its a thing she's been doing since Iowa. I think she had a Nike NIL deal.

MVP

I don't blame the coach Assist/turnover ratios Trae Young 2.48 Luka 2.43 Lebron 2.40 Alyssa Thomas 2.06 Caitlin 1.40

This is a gift. Now we can skip watching the Olympics. Caitlin can get some much needed rest. Who cares about basketball in the Olympics anyways? Not me. It's boring as hell.

@@TheMeefiveonly one of those players is a rookie

@@kiriagosbauer2044 A good pg should strive for 3.0, which is a 3 to 1 ratio. OP was questioning why the coach does not think Caitlin is a good pg. It's because she has the worst assist to turnover ratio in the history of WNBA pgs.

​@trhansen3244 are you saying you don't give 2 💩 💩 s ?

..truth!

And can finish a lay up or 3 foot shot..haha

💯

which they're getting better at. would definitely have helped if the coach had supported that happening.

@@jonathanlabbe4711 no, that would not have affected her assist stat. are you sure you're following this?

Record is 316

The rookie assist record is 225

@@clarkkent1521 the rookie assist record is 225 from 30 games. CC has 194 from 25 games so far. The regular season record is 316 which Alyssa Thomas set last year.

@@clarkkent1521 that's really in striking distance especially with one of the easiest remaining schedules.

@@shauncampbell4371 I think she might break the record before the end of this season. If no Olympics, she would have broke Alyssa Thomas's record.

^ this

for Blocks, i think she's the only guard in the top 20.

Player efficiency Reese #26 (18.7) Caitlin #36 (16.9) Win Shares Reese #15 (2.6) Caitlin #51 (1.0) Offensive Rating Reese #52 (105) Caitlin # 84 (98) Defensive Rating Reese #43 (99) Caitlin #110 (108)

None of the guards on the Olympic team spent the past 20 odd games playing alongside teammates who cannot or will not pass the ball for someone else to score though. As I had to explain to someone else, CC numbers are this great because she plays with a bunch of players who either cannot pass the ball well or care not to. Case in point was the Fever's game against the Mercury. Despite both of them playing for over 30 mins each, neither Kelsey Mitchell or Nalyssa Smith had a SINGLE assist between them. HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? Now compare that to a team like the ACES, look at their game against the Mystics. SIX of their players had AT LEAST TWO assists and ONLY TWO of those players played for 30+ minutes. Actually the person who had the most assists Chelsea Gray (6) was only on the court for TWENTY minutes. The Aces are not alone in this, if you check ALL of the top teams in the league you will find this kind of distribution in assists and that is why they are at the top. People who argue that if CC was playing with one of these top teams she would have had 20 assists per game clearly do not understand that it is because she is NOT playing for a top team is why her stats are that high. The players in a top team know how to pass the ball so that someone else can score. Even Kate Martin who was on for only NINE minutes was able to record TWO assists.

​Well, then who is?

Exactly. I just looked up those same stats.

Yup, and one very easy method to show that rebounds and assists aren't a 1-to-1 comparison and how much easier it is to pile up rebounds than assists is simply to look at what the top rebounding vs assists numbers are - the top rebounders ALWAYS average many more rebounds than do the top passers in assists anywhere you go, WNBA, NBA, NCAA... using only this year as an example: - Clark leads in assists with 7.8 per game. - Reese leads in rebounds with 12.0 per game. You have to go down to 11th on the rebounding list to get to where it matches Clark's 7.8 number. - LeBron led the NBA in assists this past year with 8.8, which would only be 14th on the rebounding list, where Davis led with 15.6. - Clark led the NCAAs in assists this past year with 8.9, which would be ranked around 60th on the rebounding list, where the leader was at 15.3.

Caitlin has the MOST turnovers in a season IN WNBA HISTORY. 139 with 15 games to go

​@@TheMeefive It's doesn't matter if you get the win it's the main goal to get the win and go to the playoffs

@@gamessportsmusicmovieschan2930 Why didn't you say that to OP? Chicago is in the playoffs at this point.

