Calafiori & Zirkzee: David Ornstein's transfer updates

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The Athletic FC Podcast

The Athletic FC Podcast

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Man United are working to finalise a deal for Bologna forward Joshua Zirkzee. His performances in Italy have earned him a spot in the Netherlands squad for the Euros. Arsenal have also targeted Riccardo Calafiori, could he fit in with the other defenders at the club?
So, is Zirkzee an upgrade on United’s existing forward options and could Calafiori slot into Arteta's Arsenal?
Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic's David Ornstein and Carl Anka to discuss.
00:00:00 Intro
00:00:10 Joshua Zirkzee’s potential deal
00:03:20 Jarrad Branthwaite & Mathijs De Ligt
00:10:10 Riccardo Calafiori
00:16:05 Strikers at Man Utd
00:19:18 Ivan Toney & Dominic Calvert-Lewin
00:22:30 Could Man Utd have a cashflow problem?
00:25:26 How Joshua Zirkzee could fit in at Man Utd
00:31:35 Are Man Utd playing the long game?
00:34:02 Does this deal make sense for Arsenal?
00:39:19 Outro
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@TheLevano22
@TheLevano22 22 күн бұрын
Braithwaite without even playing Euros is apparently 70M, while Calafiori who carried Italy can't be even 50M, do British fans ever listen to their own arguments?! PS Bologna got into UCL while Everton almost got relegated, again...
@phatbi971
@phatbi971 22 күн бұрын
It’s just British basis
@brothatisfunny
@brothatisfunny 22 күн бұрын
I keep saying that, apparently Braithwaite is the best thing ever, except he wasn't called for the euros... He plays for SEAN DYCHE'S EVERTON!! He plays inside his box with 3 defensive midfielders infront of him, it's WAY EASIER to make defensive stats like that like goddamn McGuire did, and when you put him on a attacking team he struggle
@Hyde_Hill
@Hyde_Hill 19 күн бұрын
Home grown rules makes English players more expensive for prem clubs. And prem clubs in general can ask higher prices. It's still overblown but that is the main things.
@zumateen
@zumateen 17 күн бұрын
You're comparing Arsenal spending to that of Manchester United 😅😅 In addition, there's a homegrown tax added on any english player. Also, Everton can afford to ask for a big price, while Bologna can't keep buyers away for too long. Finally, breaking into the first team for Italy isn't the high standard it used to be, no big italian defenders to compete against.
@alairdottin8101
@alairdottin8101 23 күн бұрын
Carl Anka excellent and animated as usual!!!
@Whadidobaby
@Whadidobaby 22 күн бұрын
Carl is a GOAT man, love how he talks about our beautiful sport
@Sean-wu8qf
@Sean-wu8qf 23 күн бұрын
Could listen to Carl all day
@handfullofsean
@handfullofsean 23 күн бұрын
yessir
@ronanfitzpatrick1261
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 22 күн бұрын
Always
@jimbojimbo6873
@jimbojimbo6873 23 күн бұрын
Could you not find a more flattering pic of Zikrzee?
@jonnohicks2176
@jonnohicks2176 23 күн бұрын
Sorry that calafiori mogged him
@wickedfreestyle102
@wickedfreestyle102 23 күн бұрын
could you not spell his name right
@jimbojimbo6873
@jimbojimbo6873 23 күн бұрын
@@wickedfreestyle102 no I couln’t
@boredofthisnow
@boredofthisnow 23 күн бұрын
Getting a cut of his image rights are you? Or his Mum? 😂
@sugargay7168
@sugargay7168 22 күн бұрын
Imagine caring what picture is used, but not having the respect to spell his name correctly. Do better jambo
@Dylan-ek5fy
@Dylan-ek5fy 22 күн бұрын
Great to see Carl on here. There is no better man at using analogies. Looking forward to the return of Talk of the Devils with Andy and the boys.
@grizzly_magnum9579
@grizzly_magnum9579 23 күн бұрын
Zirkzee dribbling reminds me a bit of Grealish, except hes 6'4 and carrying it like hes 5'10
@legniak1
@legniak1 22 күн бұрын
Anthony looked good dribbling too before he joined United 😂
@andrewhezekiahdaniel
@andrewhezekiahdaniel 22 күн бұрын
​@@legniak1Another dense observer obsessed with United 😁
@surpriserakins9067
@surpriserakins9067 21 күн бұрын
​@@legniak1serie A isn't the Eredivisie
@legniak1
@legniak1 21 күн бұрын
@@surpriserakins9067 I know. Anthony wasn’t even that good for Ajax but it was enough to blow $80M on him
@luthandohlatuka7113
@luthandohlatuka7113 23 күн бұрын
Karl Anka is on and I watch. I am a simple man.
