I've ordered my AWD and waiting. That acceleration was just too good to pass up on!

I sold my Merc and bought the AWD Performance. No regrets, lovely drive, love everything, accept waiting for OTA to improve ADAS. In China this Q and next, big OTA's taking place bringing ADAS upto level 2+. Hope Seal gets the same.

Interesting observation, and I agree. I have been a multiple Mercedes owner for nearly twenty years, but have been phasing out my ICE cars for EVs, first with a Model 3 SR+ (made in China) and now a Seal dual motor. Other than my 2003 Mercedes CLK, the Seal has probably been the best quality car I have owned. The last Mercedes I bought was a C class, a 2016 coupe. But the quality was nothing like my older 2003 CLK. I have also owned M class cars, great for their day but not as good as the CLK. I wish I never sold the CLK for the newer C class coupe, the later car was quite disappointing. People who are ignorant of the facts laugh when they hear that the Seal can compete with Mercedes, but these people have no idea, really.

Which generation of c class is your c class? I have brand new 2022 a class sedan, i will test drive this awd Seal next week but i am skeptical it will feel better than my a class sedan.

Your BYD is gonna depreciate like a lead balloon!

I feel like I'm missing something. How is it? A Tesla is over 4 grand cheaper. Rear boot in a Tesla is nearly 300 litres more. And I'm not even a Tesla fan. I'm really scratching my head!

Tesla is boring. The Seal has all the Tesla's good qualities but actually looks and feels way better. The build quality and interior are lengths beyond the minimalist Tesla.

Ok. Not really game changing. Plus a a lot more expensive so you'd expect improved materials at minimum. I'm not missing something so. Thanks.

@@niallbennPlus Tesla doesn't have indicator stalks just a button

@@niallbenn I would agree with you in some respects it's maybe not a game changer but its looks and quality seem to be better than the Tesla....I really don't like the removal of indicator stalks....to me that is a game changer (in the opposite way) not in a good way but maybe you would get used to it but I still think it's an accident waiting to happen. Time will tell

Nice.

what price is the all wheel drive version in Thailand ?

@@awdawson6192 Its i,6M baht so around £43,000

US is going to label it as National Security comcern, look me it or not.

I am planning to buy BYD Seal. I read an article from UK saying that when the car is passing rough surface road the driver can feel quite strong vibration on the steering wheel. Is that really the case, please kindly share your experience on this matter.

It's overhyped! And over priced. They will soon come down in price.

Buy Your Dreams..and we'll build your Donjong intercontinental ballistic missiles.

@@bastogne315hehe

China has the right to defend itself. @@bastogne315

zeekr 007 is better

Having driven both the Tesla is the better driver choice - albeit by a fairly small margin. As I mention elsewhere in this thread the Seal has low(er) ground clearance which was unfortunately a dealbreaker for me.

Need to spend more time driving it to compare but first impression very good.

Byd seal often self ignites in China

​@@user-xl2xg3jv5r how old are you?

Thank you! 90s Hondas rock! Always fancied a Prelude from that era.

@@NobbyOnCars I hear that. Like so many cars, you used to see Preludes all the time and one day they all seemingly vanished. A lot were autos which didn't help. Pity. Nice cars. I suppose they didn't have the motorsport connection, the R treatment, nor the now muy importante game/anime tie ins, so weren't "JDM" enough to become 'classics'. The latter is an interesting one, where you see folks being oddly nostalgic about cars(and times) around before they were even born, but became touchstones because of games and anime. Initial D and Toyota twin cams a good example(though we always had a soft spot for them in Ireland). But yeah, dig your content. Always interesting and I usually learn something new. 🙂 That said, if you put me in that BYD, I'd still wonder where's the key, why is it beeping at me and why am I so confused? 😄

Byd seal often self ignites in China

Looks great I think.

V2L feature on the BYD might come handy for various occasions. e.g. emergency situations, camping, use it as power reservoir by load up your home battery when you have shady days with solar panels.

Politics, most certainly.

I am planning to buy BYD Seal. I read an article from UK saying that when the car is passing rough surface road the driver can feel quite strong vibration on the steering wheel. Is that really the case, please kindly share your experience on this matter.

dont have that experience at all. i would say when driving over rough surface, it feels better than the Land Cruiser and Subaru Outback i also own

@@kwu6456 thank you for your sharing

That’s the one! Nice interior colour. Ah I’d have to turn the speed one off, just couldn’t do it.

Ah it’s a joke. New Kodiaq in Aus versus Ire is 20k or something

@@NobbyOnCars ouch

Slave labour keeps costs down.

In china the seal base model price 23K euro😂

@user-kq7gc6yo2r😂😂😂 euro tariff to keep BYD out

Nowhere hopefully!

