Engine Runup of the Fairchild C119 Flying Boxcar N8501W at Palmer, Alaska on June 12th 2023.
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@glennhargrove32997 ай бұрын
I worked on these at Danang in 1969-70. I think they were H models. They were gunships with the jets under each wing. The avionics and fire power in them were worth lots more than the airframes. Fascinating old birds.
@cheese_wheel247 ай бұрын
Cool
@shenmisheshou70027 ай бұрын
These were still in service with the Marine Reserves in 1973, though they were being retired. I was in a regular that worked at NAS Glenview supporting the reserve units. We had an A4 squadron, a UH1 squadron, and the C119s. I had some flight hours in the 119. It was a nice ride but it was a total anachronism to see this WWII twin radial roaring down the runway.
@timmayer87237 ай бұрын
Flight line mech. In air guard unit Southern California. 146 cargo sq. C-97 G P&W R-4360 4000 HP each loaded on take off. A dog to maintain / loud
@user-hd1oy9ry9e3 ай бұрын
Flew Korean War troop and supply drops.
@jamesp73913 күн бұрын
I remember these and many other types at Andrews AFB, in the late 50s-early 60s. Before the Air Force went all jet. Really enjoyed those days as a kid. Thanks for posting
@Nathan93Baker7 ай бұрын
There used to be a yellow one piloted by Cpt. Baloo from squadron Tailspin. One hell of a pilot, flew it like a fighter jet to deliver his cargo. They sure don't make them like they used to.😋
@mmichaeldonavon7 ай бұрын
Seeing this 119 revived a couple of memories for me. As an "Instrument tech." I only worked one job on the 119 - that was to remove and replace a Torque Oil Pressure transmitter. The sensor was mounted on the nose case of the engine (I think it was a P&W R4360). There were beaucoup Adel clamps from the nose case back to the transmitter mounted on the fire wall. And, I made one free fall parachute jump (a fun jump with about 20 other guys) from a 119, over Hondo, Texas. We took off from Kelly AFB, San Antonio with the "clam shell doors removed. I still have an 8x10 pix of the exit. We got out of the airplane at 8,500 feet. Was a FF of just over 30 seconds. Thanks. MSgt. USAF Ret. PCA/USPA B-6370.
@watsopd118 ай бұрын
Interestingly another C119 in background complete with jet pack on top, awsome bird.
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Look up c119 boxcar port lions and youll see that one with the jet on top barely make it out of port lions strip near kodiak
@fw14217 ай бұрын
Wow,I thought these were all in the scrapyard long ago. Seeing one airworthy is wonderful,and another right next to it on the ramp……fantastic!
@loupcityairservice974011 ай бұрын
So glad we could stop and visit with you if you ever need help I know two boys willing to help
@tomottmar75548 ай бұрын
I would be max proud to see either fly again and would love to invest in them!
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Both those boxcars live at palmer airport in alaska and the one is airworthy stop by if johnny is there he loves giving tours.
@shenmisheshou70027 ай бұрын
I was in the Marines (regular) supporting three reserve squadrons at NAS Glenview in 1973. The reserve transport squadron was still flying the C119, though they were being retired. We had some of the last C119s in service. I have some flight time in them and it was a nice flying old bird. Because they were reserve airplanes, they did not fly much, so mostly they were flown with minimal cargo. The longest flights I remember were Chicago to Islip NY (where there was a broken down C119 that we were flying a replacement engine out for) and a run to Florida for a couple of pallets of test equipment. It was funny to see people's faces on the tarmac when the C119s taxed up.
@farmerphil7 ай бұрын
Stationed in Korea 77- 78 we were still flying them got several rides to TDY duty stations. Watched a senior pilot do a very impressive 4 point barrel roll. Was something to see.
@shenmisheshou70027 ай бұрын
@@farmerphil Wow, I did not know anyone was flying them past the Marines and Navy. I don't know how I would feel about being in a C119 making a roll of any kind.
