бұрын
Awesome Paul, loving it, the bigwigs at byd-hq should pay attention and deliver on what we want! Still, best bang for buck EV and now with the right "can-do" mods!!
@Neilhoh34 ай бұрын
Theyre more likely to say fuck off and read the manual, dont pull the fuses and you might get the updates that address the legit complaints you have.
@CubbyTech8 ай бұрын
It's amazing how these 'features' are aimed at the Chinese market. A lot of these are aimed 'new' Chinese drivers, and are somewhat aloof/careless. The sounds and ADAS stuff should be able to be turned off permanently - I assume there will be some 'hacks that may help with this.
@LyndonMain8 ай бұрын
In absolutely no way. All this, especially the fact it resets on restart, are to get ncap ancap etc 5 star. It is the western market that is driving this, locally they don't have it. You are not just wrong, you're entirely backwards. These absolutely should be settings remembered, but this is common to lots of cars because of the safety rating systems we employ, which is silly.
@wcrash93618 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with Chinese market or drivers . In most cars you can turn these off and turn off any sounds too
@compsourcegoogle12848 ай бұрын
You can set it all up in menus to your liking, I guess too many choices for you :)
@vasil74108 ай бұрын
The problem is the car doesn't save your preferences. Apparently due to Euro NCAP regulations.
@internet1558 ай бұрын
I like the honda ev, but they dont sell them here in Australia, but I also love my 5 speed land cruiser, no abs, no automatic anything, just you and the machine.
@Clove_Parma8 ай бұрын
The Honda ev is a good car but terrible value for the spec.
@Cybernetic_Systems8 ай бұрын
Wow, those noises and ADAS are really annoying. Ideally you could disable those features via the OBD port instead of having to pull the fuses.
@lucasberner8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. My question: isn´t it possible to turn off all the anoying things by VOICE CONTROLL? Did You try it? Maybe it is possible..... Greets from Italy
@mogensen848 ай бұрын
If you live in the EU, you're not going to have these issues. I've had my Seal for several days now and doesn't have any of these issues. It sounds like a normal car and only beeps at me one time, if I go above the speedlimit .. That's it.
@AnarchyEnsues8 ай бұрын
I guess you are going to packet sniff the CAN commands and then automate the commands when you turn it on. Adas really is a joke, its in every car because you cant get 5 stars without it. it shouldn't be used at all on local roads. Road design and chaotic driving situations, these little sub 100w adas units have no hope. And the phantom breaking is a massive pain in the ass. I do a lot of highway driving, and it does work very well in that environment, its a more contained environment, less random lane events, its still a dumb system, and you still have to pay attention and react befor it over reacts for you. In my new ford ranger, it has radar crusie control, you change lanes coming up to a red light with crusie control still on... It was foot to the floor accelerate, and then foot to the floor break at the last second once it picks up the car waiting at the lights.. its distance to reconise the car in front is frightening small. Telsas latest isnt much better. Auto steer on local steets in unusable. Its not as great as its raved
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'll get around to the CAN bus at some point.
@heel576 күн бұрын
why did you get this car in the first place?
@TallPaulTech6 күн бұрын
Because it's quicker than walking
@GolLeeMe7 ай бұрын
Overactive ADAS would be so annoying. Pity about the cruise control though.
@accesser8 ай бұрын
Nice work man, agree we should have controls over those annoying sounds, I hope they don't try to get smart and push a software update to detect the fuse removed :P Hopefully we get the smaller byd dolphin in Brisbane soon so I can have a look at one
@frankbjrnsten71898 ай бұрын
Have a Dolphin. The new update has killed all of the sounds. The only thing you need to turn on is online signs. One button. That's it.
@accesser8 ай бұрын
@@frankbjrnsten7189 I'm watching the Dolphin, Hopeful for a gen2, if they add Vehicle-to-Grid or even vehicle to home v2h it would tick all the right boxes for me
@richardliu89988 ай бұрын
It is EU safty standard. These safty settings can be turned off permanently in China. Maybe BYD see OZ as European country.😅
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
Australia always gets the hand-me-downs of other countries.
@dann55157 ай бұрын
how to turned it off permanently without taking the fuse out? I dont wanna hear any sound everytime i indicating the light or keeping lane or even start up the engine when baby is at sleep!
@vesanupponen27277 ай бұрын
EU wants to supervise people, sounds like communism
@ricardougalde47757 ай бұрын
Hello didn’t work on dolphin model I remove de fusible and the sound under 30kph still making me crazy
@americannumber28 ай бұрын
How old are you? 5?
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
5 and a half thank you
@HermanWillems8 ай бұрын
@americannumber2, go learn some CS bro instead of complaining if someone else is 5. What are you 4 ?
@dann55157 ай бұрын
what r ya? 80? still clueless?
@kukuwang75798 ай бұрын
the chinese version allows you to turn off the startup music and change the turning signal sound to a normal one, but i am not sure if the australian version can do the same
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
I've still got more poking around to do.
@yggdrasil90398 ай бұрын
Brand new car and you have to pull the fuses out of the fusebox to disable ADAS lol. 😆 This is a massive pain and actually makes the car more dangerous. Car companies need to be careful, because if ADAS is found to have caused a crash, eg a potentially fatal head-on, then those companies would be liable big time.
@repatch438 ай бұрын
Car companies are doing what your government is REQUIRING them to do, best direct your anger at the appropriate place.
@wolfgangpreier91608 ай бұрын
You know you lose your insurance when you do that?
@TallPaulTech8 ай бұрын
That didn't seem to worry Tesla with the crashes they cause.
@wolfgangpreier91608 ай бұрын
@@TallPaulTech True, Tesla does not care for its customers only to make Elon rich. Right?
@repatch438 ай бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 source?
@SalkoSalcinovic3 ай бұрын
Just bought one of these and it's really annoying that I can't just switch it off without having to disassemble the car. My current car allows me to do it without having to do it every time.
@TallPaulTech3 ай бұрын
I've never looked back. It's totally under my control, and doesn't do any dangerous swerving. It seems accidents caused by these systems don't always get reported as such. It's scary.
@seamillo6 ай бұрын
What if you only pull one of the fuses? Does each fuse control different ADAS features? That could be useful if the annoying stuff is all under one fuse.