@MrMoneyLong
@MrMoneyLong 23 күн бұрын
Carl* Good fella , i agree
@mastemawolfesq.2408
@mastemawolfesq.2408 23 күн бұрын
​@@MrMoneyLong Fella*
@MrMoneyLong
@MrMoneyLong 23 күн бұрын
@@mastemawolfesq.2408 thank you fellow grammar police 👮
@DisforDelight
@DisforDelight 23 күн бұрын
@@MrMoneyLong fellow grammar police officer*
@jimbojimbo6873
@jimbojimbo6873 23 күн бұрын
Karl is the urban way of saying it
@columcunningham4458
@columcunningham4458 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely Class. Wonderful group of gents. nO bS Smart and relatable. All the best
@L9pis1994
@L9pis1994 23 күн бұрын
asking for a massive commission as a pat on the back for the release clause you yourself agreed to is kinda shady tbh. In the end the total fee comes up to the market value without it so what's the point apart from pocketing as much money as possible instead of the club getting it
@ghost5631
@ghost5631 23 күн бұрын
The release clause is below market value so with the commission, the buying club is still making a saving on the player as players usually go for 10M+ over their market value
@boredofthisnow
@boredofthisnow 22 күн бұрын
You got the point in your last sentence.
@rana1561
@rana1561 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely, tbh, both the dealing clubs here are not the ones in position of advantage. The agent was just sharp enough to include a release clause that was lucrative for the current club when taking risk on a young striker who was looking for regular game time to level up his ability when he wasn't so obviously decent, and the release clause amount was also lucrative enough now for clubs trying to buy him because it saves them a bidding war which would've pushed the overall cost by 20 million. And they are avoiding that by agreeing to agent fees for giving the purchasing club the preference through the agent. In the end you gotta applaud the agent for hitting the bullseye with the risk of a release Clause, or to the agents ability to convince the previous club to feel that they are investing in a potential dudd.
@brothatisfunny
@brothatisfunny 22 күн бұрын
A thing i don't see anyone talking about Braithwaite is how he plays for a super defensive team, what will happen when he plays for a more atacking and exposed one? Same happened to McGuire
@gamerbeans7445
@gamerbeans7445 23 күн бұрын
Ruuuuuud is back at the club. He'll yeach the front lot how to score.
@Friedel69
@Friedel69 21 күн бұрын
Bologna and Stuttgart both raided like a medieval camp without fortifications. Sad.
@groovywithad3942
@groovywithad3942 19 күн бұрын
I see Carl Anka and I’m here guys🙏🏾
@ronakjoshi5198
@ronakjoshi5198 22 күн бұрын
Carl Anka by name top bloke by nature
@mazidmufc
@mazidmufc 22 күн бұрын
David Ornstein- the boss of English transfer market❤️❤️
@d.b.cooper1
@d.b.cooper1 22 күн бұрын
Man like Carl Anka! Top lad!
@bhismarqafful5678
@bhismarqafful5678 23 күн бұрын
ORNESTEIN 😍😍😍😍😍
@ndg9746
@ndg9746 22 күн бұрын
A midfield of Schouten, Mikel Merino and Gomes at Lille would be elite
@sunievibes6940
@sunievibes6940 23 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤GGMU
@notfunny007
@notfunny007 23 күн бұрын
Zirkzee has to improve his finishing to succeed
@Coopdegras
@Coopdegras 22 күн бұрын
Not a United fan but I'd think Ruud coming in as coach could help him with that
@notfunny007
@notfunny007 22 күн бұрын
@@Coopdegras yup
@manunited4life634
@manunited4life634 21 күн бұрын
✅Ugarte ✅Zirkzee ✅De ligt ✅Yoro ✅Neves ✅Doue ✅Ndieye United gone massive in transfer window I wish we hear here we go soonest by Fabrizio Romano on Zirkzee.
@andorrasrevenge1683
@andorrasrevenge1683 23 күн бұрын
Carl is the best
@Michaelkaydee
@Michaelkaydee 22 күн бұрын
Everton can do one... those benchmarks were overpriced obvoiusly... United will give a Take it or leave it offer and move on.
@yemiadio8073
@yemiadio8073 23 күн бұрын
United fans have enjoyed laughing at Arsenal fans with Gabi Jesus. Have fun with Zirkzee 🙃
@hansrama3485
@hansrama3485 22 күн бұрын
we have hojlund as well
@mohammedZxt
@mohammedZxt 22 күн бұрын
Ten Haag should bring in great players and get rid of the likes of Anthony/Martial/Ericksen.
@alairdottin8101
@alairdottin8101 23 күн бұрын
Calvert Lewin is quite injury prone at the moment.
@michaelmun3521
@michaelmun3521 21 күн бұрын
Our Martial replacement is here. Likes low driven shots too just like Tony.
