C6 Corvette fuel / gas smell explained.

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C6 Corvette fuel / gas smell explained. This is not a how to video, just a visual explanation of why we corvette owners are having this strong fuel smell coming from our cars.

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@jonharshman6395
@jonharshman6395 5 жыл бұрын
GM Special coverage adjustment 15682 update July 2016 .Condition Some 2007 to 2009 model year Cadillac XLR and 2007 to 2013 model year Chevrolet Corvette vehicles may have a condition where a fuel odor is detected, fuel droplets appear below the left-hand fuel tank with fuel gauge level above 1/2, or a malfunction indicator lamp illuminates due to a leak path in the left-hand fuel pump module flange. Special Coverage Adjustment This special coverage covers the condition described above for a period of 10 years or 120,000 miles (193,000 km), whichever occurs first, from the date the vehicle was originally placed in service, regardless of ownership. For vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders on or after July 25, 2016, are covered by this special coverage and must be submitted using the labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to July 25, 2016, must be submitted to the Service Contract provider. Correction Dealers are to replace the left hand fuel tank fuel pump module. The repairs will be made at no charge
@MrGflan
@MrGflan 5 жыл бұрын
Jon Harshman thanks for this video. Repairing this is beyond what I am capable of. (I’m sure I could break it and get it figured out eventually but don’t want to chance it) I am having a bad fuel smell in my garage with no noticeable leaks on the floor. Sounds like this may be my same issue. 2007 z06. Does this mean if I call the dealer, the coverage adjustment may apply to me? I didn’t want to have to pay a huge price to get this fixed. Thanks.
@pineuffer
@pineuffer 5 жыл бұрын
​@@MrGflan I have the same smell but only after fill up...I have been wondering if its the crossover pipe leaking when both tanks are full. Then when the level goes down there is no more fuel in the crossover pipe. Any ideas on that?
@MrGflan
@MrGflan 5 жыл бұрын
Rhino M. I had Chevy look at it. It was exactly this situation. The “hat” was leaking out fuel. I got it fixed. $1400 ugghh
@pineuffer
@pineuffer 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrGflan The Hat is the flange on top the tank?
@MrGflan
@MrGflan 5 жыл бұрын
Rhino M. Yeah that is it. I talked to a lot of unbiased folks about it. If you get the smell it’s a pretty good chance that is the cause. Whether you want to live with it is your choice. I didn’t like the idea of it being a safety hazard or at the very least having it spit fuel and lose fuel on the road
@TheBrazier815
@TheBrazier815 8 жыл бұрын
no no no thank you for someone that doesn't make videos you did a great job. should do some more
@ThisOldCarChannel
@ThisOldCarChannel Жыл бұрын
Took mine to Chevy here recently. They said my 2013 was covered. There is a national back order on the evap line. I picked my car up until it arrives. Been almost two months and no evap! I do have the paper work telling me this was covered and they are waiting. Oh well. This is something I would NEVER ATTEMPT.
@smilewithsadieb
@smilewithsadieb 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Your video was very clear and explanatory.
@Justone372
@Justone372 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Very good walk through on this issue.
@redrckr1
@redrckr1 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank Ed who posted below. I was afraid to think what was wrong with my C6. Ed posted the Special Adjustment 15682 update. I called GM and Yes, it is ALL covered. AND while talking to GM I found out that the Driver AirBag light staying on is also covered until Dec 8 2020. Special Adj 15643. Get this, took C6 in for oil change last Thursday. Mentioned the air bag light. He told me it was $350 to fix it. Sounds like they were trying to rip me off as they should know this was covered. NOTE: The repair by GM is it remove the harness under your seat and solder/hard wire the two ends. Thus rendering you from ever removing your seat without cutting the wires and soldering them back together.
@Roobsrandomz
@Roobsrandomz 9 ай бұрын
Just bought my c6 today, parked inside my garage and fell asleep for a couple hours inside before work. Came out, and MY GARAGE WITH A FUEL BOMB. One spark could have brought my whole house down, and YES my water heater is located inside my garage as well. It was tremendously bad. I went to work, came outside after a 2 hour maintenance. Car is parked outside with nothing by it. Car SMELLED of gas outside, and inside my car. I am almost 100% positive there is this issue present on this 2009 40k mile example. Calling my service guy ASAP tomorrow morning and bringing car back. Either they fix free of cost, or I am returning the car. (As sad as I am to say. I LOVE this thing)
@TheSlowEcoboost
@TheSlowEcoboost Ай бұрын
Did you keep it?
@terrywix6844
@terrywix6844 Жыл бұрын
My 2007 Z06 (garage trophy) w only 13,380 miles just started to put out a strong gas smell in my garage. Drove it less than 20 miles two weeks ago. Added only 7 gallons of 93 Octane. No signs of leakage. Will take it to a Corvette mechanic for diagnostic. More to follow.
