I got tired of dressing like the meat selection in the grocery store. Clothes so tight looking like a onesie, So much skin revealed looking like a pack of pork chops in the meat depth, all my skin showing where EVERYBODY can see my birthday. Looking no different that a prostitute. Thinking that I looked sexy. I was broken, looking for attention, didn't know my identity was in Christ and since knowing my value and identity isn't my hips, lip, hair... whatever Angela Mayou said.... But my identity and worth is in Christ & who Father God says I am. Now modesty is easy for me & I desire to honor the Lord with my body. It's a heart issue to be honest. ❤❤
@ajburgess72424 ай бұрын
I applaud your entire comment, however, did you mean maya angelou?
@Mentalhealthmattersthemost4 ай бұрын
Lol, yes, I stand corrected. Thank you.
@gucciblueeyes26083 ай бұрын
It sounds similair to my life story, when The Lord saved and healed my heart I became modest. I couldnt wear that ' sexy' stuff anymore. Also stopped with botox, tanning and a lot of make up etc. You can dress yourself beautiful without exposing yourself and to make yourself a lustobject. The Lord has changed me so much and I don t regret that ❤️🙏🙌 God bless you sister !!!! All praises to our Lord and Savior .. Warm love from the Netherlands 🇳🇱
@MentalhealthmattersthemostАй бұрын
@@gucciblueeyes2608 Bless you, that's amazing and remember this, what's already beautiful, can not be made more beautiful. It's already beautiful. Father God created you beautiful, & everything that He created, He said it is good.
@alejandrogaricia22524 ай бұрын
Its uncomfortable when i go to the house of God and sitting infront of me a woman showing all her stuff
@iThinkBiblically4 ай бұрын
Well that’s obviously wrong for her to do. I don’t even bother returning to churches that allow that stuff.
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit694 ай бұрын
I get excited and full of lust.
@hermanotyler4 ай бұрын
I've been preaching modesty for years. The way women dressed in Jesús time was clear. They never caused anyone to lust. Only the prostitutes dressed differently. Even the prostitutes didn't show as much as your typical woman of today
@iThinkBiblically4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@TheElizabethashby4 ай бұрын
@@iThinkBiblically I AGREE TOO
@TheRealRenn4 ай бұрын
"They never caused anyone to lust".....then how was it possible for a man to "look upon a woman with lust" as Christ said? I agree with dressing modestly, but how far are we going to take it? Are we going to have them cover their ankles and wrists as the Islamists demand....so as not to cause their reprobate male followers to lust?
@susanmudau90004 ай бұрын
Things have changed
@hermanotyler4 ай бұрын
@@susanmudau9000 God is the same forever. Clothing may have changed but the goal should be to cover up. We shouldn't show much of our body
@PastorBrian19694 ай бұрын
Before I start my comment, I will first disclose that I am an ordained Baptist pastor and evangelist. My beliefs are very conservative, probably much more so than the average, run of the mill IFBB. But like Christ, I tend to focus on the heart, rather than the rules of Pharisees, whether they be First or Twenty-first Century. I have pastored KJV (which I still preach from exclusively) Independent Baptist Churches, and done revivals in many others. I am now ostracized by those same churches as a "compromiser", as I preach the Gospel in any group or denomination that is willing to hear the Truth of God's Word. As far as the subject at hand, my wife is the most Godly woman I have ever met. She is the very epitome of a Proverbs 31 woman, and a great soul winner. Most of the time she wears dresses and skirts as a matter of choice, but will occasionally wear dress slacks. My wife loves the Lord, but was devastated at a "Women's Retreat" where there were above 500 women. Yes, my wife wore slacks, and was only one out of two women who wore slacks that day. Guess what the message was? Yup, pretty much you are a Harlotrous Jezebel if you are a woman who wears slacks. My beautiful, soul-winning, Jesus loving wife was made to feel like a whore by a bunch of women who haven't done 1/100 of 1 percent of the ministry for Christ's Kingdom as she has. Just as an observation, most of the women there were FAT, and not just a little. Never heard a sermon on that sin at a IFBB event. Guess it is easier to point fingers at pants then the rampant gluttony of most Baptists.
@PastorBrian19694 ай бұрын
@bootsie280 No, she is a mature Christian who is well aware of the attacks of Satan. Just last night, after working all day at a high stress job, we took a bus load of kids to the park and told them about Jesus. Most of these kids wouldn't be welcome at IFBB churches either, as some are mixed race, and none are wearing black suits and cullotes. I learned sound doctrine as an ordained IFBB, but their rigidness (they call it standards, sheesh) and hateful attitudes toward everyone and everything drove us far away from that cult-like setting.
@lenajanssens78594 ай бұрын
I think you are conservative but not legalistic tho. What I found a good thing. My church lets women teach men and pastor. Do you think I am legalistic for leaving the church ? Thank you in advance
@lenajanssens78594 ай бұрын
Do you recommend a youtube channel I can follow ?
@PastorBrian19694 ай бұрын
@lenajanssens7859 No, you are not a legalistic for leaving a "church" that allows women to preach to and teach men. It is clearly unbiblical, as the Lord has created us for equal, yet different roles in the church. Some ministries I highly recommend are as follows, in no particular order: Adrian Rogers-Love Worth Finding. Gone to be with the Lord nearly 20 years ago, but still as relevant as ever. Dr. John Barnett- DTBM Jack Hibbs- Real Life I also like Charles Stanley (but stay FAR away from his son Andy!), David Jeremiah, the Christian Worship Hour, and others. However, there are a lot of false teachers out there, and I would line everything up with Scripture. Just recently, a man I admired and listened to for decades promoted the false doctrine of Universalism, that everyone is saved, whether they have heard of Jesus or not. Of course, if you are really desperate, you can listen to my KZfaq channel, Messages From the Bible. I preach the same Gospel as those other fellas I mentioned, however, I am just not nearly as well spoken or charismatic. I pastor a small, but evangelistic church, that brings in a bunch of kids, and we see folks come to saving faith in Christ frequently. None of these men are perfect, but the ones I mentioned are solid and will not lead you astray. Just for info, I did not grow up in a conservative, Bible preaching church, but in a denomination that had many false doctrines, including that of women pastors. When I threw aside denominational beliefs, and instead trusted the Scripture, I got saved (Nov. 26th, 1994) and have been proclaiming Jesus the best I can since.
@lenajanssens78594 ай бұрын
@@PastorBrian1969 Thank you very much ! I am in hunger for a solid teacher. No matter how elquont tge preacher or how big the church. So thank you very much. And yes you still need to verify even a pastor you trust cause you never know ! Thank you and I will follow you too !!
@rosea23503 ай бұрын
Pants are fine as long as they’re not tight and are worn with tops long enough to cover the behind and hips.