@farmerphil7 ай бұрын
Marines and ROK air force believe they were phased out by 1978 or 79 and there DC-3 (C-47) aircraft replaced by C-130s. It was the best barrel roll I have ever seen done in that type aircraft a sight to see. My Father did many parachute jumps from them in the mid to late 1950s when we were in Germany. I have photos of himself and company. Lots of now vintage airplanes and helicopters in service in Asia depending on area. I can still hear the sound of cold starting a radial. engine most sounded like they were going to come apart till they warmed up. LOL.
@P61guy617 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
If you are ever in alaska go to palmer airport if johnny os there he loves giving tours.
@jonathan.westerling5 ай бұрын
Wonderful to see these birds being preserved! Hope you folks can be honored for this achievement. Very impressive work.
@DmitryGTX8 ай бұрын
Since I saw the movie Flight of the Phoenix when I was little this plane became my favorite, and researched and up to where there are about 2 capable to fly (I hope I'm wrong and that there are more), it would be a dream to see one (sorry for my bad english)
@gcrauwels9417 ай бұрын
The movie had the C-82 Packet. Similar but earlier version.
@DmitryGTX7 ай бұрын
@@gcrauwels941 That family of airplanes looks very good, Speaking of the movie, between the one from 60s and the one from 2005, the one from 60s is much better, everything was fine with the 2005 one but the script of the film and the director were horrible
@strenggeheim66727 ай бұрын
Der Flug des Phönix. 👍🏻
@nicholasmarino17337 ай бұрын
Hi, I was flight engineer on the C119 for 4 years back in the 50"s and 60's. I never had a flight problem with this bird. I guess I was very lucky!!!
@davef.23297 ай бұрын
She was almost new back then.
@adriaanboogaard85719 ай бұрын
Great old tough as nails Bird. I wish I could go for a ride.
@bristleconepinus23787 ай бұрын
I worked around one of these aircraft in Alaska in the late 60's. It seemed like every time a mechanic opened up the engine cowling something would fall out.
@captaincrunch85237 ай бұрын
About 1000 hrs on the G as a flight mech . All with 3350-89A engines Aeroproducts props . All over the US and worked lotsa jumps at Benning . Good bird and good times . Those props were like a fine tuned violin . Ha !
@kevbaxter7938 Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@PapaDutch7 ай бұрын
That's a beautiful old war horse ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@petesellers16947 ай бұрын
The reason the prop turns so much before engine start ( count 20 blades ) before ignition on is to insure the engine is not hydro-locked. After flying B47s with SAC on active duty I joined the Calif AirGuard at Hayward. They flew C119C ( R 4360 engine ) in an Air Commando squadron. Good flying aircraft and a great X wind airplane. One flight was to pick up a Curtis Jenney in Iowa and fly it to the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs. After landing we had to wait until it got dark and cooled off enough for the density altitude allowed us to safely take off and fly back to Hayward. The only time I lost an engine was flying out of Hayward with my older brother, active duty 82nd AB paratrooper on board just for a ride. We landed straight ahead into Oakland and my brother got off, called his wife to get a ride home and NEVER rode with me again. Pete
@scuddrunner17 ай бұрын
Thats funny! A lot of B-47's lost their wings when they did the pull-up maneuver after launching the "bomb." What else did you fly?
@jopac47427 ай бұрын
I was at Hayward 69 to 75 as flight line mechanic but on mostly Helo.
@chuckpetersen2467 ай бұрын
Had a ride in one from Bethel to Anchorage in Alaska.
@robertgolden10807 ай бұрын
I always wanted to fly one. Fantastic airplane. Awesome video.
@skyblazer91377 ай бұрын
Under powered but it flew. We had these babies in Korea.
@scuddrunner17 ай бұрын
My dad flew the AC-119 version out of Lachburn AFB all the way to Phang Rang VN in '69 to '70.
@grampageorge34078 ай бұрын
When I was a kid you could see them flying out of the airport all day.
@NormSimpson-iw5jr7 ай бұрын
I grew up with Boxcars. I've always had a special glow around them. Great aircraft and fun to fly.
@steveparsons63247 ай бұрын
I worked on these birds (R4Q2s) in 1969 when I came back from Vietnam. Interesting old aircraft.