@@TheMeefive Caitlin is a rookie. Caitlin is face guarded all 94 feet.she is constantly double teamed and blitzed. She is a ball handler. Teams number one goal is to stop her.LeBron James has over 5,200 turnovers. Give her some slack. She is a rookie.

I’m sure you can make layups all day while a power forward and a center is hitting your arms, chest, stomach, etc.. You the type of CC fan that’s horrible. What are your accomplishments in basketball? NCAA Champion? Hell no.. Most Double Doubles in any league, shucks you can throw in the peewee league? Nope… But yet, so much criticism for someone doing something that you can’t come close to doing.. smh.. You saw Angel get 3 rebounds in 3 seconds, guess what genius, none of that equated to a turnover.. That only gave her team more opportunity to score which is kind of a good thing in basketball.. Just saying.. Congrats CC for becoming the Assist lead, congrats to Angel for leading in rebounds!.

that is true - imho - sides n dunn c the wins aas justifying theirnbs game philosophy - only because CC takes over the pace/game do they win

He just praises her.

stat padding rebounds LOL

Hear, hear!

False. You started too, but then decided to take a passive aggressive shot at Clark fans. If you were really about what you say you are , your comment would simply say - “Hey, Ima big Angel Reese fan, but I must say, Caitlin really starting to shine.” But your snarky “see how easy it was for me to compliment Caitlin???” Undermines your compliment entirely.

@@MINNESOTA_PTSDI’ve thought CC was shining since the beginning of the season. In fact, I personally love her game. My comment was not snarky, I was making a direct point. I read the absolutely worse comments towards anything great Angel Reese accomplish from CC fans all the time which is ridiculous.. They are both playing their butts off.. Yes, im an Angel Reese fan at the same time I’m able to appreciate what CC is doing as well without having to speak negative about her or her game.. At the end of the day, they are both two brand new rookies that are breaking records..

one thing you can count on, CC will congratulate AR. for her accomplishments, no matter what they are. plus they'll work together well in the All-Stars. looking forward to seeing that.

@@MINNESOTA_PTSD actually no -- that was a worthwhile comment, to AR and CC fans both. and to haters in particular. it's useful to be reminded that loving one player doesn't mean hating other players.

Yes it's true

Yup, and then of course that player receiving the ball has to secure it and then put it up and score - both of which have been problems for Fever teammates at times. All these reasons are why it's much easier to accumulate rebs vs asts, and hence why it's much easier to accumulate double-doubles in pts & rebs rather than pts & asts.

I can deal with you . Don't look like you are 1 sided

My bad she’s also top 15 in points.

Facts!!

To date Reese has 54 points off put backs that breaks down to 2.3 points per game. So she clearly doesn’t get all her rebounds off her misses. For context Boston is right behind her with 50 points off put backs.

Can we just give credit where it’s due? While Caitlin is clearly ROTY, Angel is having a heck of a rookie year!

Can we just give credit where it’s due? While Caitlin is clearly ROTY, Angel is having a heck of a rookie year!

this is true but you dont want him to alienate all Reese fans or caitlin clark fans. this guy is a basketball fan

@@jameswilson8103 Then look at NBA turnover leaders, names like James Harden, who led the league 6 times, Trae Young, Steve Nash and Russell Westbrook have led the league in turnovers, hardly bad company for CC to keep. It's important to look at usage rates in order to understand how turnovers are accrued. Luka Doncic led the NBA in turnovers this season.

@@jameswilson8103LeBron has the most turnovers in NBA history lmao

@@jameswilson8103 Wrong. She won 3 golds already with the US junior national team, including as the tourney MVP in her last one after her freshman yr at Iowa. And yes, the turnovers are really bad, but she has a good chance of also breaking the all-time assists record this yr too. You talk about comparing apples to apples, ok then here's an actual legit, fair comparison to some of the best ever - Clark's ast-to ratio compared to the rookie year ratios from arguably the women's GOAT, and the current assist record holder: Diana Taurasi: 1.47 Clark: 1.40 Alyssa Thomas: 0.88 You wanted an apples-to-apples comparison, and as you can see, Clark is right there or better than those two. How about them apples?

Yes, but it takes a miss shot to get a rebound.