@MentalhealthmattersthemostАй бұрын
That part 💯. When I wear mines, top covers the front & back. Cute tops tho. 😅
@Kilospan59414 ай бұрын
I lean towards baptist fundamentalism so this video was very informative for me. I agree with you, and you answered all the questions I had about this subject. Thanks for using the KJV as well, it helped a lot.
@iThinkBiblically4 ай бұрын
That is for this comment. Glad you appreciated me using the Kjv
@TheWally7554 ай бұрын
Good video. Thank you. ... I tried not to, but I basically argued with a Christian brother over this last year. I was just turned off by how legalistic he was. I have never thought that women wearing pants made them like men, and I don't view them as being provocative for wearing them either. I have always understood that modesty is the main point.
@gailwatson49274 ай бұрын
I was taught that I could not wear pants, but thankfully I left that nonsense behind.
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit694 ай бұрын
Good for you. Pentecostals are full of extra biblical stuff I found and they look down on others who don’t
@CalledUntoHoliness4 ай бұрын
Modesty is not nonese . Modesty is biblical.
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit694 ай бұрын
@@CalledUntoHoliness Modesty isn’t not wearing pants. It’s about not flaunting your wealth. I get looked down on for wearing a 2 dollar thrift shop short sleeve dress shirt yet the others wear expensive fitted suits. Don’t be a whore yes but pants isn’t automatic whore or cross dresseing woman.
@dooior40924 ай бұрын
@@CalledUntoHoliness there are skirts that are more erotic and exposing and immoral than pants
@emperorofmodding7803 ай бұрын
@@dooior4092 skirts in general are more modest
@cassandramagnusson17874 ай бұрын
I would like to throw an "argument " into this conversation (and i am a HUGE fan of Calebs channel so i am not challenging or anything like that!) My mom was always VERY strict on my sister and i when we were growing up in how we dressed, as well as being involved in church programs and AWANA being strict on the length of shorts, etc. we did not have yo wear only skirts or dresses (and my sister and i kinda steered away from them cause of our local baptist church, everyone knew who was a part of that church just by how the girls looked, think Duggars! Lol 😂) we always looked like lovely and Godly ladies. This included our hair and jewelry, etc. As a 40 year old with two girls of my own, the way I and now my girls dress is the same! But, heres my argument. Its mostly againt the whole "we must'en let men stumble by our dress". Sinve ive been of legal age, so not a child or teenager, the amount of men who would be considered my elders in church and out of, that say nasty inappropriate and unacceptable things to me, even tho I have nothing showing nor given a "reason" to cause them to stumble, it still happens. And its disgusting! So the argument about being proper to keep men from stumbling, I believe is foul and giving men who are perverted an excuse to blame their issues on someone besides themselves.
@iThinkBiblically4 ай бұрын
I think both the tempter and the one who falls into sin as a result of that temptation are in the wrong. When Satan tempts us we have a choice but that doesn't mean that Satan didn't do anything wrong when he tempted us. I think its good your family dresses modestly. Praise God. But yes, even then people will still sin.
@ImCarolB4 ай бұрын
I am a woman in her 70s and haven't worn a dress in years. I wear pants for comfort and modesty, as I am able to move freely and know I am covered. My entire type of dress is feminine, and even when engaged in rough, dirty activities such as gardening or hiking, no one would mistake me for a man. When I lived in a tropical country, I wore skirts because the air flow was cooling. Men there came home from work, shed the trousers, showered, and put on a wrapped "skirt" for comfort.
@balualfredsdk37514 ай бұрын
I think that modern women decided to wear whatever they wanted as a way to advance feminism. We have to be careful about how we digest the word of God. If you feel confused by any biblical subject, please pray, fast, God is faithful to instruct you. Please do not just argue, pray to the LORD, he will guide you through righteousness. Thank you.
@kathleenking4712 күн бұрын
It's not a sin, however, women en masse seemed to have stopped wearing dresses around 1990 We used to wear dresses/skirts or pants I still wonder, if some of this could cause confusion in young children? If women/girls, don't wear skirts/dresses at least some times
@rochelleb98434 ай бұрын
Context is very very important when reading the scriptures. So so many people distort God's word and misinterpret it. Some DRILL it into their congregations as if they are disobedient if they don't wear dresses and some forbid make up as well!
@mariekatherine52383 ай бұрын
No, pants that are loose fitting, not skin tight, are fine for every day, casual wear, cold weather, certain activities. Dresses or skirts are better for church, going out. They’re more feminine. They do not need to be ankle length! No shorter than knee length. Miniskirts are not modest. Pants/skirts are Western culture. In other countries, both wear skirts/robes, or both wear loose fitting pants and a tunic on top.
@MsCellobass4 ай бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up. Too bad that some ladies do not heed to be modest in their dressing. They should think of the brothers that could stumble.
@TheRealRenn4 ай бұрын
How far to take it so "the brothers" don't have to stumble because of their OWN lack of self control? Maybe the Burka...making sure the wrists and ankles are covered...."so the brothers don't stumble"
@jeanettecook88914 ай бұрын
Some very good points made on this video. We also need to remember that we are living in NT times, under the New covenant, not under the OT law, which was given to Israel. Verses like 1 Timothy 2:8 - "...that women adorn themselves in modest apparel..."(KJV), is relevant to us. Modesty is the key, I believe, according to the Bible standard. So whether dresses, skirts and tops, or pants and tops, they should be modest, having proper coverage, and not to put a 'stumbling block' in any man's way. Even in how we dress, every part of a Christian's life should be to honour the Lord. Blessings.
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
So murder, stealing, adultery, sleeping with your own sister, being a sodomite is now ok? How do wile determine which laws still apply, because let’s be honest, most of God’s laws are given in the OT
@ambiencemusic3764 ай бұрын
Just look at public bathrooms doors one has dress one has pants do the women go in the one with pants 👖
@Janalyn1212Ай бұрын
That's going a little too far that's just symbolic we're getting religious here didn't Jesus say let it be the hidden man of the heart? We have to go by the times we live in too . Of course there's homosexual men which of course I do not agree with but they wear pants that look feminine you can tell so there is a difference between masculine and feminine pants
@wendymtzc21 күн бұрын
@@Janalyn1212homos and heterosexuals wear skinny jeans nowadays so thats a bad argument IMO
@thundershadow4 ай бұрын
It is a sin for a woman to wear men's attire. Just as it is a sin for a man to wear women's attire. It does not mention pants. But the principle is don't masquerade as the opposite gender. The sin is in the intent to deceive. There is a parallel to that. it appears in 1 Corinthians 1whereas what we are talking about appears in 1 Corinthians 11. In 1 Paul handles the inception of denominationalism. 'is Christ divided'? 'Was Paul Crucified for you'? Today we have denominations that masquerade as the church. Both topics are about deception.
@TheRealRenn4 ай бұрын
Good point....well thought out.
