Cadfael 1998 - The Holy Thief - El buen ladrón.

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10 жыл бұрын

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@tellingthetruth3726
@tellingthetruth3726 6 жыл бұрын
Derek Jacobi has his own charm.... but I LUURVE the late great Philip Madoc as Brother Cadfael in the bbc radio dramas.... if only he could have reprised his role onscreen......I can’t believe he’s gone......
@lymarie1974
@lymarie1974 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. One of my favorite shows.
@PassTheMarmalade1957
@PassTheMarmalade1957 7 жыл бұрын
49:51 “A pretty nest, without an egg.” That right there is some clever dialogue. Beaumont isn’t just talking about his chapel, he’s talking about his home. He has a beautiful castle, full of riches, but no family.
@mariagraziaferretti7161
@mariagraziaferretti7161 5 күн бұрын
Ne vado pazza ma quando trasmesso in italiano
@TheSuperHarrygeorge
@TheSuperHarrygeorge 9 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always. Derek Jacoby is perfect as Brother Cadfael.
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 9 жыл бұрын
***** Derek is a great actor but to my mind he just isn't Cadfael. Cadfael is Welsh through and through, and Derek doesn't bring this out in his portrayal.
@TheSuperHarrygeorge
@TheSuperHarrygeorge 9 жыл бұрын
+sitithesecond I understand what you mean Sitithesecond. Yes Derek did lack the Welsh accent. I am fond of the listening tape versions of Cadfael which are BBC produced and has Phillip Maddock as Brother Cadfael and the beautiful Welsh lilt is perfect.
@jennifursun3303
@jennifursun3303 8 жыл бұрын
+mhaíre 99 actually he didn't think he would do the character justice either. believe it or not the author of the bopoks wanted him to do the character of Cadfael
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
jennifur sun, yes I heard that and I find it extraordinary! Ellis Peters herself was Shrewsbury-Welsh, can't imagine why she consented! I would have stuck out for Philip Madoc as Cadfael in her place.
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
TheSuperHarrygeorge, I agree! Philip truly was Cadfael. However it isn't just about the Welsh speech; it's about Cadfael's essential Welshness which is a very important point in the story, because it explains why he thinks and acts as he does. I'm afraid Derek has turned Cadfael into a modern, upper-class and often rather aggressive Englishman.
@sethraelthebard5459
@sethraelthebard5459 3 жыл бұрын
I personally did not care for characterization of Hugh Beringar in this particular season. He always seemed so quick to believe the obvious, so ready to pass judgement without knowing the truth. It seems they took the unsavory traits of Sergeant Warden and amalgamated them into Hugh Beringar to create someone who was just "The Sheriff of Shrewsbury"; a man who cared more about dispensing judgement rather than finding justice.
@unasperanza9803
@unasperanza9803 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Hugh was always more subtle and circumspect than that and wouldn't have been Cadfael's friend if he had been like that .
@crystalheart9
@crystalheart9 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this upload! A great episode!!!!!!
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 9 жыл бұрын
+crystalheart9 Thank you!