@@Quagmire925 why is that? do you not like them? Despite that they are being sold at Charles Hurst Boucher Road Belfast

I would too. Too much of a magnet for muppets sitting on your bumper.

@@NobbyOnCars That's it. Don't want to be challenged at the lights by every F10 530d, which is a great car BTW.

Why? It's just a tag like M or AMG after all...

@@janverbanck People think its the RWD slow one. Park an M3 and a 320D M sport beside each other, see which one gets the attention. I have no regrets, it's just a sticker.

Busy enough on the inside for some, can see that!

Wait for a few months the price will go down I am sure

Yeah I don’t see the point myself

Speeds aren't rigidly enforced in ireland. Go to UK, a sea of hidden speed cameras

I know the UK is saturated by speed cameras but our govt plans to catch up with average speed cams etc. Already, sneaky tactics are used and many are fined for minor breaches. Mobile cameras are often deployed where limits are needlessly low. The final week of a month us lethal for this. They deny financial/detection quotas apply but we all know all govts will do anything for easy money and call it key performance indicators.

They changed it relatively recently

Not sure people will see it like that in 2024 though 🤣

I've got no problems with the turn sigs being on the right. It's always been that way in Aus. Your problem stems from driving converted left-hand drive vehicles for right-hand drive.

@@helenbarton4910 and what side of the road do you drive on in Australia?! Exactly.

@@NobbyOnCars We drive on the left here in Australia.

Yeah, and of the year. Get this instead.

@@NobbyOnCars I'll show her your comment, cheers! 😂👍🏼

Legroom versus EX30 I’d have to refresh my memory, it doesn’t feel vast in the back but the front seats were quite far back when I filmed the rear. I wouldn’t say the Volvo is much smaller if at all though. I think Volvo have managed to squeeze a lot into the cabin space.

I can answer this as saw both on Saturday, the EX30 is very very tight in the back. The seal is huge in comparison for the rear space. I’m even going to get my deposit back in the EX30 based on the rear space. I’m handing back my leased Polestar 2 in June after 3 years and think the Seal is going to be my replacement. Only biggest criticism is the Seal has no 1 pedal driving. I’m going to miss that in the P2

I'm 180cm and can site behind my driving position with heaps of space in front.

​@@ateiviz& if driver's seat is raised bout 1/2 way rear passengers can stretch feet under it but thigh support is poor as bench is low, not nearly high as MY one

@@peterb5113 I test drove the Polestar 2 before buying the Seal and the whole car feels small, even smaller than my Model 3. Also, I thought the OPD in the Polestar was nowhere near as smooth as in the Tesla.

Ext: Atlantis Grey, Int: Ocean Blue

As pointed out in the video, the front is very low indeed.

@@NobbyOnCars Thanks for pointing out that the front is quite low. VERY few reviewers (only 1 Australian reviewer out of a few dozen I viewed and read) mentioned that the car is quite low to the ground. A very important point as I discovered!

Don’t think so. Seal U coming which is an SUV type yoke.

Yeah would add a little more practicality

Amazon, Ali express etc have mud flaps for the seal. Easily added.

Completely agree this and the Ioniq 6 have missed a serious trick leaving out the liftback. The ID.7 has it and the difference is night and day. I'm well aware ID.7 is a lot bigger and €15k more expensive. Wake up VW your cars in Ireland are stupidly over priced.

I think it'll convert some people from SUV/ crossovers to saloons, it's that good a drive & 500km range...

They have both the Seal U and the Sea lion 07 models that are larger Suv's than the Atto 3 for those not looking for a sedan, whether they come to Ireland in the near future is anyone's guess.

Better hope Trump doesn’t get in so !

I don’t think American politicians are going to allow BYD entry into your country because Huawei is an example, which is national security concern.

And a SW.

It’s all covered in the video if you bother to watch it which is why I assume you’re on KZfaq looking up BYD Seal

@@NobbyOnCars oh ok i had to stop watching bc i got busy but i will continue watch it thanks for the answer

Could see all of it

@@NobbyOnCars excellent 👌

Just gotta turn off the speed sign setting, apart from that, what’s their issue with it do you know?

@@NobbyOnCars screen keeps rotating. Loads of audible alarms. Anytime you turn it off it’s back on when u get back in

@@bruts82could have been a demo model..I know they set to always have them turn back on by default. But they can be permanently disabled in your own car.

​@@bruts82It is because of EU regulations. All new cars in 2024 will need to have warning chimes that turn on every single time you start the car. Like speed warning etc.

You are right, ex Audi design head egger is BYD design head now

What’s the dealer saying?

