C64 DEMO WE ARE NEW by FAIRLIGHT

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13 жыл бұрын

And also released today, the new Fairlight demo called: "We are new". This demo animates things real nice and is more graphics orientated then sound wise.

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@dmorlan
@dmorlan 11 жыл бұрын
This is a spectacular example of how influential programming is. These days hardware is very heavily leaned upon to compensate for inefficient or sloppy coding. I salute their work wit tremendous zeal. Thirty years later I still have a soft spot in my heart for the old C64. Kudos!
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 11 жыл бұрын
8 sprite limitation overcome by careful use of horizontal/vertical raster interrupts and of course real-time data unpacking to maximize a limited memory. I remember talking to "Strider" of Fairlight in Sweden back in day ;) -The Phanthom
@matthewsjc1
@matthewsjc1 6 жыл бұрын
This would have BLOWN my adolescent mind if I had loaded this on my c64.
@nickryan3417
@nickryan3417 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I'd have spent way too long trying to work out how it was done too
@Games-bw5ee
@Games-bw5ee 3 жыл бұрын
It's blowing my mind now!
@MrTeshy1986
@MrTeshy1986 9 жыл бұрын
Incredible for a computer from 1982!
@subtledemisefox
@subtledemisefox 8 жыл бұрын
It's awesome that fairlight are still a big part of the scene even today.
@FairLight1337
@FairLight1337 2 жыл бұрын
We are :)
@robsku1
@robsku1 9 жыл бұрын
kiko lopez said he likes gameboy demos better because he prefers 8-bit synthesizers over c-64's "sid instruments", whatever he thinks those are. The ridiculous thing is that sid is an 8-bit synthesizer chip, and much more advanced than gameboys sound chip.
@purrbox7514
@purrbox7514 6 жыл бұрын
c64, filthy basslines since 1982.
@SpiralPegasus
@SpiralPegasus 11 жыл бұрын
30 years from now I'll be 50. May not have been there, but I sure admire the little C64, so I'll be there, at least. This is impressive, but what I love most is the music. Downright amazing. It's on Jeroen Tel's level.
@MxArgent
@MxArgent 12 жыл бұрын
If anyone knew how to make the most of available resources, it'd be the demosceners. Seriously, the day the last C64 demo comes out will be a sad one.
@mrpedrobraga
@mrpedrobraga 2 жыл бұрын
:(
@MxArgent
@MxArgent 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrpedrobraga Fortunately, the VC crew stuck around long enough for me to get involved! Hard to believe a decade ago I thought I'd never get my hands on any of these systems. Lot of my old comments coming up this year. Interesting!
@cincofone
@cincofone 11 жыл бұрын
These effects are achieved not only by being an efficient coder, but by exploiting many flaws in the C64s chips and using it way outside of its specifications. Maybe if today's machines could be exploited in such a way we'd see such amazing innovation. The 64k PC demo scene which uses much faster hardware is still amazingly impressive efficiency wise.
@PazuzuDarkVoid
@PazuzuDarkVoid 12 жыл бұрын
That was truly awesome! Thanks Fairlight!
@ecernosoft3096
@ecernosoft3096 11 ай бұрын
NES: "C64 is less powerful than the NES. It can't hurt you." C64:
@KimStennabbCaesar
@KimStennabbCaesar 10 жыл бұрын
A lot of the specific techniques used to create complex demos like this is very hard to translate to tutorials since it's all pretty much custom, using insane workarounds and code "exploits" and glitches.
@Sinistar1983
@Sinistar1983 4 жыл бұрын
Then the best way to learn them, is to directly look into the source itself. And tinker with it and see what works
@kakecapercaillie4054
@kakecapercaillie4054 3 жыл бұрын
Math and rendering routines.
@microfighterz
@microfighterz 2 жыл бұрын
So you're essentially deliberately throwing in broken code?
@FairLight1337
@FairLight1337 2 жыл бұрын
Still - loop unrolling is one of the key techniques.