@DrJacquesCOULARDEAU
@DrJacquesCOULARDEAU 7 жыл бұрын
CADFAEL - DEREK JACOBI - ITV 1994-1998 This series is interesting for many reasons. First of all, it is well done in a real setting, with a real abbey church and abbey, Shrewsbury Abbey, real stone and not plywood. The costumes and the quality of life in this twelfth century England are credible. The mud and the dirt are constantly present. The medicine of the time and the agriculture of the time are also in many ways true to what it was. The Benedictines are often called the engineers of the Middle Ages, and they were. A quick look in one episode on the scriptorium is probably not enough about that intellectual and technological importance of the order. They saved the libraries and the knowledge of the Roman Empire and brought it out when needed, particularly starting in the tenth century to develop the green revolution and later on the proto-industrial revolution centered on water mills, a Roman invention that the Romans did not use since they had slaves. The think that is missing though is the fact that this evolution was based on the religious reform of the 9th century that imposed the fifty two Sundays as days without work, plus the three religious festivities, Nativity, Passion and Assumption, altogether seventy-five days without human work. You can imagine how important it was to invent the horse collar, crop rotation, fertilizing, and these water mills that replaced so many men and women, even children, making the dream of a society centered on religion and without slaves a possible dream. We do not see these realities and these events enough. It is interesting too because many episodes are on the background of a civil war between a king and some rebels. King Stephen reigned from 1135 to 1154. This civil war connected with Wales as for the rebels is depicted as violent, brutal and absolutely unreliable. The monks were supposed to be neutral and at the same time supporting the King. Complicated. It is surprising though that the religious status they had was too often enough to protect them against the villains on either side. But this civil war was only an event that enabled the suspense to work in the episodes. The main interest is of course in the mysteries and crimes that happen in this context. Brother Cadfael is an ex-crusader who came back and did not hold his promise to go back to the woman he left waiting behind. Instead he joined the Benedictine order. But he developed a vast knowledge on plants and cures for many ailments and his mind was also very speculative about the motivations of people and he was often called upon to investigate this or that strange situation with one or two dead people. He is of course very innovative, and yet we know that these Benedictines were very clever as for disentangling some complicated situation. We of course think of “The Name of the Rose.” The murders, or at times mysterious deaths, were always dealt with in a modern way and the solution is never really what we expect. The director and the author play on our nerves and let us believe we know, though at times this piece of truth is so obvious that we know they want us to think we know, and the last twist reveals that we were wrong all along, just like Cadfael actually. That makes the stories interesting just at that level and the Crime Scene Investigation is always rich and tricky. For all these reasons I think this series should satisfy many people who want to be titillated with mystery, crime and a spiritual dimension which is at times perverse but most of the time just real. Some of the monks are real obnoxious people, selfish, self-centered, frankly racist or segregationist. But some others are full of compassion and patience and they are those who carry the day in the end. Dr. Jacques COULARDEAU
@radhikaschwartz3499
@radhikaschwartz3499 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful summation. Of course what was left out of it was the slow evolution of Christianity over the past 700 years, brother Jerome is a perfect prototype of the GOP MAGA pence Limbaugh coneybarret,kavanaugh ,j.pirro,oral Roberts, jerry Falwell sr and jr. .Fox News , and the masses of greedy ,hypocritical,racist,misogynistic Christian majority that are blindly trying to take America down. And well may do so.
@petersinclairphd6626
@petersinclairphd6626 3 ай бұрын
Thank. Interesting and well written.
@dicostigan1449
@dicostigan1449 3 ай бұрын
Rebels? In point of fact, Stephen was such an inept king that anarchy prevailed throughout Britain, and it was through the goodness of Robert of Gloucester that the Empress Matilda was urged to take up arms against Stephen.
@jennifursun3303
@jennifursun3303 8 жыл бұрын
someone asked about the music for the series,. composer is a Colin Towns
@dawnklug6986
@dawnklug6986 7 жыл бұрын
For those not understanding why the bones are in a small box OssuaryAn ossuary is a chest, box, building, well, or site made to serve as the final resting place of human skeletal remains. They are frequently used where burial space is scarce. A body is first buried in a temporary grave, then after some years the skeletal remains are removed and placed in an ossuary
@mavisemberson8737
@mavisemberson8737 2 жыл бұрын
But Winifred was not in the reliquary, Cadfael left her in Wales.
@elizabethportuguez3825
@elizabethportuguez3825 7 жыл бұрын
Gracias,buen film.
@jamesmackenzie8271
@jamesmackenzie8271 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the movie. Thanks.
@francoriaanabrahams8311
@francoriaanabrahams8311 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this series allot,Thnx 👍❤️
@margaritapadillamunoz6924
@margaritapadillamunoz6924 3 жыл бұрын
Excelente
@Gardenia262
@Gardenia262 10 жыл бұрын
He echado de menos al simpático fraile los días que he estado fuera. Gracias por darnos la oportunidad de disfrutar de tus vídeos a las personas que no sabemos idiomas
@Cat919
@Cat919 9 жыл бұрын
Great horse stunt at 10:44 - While the horse is getting up, a guy dives over it :)
@sb6678
@sb6678 3 жыл бұрын
The reliquary is different and much smaller from the one from A morbid taste for bones
@unasperanza9803
@unasperanza9803 2 жыл бұрын
They could have had it in a smaller box for transport with in a big one or they did divide them later. BUT as we all know the Real St Winifred is in Welsh soil!!