He's saying they are waiting on a software update from BYD and it's all of Europe not just Ireland

What dealer is this?

BYD MSL North Dublin

@@user-fq2wl8ju1j know someone who picked one up from there two weeks ago and has the app up and running so there must be something in the waiting for an update line…

Yet most EV owners I know never charge anywhere but at home. Especially with Tesla as they are so efficient / long range.

Tesla vision is a joke and functional indicator stalks would be helpful. BYD supply the LFP batteries to Tesla. Tesla supercharger network is being opened up to non Telsa EV's. I believe that BYD sold more cars than Tesla. Rome is falling.

As 98% of my charging is done at home, I have no interest in the Tesla charging network. But for other reasons the Model 3 is a better choice from my evaluation of both. Even with the U.S. centric move to remove the indicator (and) wiper stalks, which wasn't a positive OR necessary move, IMHO! 😉

I heard of someone getting strong money but it was a couple of years old 530e

Crazy to trade in. With a little work you can sell privately and make a few thousand. Trade-in is for lazy or rich people. If ur too busy - make the time.😀

No. Asia, Australia, NZ, Europe, south america

Job done 😎

I was and still is a fan of the Seal. But had to order a Model 3 due to the Seal being too low for my use. But it was a great car to drive. Not better than the new Model 3, but very, very close, with the seats being more comfortable that what Tesla supply.

Depreciation and new cars ain’t a new phenomenon buddy !

Agreed, however, 30% depreciation in 10 months is crazy! I change my car every 2 years never experienced anything like that. Next car definitely not an EV.

Buying a new car is never a good investment but that's a nasty hit all the same

If you bought a car in the last year then you bought at the top of the market, everything was overpriced. Supply is now catching up with demand and so prices are falling.

What percentage of the target customer cares about fractions of a second difference in acceleration, you think? And how many of them care about comfort, battery longevity and build quality?

I'm no BMW fan and don't have one, but a sweeping statement to suggest BMW 'and other German cars' are 'done'. Far from it!

@@PixelVibe42 You should expand your knowledge a bit more and learn about what rules are being implemented in China to overtake the world just like they have done with the rest of the consumer products. Don't believe me? Just look around you, everything is made is China and Chinese cars are coming as well!!!!

I hope hating makes u feel accomplished

Only drove this for an hour, not in the car until a few more months unfortunately

@@NobbyOnCars your off the hook so 😉

Eh

Comfort, Battery tech and build quality. Those are what differentiate Seal from M3.

Seal AWD has to be compared with the TM3 LR, and the TM3 LR is $4k more expensive than the Seal AWD

@@Espakho The RWD Model 3 uses the same LFP battery as in the Seal. Although slightly smaller in output.

Wait for a few months the price will go down a lot

@@dewfend I know but I think they missed a trick by not releasing under the model 3 to begin with.

I think they know too and that's why they're already talking about a cheaper model to come.

Well you don't have to be in a whit* pow*r group to own the byd like a Tesla. The owner doesn't tweet either. But yeah, they should do closer to the China pricing.....28k u s. Starting price, 20% under m3 single motor.

Mate I'm no fan of Tesla. I just think this is not a home run especially with the pricing. I own an MG from china. China are not exactly shining lights. BYD as with all Chinese brand is well supported by their government.

@@niallbenn oh that's right, China's been in the middle east killing everyone for the last 30 years and has 800 military bases outside the USA. I forget China's foreign policy is all based on military might and not trade - oh wait, maybe I have that backwards. And you're not from the USA but let's be real, all Europeans are the usa's bitch. Kudos on the mg but those only sell well because it's a British name even tho everyone knows it is Chinese. Very strange phenomenon..

Seal AWD has to be compared with the TM3 LR, and the TM3 LR is $4k more expensive than the Seal AWD

People with half decent paying jobs.

Who said China don't have human rights??

@@JIMMY-nz1ld Are you living in a cave?

@@asmeekens2942 how well do you know China? Have you been there?

@@JIMMY-nz1ld I was in China for 6 years!

I am pretty sure this guy's never been to China before and .... He try to imagine how China look like 😂😂😂

Maybe owners of Seals like to actually drive their cars. Autopilot is for Airbus!

Have fun in the court defending why you've got your hands off the wheel 😂

@@ateiviz depends on the country FSD isn’t illegal and it has no laws surrounding it either same worh driverless vehicles its not regulated.

@@NobbyOnCarsno byd drivers are just cheap.

@@pkerry12 but Teslas cost less?

Seal AWD has to be compared with the TM3 LR, and the TM3 LR is $4k more expensive than the Seal AWD. ICE cars with the same quality and power are $100k more expensive.