@HardDiskLover
@HardDiskLover 8 жыл бұрын
I love this Demo ^_^ the music is amazing!!
@vrillco
@vrillco 11 жыл бұрын
You can call it all sorts of names, but code is code and there is no such thing as "beyond assembly". Assembly is just a mnemonic representation of the opcodes since it is easier to memorize and distinguish words than numbers. But yes, back in the day, a lot of us knew the opcodes, and with lots of patience, trial and error, we could do neat tricks like self-modifying code and re-using data as code or vice-versa. Back then, every game was a democoding effort to make it fast and small enough.
@tyleradams6048
@tyleradams6048 8 жыл бұрын
So, the part with the telephone lines; who made that one? 'Cause DAMNNNNN!
@SpiralPegasus
@SpiralPegasus 10 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely magnificent and the ending is the icing on the cake. I love it!!
@gettingpast4391
@gettingpast4391 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was never really into games... but I sure loved watching these demos on my c64. It's amazing what can be done with so little.
@manuell3505
@manuell3505 5 жыл бұрын
8:00 - This looks like enough capabilities to do a simple Wolf3d-like game... Must write the whole in assembly probably, though
@amurense
@amurense 9 жыл бұрын
this is beautiful
@rideronthewhitehorse2012
@rideronthewhitehorse2012 11 жыл бұрын
I can't help but be in love with the c64 home screen ....ahhhhh...oh yeah, and this guy is my hero :) You rock my friend!
@DanyWildTV
@DanyWildTV 13 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome !! i love it !!! keep on doing ! more and more of this !
@Sephirothxxxxxxxxxxx
@Sephirothxxxxxxxxxxx 11 жыл бұрын
Very good looking! Didn't know the commodore 64 was capable of such smooth animation and impressive visuals.
@sigurdurf
@sigurdurf 13 жыл бұрын
What a masterpiece! Thank you!
@KJezza
@KJezza 10 жыл бұрын
Fairlight are the masters, always on the bleeding edge since as long as I have had a C64 and that's a bloody long time.
@Techx
@Techx 11 жыл бұрын
sick demo, must take some crazy coding skills to pull this off.. i still remember D/L'ing demos to my C128 off my 300bps modem and was amazed by them, those were good times
@telephony
@telephony 5 жыл бұрын
This demo really roxxorz!!! :-) I thought that I was hot shit when I debuted my 192-line $DO16 wave in 1992, but this makes my wave routine look like Donald Duck wrote that shit. :-O The FLI with the nearly-naked chick (well, she still had her panties on but her thingies were exposed) with the bouncing ball was superb, but then I was blown away by that Y-scrolling FLI piccy. I've never seen a C=64 do *THAT* before!!! :-O
@Kromaatikse
@Kromaatikse 12 жыл бұрын
Answer is... this *isn't* BASIC. It's hardcore machine code. Also, the full capacity of both sides of the disk are used, loaded in realtime while the rest of the demo is going on, and all on an ancient 8-bit micro. The C64 is amazing hardware for it's age. Also, Fairlight are amazing demo makers.
@BitmapNinja
@BitmapNinja 11 жыл бұрын
simply amazing! respect!
@MultiSecretViewer
@MultiSecretViewer 12 жыл бұрын
harrharrharr great to see that old stuff beeing big again! thx!
@pfrz
@pfrz 11 жыл бұрын
Oh man, imagine if this had come out back in the amiga and st era, this would have blown peoples minds.
@thearchiveable
@thearchiveable 9 жыл бұрын
Failight won.. back then.. and nowadays they still do!
@Szederp
@Szederp 11 жыл бұрын
Magical!
@MichaelATran-ix9wv
@MichaelATran-ix9wv 7 жыл бұрын
Wow,C64 and the SID Chip combined are the Masters of Sound and back then Graphics,and in some ways today's scene...OUTSIDE The Box and not Cookie-cutter...