@robertyaffe47397 ай бұрын
My first assignment out of pilot training in 1970 was to a C-119 squadron at Richards-Gebaur AFB in Kansas City. Was there about 6 months to get experience and then went to C-119 gunships in Vietnam. I remember that the engines leaked so much oil that we did rock paper scissors to see who would do pre-flight inspection on the engine wheel wells. Always had a old flight jacket and hat in case I lost. Old saying was "fill it up with oil and check the gas"
@ritchiesokol10617 ай бұрын
USAF- I get it. Mainly worked trainers.
@ChainDragGONE7 ай бұрын
Agree, I was at RG 71 to 72 strange that I actually moved to KC later in life. Did you ever go to I70 speedway. That area is a great part of the USA.
@JohnMoore-xf5wy6 ай бұрын
Ain't no oil ON it, ain't no oil IN IT!😅
@robertluisi51267 күн бұрын
@@ritchiesokol1061000😊😊😊😊
@farmerbrown37687 ай бұрын
I remember seeing one in NhaTrang belonging to “AirAmerica”. 1971
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
This is my friends boxcar, ive been lucky enough to start it up, it used to be a workhorse here in alaska but various people worked hard to put a stop to it through an act of congress. If i ever win the lottery im gonna pay johnny to let me get my type rating in it.
@terrytytula7 ай бұрын
First plane ride I ever had, my dad was in the air force and got us a hop on the plane.
@Gee44Bee7 ай бұрын
Great video I love this aircraft would love to see it restore and flying
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Its airworthy right now just too expensive to fly, the owner maintains it by himself out of pocket and like most aircraft owners we dont have a lot of money.
@TractorMan1047 ай бұрын
Anyone else see the Boxcar in the background at the 4 minute mark? The one with the JATO on top?
@williammullis19137 ай бұрын
It's not JATO, it is actually a jet engine. These were approved STC's allowed and were on acft used in firefighting.
@chuckpetersen2467 ай бұрын
Yah, gives you a. Boost.
@TomPauls0077 ай бұрын
yup - turbine, not rocket.
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Look up c119 boxcar port lions and theres a video of it barely making it out of a strip where they had to put it down after losing an engine
@clydebennish21066 ай бұрын
i got to do a little work on one that belonged to everts air fuel in fairbanks... ours had a gas turbine engine on top. that was back in the early 90s. we had c-46s, dc-6s, caribou, lance, p-140, and an old Curtis robin(?) on floats. i liked working there but the pay was so low i lived in a canvass wall tent on the tanana river nearer to north pole and was starving to death. my camp was next to the midnight sun remote control flying field. those were hard days.
@ChrisFerLOL10 ай бұрын
Built in my hometown! Is she airworthy??
@flyship7 ай бұрын
Super !!!!
@fredwood14907 ай бұрын
I was stationed at Rosey Rhodes, back in 69, when they called in all the boxcars from the Caribbean area, into retirement. They came for days! Every runway and every taxiway was lined with them and there may have been more I didn't see. It was amazing! I had no idea there were so many of them and in just this one area. I grew up seeing them in news reels and movies and on TV. It was kind of sad, but they were pretty tired by that time. I think a bunch went on to serve in south America but most went to the scrap yard. I was seeing history unfolding.
@DomZa1007 ай бұрын
awesome
@JohnMoore-xf5wy6 ай бұрын
Made my first five jump school jumps from these at Ft. BRAGG in 1961. Ride down to Panama and back in one in 1962. Great airplane!
@alangeddes2686 ай бұрын
All five jumps at Ft Benning from them back in '68. Had one blow an engine just as take off roll started.
@bobsmalser83047 ай бұрын
Airborne School aircraft. A nice, soft jump out of these. The body shape blocked most of the prop blast.
@leokimvideo5 ай бұрын
I can't believe this is airworthy
@michaelpass21767 ай бұрын
I use watch these birds fly out PDX when I was a young g lad
@tractorsold17 ай бұрын
Fairchild built these in Hagerstown, MD. The Hagerstown Aviation Museum has a couple of them. One of them was made airworthy enough to get a ferry permit, and flown into Hagerstown. That was on record, when I visited last summer, as he last flight of a C119.