@stormbringerr7806
@stormbringerr7806 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for upload.. .in the written story lord Beaumont was actually quite honorable and did nothing wrong..the rest of the video goes along w/the book pretty well.
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 10 жыл бұрын
It sometimes happens. Haven't read this story yet, but the rest are quite faithful to the books.
@jennifursun3303
@jennifursun3303 9 жыл бұрын
De época this series is one of those rarites that does stick close to the books i as a life long reader have appreciated that a lot
@oceandrainer
@oceandrainer 7 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? I count AT LEAST a dozen changes from the book, including one of the most important: who the actual murderer was.
@gretapiersoncolman8898
@gretapiersoncolman8898 10 жыл бұрын
Hola!. He descubierto hace unos dias esta serie GENIAL!.El protagonista se asemeja a G.de Baskerville en "El nombre de la rosa" de Umberto.Eco, en cuanto a sus facultades detectivescas.El actor principal de esta serie es el que -también- interpretó al emperador romano Claudio, en la famosa serie "Yo, Claudio". Gracias por subirla. Espero que puedas subtitular en español, todos los capítulos que la componen. Saludos.
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 10 жыл бұрын
Greta, me alegra te guste la serie. El resto de los capítulos está en el canal "De Ëpoca 2" Solo falta subtitular el último. ¡Este actor es maravilloso!
@mrdrgc
@mrdrgc 7 жыл бұрын
Greta Pierson Colman Total coincidencia con Ud. Greta. Recuerdo la versión cinematográfica con Sean Connery, Christian Slater, Ron Perlman y Valentina Vargas. 1986, hace 30 años!!
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 9 жыл бұрын
An absolute travesty of the original book. Robert Beaumont, earl of Leicester (alias Robert Bossu) - so not "Lord Beaumont" anyway! - was an honourable, decent, peace-loving man with an impish sense of humour. A most likeable character. Seems to me that the makers of this series delight in turning every pleasant and decent character in the books into some kind of monster. But at least the actress playing Daalny is absolutely stunningly beautiful, which compensates a little for the unjustifiable vilification of poor Robert Bossu.
@oceandrainer
@oceandrainer 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was quite surprised how much they changed from the book. I finished reading the novel today, and was disappointed with all the changes. I don't even know why they bothered with all the alterations. This episode did not do the book justice, at all.
@mrdrgc
@mrdrgc 7 жыл бұрын
Mairwen 99 Well, actually we have Richard III, who were a very competent King, but thanks to Shakespeare most of people judged him as a Devil. Literature license
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Daniel. Shakespeare made poor Richard a villain in order to curry favour with Elizabeth Tudor, because - to quote Victoria Holt - the Tudors had sneaked to the throne in a very back-door manner (by murdering Richard!). But after all, Shakespeare's play was understandable in those days, as he wanted to get on and make a career at Court. Also they didn't have the knowledge about Richard that we have today. But there is no reason for this film producer to mess about with the original characters.
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
oceandrainer, unfortunately most of these episodes don't do the books justice. It's a real shame, as they could have made such a really excellent TV series if they had stuck to the books - and cast a Welsh actor as Cadfael! I really liked Robert Bossu in the book, he was such an intelligent man and an incredible tease, mischievous but never malicious.
@sethraelthebard5459
@sethraelthebard5459 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I noticed the same thing with the characterization of Hugh Beringar. In the earlier seasons he was an honorable man willing to believe in the good in people. This season made him into an elitist putz who passed judgement on anyone who was convenient. They did the something similar with "The Pilgrim of Hate" in which the entire story and characters were altered. It was very much NOT like the source material.
@roxanaolivares8137
@roxanaolivares8137 8 жыл бұрын
muy buenas todas,versión antigua ,del investigador columbo
@boojay111
@boojay111 5 жыл бұрын
uuummmm, not sure if they even looked at the book before they made this episode. Could have looked at the back cover maybe and then made it up from then on
@geraldinetomlin6336
@geraldinetomlin6336 10 жыл бұрын
A travesty of Edith Pargeter's original story, just re-read having watched this film. Why? Read the book - so very much better.
@jennifursun3303
@jennifursun3303 9 жыл бұрын
sadly they usually are
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
All the books are loads better than the TV series, unfortunately. The only one I really liked was the Potter's Field.