@TheNouveauxdecadence
@TheNouveauxdecadence 12 жыл бұрын
Gezus, the samples in this are just so spine chilling. i am in UTTER sheeeer HEAVEN right now!!!
@andwilmor
@andwilmor 11 жыл бұрын
Very impressive!
@teabagger7
@teabagger7 11 жыл бұрын
Wow - amazing that they managed to wring such cool visuals out of the ol' c64! Even a bit of 3d, lol!
@trydowave
@trydowave 11 жыл бұрын
That was bloody impressive!
@cracktroscom
@cracktroscom 13 жыл бұрын
great work!
@retroc6450
@retroc6450 12 жыл бұрын
I just love this demo... :)
@Hlecktro
@Hlecktro 11 жыл бұрын
Sweet tracks.
@biffrapper
@biffrapper 11 жыл бұрын
Totally impressive.
@retrocomputercollector
@retrocomputercollector 3 жыл бұрын
love this demo, I have the end song as a ring tone on my phone!
@BleepingRelics
@BleepingRelics 12 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@federicoalbesa3748
@federicoalbesa3748 3 жыл бұрын
Que hermosura. a BIT of art? No, a lot of art.
@voodoomozg
@voodoomozg 11 жыл бұрын
Oh man! 02:44 is mind blowing! Love that staccato gate effect!
@richardhedderly
@richardhedderly 6 ай бұрын
Those block animations give a Descent game vibe.
@TheNouveauxdecadence
@TheNouveauxdecadence 12 жыл бұрын
@fdm06 YES, I agree. The music in this os literally KILLING ME here. I am so overwhelmed buy these soundz. Just purely stunningly amazing!!!
@cupididi
@cupididi 13 жыл бұрын
wow really feels like some new colours are possible on the good ol c64
@thedreadedbread7755
@thedreadedbread7755 10 жыл бұрын
The tune 5:30 onward is one of my favorites! :D
@thearchiveable
@thearchiveable 9 жыл бұрын
Copy of a trance track.
@SpiralPegasus
@SpiralPegasus 8 жыл бұрын
+thearchiveable Which one? I really would like to know.
@straszak80
@straszak80 13 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! I want my commodore c64 back now !
@GnomeFire
@GnomeFire 12 жыл бұрын
C64 was so much more than a game console. Lots of great music has been made with it over the years.
@RabiesTheBeagle
@RabiesTheBeagle 4 жыл бұрын
Its awsome
@binary132
@binary132 11 жыл бұрын
that was dope
@luk3z861
@luk3z861 5 жыл бұрын
This is fuc...g awsome.
@BateroCarbon
@BateroCarbon 11 жыл бұрын
Incredible. Maybe someday some canadian guy will create electronic music influenced by these demoscenes and chiptunes and will be named one of the best Dj/Producers in the world...
@naveed80
@naveed80 12 жыл бұрын
i am impressed, this puts a500 to shame, great music!!!! miss my c64
@ksevn
@ksevn 12 жыл бұрын
great
@vizaviv9953
@vizaviv9953 5 жыл бұрын
Супер!!! Красавцы!
@AllGamingStarred
@AllGamingStarred 6 жыл бұрын
(wipes eyeballs) HOLY SHIT!
@ryfodrea
@ryfodrea 12 жыл бұрын
this is all c64 based code? jesus this is awsome!
@MrTaggz
@MrTaggz 5 жыл бұрын
So miss these days
@naveed80
@naveed80 12 жыл бұрын
this is not just an computer, its an old friend
@YoungGomez
@YoungGomez 12 жыл бұрын
I came pixels awesome job!
@BNCA70
@BNCA70 11 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me that in the early 80s Commodore gave away free naff but fun games when you first bought a 64, I got Blitz (landing a plane on skyscrapers and having to bomb them to make the runway flat!) and yet the SAME computer was capable of things like this demo! Mental! I guess in 30-40 years there won't be anyone around who remembers the era.