@ps-ic8pm7 ай бұрын
Yep, my brother John Seburn is president of the museum and told me at Thanksgiving that their visitor center should be open next month.
@ritchiesokol10617 ай бұрын
Would love to see it. Rich S. U SAF 82-85
@tractorsold17 ай бұрын
@@ritchiesokol1061 Museum is not usually open, but will make appointments for groups. I went when they arranged an open house for the public, I think it was father's day.
@ax01adventures867 ай бұрын
I thing the one in the background was abandoned/stranded for years at Port Lions on Kodiak. It had a jet engine on top of the fuselage.
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Thats correct, the video is on youtube of it barely making it out of port lions after the engine overhaul.
@mikemcc51496 ай бұрын
Wow that's some massive Main Gear.
@terryhill5457 ай бұрын
While I was in the USAF we had a c-119 that had been flying through a hail storm.It was beat up so badly it had to be junked.We used it for crash fire training.
@thomasisland17 ай бұрын
"I flew the best soldiers in the army long before I idolized the sunflower aircraft" - A remark from C119
@kevindelaney19516 ай бұрын
As a kid I saw these flying operationally out of CFB Trenton ON Canada in the late 50s & very early 60s. I remember the excitement when they were replaced by Hercs.
@kustje6 ай бұрын
The flying Boxcar, there were also stationt here in Koksijde in Belgium many years ago.
@miketobin23247 ай бұрын
I think I saw one of these get cut up in a movie and rebuilt into some kind of Pheonix. It flew out of the desert as a totally different machine. Jimmy Stewart was the pilot, did a great-again job!
@scuddrunner17 ай бұрын
That was a C-82, they doo look alike.
@greatmacnut7 ай бұрын
C119 was used in the awful remake of Flight of the Phoenix starring Dennis Quaid (2004?). @@scuddrunner1
@SSgt-6 ай бұрын
My late Father-in-Law was a crew chief on the 119 during the Korean War. He had a lot of memories, some good but others not so.
@steverichards37397 ай бұрын
My dad flew these with the California air national guard 129th great aircraft!! One mission they flew them from California to Vietnam to turn them over to the south for gunships .
@B1900pilot7 ай бұрын
My Dad flew the 119 in the 50's...Wasn't particularly fond of it, because it was underpowered. I think he flew the C and D models
@LarsDcCase6 ай бұрын
I had a ride in one of these when I was in the Air Cadets when I was about 13 years old.
@aahclem56fiftysix726 ай бұрын
Me too, only it was Boy Scouts.
@RedArrow736 күн бұрын
Just imagine Boxcars with T56's.
@stevenborham15847 ай бұрын
It seems they run each engine breifly withoud some plugs (probably bottom ones) to clear it out (rough pop-da-pop sound 2:05) or lube up some stuck bores. Seen a DC-6 video where they do this with one of the R-2800's.
@anthonylopez-hr6dw7 ай бұрын
I was stationed 1954 Ashiya air base Japan troop carrier sq. During Korean War they brought back body to Ashiya,
@SimonWallwork7 ай бұрын
Some great footage here, of the 'Dollar-nineteen....'
@vimalkumar38156 ай бұрын
Beautiful bird.. packet aircraft..
@martinstovey5559 ай бұрын
Awesome. Im visiting Anchorage and Palmer next April. Ive tried to email the owner but no luck, do you know how I can go about asking for access for photography please?
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Spring through summer johnny is usualy there on weekends working on the plane if you swing by and hes there he loves showing people around the plane.
@navelriver6 ай бұрын
Thar's gold in them thar hills!
@AcapellaNutella64 ай бұрын
Went to LRAFB yesterday and saw one of these on static display. Was just wondering about it. Ex awacs.
@davewood4067 ай бұрын
I'll keep telling my dad's indiscretion of youth story about these planes since he can't. He's 82nd Airborne just before Vietnam was a thing. He and another paratrooper are in the back of one of these having just dropped cargo somewhere, so the back end is off. They decide that sitting on back with legs dangling out of the plane is good fun. Plane banks and they roll to the other side of the plane. He didn't admit to soiling himself but I bet one or both of them did at least a little.