@Richie_Alpha_Rabbit694 ай бұрын
Exactly it’s the intention of the person
@randyd98054 ай бұрын
I believe you're right that the "breeches" (britches) were basically an undergarment. I think they likely covered the entire loin and thigh area and were not some type of trousers. I was an Independent Baptist. Although some might accuse them of going too far most simply tried to obey the Bible the best it was understood and to follow the leadership that has been around for many years. Hebrews 13:17 "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you." I personally think that a woman can be just as provocative in a dress as in women's slacks or even more provocative. Then again, the same can be said of way too tight slacks, low-cut blouses, too sheer of material, etc. Modesty and setting out to please the Lord with the way you dress is the crucial thing.
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
Being an undergarment makes no sense since the Bible says it’s supposed to cover your nakedness, underwear is not meant to cover one’s nakedness, that’s what the skirt or pant’s job is
@randyd98052 ай бұрын
@@wendymtzc You are thinking about modern undergarments, not what the passage is talking about.
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
@@randyd9805 no, I’m citing a clear verse and the description does not fit that for underwear, we can agree to disagree, have a good night
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
@@wendymtzc I agree with you. I think the pastor is missing the passage that equates the display of the thigh with nakedness. Also, he says that the priests might expose more than intended (i.e., their private parts) if the command for the "underpants" were not given. I think that is not only pure conjecture, but if the priests wore a long robe, how realistic is it to think that a person could see very far up that robe unless they were lying on their back right between the priest's legs and looking up there with a flashlight? When I was in jr/ hi public school in the early 1960s, there were stairs going up to the second floor classrooms. All girls wore skirts and dresses back then - it was the dress code. I knew of some boys who wanted to look up the girls' skirts but they never got much of a view past the knee. Of course I believe that was wrong, and almost all of the boys I knew had more respect for the girls than to do such a thing. I didn't have sisters, but many of my buddies did and they would clean some dude's clock if they knew he was doing such a thing to his sister. Times have really changed.
@travisrassel99784 ай бұрын
I think it is normal for women to wear dresses. And wear pants, if they want to. Dresses as in normal dresses, not slutty dresses.
@worm_and_no_man4 ай бұрын
No sinful pants for women
@cvagresto4 ай бұрын
I was told a long time ago, that if you think everything is a sin, then it's a sin your mind. God is loving, forgiving and merciful. Maybe these holy then thou people forgot that.
@newtonneal94674 ай бұрын
Greetings! I liked the distinctions made and biblical breakdown of the topic. I also appreciated the acknowledged nuances involved in this particular situation. Western civilization accepts pants as masculine apparel to the degree, as you mentioned, those in the middle east regions that wear tunics and robes seem feminine to us because of the distinctions made. I hold to the notion that a woman's femininity is on full display when she is clothed in a dress or long skirt. This is, to me, for the public. At home, my wife and daughters wear loose fitting pants and I have no issue with that. This is, as you've mentioned, something that must be concluded for each believer and if there is any definitive stance to be held, the Holy Spirit will make it clear to all that seeks clarity. It must be noted that women that choose to dress in long flowing apparel are not harassed or sexualized by men quite as much as those that choose to wear close fitting apparel, this is in regards to pants, dresses, skirts, and blouses.
@ifiok-dan79264 ай бұрын
Tight pants that accentuates a woman's body is immodest and same goes for men. How we dress shows what's on the inside. Now, those who wear such nonsense, should not wear it when we gather to worship God. DO NOT CAUSE A BREATHREN TO STUMBLE FOR THIS IS A SIN!
@Janalyn1212Ай бұрын
Most of the time that's true but not always and the reason why most of the time that's true is because most are sinful. But I tell you I like wearing my jeans and I do not have a provocative part at all, I can assure you of that one
@Janalyn1212Ай бұрын
If anyone judged me for my clothing especially if I don't have my breasts hanging out which I don't believe in, I wouldn't go to the church if I'm being judged by the clothing why should I go?t I'm not hearing anything about love. Isn't God love? Just because we wear a dress on the outside it doesn't mean we're transformed on the inside
@Janalyn1212Ай бұрын
If men stumble then maybe they need to deal with the sin of lust in the heart and if we want to talk about the outside, what about the sin of gluttony? See this is what I'm saying. If you're going to judge one sin another one can be judged as well we can't live the law in the flesh for in religion which is based on a flesh it has to be a transformed h e a r t
@TheBibleHarpistАй бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. I personally wear sweaters and sweatpants as I dont want to draw unwsnted attention from anyone due to my body type, and unfortunately most dresses tend to accentuate my figure, which I don't want. Biblical Modesty is important.
@mikecarr11453 ай бұрын
Maybe not pants like jeans, but what about thin yoga pants where they show a little bit much 😮
@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics4 ай бұрын
Don't stop making this great content! ❤️
@ayokunlejinmi46154 ай бұрын
You should do a video on whether women need to cover their hair from a Biblical perspective
@mikeyhorton7797Ай бұрын
They also use first Timothy 2:9, they say that the word modest apparel means long flowing garment in the Greek.
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
You are correct. The Greek word is "katastole" and is used of a woman's garment. The frequently used phrase "gird up the loins" is sometimes a metaphor, as in Ephesians 6:14, but in other places it is literal, as in Job 38:3 & 40:7 (KJV) "Gird up your loins like a man." Other translations render the figurative translation indicating preparedness, or readiness. That's one of the challenges of OT Hebrew is that the vocabulary is limited to just a few thousand words, and much is left to the translator for interpretation. However, the imagery, whether literal or figurative, is based on the common practice of men gathering the loose ends of their tunics and binding them up between their legs and securing them with the belt (girdle - hence the verb "gird"). The Davis Bible Dictionary actually has a 20th century photo of men in a robe/tunic who still dress in this way. For such a phrase to have come into the vernacular of both OT and NT idioms, it is highly probably that it was a common practice among men of the day. The only reference to a women "girding the loins" is in Proverbs 31:17 "She girds herself with strength, and strengthens her arms." The phrase "girds herself with strength" is very clearly a metaphor just as it is in Ephesians 6:14. The way one can distinguish a metaphoric usage is by trying to picture the phrase in a strict literal sense. In Ephesians 6:14-17 the list of items for the armor of God are all metaphorically used. One cannot picture a literal "shield of faith," shoes that look like the "Gospel of peace," a "helmet of salvation," or loins "girded with truth." This would be like trying to picture the "smell of blue," or the "taste of dark."