@SQTierHog
@SQTierHog Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting your comment. I have a 2008 ZO6, at 49,000 mi, the smell of gas started. I've never overfilled any of the cars I've owned. My smell happens every time I bring it home. Doesn't matter how much gas is in the tank. I know you posted maybe 12 days ago, if you come across anything if you could reply here I'd appreciate it, and if you don't that's okay, I'm just glad that other people such as yourself are leaving comments.!
@terrywix6844
@terrywix6844 Жыл бұрын
@SQ_TierHog A world certified mechanic who is also a retired lead corvette mechanic from a local Chevrolet Dealership inspected my plastic gas cap and said it was good. He also said that GM used cheap plastic fuel pump sending unit that is faulty and causing the smell. He said the exhaust system had to be removed, remove cross member, remove the transmission in the rear end, remove the gas tank to change the fuel pump sending unit. For $2026.00 I about shit a brick. Fortunately, after I got the car back home, it does not smell like gas anymore. I think I must have nit screwed the cap on correctly. Take off the cap and reinstall to see if that fix the problem.. Good Luck!
@SQTierHog
@SQTierHog Жыл бұрын
@@terrywix6844 thank you! Oh my gosh, all that work! I'll try the gas cap. But, today, I smelled the driver side when well, gas smell, right side, nothing. I fear the worst. I'm very mechanically inclined, but...all that to be pulled? Dunno if I wanna deal with that, I'm 60. Lol. I'm in California, I want to avoid dealers, gonna try and find a Vette mechanic. Never done this, but I'll get a hold of a local Corvette club first, see who they recommend. 2,000 for you, but at least you found a great, trustworthy mechanic! Thank you again, I will pop that gas cap, maybe pull off the wheel-well cover, might get lucky with a leaking hose, lol.
@rmedina1886
@rmedina1886 3 жыл бұрын
Gm had some type of recall a few years ago. My 09 was covered. All is well now.
@edlozano8694
@edlozano8694 6 жыл бұрын
General Motors will not cover repairs under the Special Bulletin. GM stated that it got expired on June 2017 and 120,000 miles.
@flyer469
@flyer469 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting Having the same issue now with my 08. Shop says rear and transmission has to be dropped! like at least a $2,000 job! Looking at what you did, I had some thoughts. I was seriously thinking about cutting an access panel on the rear "trunk floor" in the back to get access to this and either manufacturing a plate to put over once completed, or glueing the cut panel back in place. I have not looked at doing this yet. Your thoughts? I was going to drill some small holes back there and use a bore scope to see exactly where the pump is...what do you think??? thanks!
@davebaer8504
@davebaer8504 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@natedogg9999
@natedogg9999 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏾
@horrorland11
@horrorland11 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, my 2008 is having this issue. Just got the car this year and will be fighting for them to fix it. Wish me luck lol
@RobsterxHD
@RobsterxHD 10 ай бұрын
Any update ? I'm about to drive it till the bastard blows up at this point.
@steez3.
@steez3. 5 ай бұрын
any update?
@horrorland11
@horrorland11 5 ай бұрын
Update: I only tank up 2/3 full and can’t smell anything … Chevy wanted north of 2k for the fix
@mohammedalkhayat7888
@mohammedalkhayat7888 9 жыл бұрын
I'm currently having a fuel smell in my car Pontiac G8 similar to you but it does not make a difference if I fully fill her up I always get the smell especially if I role down the windows while driven and seems to increase as I go faster
@butterflydoze
@butterflydoze 3 жыл бұрын
I’m having fuel pressure issue at the rail I replaced sending unit on passenger side then replaced the pump in driver side I primed and hot jumped fuel relay i hear the pump but it sounds like the pump is pumping gas to the right side instead of the fuel rail do you know what could it be
@SQTierHog
@SQTierHog Жыл бұрын
"You're gonna have to go to church, you're going to be cussing a lot." Love this! I'll say a prayer before I start work! " Dear Heavenly Father... "
@jasonjohnson8281
@jasonjohnson8281 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Have you removed the tanks from a C5? 2004 Z06 20k miles. First year of metal hose. No visible leaks but garage smells like gas after driving. You wouldn’t happen to be the shop in San Antonio would ya?
@jonharshman6395
@jonharshman6395 5 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 2009 c6 base Dec 01.2018. I noticed the fuel odor a few days after parking the car in my garage.The car has just over 1/2 tank of fuel. My car has 28,000 miles and was put into service September 2009. I got lucky. My car is at the local GM dealer.The fuel pump is being replace at no cost to me.