@Johny5707 ай бұрын
Балу из "TaleSpin" (Чудеса на виражах) на похожем летал. Только там амфибия :)
@Warhorse5007 ай бұрын
2:16 Man...that engine's running richer than Bill Gates.
@realityhitsmehardbro7 ай бұрын
And I ain't kiddin' ya.
@ritchiesokol10617 ай бұрын
It's that 100LL man!
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Wont run until fuel runs out the exhaust
@user-yi5mc5lo5c7 ай бұрын
I was a loadmaster on the C119. We called it the flying coffin. We lost an engine about 100 miles from the base. The aircraft was losing altitude fast. We barely made it back. We were at 50 feet when we were a mile out. The interesting part was that we were empty at the time. The engines were turbocompounded 3350's.
Some models got the R-3350-85`s Cyclone. Fairchild used the R-4360`s Wasp Major... 🤠😎
@Mike-012347 ай бұрын
I looked up the registration this one has the R-3350-42 N8501W
@stevemehan72766 ай бұрын
One of the first planes I learned to identify as a small boy living near Tinker AFB in OKC
@albertusdrostable7 ай бұрын
That's a beauty! Is it still airworthy? I would love to see it fly!
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Its airworthy, just very expensive to fuel its been two years since weve put fuel in her so shes getting a bit low from her annual start ups.
@EnterpriseXI4 ай бұрын
Wiki says the Boxcar used R-4360s but the engines on this airplane look like Wright R-3350s
@mytmousemalibu4 ай бұрын
Those definitely aren't 4360's, probably are 3350's
@user-lu4dt8zr4r3 ай бұрын
They switched to the R-3350 in the C-119F because the USAF needed so many R-4360s for the B-36s. I personally haven't seen any vids of 4360-engined F-119s still flying today. I suppose the 4360 is just too complex and also needed for the fire-fifgting Martin Mars flying boat
@olivierpissard65097 ай бұрын
Il ressemble beaucoup au Nord Atlas de chez Breguet Aviation. Les Moteurs à Pistons c est quand même une autre époque.
@markgrunzweig63777 ай бұрын
Do these Wright engines have the power recovery turbines? 1000 less cubic inches than the original 4 row wasps.
@davef.23297 ай бұрын
Yes, PRTs with Bendix pressure carburetors. Had to be pre-oiled prior to start-up if it hadn't been run within the last couple days. I think that's part of what they're seen doing in this video before the engine(s) are actually seen running.
@KPMACHINE17 ай бұрын
Do we plan to see this flying soon?
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Shes airworthy but needs work to pay the outragous fuel bill.
@heartland96a7 ай бұрын
Was hoping to see / hear them using shot gun cartridges, perhaps all that remain are converted to electric start?
@jessphuqette17167 ай бұрын
Looks like a old Air America mule
@user-ct1nv1yb7n10 ай бұрын
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@hypercomms20016 ай бұрын
Definitely going to be The Flight of The Pheonix!
@davef.23297 ай бұрын
Has it been sold and preparing to be ferried somewhere?
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
It lives at palmer airport alaska if you are ever in the area johnny loves giving tours.
@skyblazer91377 ай бұрын
Where is Jimmy Stewart??
@scuddrunner17 ай бұрын
Jimmy Stewart was in the B-36 in the movie SAC.
@skyblazer91377 ай бұрын
He played in Flight of the Phoenix crashed his C-119 in the desert.
@skyblazer91377 ай бұрын
Oh Yeah!@@scuddrunner1
@scuddrunner17 ай бұрын
@@skyblazer9137 Actually it was a C-82 they look very similar.
@maxum967 ай бұрын
What is the plan for this aircraft? Make it a flier again?
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
Shes airworthy right now we just need work for her or someone with deep pockets to fuel her. Its sitting at palmer airport alaska if you ever want to see it, if johnny is there he loves to give tours.