@eagledescending57664 ай бұрын
The video commentator made some good points. However, the Scriptures are NOT going to forbid pants in a literal sense. Why? Because pants were not worn in the Middle East, which was Israel’s locale and still is until the time of the medo-Persian empire, which was centuries AFTER Moses’ time when he gave the levitical-priesthood laws. The Scripture read in Deuteronomy did state-Pertaineth. Therefore, if pants for men were worn by women in Moses’ time, then it would have been a FORBIDDEN practice. Garments pertaining to the male and female genders are in alignment with society’s socio-political structure, which obviously changes throughout the centuries. In essence, the Scriptures are NOT going to detail socio-political trends of society for obvious reasons. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that it’s a cardinal sin for women to wear pants, but I will say that it is a cardinal sin for a CHRISTIAN woman to wear pants if she’s wearing them two to three sizes SMALLER, if so, then it’s obvious there’s an ulterior motive in her heart, and that’s what God will judge. One has to look at the historical continuity of pants before assessing it with the Scriptures. However, I do agree with the video commentator’s implication that one should do what your human-moral conscious states because, technically, there’s still nothing wrong with women wearing dresses or skirts (but NOT the revealing ones), yes, that I do certainly agree with. Lord bless!!!
@truthinthefaceoftyranny4 ай бұрын
..... I used to be in a church that forbid women from church ministry, even teaching Sunday school, if wearing pants. I was completely shocked when I realized when Deuteronomy was written, both men and women looked very similarly dressed in ROBES. There were subtle differences but still long robes.
@terrilynch78454 ай бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS BIBLICAL TEACHING!!! I attend a Southern Baptist Church & sometimes attend an Independent Baptist Church with male neighbors. They accept me wearing pants. This clarifies this stance on wearing dresses for females that they preach & teach.
@user-wk1li2cm5o4 ай бұрын
There are scriptures that speak to modesty and avoiding the appearance of evil in the NT. Thank you for sharing this video.
@tammycovington32884 ай бұрын
I keep telling people the Bible speaks of modesty for women and men of God. We are NOT to stumble people in church and outside of church and excite them to lust and sin. We are supposed to consider one another and our neighbor in all things including dress. However it is NOT a sin if a woman wears pants that’s NOT what the scripture is saying. Don’t forget your clothing will NOT be judged but OUR hearts will be judged for God doesn’t look at outer appearance but God looks at the ❤heart.. Amen👏👏👏💯😊🙌 By the way as a woman of God I wear modest pants happily with no conviction of The Holy Spirit. I have seen women wearing long dresses sweeping the floor hair long like Rapunzel and their attitudes are horrible but they have long dresses on…lol. What a contradiction and hypocrisy..smh
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
Bible states, "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God"… what garment is this talking about?
@tammycovington32882 ай бұрын
@@wendymtzc Thanks for asking… the Bible is speaking about just what it says … cross dressing. Men wearing women clothing and women wearing men clothing. Pants are universal made for both men and women just like T- shirts. Clothing based on gender specific clothing for a male or female appropriately 😊👍
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
@@tammycovington3288 no, it’s not about cross dressing, it clearly speaks of a garment so if it’s not pants then what is it
@tammycovington32882 ай бұрын
@@wendymtzc To each its own Wendy… It is NOT speaking specifically of pants and in those times men often wore long tunics which is similar to a dress by as stated in my original comment God looks at the heart not physical appearance. Modesty is important to God and it should be important to us as well regarding our dress😊
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
@@tammycovington3288 I agree, it does not specifically mention pants or dresses but that’s exactly the implication IMO given the fact that the Bible nowhere teaches both men and women wore long tunics or robes, as a matter of fact Jesus specifically reproves men for wearing long robes, the word pants was not yet invented, it does not mean that garment didn’t exist back then, pants are mentioned in the Bible, just with a different name (hosen and breeches) and I totally agree that what’s inside our heart is more important than our appearance… have a blessed night
@Imagodeigen4 ай бұрын
I recently addressed our sisters to talk to one of the young girls in our youth about her dress code
@BigBoss891894 ай бұрын
It's better for women to wear blue jeans, dress pants, and slacks than to wear yoga pants - respectively.
@worm_and_no_man4 ай бұрын
No jeans or sinful pants. Dresses below the knees are allowed
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
And it's better for women to wear yoga pants than no pants. Do you see what you have submitted to here? That is moral relativism, straight and simple - which is what so many of the uncritically thinking commenters have espoused here, most, unwittingly - because they have never been taught basic logic and critical thinking skills. Such skills provide the necessary tools for proper interpretation of the Bible, particularly on difficult topics. If there are no objective moral standards, then the Deuteronomy passage being discussed is irrelevant. In fact so are all the other passages which declare certain acts as "abomination unto the LORD."
@christiantruther93674 ай бұрын
Great show and I agree! And i'm glad your using the true translation, the KJV
@retisimanu30804 ай бұрын
Why is this still a topic for discussion in 2024, be happy people cover their privates at all
@ceasarbrantley63084 ай бұрын
Great discernment Caleb. My mother wears women's pants, and so I grew up witnessing that and never thought it immoral for her or any other woman for that matter. Still a challenge getting them to accept and practice the head-covering custom however.
@rhondak49404 ай бұрын
Yes. So true. No 🚫 cross- dressing
@user-zv5th9jx7v2 ай бұрын
Pants were created for men..
@CalledUntoHoliness4 ай бұрын
The principle of having a difference between the attires of men and women is Biblical. There is no sin in wearing long dresses for women and pants for men. What is the issue? It fulfills the principle of scripture. In the old testament also, the priest wore breeches as under garments.
@Tilbily4 ай бұрын
Good points. Modesty is key imo. I'm older and have been in various circles over the decades. One observation my wife ad I noted re "women/dresses-only" crowd is seeing some women wears jeans etc at home during a supper invite, or sometimes an evening church service. That kind of reminded me of my late Father's observation re very charismatic Christians and signs/gifts : he said he noticed they do no such thing meeting the same people in the street or when grocery shopping.
@logan39554 ай бұрын
How many country songs have to be made about women in blue jeans before people get it? Seek modesty women
@MomLAU4 ай бұрын
I can't help noticing that the church people with strict dress codes are often the same church people who are racially prejudiced (although some of them deny it). That's not true in all cases, but it is in some. People need to focus less on what they (and others) wear and more on how they view and treat others!
@donaldwortham24094 ай бұрын
From the picture the Egyptians wore skimpy clothing with possible pagan emblem and possible with no under covering. Zephaniah 1:8 And it shall come to pass in the day of the Lord's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.
@Chazd194925 күн бұрын
Wow . . . After watching the video, I copied the transcript above, read it carefully and found so many logical fallacies and wrote so many comments and rebuttals that it would occupy way too much space here. If this pastor has a website with contact information, I would respectfully submit them to him for a reply.
@sisterrose68362 ай бұрын
Why is this argument always against the women wearing pants, and not the men wearing skirts? Just asking!
@iThinkBiblically2 ай бұрын
Well, in some cultures men where kilts. In many Arab countries men do not wear trousers. It’s based on the culture. What is considered manly and feminine in that culture?