I should have said teammates. Rebounds happen whether your team or other team misses.

Both CC and Angel will continue to improve. And they're not labs under the basket they're vertical jump shots. And they do push each other around there and they can jump. That's the fever Guard got that block at the end.

Think about this though. How many of caitlin's points come from people setting screens for her. And many of her assists come from someone going 1v1 after the pass. When angel gets her own rebound, no one helps her. The screens help Caitlin to score and another player's 1v1 abilities helps Caitlin's assists.

​@rarerock5020 just say you love Reese and don't have a clue about basketball. Based on your logic Magic Johnson was not good.

@bAkra60 i don't love resse. Just saying caitlin needs help at what she does and responding to the comment. I didn't say caitlin or magic wasn't good. that's what you got from it. But since you're bringing up magic, he's not a good defender either just like caitlin.

@@rarerock5020 is Reese a good defender? Clark makes her teammates better which is something very few in the WNBA have the skill set to do.

@bAkra60 reese can hold her own on defense and she guards the best player's at her position. As far as clark making her teammates better, i guess it depends on who's guarding her. I've seen slow defenders with two left guard her and she shows out. When someone like raven Johnson is on her she doesn't seem to make anyone better.

I wrote for CC and also like Angel. Angel will get better and they're hard difficult shots. They're like vertical jump shots. She needs to get that ball and be quicker on her release. Maybe a little bit of a fade away.

At Clarks pace she'll end up with 310. If she improves, she'll have a shot at all time single season record. imagine that.

@@boohoohoohoo what's the rookie record for most 3s in rookie season, she has 69 so far

@@slayer7682 i dont think she's particularly accurate at 3s

Hmm by your logic no NFL record has ever been broken since the league moved to more games 16 to 17 and thinking about 18

Very doable !!

Who cares if she is. Lebron is the king of turn overs, what is ur point??? To diminish CC🤡

Yep, and she was a turnover machine at Iowa too and it never affected them 🤷‍♂️ Anyone who dominates the ball is turnover prone, LBJ, Luka, Harden, Russ etc. Indiana also as a team are down on turnovers... She also averages more turnovers in wins than losses...

She is with 139. Next highest is Alyssa Thomas with 86.

How long do you think it will take her to overtake the career turnover leader, Taurasi? learn the game, those who handle the ball and make a lot of assists also lead in TO's, it's expected. Hall of fame level turnover numbers, that's what they are.

And blocks and steals for her team. It's ashame that she just could stand under the basket. Then all you have to do is catch your own rebounds and not have to pass to teammates and score 3s😢

Especially if she keeps missing her lay up and catching her rebound.lol

@jonathanlabbe4711 if that makes you feel good. Why is it just Angel Reese i watch other players miss their shots and get their own rebounds. If i am wrong correct me that's is what u supposed to do

A year from now when CC is Reigning ROY and being talked about as an MVP candidate we’re going to look back and wonder how everyone including Mick got rebounding psychosis.

I think that was probably all she was capable of, you know?

Trust me when I say that Aja and the Aces in particular have no interest in any of this side show. They are all about *winning a Ch'ip for the 3rd time in a row* while teams like the Fever and Sky have to concern themselves about making the playoffs.

@@aliciamcdonald7105 good point. and that was CC's goal for her rookie year, was to make the playoffs. she plays for her team, and for women's basketball.

She will not lead in points

CC's assist in college was >8.

Agreed! In the right environment, she could do it no doubt. I want to be optimistic that she’ll end up in that situation and have the opportunity, but it isn’t starting well for her in terms of being in a place where she’s free to score a ton. Time will tell, as it always does.

​​@BrianLewis-ls5pt Have you followed her college career? She had 13 40+ games one 49. 16 triple-doubles! Subtract 1/3 for being the first year in the pros, and you get a sense of her staggering capability. The WNBA, right now, cannot guard her even with being blitz, full-court press, doubled, tripled teamed with the best defenders. Some teams have stopped guarding anyone else but her! When she plays IOWA ball Caitlin is unstoppable and she's still learning on a bad team..

@Beau_Toxx put she will not lead in scoring the wnba is a different beast she cant create for herself