Cadisen Up The Ante... The C8216M Rocks! Full Review

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Cadisen Up The Ante... The C8216M Rocks! Full Review

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Күн бұрын

Over this last 12 months I have reviewed more watches than I can remember, Some good, some bad, some brilliant, some, well...not so brilliant!
The thing is I never get bored because there is always something that catches you on the hop. I expect the unexpected now!
The Cadisen C8216M falls into that category.
I have reviewed Cadisens before and have found a couple of them immensely likeable. This one is different.
The Cadisen C8216m and its stablemate the Cadisen C8217M (a verso GMT with an NH34 movement) have shown their intent. There are some very nice improvements.
If you are looking for a Rolex Submariner homage with a little twist then the Cadisen C8216M might be for you...especially at the price of around $100!
Full disclosure: this C8216M watch was sent to me for free by Cadisen, however all of the content and the conclusions drawn in the video are those of Johns Watch Joint.
You can purchase the watch on the affiliate link below via AliExpress.
You will not be charged any extra but you will be supporting the channel going forward. Thank you for your support :)
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@adk7962 Жыл бұрын

Damn. Cadisen and Pagani have been punching well above their weight lately. Thanks for the great review! Poor Molly. 🐝

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Haha. It was so funny when she got stung. All fine though ;)

@gorillasinthewrist Жыл бұрын

Been a Cadisen fan since I first got a C1032 in my grubby mitts. This is a decent subbie homage, like the shiny bezel but strangely I am shying away from larger l2l towards 38 to 39mm dials. Great to see Molly hunting!

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

I am the same and I am renowned for midsize reviews but when asked by Cadisen to review it I thought why not? Glad I did as it is a nice watch, even though it is a sunny homage....which I am not a fan of.

@lukegalloway2402 Жыл бұрын

Great watch for someone just getting started in our hobby or a posh beater! Good to see they did a good job on the glide lock. Good review john

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Thanks Luke. I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

@higgledypiggledycubledy8899 10 ай бұрын

Just received mine, which your nice review helped me pick. Some early observations: - mine has green lume for the hands and pip and blue lume for the markers - looks cool but I worry that the hands might fade first - cyclops is slightly misaligned, nothing terrible though - the glide lock on mine seems sturdy and works well, the bracelet is great and easy to work with, however the edges of the clasp are too sharp - the bezel alignment and feel are great, there is almost no back play (maybe half a click if that), and it's neither too loose or too firm - the crown feels durable - the male endlinks are a shame, honestly I'd prefer hollow female ones to solid male ones - these affect the overall look, it's not jarring but it's not ideal either - overall I have no complaints with the watch itself and the minor issues with the bracelet are super ok given the price.

@johnswatchjoint 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for your detailed description of your watch. Wear it in good health :)

@dunderhay9169 Жыл бұрын

That really is a bargain, I couldn't believe it when the lume was good too. Great review, I hope Molly has recovered now 😁

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

It is a cracker....and Molly always gets stung by bees...but she keeps playing with them anyways! Dafty that she is :)

@conyo985 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this review! I was thinking of getting the Sugess sub but this Cadisen is good enough for me. It has better lume compared to Pagani Design and has 200M water resistance. This is just a smarter buy. Sugess is higher quality finishing for sure but the price is double.

@johnswatchjoint 10 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

@colinw7496 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, good review. Looks like a nice watch. I'm not crazy about having "Cadisen" etched in the rehaut 10 times, I would find it distracting I think..

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

You don't actually see the name when wearing it but it really catches the light. For a cheap watch this is in my top 3 on Ali now...and I really don't like Sub Homages...go figure !?

@darrenfry4695 Жыл бұрын

Cadisen have definitely upped there game, and this looks a nice little watch,we all love the sub design,so imo this is a nice watch with good specs for the money. Cheers John keep these brilliant reviews coming.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Thanks Darren. Somehow your comment got sin+binned !!??

@darrenfry4695 Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint ??

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Comments are sometimes set aside by the algorithm because they are deemed offensive. Does it all the time and your message was flagged but I don't know why :)

@danspanos Жыл бұрын

Looks like a great little watch for the money!