@bbqR0ADK1LL
@bbqR0ADK1LL 22 күн бұрын
Jokes on you , Carl. I'm 5'9" & I suck at dribbling😂
@katibothman5531
@katibothman5531 23 күн бұрын
Zirkzee plays with a much wonderful elegance that is closer to someone like Jack Grealish....... Which Jack Grealish are you talking about? Aston Villa Grealish or Man City Grealish that could not make it to the Euros?
@garv04
@garv04 22 күн бұрын
Villa grealish was brutal
@Brazil520
@Brazil520 23 күн бұрын
Zirzkee is Berbatov without the goalscoring pedigree.
@legniak1
@legniak1 22 күн бұрын
That’s a bold comparison. Haven’t seen a lot of Zirkzee but if he’s half as good as Berba he will be a hell of a signing
@samserwadda253
@samserwadda253 22 күн бұрын
​@@legniak1 he is no where near the technical ability of berbatov. No where near. He is probably a better athlete but is no where near the technical ability of berba.
@Brazil520
@Brazil520 22 күн бұрын
@@samserwadda253 He’s actually very similar in play style to Berbatov. Zirzkee is a very technical player. People say Havertz is but that’s just racial bias.
@Brazil520
@Brazil520 22 күн бұрын
@@legniak1 In play style he is, languid style, he won’t press lol. Amazing first touch and link play.
@archercarne
@archercarne 22 күн бұрын
@@samserwadda253 there isn't lot of players in history with the technical ability of Berbatov. I haven't seen anything like him.
@brapblap0429
@brapblap0429 21 күн бұрын
"when lacazette was at lyon" -is at lyon
@wayneverhoff2790
@wayneverhoff2790 22 күн бұрын
Braitwaithe is cap. Introducing Yoro
@really8930
@really8930 23 күн бұрын
Happy for Everton not to blink, and keep Branthwaite. A bird in the hand (£50m) is worth two in the bush (£70m +). Everton should wise up. The days of Maguire type purchases are over.
@MartinGreen932
@MartinGreen932 23 күн бұрын
He's not Maguire. He's faster than him, stronger than him, doesn't make ricks and will improve into one of the very best in the world (he's already just about as good as anything in the prem) and a much better defender than Stones was at the same age. Any everton fan who watches most of the games will tell you about this kid. We would be happy to get 55-60 for Onana, 30mill+ Pickford, 20mill+ DCL but you will not find one that thinks we should get a penny less than 70mill for Branthwaite.
@MartinGreen932
@MartinGreen932 23 күн бұрын
Pay the money and get an elite player that can Captain your club for years or get someone not as good and is older for 45mill. Then next summer Man City or Real will snap this kid up.
@really8930
@really8930 23 күн бұрын
@@MartinGreen932 No problem. City or Madrid, can “snap him up” for whatever price they want next year. United are not for turning, this time. New days are here. About time too.
@BigPurp9
@BigPurp9 23 күн бұрын
Literally, I’ve been really impressed by him this year but not for that kind of money. If the clubs can’t agree we should move on.
@really8930
@really8930 23 күн бұрын
@@MartinGreen932 Fair enough. Keep him. United will move on.
@saltmerchant749
@saltmerchant749 22 күн бұрын
"Not only the big clubs" Spends the entire show talking about United and Arsenal.
@TiganaaJ
@TiganaaJ 23 күн бұрын
Karl anka looks like an Utd fan...is smelling to the deal of zirkzee 😂😂
@chrisj5816
@chrisj5816 23 күн бұрын
or maybe he’s just a fruit loop because he was smiling for the Arsenal news too
@DisforDelight
@DisforDelight 23 күн бұрын
He is a United fan.
@naseibonsu8120
@naseibonsu8120 22 күн бұрын
He's a United fam!
@gamerbeans7445
@gamerbeans7445 23 күн бұрын
Dominic Calvert Lewin is always injured. Worse injury record than Luke Shaw!!
@Pwnziillaaaa
@Pwnziillaaaa 22 күн бұрын
CALIFIORI CALIFIORI He drinks moretti He eats spaghetti And He fucking hates Chelsea 🔴⚪️
@garv04
@garv04 22 күн бұрын
Is he joining us ??
@r1ckyr0zay9
@r1ckyr0zay9 22 күн бұрын
Zirkzee mewing
@gamerbeans7445
@gamerbeans7445 23 күн бұрын
Varanes contract already expired. He's gone.
@FlashMeterRed
@FlashMeterRed 22 күн бұрын
Well man utd want to be able to win ugly...............
@josephherrick2965
@josephherrick2965 23 күн бұрын
Be nice if we could have a bit less endless man utd speculation
@barneybernado1998
@barneybernado1998 23 күн бұрын
Calvert lewin is pony not on his life would have sir Alex singed that man joker
@manunited4life634
@manunited4life634 21 күн бұрын
Get Ugarte and let sign Amrabat permanently he is stronger than Mctommiey
@Maj1794
@Maj1794 23 күн бұрын
Zirkzee is depay 2.0 😅
@mimikolomamu
@mimikolomamu 23 күн бұрын
you stupid?