@Standing_on_the_word4 ай бұрын
When I saw this tittle i actually laughed i cant believe its even an issue. Though having said that i think some pants are to revealing & all clothing that arouses sensuality should be kept in your bedroom not worn in public. One should dress with your fellow Christian brother or sister in mind we dont want to put temptation infront of them. I've been in church sat behind young ladies who are wearing pants so tight its hard not to look as a man & a ladies shaply bum, lets face it men, is very attractive to us & can arouse us which is not good ( same rule for men by the way not just ladies regarding dress ).
@iThinkBiblically4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s actually a big deal in some circles.
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
You laugh about it but then go on to explain exactly why it’s wrong
@Standing_on_the_word2 ай бұрын
@@wendymtzc so what !
@glenw-xm5zf4 ай бұрын
Tell a woman she can't wear slacks ( designed for o=women) and won't waste my time in that church. My rule is use good sense. they can fit a bit snug, but don't spray paint them on. The ones who would argue this; from such turn away
@kimwolf17084 ай бұрын
Very educational. Thank you.
@ambiencemusic3764 ай бұрын
The verse says a man shall not wear what belongs to women nor should a woman wear what belongs to a man now think about this pants were originally created for men therefore if you are wearing pants as a woman you are wearing what belongs to a man it’s a reason there a zipper in the front of pants can women actually use that zipper for what it was created for their a reason GOD don’t want you to wear each other clothes because it’s spiritual if a man puts on a dress he will feel feminine a woman wearing pants puts her In her masculine energy look at these women today there all masculine
@dinaschirripa95Ай бұрын
WEL SAID AND WELL PUT ............
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
Good logic, I commend your critical thinking skills. May I add a bit more? If pants and skirts are both women's garments (as many have claimed in these comments), then what exactly is a man's garment? If a man wears a skirt, you can be sure he will be accused of dressing like a woman; but, if he wears pants HE IS STILL dressing like a woman. What choices does he have? Many among the Gen Z youth clearly see the hypocrisy, but instead of calling it out as wrong, they have jumped headlong into the LGBTQ agenda and are all for men wearing anything they want since women have been able to do that for decades. The only cure is for Christians to wise-up, straighten-up, and be different. Rom. 12:1-2.
@ws7754 ай бұрын
Another proof scripture that has been used for men only wearing pants is Job 38;3 when God told him “gird up your loins like a man”. They say a woman would not gird up her loins. A man would often times while working fold his tunic up into a waistband, thus making two pant legs. A woman would not do this. Of course the context of the verse in Job is really saying “answer me like a man”. It is also interesting that skirts are mentioned in the Bible, but being worn by a man.
@intothekey4 ай бұрын
That's a stretch. Girding one's loins is about being manly it's not about outfit.
@thundershadow4 ай бұрын
* “gird up your loins like a man”. * We have a modern equivalent to that phrase... 'Stop being a wuss'.
@wendymtzc2 ай бұрын
Men wore pants and they could gird up their loins because they still have pants covering their thighs
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
Excellent statement. I wrote the following in response to another comment above, --------------- The frequently used phrase "gird up the loins" is sometimes a metaphor, as in Ephesians 6:14, but in other places it is literal, as in Job 38:3 & 40:7 (KJV) "Gird up your loins like a man." Other translations render the figurative translation indicating preparedness, or readiness. That's one of the challenges of OT Hebrew is that the vocabulary is limited to just a few thousand words, and much is left to the translator for interpretation. However, the imagery, whether literal or figurative, is based on the common practice of men gathering the loose ends of their tunics and binding them up between their legs and securing them with the belt (girdle - hence the verb "gird"). The Davis Bible Dictionary actually has a 20th century photo of men in a robe/tunic who still dress in this way. For such a phrase to have come into the vernacular of both OT and NT idioms, it is highly probably that it was a common practice among men of the day. The only reference to a women "girding the loins" is in Proverbs 31:17 "She girds herself with strength, and strengthens her arms." The phrase "girds herself with strength" is very clearly a metaphor just as it is in Ephesians 6:14. The way one can distinguish a metaphoric usage is by trying to picture the phrase in a strict literal sense. In Ephesians 6:14-17 the list of items for the armor of God are all metaphorically used. One cannot picture a literal "shield of faith," shoes that look like the "Gospel of peace," a "helmet of salvation," or loins "girded with truth." This would be like trying to picture the "smell of blue," or the "taste of dark."
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
@@intothekey The frequently used phrase "gird up the loins" is sometimes a metaphor, as in Ephesians 6:14, but in other places it is literal, as in Job 38:3 & 40:7 (KJV) "Gird up your loins like a man." Other translations render the figurative translation indicating preparedness, or readiness. That's one of the challenges of OT Hebrew is that the vocabulary is limited to just a few thousand words, and much is left to the translator for interpretation. However, the imagery, whether literal or figurative, is based on the common practice of men gathering the loose ends of their tunics and binding them up between their legs and securing them with the belt (girdle - hence the verb "gird"). The Davis Bible Dictionary actually has a 20th century photo of men in a robe/tunic who still dress in this way. For such a phrase to have come into the vernacular of both OT and NT idioms, it is highly probably that it was a common practice among men of the day. The only reference to a women "girding the loins" is in Proverbs 31:17 "She girds herself with strength, and strengthens her arms." The phrase "girds herself with strength" is very clearly a metaphor just as it is in Ephesians 6:14. The way one can distinguish a metaphoric usage is by trying to picture the phrase in a strict literal sense. In Ephesians 6:14-17 the list of items for the armor of God are all metaphorically used. One cannot picture a literal "shield of faith," shoes that look like the "Gospel of peace," a "helmet of salvation," or loins "girded with truth." This would be like trying to picture the "smell of blue," or the "taste of dark."
@theresa422132 ай бұрын
THANK YOU Caleb! l was just walking down the street, and 2 guys came up to me and asked if l knew about Jesus, when l said ''Yes!'' ...they immediately said ''You must repent, and wear a dress!''. l asked which denomination they were ...they said ''None! They are all wicked! We are Christian.'' l told them that l was working on bigger sin in my heart'' They said ''Well put on a dress, and it will make it easy for you to repent from the harder sins.''. l asked ''Where do you go to Church?'' they said ''No where! All the Churches are wicked, and Jesus said He would spew them out, as They're all babel buildings''. l said ''Yes the lukewarm ones''. Then they said it was good l didn't cut my hair, but l need to take off all my jewellery. ie: My cross, and my few rings, and small earrings. We spoke Scripture for a bit and they kept pointing out that l needed to be lady like etc. _WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE CALEB?_ Where can l find this bunch on line? Do they think the internet is wicked? Do they even have a confession? Sorry for talking so much. :) ...oh they said that John MacArthur was a deceiver too. Wierd.