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

It caught me off-guard!

@AndyEntrepreneur 11 ай бұрын

I just bought this watch , Next to the C8210M i already had . Remember today up to Sept 22 there are crazy sale prices on some stores on Aliexpress, i bought it with around 30 % discount of the original price. Cant go wrong with a Cadisen especially for such prices. Great quality watches.

@johnswatchjoint 11 ай бұрын

Hi Andy. Nice one. I am aware of the sale.Check out my latest vid where I list some of these crazy deals and subscribe so you don't miss any content:)

@timeandnourishment1961 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review, John. They could lose the Cyclops as far as I'm concerned, but it's a great value proposition. See me, but - anyone ups my auntie, I'll pit the heid in um, help ma boab. Cheers 🍻!

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

...jings...crivens 😆

@MichaelWerneburg 11 ай бұрын

Good for Cadisen. Thanks for the thorough, watchable review.

@johnswatchjoint 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@tims Жыл бұрын

I would love to see one without the cyclops and an aluminum bezel insert. Very good value for the money though.

@XjohnjohnX88 Жыл бұрын

Wow! It's really impressive for the price. Way better than the PD one. Excellent review 👍. Thanks, John.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Cheers John !

@markloubser2433 Жыл бұрын

Well there certainly is plenty of choice out there, ie. this, pagani, and all the others with unpronouncable names...... Seiko prolly making more from selling movements than their actual watches...

@adamant262 Жыл бұрын

Not bad at all for the money.

@TomasPerez-en6bp Жыл бұрын

Oh that's gorgeous I haven't seen a Cadisen since the tag style watch you made a video on I think 6 or 7 months ago I'd say its more than worth the money.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Yeah Tomas that was nice but they discontinued it quickly which was a shame. This is nice for not a lot of money though :(

@TomasPerez-en6bp Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint Oh that's actually disappointing to find out there's not very many willing to use that style to begin with

@willmarshall4685 Жыл бұрын

If you want a good budget subby this would be the one. Cadisen make solid watches that work without the massive qc issues of some of the other brands. I wear their tag homage nearly every day and have even worn it to clean the hull of the sailboat I race on. That’s a dirty job with lots of clanging about and copious amount of mud flowing into every nook and cranny. And it just keeps on ticking with no water damage or a single scratch in the metal.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Watch out for my AliExpress Sale list of watches...nice wee surprise in there ;)

@waris3732 3 ай бұрын

@@johnswatchjointbetween this, the steeldive, Pagani and Duka, which would be your pick?

@nasudipastores6683 Күн бұрын

One thing that cadisen does is that they do regulate their watches. I have 3 of their watches and they all came with 0.1-0.2 beat errors regulates to +/-2 seconds per day accuracy.

@jez-s Жыл бұрын

Wow, excellent review, at that price it’s a no brainier! What a fab little watch! Would probably put it on a different strap though, maybe a tropic…

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

It's a wee cracker ;)

@Emmepi37 Жыл бұрын

Really looks great, thx for review.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

No problem 👍

@thomasstanley6101 Жыл бұрын

What a handsome piece! Thanks John!

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

...I must be moving to the dark side....I like a Sub homage! ;)

@markthomas741 6 ай бұрын

I received one of these C8216M Sub's from Cadisen today the watch is constructed from decent quality parts. The Glidelock clasp is very useful and welcome, unfortunately the niggle is the totally abysmal bezel action. Lateral play and bounce plus too light an action to make it useable for anything more than timing an egg at home. That's a real shame it's my first Cadisen and will be my last until they improve their bezels and general QC. I paid $72 for it and because of the bezel consider it poor value compared to a number of other sub $100 Sub homages. I personally would not recommend this model.

@johnswatchjoint 5 ай бұрын

Send it back Mark it not normal for that sort of play.

@952651869 Жыл бұрын

Very nice, I would like to see a no date version, but great quality for the money

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

It's a decent budget watch. I genuinely like it and I don't like Subby Homages!