Ireland is a small country. There is absolutely no need for ranges of that level here and home charging removes the need for the charging network almost entirely.

not everyone lives in Dublin where access to ev chargers exist. If you lived in west Donegal there is no EV that you could trust to go to Dublin airport on a cold wet windy morning, park it for a 2 week holiday and have enough battery range to drive home at night after your holiday. Chinese EVs do not have repair centres or spare parts easily available. In 10 years time EVs may become worthwhile but not now

@@noklekpui you’re right, not everyone lives in Dublin. Like me. I don’t live in Dublin. Home charging will give you enough to get anywhere in the country on a single charge. And if you’re going from Donegal to Dublin there are plenty of charging options en route and in Dublin to charge the battery so you can get home.

If I had just driven 800km, I would need more than 5 minutes rest before getting back in and doing another 800.

Better nothing made in China for you. Good luck for that.

Just another typical racist 😂😂😂

They’re literally head to head with each other 🤦🏼

Agreed, but the software isn't there yet. Also, they want to work with tesla due to their supercharger network. Just give it a year :) I did see matt Watson did a drag with both finishing exact same time. I've a family of 4 boot space matters. Handling due to its weight it tricky as well. I'm sticking with both my Teslas for now Model 3 & X

You got a point with the software, but it is getting an overhaul as we speak. Telsa SC network is being opened up for every EV. @@Omi2cool4ya

@@NobbyOnCars Agreed, but for a VERY valid reason (for me) the Seal is unfortunately not suitable.

If you’re as old as me it’s come full circle, in the days of ICE and manual gear shift they were always on the right so as you could indicate while changing gear. I got used to the left pretty quickly with modern cars so imagine it won’t take long to go back 👍🏻

I got the hang of it by the end of my 30 mins or so in the car

@@peterb5113 I remember some Jap imports had them back in the day (most likely still do)

@@NobbyOnCars At least they are there I suppose, unlike a certain rival car

I turned the wiper on once on my test drive and that's all it took to readjust. Not a big deal.

It is, BUT, not better IMO.

Nobody stop you from buying Tesla 😂😂😂 , just go ahead

I have both a Model 3 and a Seal and I can safely say your summary is fairly biased: The Model 3 RWD has a similar charging rate, courtesy of both having an LFP battery (which is the only battery chemistry I would buy). This eliminates the Model 3 LR for me. Besides, most EV owners would charge at home, which means DC charging is not as important as some people make out. The camera preview is useless because you have to took at the centre screen, when you should be looking out of the side windows. I have never used it in my Tesla. One Pedal Driving is great, but it's not that big a deal. The seal does have lift off regen, it just won't bring you to complete stop. But the other factor to consider is that the Seal brake pedal will also charge the battery, and only engage friction brakes to completely stop. The Model 3 brakes are friction brakes only. The trunk volume on the Model 3 seems to be overstated in the specs and understated for the Seal. No idea how this happened. I don't find much difference in practical use. I can get similar efficiency in my dual motor Seal compared to my single motor Model 3 RWD, around town, if I drive carefully. I have no idea how the BYD does it, maybe it runs off the front motor only in such situations. You are also overlooking the main reason I will never trade my current Model 3 for the Highland - no stalks.

You’re forgetting… some people just don’t want a Tesla

​@@NobbyOnCars if you compare a Seal with a M3 you need to talk about facts not emotions. I just report about facts what I notice after a weekend ride with a seal comparing to my M3 RWD. Seal has buggy software too and NO route planing (you need to add charging stations by yourself). Just let the people know what they get not what they want to see despite @vail7410: charging curve from seal is not flat. M3 RWD has a peak to 177kWh until around 20%... around 50% still over 100kWh = never longer then 30 minutes from 10 to 80% even in cold weather!!! because M3 has battery preconditioning... seal = NONE!

For a new brand in Ireland, this car needs to be CHEAPER than the M3 and other competitors. The bells and whistle gadgets don't count for much when all is said and done. 45k is too steep at this stage of the game. Ps.. I wish this presenter would stop gushing over silly little things and get real about the obvious problems with BYD, like annoying sounds, distracting warning & immature software.

@@quadplay2591 immature software? Like a whoopee cushion in a Tesla? Annoying sounds? Like a traffic speed monitor that every single new car has these days? You’d want to broaden your experience of automotive offerings in 2024 and you might then be in a position to criticise that kinda stuff. There’s no more warnings on this car than you’ll find in a new BMW, Audi, Kia, Hyundai or many more.

What’s the name of the bridge you live under buddy?!

It's a high street bridge, sir. @@NobbyOnCars

the awd Seal has full leather interior, so I doubt that very much

His is talking about his own car 😂😂😂