@Gloriousibglorious
@Gloriousibglorious 17 күн бұрын
Why is he so out of breathe 😂
@cj2103m
@cj2103m 23 күн бұрын
Zirkzee is going to be an absolute flop tbh. Never been a footballer at that sort of level.
@Rustylad12
@Rustylad12 23 күн бұрын
Hold the phones everyone. KZfaq armchair expert in his infinite scouting wisdom thinks he is going to be a flop
@cj2103m
@cj2103m 23 күн бұрын
@@Rustylad12 he’s been absolutely mediocre everywhere he’s played, with the small exception of this past season, which was almost certainly down to the fact that Thiago Motta is an unbelievable coach. He made Lewis Ferguson of Aberdeen into a €50m player. Just wait. Zirkzee is another Martial in the making.
@SangbaranDasgupta
@SangbaranDasgupta 23 күн бұрын
Hojlund and Zirkzee will rampage in the Europa League, wait and watch.
@InesVandehoof
@InesVandehoof 23 күн бұрын
​@cj2103m lmao i can bet that the only thing you know about the player are the highlight videos you watched on KZfaq 🤣🤣
@Rustylad12
@Rustylad12 23 күн бұрын
@@cj2103m He's a 38m backup striker who is a different profile to Hojlund. Sure he's had to find his way but he's only 23 heading in to his prime. Nothing about his injury record suggests he's a Martial so I don't know what you're on about.
@legniak1
@legniak1 22 күн бұрын
Man Utd should go for Ramsdale
@garv04
@garv04 22 күн бұрын
Facts for 40 mills he's bargain
@shango7942
@shango7942 23 күн бұрын
Put Rasmus on the Right Wing.
@mimikolomamu
@mimikolomamu 23 күн бұрын
you stupid?
@SLM3573
@SLM3573 23 күн бұрын
dude doesnt score, they are adding him to a front line of Rashford who once again cant score, and Hojlund who maybe can score but no one passes to him. They need someone who is going to get 20 plus goals next season and this guy isnt it. De Ligt has been replaced by Eric Dier he is as slow as a week in jail and they already have a slow centre back in Slabby Maguire. Utd are once again going to get their pants pulled swiftly down on buys and sales as there isnt one player Utd are wanting to sell who any club will match the wages
@DisforDelight
@DisforDelight 23 күн бұрын
Strikers of his ilk tend to mature into goalscorers. I'd wait and see with this one.
@ghost5631
@ghost5631 23 күн бұрын
De ligt isn’t slow for a cb. He’s young, strong and his height will compliment Licha well added to the fact they played at Ajax. He was Ajax captain at 19 so he’s another leader to a dressing room filled with moaning children like Rashford
@JamailvanWestering
@JamailvanWestering 23 күн бұрын
They don’t need to have a striker that can get more than 20. What they need is a system and Zirkzee fits that role perfectly for playing the style of Ajax, that allows more switching between the forward.
@uwesmek
@uwesmek 23 күн бұрын
😂 wtf are you on.
@garv04
@garv04 22 күн бұрын
​@@DisforDelightnope
@hussey1990
@hussey1990 22 күн бұрын
75M for overrated English player. Everton can do one ✌🏽
@djliksu6341
@djliksu6341 22 күн бұрын
don't believe word of it until Orstein says it. Credit to your background work. Credit to your discretions. in Or we trust. You have become tier 0.99 journalist
@djliksu6341
@djliksu6341 22 күн бұрын
Fair play to your graft and integrity
@fatboywins
@fatboywins 23 күн бұрын
Why isnt anyone asking why bayern would sell de light?
@ghost5631
@ghost5631 23 күн бұрын
Because they have about 6 cbs on the books with them looking to also buy Jonathan Tah from Leverkusen. They need to offload someone. There’s not much market for Upamecano and Kim so De Ligt is the only sellable one out of them all. Eric Dier just joined so he isn’t on the market
@uwesmek
@uwesmek 23 күн бұрын
They are buying Tah from Leverkusen and he wants a guaranteed spot in the 11.
@fatboywins
@fatboywins 23 күн бұрын
@@uwesmek them this brings about another question gentleman, if they have 6 cbs, why would they be willing to sell de light specifically? Aka he isn't good enough...?
@fatboywins
@fatboywins 23 күн бұрын
@@uwesmek dyer isn't that great imo, tah has had a good season, but fat from proven over years.
@ronanfitzpatrick1261
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 22 күн бұрын
Plenty of alternatives and he has an injury record. United will have to manage hos minutes
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