@hipolitocavalcanteflorenci25526 ай бұрын
Esse é o avião do filme, O VOO DA PHENIX !
@micoasters2 ай бұрын
That was a c82 packet
@ericvonp7 ай бұрын
Flight of the phoenix?
@williesmalls28037 ай бұрын
I believe so I was about to say
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
The producers of flight of the phoenix actualy made him an offer on these boxcars but found some for cheaper elsewhere.
@beingofinconceivablehorror18548 ай бұрын
I'm only here to see the size of this aircraft because of Quetzalcoatlus
@mistofoles5 ай бұрын
Can it still fly ? - I'm guessing probably not.
@Warhawknm5 ай бұрын
i was told it was gonna be made flying. very coold
@user-yh6wr1sl4k7 ай бұрын
Интересная машина
@mikewatson497 ай бұрын
Sounds like you need a GPU with a little more current capability or at least HP.
@user-yh6wr1sl4k7 ай бұрын
У него пусковой двигатель? 😮
@davidpersi39077 ай бұрын
Cortaste el video, en la mejor parte que es cuando arranca.
@JustJohn5057 ай бұрын
shes breathing but not flying
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
We gotta find work for her to pay the for her fuel, or a wealthy aircraft enthusiast.
@PeterNGloor7 ай бұрын
engine type?
@gearheaddave96396 ай бұрын
2 × Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20W 28-cylinder air-cooled radial engines, 3,500 hp (2,600 kW) each
@PeterNGloor6 ай бұрын
@@gearheaddave9639 I had kinda thought so. The same ones that were on the Stratocruiser and the Martin Mars AFAIK
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
This one has tge 3350s i help work on this one when i have spare time.
@gearheaddave96396 ай бұрын
@@bjornmclir5015 the Wright R-3350 Duplex-Cyclone?
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
I forget the exact model but its 3350s and has the turbo compounders, i know the owner ill check with him next time im out there.
@smo-guiver83157 ай бұрын
We had a C119 that had been converted into a fire bomber come through the Redding air tanker base one summer when I worked there. It had the dorsal jet engine on top. It was lost later that season when the wings separated from the fuselage, which later led to the USFS airtanker trade-in scandal involving Ronald Reagan's cousin.
@Beechnut9857 ай бұрын
REF
@Mike-012347 ай бұрын
Too bad this one has the R3350-42P&W these only had 2200 HP where the P&W 4360 had 3500HP
@garyyoung40747 ай бұрын
R3350 was made by Wright
@michaelmurray71997 ай бұрын
Later versions of the R-3350 were improved to about 3000-3200hp, mostly thanks to the use of Power Recovery Turbines (PRTs).
@Mike-012347 ай бұрын
@@michaelmurray7199 I just watched a video about PRT amazing engineering. They were able to get so much more power without increasing fuel usage.
@garrittpwl7 ай бұрын
per its registration its engines are 3250
@michaelmurray71997 ай бұрын
@@Mike-01234 “Specific Horsepower” was what they called it.
@neumoi33247 ай бұрын
It was also called the packet.
@nattybumpo71567 ай бұрын
Actually. The Packet was the earlier c82. Very visually similar.
@davef.23297 ай бұрын
PW 2800 powered and smaller and 3 blade props.@@nattybumpo7156
@JohnMoore-xf5wy6 ай бұрын
@@nattybumpo7156 Yep. The Original "flying box car."
@nedmac21163 күн бұрын
Nope Boxcar. Flew them in USAF reserves '67-70. Taken for SEA gunships.
@bcelevators56462 ай бұрын
The plane is still flyable, and they don't even use it.
@angelino47104 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@tlp72227 ай бұрын
Old can.
@caladito7 ай бұрын
Nothing interesting
@raymondedge88896 ай бұрын
Would it have killed you to have a few shots of the inside????
@bjornmclir50156 ай бұрын
If youre ever in alaska stop by palmer airport if johnny is there he loves giving tours of his plane.
@johnzuck61637 ай бұрын
Yes, I remember these as a kid in the 50s flying over the farm sometimes 4-5 at a time. Our farm was at Prince Albert Saskatchewan.