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
The Sherlock Holmes TV series with Jeremy Brett as Holmes, and the Agatha Christie's Poirot series are two rare exceptions as they are absolutely first class.
@oneday631
@oneday631 Жыл бұрын
Many of the elder monks in high “rank” in this series seem quite bitter, what happened to the teaching of God that they were supposed to follow. They seemed to follow the angry God of the Old Testament not the teachings of the New Testament
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 10 жыл бұрын
Subtítulos en Español terminados. ¡Disfruten!
@SoniaCordoba
@SoniaCordoba 5 жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias!!!
@kyuzo9764
@kyuzo9764 3 ай бұрын
¡Impecables subtítulos!
@sb6678
@sb6678 3 жыл бұрын
Bears very little resemblance to the original novel. Even the murderer is different.
@Neldidellavittoria
@Neldidellavittoria 8 жыл бұрын
00:57 Bueno, yo soy partidaria de la Emperatriz Matilde. Para mí, es Esteban de Blois el 'pretendiente' y no ella. :)
@mrdrgc
@mrdrgc 7 жыл бұрын
Neldidellavittoria de hecho, Maud es la Madre de Enrique II y la generadora de la dinastía Plantagenet. Abuela de Ricardo Corazón de León. Sí, y la primera mujer Queen of England. Toda Majestad Ella.
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm par contrario yo soy partidaria del Rey Esteban estaba muy simpatico, Matilda no.
@betaniasebastianlopes6569
@betaniasebastianlopes6569 Жыл бұрын
Who is the killer in the book?
@leec2724
@leec2724 Жыл бұрын
Bit concerned about 'if one floats one is guilty'. Probably air bubbles in the clothes keep one buoyant.
@lesjohnson9740
@lesjohnson9740 8 жыл бұрын
They also are but Human Billy, we aspire but frequently fail in our ambitions to be close to our God.
@davidlofdahl2875
@davidlofdahl2875 2 жыл бұрын
its a deep one this one
@viabum
@viabum 10 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Brother Columbanus's body placed in the relic casket? Aren't Saint Winifred's bones back in Gwytherin?
@lcawker
@lcawker 10 жыл бұрын
yes
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, (but nobody knows.)
@Nerpha
@Nerpha 9 жыл бұрын
Shhhhhh do you want to get brother Cadfael in trouble!
@chavamara
@chavamara 9 жыл бұрын
De época Still, the casket should be huge, not that little box. Seems an odd inconsistency for them.
@divusclaudius
@divusclaudius 9 жыл бұрын
chavamara they broke columbanus's legs and arms....
@mariagraziaferretti7161
@mariagraziaferretti7161 5 күн бұрын
Perche non in italiano
@elenazurieta6082
@elenazurieta6082 10 жыл бұрын
¿Cuándo podremos tener "The Holy Thief" subtitulado en español¡
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 10 жыл бұрын
En unos meses. Los hago yo misma y llevan muuucho tiempo e investigación. Me alegra que te gustaran los de los otros capítulos.
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 9 жыл бұрын
+elena zurieta, los subtítulos ya están subidos.
@Neldidellavittoria
@Neldidellavittoria 8 жыл бұрын
¡+De época ¿Tú eres Cecilia?! Debo felicitarte por las excelentes traducciones. Un trabajo brillante y muy profesional, mucho mejor que lo que suele verse por ahí, lleno de 'false cognates' mal traducidos y errores debidos a la ignorancia del traductor que, cuando no conoce un aspecto cultural, ni se molesta en averiguarlo. Muy buen trabajo.
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 8 жыл бұрын
+Neldidellavittoria Gracias, Neldi. La mayoría de los subtítulos son míos, no todos. Es cierto, contrariamente a lo que se piensa, traducir es todo un trabajo y lleva también mucha investigación. Es conocer toda una cultura y sus diferentes épocas y expresiones. Me alegro te gustaran.
@AvgerinouAna99
@AvgerinouAna99 10 жыл бұрын
Αυτός δεν είναι ο ηθοποιός που έπαιζε στο "Εγώ, ο Κλαύδιος"; Τι εκπληκτικός που ήταν σ' αυτόν τον ρόλο
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, he is. Incredible, isn't it?
@billylyons690
@billylyons690 8 жыл бұрын
It seems like some of the monks portrayed in this series are extremely hateful. How can a order dedicated to the ways of Christ not love everyone?