@northeastmotorco
@northeastmotorco 5 жыл бұрын
Man that’s awesome. At the time I made this video, GM was pretty much denying this issue and dealers were selling people complete fuel tanks and basically whacking people upside the head in service. Some guys on corvetteforum had started a thread getting people to file tsb complaints concerning this issue. I was one of them. That thread and this video I had made documenting the issue made it pretty hard for GM to ignore. Not long after, they started sending out those notices that you had posted. Since I had done the work myself and had purchased my part through my commercial account, I felt it would have been more work than it was worth to get my money back on the part. Cost me around $300 if I recall but cost many people thousands before that extension letter was sent out. I’m not bitter about it, but I do wish they would have owned up to it sooner. What’s still frustrating is that it wasn’t just corvettes. I’m a mechanic and see this problem across the GM line. Camaros, cobalts, impala, pontiac g5 and g6, etc all had this same sub par plastic. You walk by a GM vehicle around this era of production and smell gas, this is the problem. I still see it in parking lots often. I feel like we got a good movement going because of the noise we were making about it but GM really didn’t step up as much as they should have. Just enough to squelch the most vocal.
@edlozano8694
@edlozano8694 6 жыл бұрын
On January 2018 I took my C6 to Fiesta Chevrolet in Laredo TX. The dealer repair cost is $2,800.00. General Motors will not cover repairs cost because the special bulletin expired in June 2017 and could not exceed 120,000 miles. I contacted General Motors customer service at 1 800 222-1020 with negative results. Currently my C6 still at the dealership pending repairs. Special Bulletin Number is 15682-03. The issue is the fuel vapor smell in the cabin area. The problem is the primary tank module flange fuel vapor leak. General Motors Customer Service stated that the Special Bulletin is not a Recall Bulletin. Therefore it should had been taken before June 2017 and less than 120,000 miles. Fuel Vapors are dangerous but GM did not showed any concern. They closed my Customer Ticket claim number as no solution.
@northeastmotorco
@northeastmotorco 6 жыл бұрын
That's ridiculous. I was aware that there was a time limit that they were going to extend coverage, but it's pretty sh*tty of them to keep it so short. On the other hand, I'm glad they at least tried... If I were you I would get it to a reputable performance shop in the area and ask them to install the latest Z06 pump. My pump that's in the vid is a Z06 pump. I didn't cover that in the vid though. It's not that I requested a Z06 pump, but the latest update happened to be a Z06/XLR pump. At least that's what that purple tag on the fuel inlet line said.
@redrckr1
@redrckr1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting. You just saved me $2800.!!!!
@camilliadiaz7190
@camilliadiaz7190 Жыл бұрын
Wow! And I never got a recall letter notice about this and it is just happening to mine 😢😢. It’s a 2005 and has only 109,000 miles
@RisitasKEKW
@RisitasKEKW Жыл бұрын
Same thing for me in my ‘08 taking it to Chevy this weekend will let you know
@robmccance
@robmccance Жыл бұрын
Find out anything? My 2010 has the symptoms.
@RisitasKEKW
@RisitasKEKW Жыл бұрын
@@robmccance hey, i had to replace the entire fuel module. luckily i purchased an extended warranty from the dealership and they reimbursed me for the whole thing. $2800 fuel module replacement. hope all is well.
@natenaterson8889
@natenaterson8889 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@northeastmotorco
@northeastmotorco 9 жыл бұрын
If they have to drop the trans and diff etc, then you must have an automatic. If it's a manual it doesn't. I've heard of a few people being able to get it out without dropping the rear (with automatic trans) but I'm not sure if it's true. To get the actual pump out, were you to cut an access panel, would basically necessitate a LARGE cut. In my opinion it's not worth the headache of all that is involved in doing such a job. Remember that you also have another module on the other side that eventually will go out as well (level sending unit) and so your access panel would need to go across the whole rear section. Unless you are a fabricator by trade, I really wouldn't recommend it it. This car is not setup like the 4th Gen F-Body where something like that is pretty doable. After doing this job myself, I'd still rather do it this way than cut up my car and open up that can of worms. I would call up some performance shops in your area that are well versed in Corvettes. I really think they would give you the best price. A general mechanic is typically going by the book rate instead of experience.
@st0l3nmuscle15
@st0l3nmuscle15 4 жыл бұрын
My question. Wouldnt you smell it outside the car? My smell is on the inside of the car.
@larid1069
@larid1069 6 жыл бұрын
Same on my 2012 Grandsport at 28000 Henderson Chevrolet charged me $2600 the week before christmas. Chevrolet already knew it was a recall and took my money anyway. two weeks later I got a check from Chevrolet headquarters, for the repair. they need to issue a recall on the harmonic balancer pulley, 80% chance of full failure before 40000.. cheap parts
@dbnarizona
@dbnarizona 3 жыл бұрын
This is so dangerous I would recommend reporting it to www.NHTSA.dot.gov Hopefully they will take action to have this become a RECALL!