@iThinkBiblically2 ай бұрын
Sounds like the a cult! lol
@theresa422132 ай бұрын
@@iThinkBiblically ~ Thank you for taking the time reading my comment Caleb. l wish l knew if l could look them up on line. They are not SDA but they have some of the same rules, like the jewellery. Have a blessed day. :)
@Janalyn1212Ай бұрын
Honestly the practicality of today and not only that for safety sake I think it's okay for women to wear pants as long as they're feminine pants because it's easier for a man to get to a woman if she's wearing a dress especially walking down the street out in public. We live in perilous times it's dangerous
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, you are correct about living in dangerous times. However, the frequency of rape and assault, percentage-wise, has greatly increased over the past several decades, in spite of the fact that, by far, most women who are raped or assaulted are wearing pants. Could it be, that a few generations ago, when women almost exclusively wore skirts and dresses out shopping and in public, that men were more respectful and protective of women? Since the late 1960s, women have been influenced by the humanistic propaganda of the second-wave feminists who shunned marriage and child-rearing, and placed more value on materialistic values and worldly success. In the course of that "progress" - falsely so-called - they also shunned dressing femininely and modestly - and even worse, shamed women who chose to be wives and mothers and especially those who did not adopt the feminists' sacred cow of wearing trousers. I actually know something about all this since I was born before 1950 and witnessed this first-hand.
@malissiajones77614 ай бұрын
I was around back in the day when this issue came to the forefront of christian culture. With a little research and application of logic, I came to the understanding and conclusion that pants and skirts were society's standard, not God's. And more than a little bit geared to the fleshly pleasures of men. I reject this. At nearly 66, I wear jeans, suspenders and flannel shirts unashamedly. I still look like a girl and I don't have to worry about "unwanted attention" from men I'm not married to and my little micro farm can have my attention without me tripping over a long skirt.
@TaiwoA.A.Ademiluyi4 ай бұрын
Hi. Can you do a video about hair cutting? Leviticus 19:27 KJV [27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard. Leviticus 19:27 NIV [27] “ ‘Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
All who rely on works of the law are under a curse. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law" ---Galatians 3
@TaiwoA.A.Ademiluyi4 ай бұрын
@TheRealRenn So are you saying I can commit murder? Matthew 5:17-20 KJV [17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
@TheRealRenn4 ай бұрын
@@TaiwoA.A.Ademiluyi I did not say anything...period. I quoted the Apostle Paul from Galatians chapter 3. Perhaps it best, since you appear to be good at throwing out multiple verses after asking a question, to go read Galatians again.
@TaiwoA.A.Ademiluyi4 ай бұрын
@@TheRealRenn I wish you a good day.
@elizabethmcnamara65485 күн бұрын
Jesus didn't wear trousers either he wore a tunic or Toga with a outer robe. So please don't tell women to not wear trousers when men aren't supposed to wear them either.
@alexanderwright90644 ай бұрын
Gluttony is sinful .
@gospeltruth93454 ай бұрын
I grew up in the Greek orthodox church and we weren't allowed to wear pants. They can't tell you why though
@jdbishop26974 ай бұрын
As a man I certainly don't have anything against females wearing pants as long as they are able to still look feminine and different from the kind that males wear. Furthermore I certainly also don't have anything against females doing the traditional thing of wearing dresses, either, because they still are the most representative attire of femininity. The dresses just need to be totally modest for the occasion. Dresses for females are great as long as they still appear respectable and are adequately modest for the wearer. Has anyone ever noticed how many girls and women have been wearing miniskirts and short dresses to church let along to any other occasion? In the name of causing others to stumble, not only do a number of females end up flashing a lot of skin but they also end up unintentionally flashing others when they sit (and also if they crouch down) as well as a result of this. The only bigger problem than this is there are a number of males who love this, and look for opportunities of voyeurism of this as well. So with all of this in mind we need to keep encourage the wearing of dresses on females only and keep encouraging them to appreciate their femininity and the close that make it, but females do need to be encouraged to be totally modest with the kind of length and fullness and fabric of dresses that they choose to wear so that they do not encourage others to lust after them and stumble. Even when males are at fault for some of the ways they allow their lusts to dominate and they take advantage of females like in situations like these, still the buck has to stops with the females by they way any of them choose to dress.
@KINGofKINGSandLORDofLORDS4 ай бұрын
Pants that cover for sure .. But not pants that reveal ..
@JohnMark13134 ай бұрын
If we are going to enforce verse 5, should we not also enforce the other statements in the chapter? We all like to pick and choose. It is less about scripture and more about culture. We have exported that culture overseas. We lived and ministered in Nigeria for several years and remember a church compound having a sign at the gate that said "women with trousers not allowed." That was just one of the things we added to the gospel.
@someone-ke4qj4 ай бұрын
That's what I'm wondering. Is this like circumcision?
@Chazd1949Ай бұрын
Chapter 22 is a collection of various laws, some of them are moral (like verse 5) and others are civil, or ceremonial. You might want to consider that verse 5 includes the words, "abomination unto the LORD." This is the strongest warning used in the Bible for what God considers sin. He hates it, He detests it. It goes against His will and purpose for His design for men and women to be different. God is not the author of confusion. If it's okay for women to wear trousers as the outermost garment, then is it okay for men to wear skirts? A lot of people in the "woke" crowd are advocating for just that very thing, and for genderless clothing, gender fluidity, etc. It seems that Christians are last ones to realize that there has been a sexual revolution, and that the culture war has already been lost.
@JohnMark1313Ай бұрын
@@Chazd1949 We are still making choices. Other versions use the English word detestable. That word is then used to describe a number of things that God does not want the Israelites to do. God does not label them moral or civil, we do that. I find it interesting that we find it used a lot in Proverbs where God tells us there are seven things that are detestable, a proud look, a lying tongue, a hand that sheds innocent blood, a heart that devised evil schemes, feet quick to evil, a false witness and one that stirs up conflict in the community. We spend too much time on what people wear and not enough on what they do.
@Chazd1949Ай бұрын
@@JohnMark1313 "Detestable" yeah, okay, that's what it means, as I said, if you read my entire comment. Yes, Proverbs 6:16-19 lists seven other things that God detests. You say "we spend too much time on what people wear and not enough on what they do." Well, what people wear IS SOMETHING they do. These are not mutually exclusive. You seem draw a false dichotomy here. One need not be neglected for sake of another. It's ALL sin in God's eyes. And furthermore, Christians today - particularly females - hardly give a thought to what they wear, whether it's pleasing to the Lord or not; most are more concerned with what other women think. Most Christians have a pretty shallow idea of God's holiness, so no wonder there are so many reports of sexually immoral, even heinous, acts among the leaders in churches today - just read the Roys Report. The unchurched have a very low opinion of Christianity because so many Christians look and act like heathen.