@mr_bisley Жыл бұрын

hey, congrats on almost being at 4k! :D Have you seen the new Citizen 37mil diver? Have you thought about picking one up for review? would've been interested in hearing your thoughts and how it compares to other smaller divers, like say that Tandorio (hey, first video of yours I ever saw almost a year ago! 😀)

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

I did pick it up as it is an important piece but I just sold it along with some other watches as time is passing too quickly for the amount of work I have on!

@stevenrobertson6656 Жыл бұрын

Good review John and a good effort by Cadisen 👍

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@spacejaime 6 ай бұрын

It really looks fantastic!

@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv 10 ай бұрын

John, can you ask Parnis, Cadisen, Pagani Design, San Martin etc, to create a watch like the Rolex Yacht Master or The Black Bay 54 or a Vintage Submariner etc which is between 36-39mm case size and around 43-46mm lug to lug? The watches they create right now are beautiful but far too big and ostentatious.

@johnswatchjoint 10 ай бұрын

Hi Johnny, I have a Cronos BB54 in just now for review. It may be up your alley! :)

@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv 10 ай бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint Oh great! Thanks John. I can't wait for this. I will really look forward to your upcoming review. Let's hope the other Chinese brands follow this trend. I would also absolutely love to see a Rolex Yacht Master 37mm. I would love to see some dive or tool watches at a nice slim 11-12mm. Here's hoping. 🤞👍

@johnswatchjoint 10 ай бұрын

Reviewing the BB54 now. Was supposed to be IXDAO IWC homage but we had an issue :(

@JohnnyComelately-eb5zv 10 ай бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint Oh thanks John, appreciate it mate.👍😀

@gs8287 Жыл бұрын

Great review as always 👏 👍

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that

@michaeldasilva5079 Жыл бұрын

Hi again John. Certainly a lot of watch for the money. Wonder how it stacks up against the Steeldive SD1953 🤔

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Oh no Michael...now you've gone and done it! Gonna have to get one in for a face off. No...it's ok...don't apologise...honestly haha ;)

@tedblack2415 Жыл бұрын

Well i was expecting the usual p*ss poor lume after everything else looking rather acceptable for the money so to say i'm stunned is an understatement , can't argue with that ... well done Cadisen .

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Well done indeed !

@AlexanderB. Жыл бұрын

I mean, it's a decent watch for the money. In my personal opinion the applied logo is unnecessary here, so less would be more in this regard. I often find these clasps have sharp edges. How about this one?

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

The clasp works flawlessly though as you know this clasp and me have history so plaudits have to go to Cadisen for making it work BUT yeah...I disagree on the applied logos. It is the best Chinese logo out there! We are in harmonious disagreement again haha

@AlexanderB. Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint Come on mate, I haven't disagreed with you about the watch as a whole, just one aspect! 😄

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Haha :)

@wilderbeestmcc6539 Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the Revelot Hexmariner..👍🇬🇧

@iplust666 6 ай бұрын

This is a mod version 8217

@Trex100 Жыл бұрын

I like it.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Cool 😎

@jazzman5598 Жыл бұрын

👍

@Chris-uv8hq 9 ай бұрын

I think I'm the only person that wants a semi loose bezel. Use mine for clothes washing and drying sessions, faster than setting timer on the phone. lol

@johnswatchjoint 9 ай бұрын

I like mine to be relatively easy to turn also. Review up tomorrow of another watch with a bezel action you may like :)

@MsBricktop80 11 ай бұрын

Good Video! I buy one 😊

@johnswatchjoint 11 ай бұрын

Good choice!

@jamesfowler4734 Жыл бұрын

How much better is the lume when compared with the Pagani?

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Night and day!

@meow7593 Жыл бұрын

11:13 is the lume only on the pip and not the whole bezel?

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

That is correct. No lune is required there as it goes like a torch already :)

@yonim3942 4 ай бұрын

I bought it and was very disappointed. The strap makes noise like a $5 watch😢😢😢

@johnswatchjoint 4 ай бұрын

Each to their own. Not my experience.