@dazz510
@dazz510 9 жыл бұрын
It should be a recall I have the same problem on my 08. How much was the cost for the drivers side sending unit? When they mean updated it means they used better plastic?
@dbnarizona
@dbnarizona 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! It should have been a RECALL but it was covered up by GM. They used the GM Special Coverage Adjustment #15682 to get around notifying all owners of the potential defect. It probably saved them millions of dollars in recall repairs. Unfortunately, it is a dangerous fuel supply problem caused by a defective design. More people should report this to NHTSA.dot.gov and maybe a recall will be posted!
@mulaonhotspot3738
@mulaonhotspot3738 7 жыл бұрын
Just went to the dealership today 8-31-17 and got this issue fixed free of charge 3,000$ issue.
@edlozano8694
@edlozano8694 6 жыл бұрын
what's the bulletin number ?
@mauryvv
@mauryvv 6 жыл бұрын
Is that fixed can be done by the dealer without warranty? 09 c6 base?
@masterchiefgtxable
@masterchiefgtxable 6 жыл бұрын
More info is desperately needed on how you had this paid for...
@puertoriqueno24
@puertoriqueno24 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder why I smell gas in the garage
@pineuffer
@pineuffer 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same smell but only after fill up...I have been wondering if its the crossover pipe leaking when both tanks are full. Then when the level goes down there is no more fuel in the crossover pipe. Any ideas on that?
@adamlittle1568
@adamlittle1568 4 жыл бұрын
It smells worse after fill up because fuel is phsyically above the level of the 'Hat' and therefore weeping out. Notice the tank extends above the flange mount when totally full. Roh G H my man!
@camilliadiaz7190
@camilliadiaz7190 Жыл бұрын
Likewise on my 2005 I Need to get it fixed. Although being a female taking it to dealer they going to want to double my price 😢. I know some what about Mechanics but I wouldn’t be able to fix mine. In Phoenix, Az any suggestions
@scottwalker145
@scottwalker145 8 жыл бұрын
Chevy has sent a letter saying they will repair this for free. It is NOT a full recall because it apparently does not apply to every C6. However, if you do have the problem, they are supposed to fix it.
@BrianTX541
@BrianTX541 7 жыл бұрын
is there something I can reference when talking to my dealership?
@scottwalker145
@scottwalker145 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. It is not a full recall, but they do have a service notice out for the fuel smell caused by a leak near the fill cap. Your dealer will know about it. He will want you to pay $125 to diagnose, but if it IS the designated problem, they give that back. It is bull.
@BrianTX541
@BrianTX541 7 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks for the info.
@edlozano8694
@edlozano8694 6 жыл бұрын
what's the bulletin reference number?
@masterchiefgtxable
@masterchiefgtxable 6 жыл бұрын
Ed Lozano Bulletin #15682 👍
@robertdavis5714
@robertdavis5714 6 ай бұрын
Damn, you did this in your garage, own a 08 and fear this issue. Since a plastic failure my personal reason has to be temperature changes, especially freezing.
@natenaterson8889
@natenaterson8889 4 жыл бұрын
I was told that would be a 12hr job lol
@billarnold9358
@billarnold9358 6 жыл бұрын
Just dropped our C6 Vette off and this problem at the dealership and their is a special advisory to fix the problem for free so you may save a lot of money for anyone interested.
@northeastmotorco
@northeastmotorco 6 жыл бұрын
Bill Arnold- yes sir I got my letter a few months ago. We had a big push on Corvette Forum to get GM to recognize this issue and goodwill the replacement. This video as well as many reports to the NHTSA from forum members helped bring light to the problem. Glad you got your issue resolved. This raw fuel smell can be a big problem when you park the car in the garage.
@edlozano8694
@edlozano8694 6 жыл бұрын
what's the bulletin reference number? I have the same issue.
@masterchiefgtxable
@masterchiefgtxable 6 жыл бұрын
Bill Arnold yep, I'm in the same boat. Is there a reference number I can give the dealer on this issue?
@True_Knight
@True_Knight 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m having this same issue and I tried to explain this to Chevy multiple times and the lady I was dealing with seemed clueless. Of course she said they won’t fix it, because it’s not related to the fuel cap bulletin. I tried to explain it wasn’t the fuel cap, she seemed really confused. What was the bulletin or special advisory number?
@masterchiefgtxable
@masterchiefgtxable 6 жыл бұрын
The dealer close to me was able to look it up. It has to be reported to them prior to the car reaching 10 years in service. I'll ask for the bulletin number when I go in Monday. My 08 base was manufactured in June of 08 so I should be covered.
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