@Chazd1949Ай бұрын
With all due respect, I smell a “red herring” in your line of reasoning. The word "abomination" is synonymous with "detestable." In addition, shifting to a synonym is the fallacy of making a distinction without a difference, if that is what you're trying to do. It is true that the Bible does not label the various laws as moral or civil/ceremonial, but that is what they are. The moral laws flow from the Holy Character of God Himself, not simply because He commands them, as He did with the ceremonial laws which were given to point to Christ.. The seven abominations in Proverbs 6:16-19 are serious sins also - ones the Christian needs to heed. You say “we spend too much time on what people wear and not enough on what people do” - sorry, but I see more faulty reasoning here. What “people wear” IS SOMETHING THEY DO!!! (:>). Furthermore, the seven abominations in Proverbs 6 and the abomination in Deuteronomy 22:5 are not mutually exclusive. There is not a conflict between obeying one over the other. Finally, of my many commentaries that cover Deuteronomy, not a single one dismisses this verse as inappropriate for Christian observance. In fact, they all warn of its severity.
@chaplainsoffice69074 ай бұрын
God looks on the heart ❤️ Hebrews chapter 4 and verse 12. From the Old Street Preacher ✝️
@carolineshenouda84534 ай бұрын
A you please do a video on hair colour and make up? Thanks
@benvandervyver24073 ай бұрын
It's a Revelation by the Holy Ghost. It is Holy Ghost Standards: this means male-clothing for men, and women-clothing for women. The Robes are to indicate complete covering of the body; From the neck to the wrist and from the neck to the ankles. Proper clothing are revealed to the sincere heart by the Spirit. No short sleeves and short dresses for male and female. Your description are not true to Holy Ghost Revelation. You can twist anything in scripture to suit your beliefs, but you cannot fool the Holy Spirit. If a man walk not by the Spirit he is in darkness. Long sleeves and dresses causes a Christian to stand out and be different. If you look and dress like the world, you are denying the Lord in your appearance.
@joecool973 ай бұрын
No It's not sinful for women to wear Pants.
@Chazd1949Ай бұрын
Would you also say that it is not sinful for a man to wear a skirt?
@joecool97Ай бұрын
@@Chazd1949 To each their own.
@Chazd1949Ай бұрын
@@joecool97 So, would you say that you're a moral relativist? BTW: joecool97 were you born in 1997? Just curious.. . .
@joecool9722 күн бұрын
@@Chazd1949 None of your business. No. I grew up accepting women the way they are. When I see a woman dressed up or casual in Pants she looks beautiful.
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
@@joecool97 Okay, no problem. I asked about your birth year because I find studying opinions across generations to be interesting.
@nothingnothing79584 ай бұрын
I agree we shouldnt be adding extra rules we shouldnt be like the jews with the Talmud.
@markreed25764 ай бұрын
These are the type of things that cause weird church doctrine and distort and distract from the true gospel. When I hear arguments about pants or beards or using horse drawn carriages, it’s such a small minded group of people that reduce the gospel to this .
@davidpetch26494 ай бұрын
Are woman required to cover their heads when they pray?
@isrberlinerin40633 ай бұрын
God looks at our heart not at if we wear pants .
@Jutte7774 ай бұрын
Great Vid by the way. Always amuses me when I hear "woman wears dresses - men wear pants" carry on. Never seem to see those who advocate this to say that to the guys wearing dress like apparel (lava lavas) at the local Tongan or Samoan Churches ...LOL ! I had no problems wearing a Great Kilt to Kirk. "What wear trou?..away with ye ye sassenach !"
@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics4 ай бұрын
I think God wants us to take clothing distinctions seriously. Hence why he calls crossdressers an abomination. God created men and women separate. So, any person ought to think of what message their clothing sends. 🤔 Hopefully, it's, "I am fearfully and wonderfully made a man/woman by Almighty God, and I'm proud He made me what I am." 🤗 I could be wrong, but in my country, Feminism might have been behind the pants switch for women, so it's prudent that we give thought to the agendas the world has for us, and that we stay on God's agenda. Ultimately, it's matter of thought and heart-posture.
@MultiSky74 ай бұрын
I agree with you, but in the time when the OT was written all men wore something we would call dresses.
@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics4 ай бұрын
@@MultiSky7 I know. The OT verse says nothing about pants. That's misguided. I'm talking based on our cultural standards. 👍
@wnctg4 ай бұрын
As ladies we wear women's pants, not men's. With so many people blabbing you need to dress like us. I was in one of these cult's and I'm never going back. It's spiritual abuse for complete control over you. They take everything out of context and only focus on the outside appearance. No more institutionalized church.
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
@@MultiSky7 Yes, but my seminary course textbook on Bible Customs and Lands states that men wore shorter robes than women; and, also, men "girded up" the ends of the garment so as to fit more like trousers today. Women did not follow that practice from what we can determine by historical and archaeological evidence; although its certainly probable that disobedient Israelites practicing pagan cult worship did cross-dress. Secondly, even if we concede that men wore long robes similar to women's, it simply does not follow that God approved of it. After all, the patriarchs and kings of Israel and Judah had multiple wives and concubines. Furthermore, most of the good kings who "did that which is right in the sight of the LORD" failed to "remove the high places" which God had forbidden. Thirdly, we are New Testament Christians. We are going to be held to a higher standard than the Old Testament saints. In fact, because we have 20 centuries of Christian scholarship and both good and bad examples, God expects we, as 21st century Christians, to learn from these and make the best choices that honor His word and glorify His name.
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
There are thousands of photos on Pinterest from 100 years ago or more that show women doing all kinds of activities in skirts - WW1 women doing factory work, metal machining, police work, etc. and also women hiking, hunting, fishing, snow skiing, skating, swimming, exercising, and doing all sorts of sports and outdoor activities. I have a huge file folder of these that I've downloaded. There are more than I could name here. It certainly was the rebellious feminist movement and Hollywood liberals that brought about the sexual revolution for which we are now reaping the consequences- and it started with women wanting to replace men by wearing their clothes.
@margyeoman35643 ай бұрын
Pants are for men , and dresses are for women. There is quite a difference in modesty when a dress is worn. This type of dress aligns with not usurping a nans place, also the example of the grace of humility . A woman in a dress is teaching humility. And it says so in the bible. Suffer not woman to wear mens garb.
@Bildgier4 ай бұрын
You meant woman shouldn't wear pants in church right?
@Jesussaves5323 ай бұрын
From the New Testament: 1 Timothy 2:9 KJB “In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;” What is shamefacedness? Excess of modesty. You cannot have excess of modesty in jeans as a woman. Nor leggings. They provoke lust. I know because I wore them for 17 years before the Lord saved me. After, he gave me a desire for true modest apparel. Long answer short, yes it is. Because a woman who fears the Lord will not want to leave any space for the possibility of provoking lust. That’s not legalism, it’s wisdom. The scripture is clear. :)
@global10073 ай бұрын
It is legalism, because it doesn't say "pants". So you made it up. THAT is legalism.