@ghostdog2898 6 ай бұрын

Is this as good as the steeldive 1953? Thanks

@johnswatchjoint 6 ай бұрын

It's comparable and I prefer it for how it wears. It looks great and is balanced better. It just feels less of a lump on the wrist. The bezel on the Steeldive is excellent though. The Cadisen's is less precise.

@hawaryalifiah5499 11 ай бұрын

How many hours for power reserve?

@johnswatchjoint 11 ай бұрын

The same as any Seiko NH35, around 40 hours :)

@hawaryalifiah5499 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much bro...🤝❤

@hawaryalifiah5499 11 ай бұрын

After watching your video, I bought one. I really like it and becomes one of my favourite. Black water ghost..! Thanks 👌

@snowblindbeats797 Жыл бұрын

Hard to pick between this one and the steeldive

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

I have the Steeldive 1953 on the way and will do a head to head but it will be after the sale. I have to say this has impressed me more than any Steeldive I have handled. Just my opinion of course :)

@snowblindbeats797 Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint I actually ordered the steeldive literally 1 minute ago, noticed it was on some sort of super deal so payed roughly 70USD for it. Looking forward to getting it!

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

👍

@josemourinho673 2 ай бұрын

look like Monta 🤔

@jamessaund Жыл бұрын

What do you have on wrist here John?

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Well spotted. It's a Record small seconds which is pretty much a Longines. Recently acquired and I love it.

@jamessaund Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint nice, good to see you branching out into different stuff. Review to come?

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

No it's just a personal piece as it is 50 years old. I am trying to do more outwith The Chinese watch scene and it is slowly turning but most still just do not watch :(

@ton28559 11 ай бұрын

Lug tho lug ....tho big😢

@johnswatchjoint 11 ай бұрын

??? It's as small as you get???

@larrylacostjr.2075 Жыл бұрын

Too big!! I loved how you hid the lug to lug on the wrist shots. 52 mm? Really?

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

No not too big. My wrist is 6.75" and it wears just fine. Remember the camera lens foreshortening your view. Nothing is ever"hidden" on my channel.

@andypark8105 Жыл бұрын

Is Cyclops magnifying glass also sapphire crystal?

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Hi Andy, I will check when I get home. Not something I thought of as it just works :)

@andypark8105 11 ай бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint Thank you. I'll wait for the results

@andypark8105 11 ай бұрын

I don't really like Diverwatch, especially Submarine homage, but I'm worried if I'm not using it after I bought it right away as if I was fascinated by your review My wrist is the same as yours So I don't have a single watch over 40mm

@johnswatchjoint 11 ай бұрын

My advice...if you are not sure...do not buy. You have to love the looks and be sure of the size ;)

@johnswatchjoint 11 ай бұрын

Just checked and the Cyclops is mineral glass .

@AnPrionsaBeag Жыл бұрын

Up the ante

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

...thx only noticed it when it went live doh....takes a while to update :)

@adamant262 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget your wrist checks 👍

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

I don't do them as I got a lot of comments stating I was just a salesman...which I am not :)

@isfbuster6733 Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjointentirely upto you but i like them. I can't really see what difference you showing us what you're wearing whilst reviewing watches makes for people think you're a "salesman". Some people are never happy. Keep up the good work.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Yep, we live in an unforgiving world. Tbh I don't really follow what others do anyway and it was never going to be a thing for me as I usually wear my own daily beater so it would get tiring for people watching it daily haha!

@isfbuster6733 Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint well if that's the case i make you right 😂

@pjmq Жыл бұрын

It would be as simple as putting lumed up sword hands instead of Mercedes hands to make this more of an original design. Somewhat fed up with China's unyielding love for copy-pasta jobs.

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Me too but it seems we are in the minority and as long as there is a market....! I don't like Subby Homages but I do like this one for some reason :)

@pjmq Жыл бұрын

@@johnswatchjoint I’m actually half tempted on this one myself. Even if it was just to swap out the handset and make it more original myself 😂

@johnswatchjoint Жыл бұрын

Aye ....ye see...she got ye! ;)