I left the NAR 4 years ago

Please pray for my brother who Has been involved in the Nar for many years now. Thank you!

Yikes! That is profoundly disturbing! 😬 I hadn't the foggiest.

Your research is deep, brother. The details and information presented is overwhelming. Kansas City is living this.

I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your work! The names you drop never end, most I have never heard of. My name list to research this stuff gets longer. How am I going to get anything else done around here...lol.🤪 Thanks again, John

TONGUES IS A SIGN TO THE UNBELIEVING

Amazing research. You are connecting all the dots we need to see in order to understand our world.

Christ - " Know ye not The Lord Thy God is in you." ... " it is NOT ME but The Father IN ME that does the work." God - "As ye do unto another ye have done unto me."

Yikes! I had no idea that he pushed segregation.

Excellent work - thank you!

This channel is top shelf good!!! Thank you for your research

I am dealing with a I think hundreds of people including young women too who think they are Apostles or Prophets today !

Listening to it right now. So far it is accurate. I studied under Wagner at Fuller in the early 90's. Happy to answer any questions here.

Had no idea Fuller had roots related to William Branom

Deus é maior sempre

It is so crazy that its hard to believe...😢 madness

✅ interesting

Is it me, or is this guy looking like Colonel Sanders from KFC?

Really appreciate this expose of C Peter Wagner - who I only knew formerly as simply a Fuller professor and assumed he was some sort of scholar instead of this pathetic Antichrist piece of s*** Now the scripture that a good tree brings forth good fruit but an evil tree brings forth evil fruit makes perfect sense - what came forth from Wagner was horribly Twisted, I should have known there was a problem somewhere

Yea i have never met one that called themselves an apostle or prophet meet the biblical requirements of a prophet or apostle, prophet has to prophecy 100 correct every time all the time cannot be wrong not one time, apostle is one that was eye witness to the baptism of Jesus and his resurrection and hand pick by Jesus. 1 corinthians 15:8, was was the last one even he said he was one born out of due season stated last of all he was seen of paul, very clear that the apostles office was closed . C peter wagner was a false teacher great video

John Wimber was a Quaker when he got in the religion business..Wimber a Freemason was in Nixon's Blue Lodge and church

Wow - someone Mike Bickle and ihop are affiliated with

I can't help but think, NAR is setting up to be the religious arm of djt's return to power.

I am not trying to be disagreeable. I know that John Wimber founder of the Vineyard was Quaker before becoming envangelical then Vineyard. I am not so sure that Wagner was a Quaker do you have the research on this as I am sure that Wagner was from another Proestant denomination.

Seems the man was right.

So Wagner was a racist? Wow, that's dynamite... but I guess he learned from Branham.

I don’t know how this popped up but I found myself here and watched the video. This is an interesting topic. I listened to it twice and I don’t hear racism. I heard that people groups matter. Culture matters. And the civil rights movement, as a whole, this Wagner guy saw, caused blacks to attempt to become like whites rather than to become free blacks. It was particularly noticeable to Wagner in regards to churches because of what he had seen during his missionary work with other cultures. I have read missionary stories of old and learned how much white Americans actually changed the “heathens” to become like *them* along with their acceptance of the gospel. To those people groups I bet Jesus was a white American. And it shouldn’t have been that way. We can do better. Wagner even called the whites arrogant. I am hearing culture matters even to God, and to Wagner. Jesus didn’t come to make us all like each other but Christ*like born again from above. I know America was supposed to have her own culture of assimilation. but maybe that wasn’t best for each individual church which make up the whole of the body of Christ. (Which btw should be a culture of her own. In the world but not of it) And Wagner’s description of how segregated or integrated churches should be, he based on micro societies. It’s like Paul’s letters to the churches he started. Church at Corinth was not the church at Philipi etc. they would have been different people, perhaps even different pegan cultures depending on their gods, temple(s), trading routes, geographical range etc. I mean, Athens! Was any other place like Athens? Neither Jew nor Greek, slave or free verse is in reference to how we humans lord over others. We are all one meaning we are all of the same value, equal. It doesn’t mean that one culture gets eaten up by another but that both are transformed by Christ just as each individual comes from their own “place” and is changed by the gospel. I think that’s what Wagner was seeing long before others did… or maybe still don’t? Maybe this is a deeper reason why many blacks still don’t feel equal (free) and why many whites are still arrogant. “We have not so learned Christ.”” This is what I understood from the video. Did I make it up? Lol --who am I? A random white lady. Don’t know the channel, or the Wagner guy, I don’t agree with NAR, I attend a regular church in my town because it is my town (micro society) and I am a believer in Jesus.

Good grief. I’m only just starting to learn about Peter Wagner and this is just awful. The book Bad Faith by Randall Balmer also shows how racism and preserving segregation were key motivators in activating the evangelical voting bloc in the 70s and 80s.

Good info but the title of the video is unfortunately a misnomer if not deceptive. There is no hidden agenda shown in this video. Rather what is shown is a clearly spelled out incorrect view of race relation in the Church of Christ. And the very fact that the video says that Wagner view was resisted and never got its way, shows that this might have just been the indiosyncratic view of Wagner instead of that of the New Apostolic reformation as a mouvement.

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I find this information particularly disturbing and problematic. I have been part of a local, independent charismatic church, co-pastored by an interracial couple. They are both senior pastors in their own right, not just nominally. My female pastor, who is White, received her doctorate of ministry through the Wagner Institute, about 15-20 years ago. One of the foundations of the Church is to "know no man after the flesh", according to 2 Corinthians 5:16, and Galatians 3:28, which states that "...there is neither Jew nor Greek, bond nor free, male nor female, for we are all one in Christ Jesus". We do have an integrated, though small congregation which is primarily White, with a few Black families, and one Hispanic family. This being said, my pastors would never stand for this nonsense. We are not a NAR church, but we fo believe in the gifts and manifestations of the Holy Spirit, and the present day ministries of the prophet and Apostle, although they are not the same as the offices occupied by the writers of New Testament Canon.

Bendita sea la memoria del Apóstol Peter Wagner

JOHN, I NEED HELP ON SOME RESEARCH AND I WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY YOU A FEE TO FIND THIS FOR ME BECAUSE IT RELATES TO MY ELDERLY PARENTS BEING DECEIVED BY THIS CULT. ONE OF THE FALSE PROPHETS IN MY FAMILIES CHURCH IS CONNECTED TO SEE PETER WAGNER, AND ONE OF HIS STUDENTS. ANYWAY, I WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH THAT THEY ARE CONNECTED TO JIM JONES AND THE THING THAT I CAN'T FIND THAT I FOUND ONCE BEFORE was see Peter Wagner saying that he is connected to the ladder ramp and that they made some mistakes "all pioneers do" this video is very difficult for me to find now and I have been looking for over a year to re-find it can you please help me it could really help me to help my elderly parents. Thank you.