@vrillco
@vrillco 11 жыл бұрын
Everyone "steals" from everyone, that's just how science evolves. Back in the early days, everyone basically lifted their ideas from Xerox PARC, which was a great innovator but not so great at marketing their ideas. And Linux ? Linux started as a clone of Minix, which was a clone of Unix. BSD is also a Unix clone. Everyone copies everyone, and with each imitation comes a small, incremental improvement. Always has been.
@FrostMonolith
@FrostMonolith 5 жыл бұрын
ok
@pfrz
@pfrz 11 жыл бұрын
and still does.
@Sno6403
@Sno6403 7 жыл бұрын
Is that real physics and 3d? wow
@Sinistar1983
@Sinistar1983 4 жыл бұрын
Raster interrupts
@Rudeboy1969faen
@Rudeboy1969faen 5 жыл бұрын
I keep hitting space bar for more... Nukid of Hoaxers
@gummipalle
@gummipalle 11 жыл бұрын
I want this to be interactive.... Make a game with this mood / style... And sign me up for 2 copies...
@Artsyca
@Artsyca 2 жыл бұрын
Slow clap 👏🏽 Absolute masterpiece. Archaeologists of the future will examine this like an ancient Egyptian hieroglyph. RIP Gunnar Jerry Kalback and Sammi Hoyt Barakat
@triptothebeach
@triptothebeach 13 жыл бұрын
wow!!!!!
@UltimatePerfection
@UltimatePerfection 7 жыл бұрын
That must've been overclocked C64. There's no fucking way 3D stuff can run this smooth on a stock one.
@vvvvvvvval
@vvvvvvvval 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe not 3D AND interactive, but I'm sure there are clever ways of hardcoding these animations very efficiently.
@snorman1911
@snorman1911 7 жыл бұрын
That's why these guys are legends.
@dajimejebote
@dajimejebote 6 жыл бұрын
You forget this isn't interactive 3D. It's not like machine needs to adapt display dinamically according to input. So there's definitively fucking way VIC could have done this with no problems.
@Cropsykills
@Cropsykills 11 жыл бұрын
so fucking cool!
@Dukenukem155
@Dukenukem155 2 жыл бұрын
Got this working as i found out this demo is for PAL C64 (at least this works on c64 maxi)
@xVGAmusicPlayerz
@xVGAmusicPlayerz Жыл бұрын
Probably an alternative version of 8088 MPH
@Kromaatikse
@Kromaatikse 11 жыл бұрын
I call it machine code because most of the work is being done by the chipset, which has been programmed at the very lowest level by the demo code. Additionally, much of the CPU code running was not written in assembler, but generated by a very sophisticated unpacker built into the demo itself - part of a so-called "fastcode" system which eliminates loop and index overhead. This requires knowledge at the opcode and operand level, and is therefore beyond assembly.
@Sh-hg8kf
@Sh-hg8kf 3 жыл бұрын
8:07 How does it draw such beautifully straight lines without jagged 3dges?
@MrLolKins
@MrLolKins 13 жыл бұрын
Is the ending tune on the HVSC and if so what can i search to find it? Another sick demo from Fairlight
@atinus666heru-ur8
@atinus666heru-ur8 10 жыл бұрын
Back to the Roots ! Przynajmniej dla mnie ! coś pięknego. Craven/Apidya. Polska
@ZILOGz80VIDEOS
@ZILOGz80VIDEOS 11 жыл бұрын
4:06 somebody really needs to take something like that and make it into a playable game, have a playable demo, that would really help capture part of the demoscene, the idea that something you had so much fun on years ago can do something like that.
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 4 жыл бұрын
I can't remember the name of it, but to basically make your day, it is a game. I know for a fact I saw it on gamebase64
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 4 жыл бұрын
or it might have been on csdb...but I know I saw it. I was like HEY! its that part from that fairlight demo! That's where they got the idea! I looked for it for a bit but I can't find it.
@hyperdespite
@hyperdespite 4 жыл бұрын
Wow
@Onsube
@Onsube 12 жыл бұрын
This drugs is great on video.