@deepoca1151
@deepoca1151 8 жыл бұрын
+Billy Lyons I think it was so as a way to escape poverty, there weren't many jobs those days, aprentices had to pay for education or you could be a soldier, that's all.
@knicklas48
@knicklas48 8 жыл бұрын
+Billy Lyons On the other hand, it often seems that Caefael is so much a man of the 20th century as to be almost unbelievable.
@scottsmith9691
@scottsmith9691 8 жыл бұрын
in those times there were many reasons to enter holy orders beyond love of god and fellow man. male infants would be left, younger sons of nobility but with little or no inheritance, people wanting to escape the stresses of life -- and so on -- are just a few reasons why a lot of them could be extremely unpleasant. it was a dark time for the church, but monasteries and nunneries did at least provide recourse for people who otherwise would have fallen on hard times, become brigands, or died.
@baraxor
@baraxor 8 жыл бұрын
Until the rise of great towns and cities, becoming a cleric was about the only way a man not born to inherit wealth or position...or didn't have much military prowess...could achieve power and influence by climbing the rungs of the hierarchy through his wits and political skills.
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
Billy Lyons, well I suppose because monks are human :-) But I think it's more due to the film producer's interpretation. In the books the only really unpleasant monk is Brother Jerome. Prior Robert is a bit of a snob as well, but they are nowhere near as awful as portrayed here.
@divusclaudius
@divusclaudius 9 жыл бұрын
I am glad this age is gone forever ans one will not be judged by inquisition...or to be thrown in to the water to prove one's innocente or guilt!!
@youkokun
@youkokun 9 жыл бұрын
The Catholic Inquisitors were actually more often appealed to by people as opposed to the secular courts, who could impose corporal punishment. People would ask to have their cases tried before the Church rather than the state because they knew they would be LESS likely to be burned or drowned by priests. Shall I quote my secular public university book to prove it to you? Please don't make sweeping statements or dismiss the good things of the period.
@divusclaudius
@divusclaudius 8 жыл бұрын
+youkokun i do as i please not to please you
@Berzstiflag
@Berzstiflag 8 жыл бұрын
Both of you should try to please the spirit of truth and your own consciences, not "do as I please" like a toddler.
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
divusclaudius, the Inquisition was in the 16th century and being thrown into the water a little later, 17th century. This story is set in the year 1144 which is 400-500 years earlier., But I appreciate your point.
@dennismckown8810
@dennismckown8810 7 жыл бұрын
lot of holy roller bs. like saying "its not my fault blame it on the Saint"
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
Dennis you should remember that this is in the year 1144 - almost a thousand years ago! - and people's attitudes to religion and other matters were quite different. You can't expect ordinary unlettered people in mediaeval times to think like we do today. They were extremely ignorant and superstitious and they also had a great deal more to contend with in respect of personal problems (poverty, disease, illiteracy, lack of decent housing, etc.). We may be better educated, but we are facing the far worse problems of pollution and human overpopulation which we are apparently incapable of resolving or even showing any inclination to resolve.
@jennifursun3303
@jennifursun3303 9 жыл бұрын
those relics are one of the reasons why Jesus and the Bible are against worshiping THINGS
@mfjdv2020
@mfjdv2020 5 жыл бұрын
jennifur sun I think you have got hold of the wrong idea about Catholics. We don't "worship" what you call "things" (and that raises the question of whether it is ethical to call a saint a "thing"!!) We venerate the Saints and we adore the Mother of God, but we don't "worship" them or "pray to" them. we ask them to intercede for us with God, And like Cadfael we can just have a chat with them, as he does so often with Saint Winifred. Relics of saints are part of our religion, but we don't worship them. And I don't think Jesus ever said anything about not venerating the Saints or his own Mother. Well, he couldn't have because nobody had yet been canonised or beatified during his lifetime.
@educatedmanholecoverbyrich8890
@educatedmanholecoverbyrich8890 4 жыл бұрын
Why is the video so poor?
@radhikaschwartz3499
@radhikaschwartz3499 2 жыл бұрын
Brother prior reminds me of Stephen Miller and so many of the evil doers in the Trump administration
@dennismckown8810
@dennismckown8810 7 жыл бұрын
nothing but greedy monks. guess these monks aren't related to St. Francis of Assisi
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