@urukh
@urukh 2 жыл бұрын
damn, website down. are there other good scene sites? and: awesome demo and the fairlight nusic reminds my on my first days on my c64...
@koskorax
@koskorax 13 жыл бұрын
@00Skyfox It also requires a good amount of artistic talent, creativity and some very fine coding skills. Fairlight combine these.
@Abrimaal
@Abrimaal 11 жыл бұрын
Is there any emulator that allows to run 2 (or more) disks packed in one zip file without swapping them?
@nzoomed
@nzoomed 5 жыл бұрын
what amazing 3D graphics in some parts! Why dont these guys make games?
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 4 жыл бұрын
These techniques are stand alone. Coding a game to run along with it with decent frame rates is much harder. Although that said, there are a number of first person perspective games for the C64. A surprising number. One of the first games I had for the 64 was 'Raiders of the Lost Tomb' which is a scrolling 3D game from 1984. Ironically, it has nothing to do with Indiana Jones even though everything about it screams Jones movie. It's frankly better than the indiana jones titles!
@peterlamont647
@peterlamont647 4 жыл бұрын
By harder I mean nearly impossible/impossible with full screen. I believe what they are doing there is using precisely timed raster bars with a look up table for the calculations. Since they are doing a limited set of a rendered environment, they can get away with a 1mhz processor. Mood for the c64 is an example of a 3d game with textured walls and exploding barrels. It is also practically unplayable. There was an actual full doom port done for the superCPU If you have an extra $700 and some luck finding one on ebay.
@nzoomed
@nzoomed Ай бұрын
​@@peterlamont647 quite true but I bet these developers know ways to optimize code to push the limits. Sam's journey is a classic example of a game that does the unimaginable
@bjcsupertortoise
@bjcsupertortoise 12 жыл бұрын
Music at 5:30 is awesome :)
@bjcsupertortoise
@bjcsupertortoise 12 жыл бұрын
Music at 05:30 is awesome :)
@lanatrzczka
@lanatrzczka 6 жыл бұрын
Did you use a CPU accelerator?
@scorpanox
@scorpanox Жыл бұрын
orangestar brought this up on runder and this is cool as fuck
@Paulwe1
@Paulwe1 12 жыл бұрын
Holy shit is that a ninja panda?
@iLife64
@iLife64 11 жыл бұрын
240p for best quality ;)
@monkem
@monkem 9 жыл бұрын
How can I create Grafics like this? Only with the commodore? Which programm? thx
@coskuarsiray
@coskuarsiray 9 жыл бұрын
there was a software called fligraph. or fligraphics. i cant remember exactly, but it was make you able to use 4 colors in 1 pixel of c64. it was legendary at that time. i missed those days.
@tituslafrombois1164
@tituslafrombois1164 11 жыл бұрын
What about all the books about coding?
@ghostmedic171TV
@ghostmedic171TV 11 жыл бұрын
SID 6581 ftw; now and always
@TheDainemudda
@TheDainemudda 11 жыл бұрын
It's quite a different style of music then the soundtrack to actual games. I think the music has kinda lost its grip on the atmosphere and sounds more like conventionel music. But then again it just isn't videogame music, so I am measuring it with the wrong standards. Anyway, I share the love for the Commedore 64 and it makes me happy I am not alone.
@cakestalker
@cakestalker 11 жыл бұрын
No way in hell it would be possible do this in BASIC...
@Sinistar1983
@Sinistar1983 4 жыл бұрын
Assembly, and a commodore set at 50 hrtz will do the trick.
@AllGamingStarred
@AllGamingStarred 6 жыл бұрын
was this hand coded in basic or assembly?
@Starredmediasoft
@Starredmediasoft 5 жыл бұрын
I think basic can't even reach 1/3 of the framerate of this demo...
@MrSammotube
@MrSammotube 11 жыл бұрын
The animation at 1:18 is used in the current version of VMC Lite software... strange.
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