@Jesussaves5323 ай бұрын
@@global1007 Hi, do you know what legalism means? Or are you just saying it because you’ve heard other people use that term? Legalism pertains to the law. I don’t keep the law, because Jesus came to fulfill it. If I were saying that Christians are to offer animal sacrifices and keep the sabbath, you’d have a right to call me legalistic. Modesty is a Bible doctrine. A New Testament doctrine. The Bible says “study to shew thyself approved, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” the Lord saved me and taught me to study what modesty means, what it consists of and what it doesn’t. Pants for women are not modest. Along with many other things, makeup etc.. just like there are certain things that men shouldn’t wear because it’s not modest. Any God fearing woman or man will be careful to dress in a way that’s pleasing to God. ”For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.“ 2 Corinthians 7:11 KJV I could give you much more scripture regarding the new birth and how that should also show on the outside and the outward adorning. I haven’t seen you give me one verse of scripture to back up what you’re saying
@global10073 ай бұрын
@@Jesussaves532 I agree on modesty. I know that it is biblical. But may I be clear, legalism is also building your own law. It is not only in reference to Moses's law. You can set up a new rule, and it is legalism. Check the definition of the term. I know that modesty is important. But it does not say "pants" in any way or the other. That is your own law.
@Jesussaves5323 ай бұрын
@@global1007 It doesn’t say “shorts” either or “plunging v-necks”, or “high heels” but are those modest? No. Come on. Just because a certain word isn’t in the Bible means God is fine with it? Trying to modernize God is dangerous. I recommend you don’t do that. The true God of the Bible, Jesus Christ (not the false god of modern new age Christianity) wants women to be shamefaced. To have excess of modesty. Period. Amish and Mennonites are good examples of legalistic religious groups, sure they keep themselves covered with long modest dresses which is good, but then they say things like you have to wear a head covering and not let your hair down (when the Bible says a woman’s hair is given to her for a covering) they don’t follow the Bible in the fear of the Lord, they don’t do those things with understanding, they’re just following rules of men, they’re religious. So in cases like that, I would agree that modesty can be taken too far, not because it’s excess, but because they’re adding to the scriptures.
@Jesussaves5323 ай бұрын
@@global1007 I know what legalism means. Have you studied what modesty means? Where do you get your standard of modesty? Preference maybe? Other women? I get mine from the word of God.
@abrahamissac59384 ай бұрын
Every Legalist Loves to Add their “Teaching” to Scripture “Their” Regulation,Rules,Terms, Etc…I can go on forever. Well Its Seems The Scriptures is not Good enough for them.
@TheRealRenn4 ай бұрын
AS my wife just said, it appears their ultimate goal is not to separate themselves from the world, but rather to separate themselves from other Christ followers...to appear superior...more godly
@hanneslotter59644 ай бұрын
Some guys try to prove that it is a sin for women to be preaches the word of God (1 Timothy 2:12). Not so sure if this is correct.
@user-yc3jy7kf7r3 ай бұрын
I have never in one of my Independent Fundamentalist Churches heard a sermon on women’s clothing, and we try to love and make feel welcome everyone who attends our church no matter their dress. What one wears in an individual decision between them and God. The Pastor should preach the Bible, the way one responds is their responsibility.
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
I agree. My church is like that also. However, principles of gender distinction and modesty need to be the conviction of the pastors and their wives and they should set a high standard for themselves. While loving and showing kindness to those who are less mature and giving gentle guidance to the women in the church, the pastor's wife can bring about a more effective change in their hearts (first) and in their practices (a logical consequence of the heart) than would be the result of authoritative/dictatorial thumping from the pulpit. We are all a "work in progress" and we should continually strive for excellence in all things, for the glory of our Lord and Savior.
@user-cb7iu1oe7k7 күн бұрын
If in your culture the men wear pants then the women should wear skirts and dresses, to be different
@JoelGrant-ie4ly29 күн бұрын
Why is this an issue ?
@lewislibre4 ай бұрын
We all know women look the most beautiful in a dress and it glorifies God the most!
@arock2084 ай бұрын
Thoughts on this, please...added scripture ever better... If a church requires you to wear a dress to work or worship there, should we consider it a false church regardless if their teaching of the gospel is clear?
@Blackrims233 ай бұрын
Actually it’s probably sinful for women to be masculine
@maxwellnwankpa15652 ай бұрын
Sir can you say something about women covering there hair?
@gregorysloat42583 ай бұрын
Could you see a woman farmer, factory worker, police officer, construction worker, EMT, fireman, etc., trying to wear a skirt or dress in those lines of work? Not only would it be inconvenient for their job, it could be hazardous.
@insanoibro63313 ай бұрын
Women shouldn't even be in half of those jobs.
@Chazd194921 күн бұрын
There are thousands of photos on Pinterest from 100 years ago or more that show women doing just such things in skirts - WW1 women doing factory work, metal machining, police work, etc. and also women hiking, hunting, fishing, snow skiing, skating, swimming, exercising, and doing all sorts of sports and outdoor activities. I have a huge file folder of these that I've downloaded. There are more than I could name here. It was the rebellious feminist movement and Hollywood liberals that brought about the sexual revolution for which we are now reaping the consequences- and it started with women wanting to replace men by wearing their clothes.
@27steve4 ай бұрын
Don't get bogged down with Jewish law or you will have 613 to follow. This was all fulfilled by the death of Christ. It is finished. Spend more time spreading the Gospel and not waisting time in trivia. God bless you.
@herbdavis97654 ай бұрын
Mel McDaniel says, Down on the corner by the traffic light Everybody's lookin' as she goes by They turn their heads, and they watch her 'til she's gone Lord have mercy, baby's got her blue jeans on. Who doesn't love a fine pair of blue jeans on the right woman? Pleased to hear it's not a sin!
@annettebailey204117 сағат бұрын
It is insane to continuously harass and bright women for what they wear Constantly attacking women and trying to make them responsible for men's lustful feelings is insane. Everyone knows that rape is because of power and control and has nothing to do with what a woman is wearing. Stop attacking and telling women what they should or should not do all the time. Absolutely nothing is said about men who wear their pants halfway down their legs. What does anybody care whether you can figure out that someone is male or female or not. If you can't figure it out then that's your problem but women shouldn't have to dress in a certain way for anyone except themselves. Stop the attack on women
@flyingkiwicjk4 ай бұрын
Deuteronomy 22:5 has literally nothing to do with any believer, anywhere, any time ever. It was actually referring to military dress, not every day dress. Adam Clarke explains it well, "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man - כלי גבר keli geber, the instruments or arms of a man. As the word גבר geber is here used, which properly signifies a strong man or man of war, it is very probable that armor is here intended ..." It is obscene, dishonest, coercive and disrespectful to God and His Word to use Deuteronomy 22:5 as a way to control what a woman should or should not wear today.
@Outlaw-of2lt4 ай бұрын
All is lawful and permissible all is never good and for my soul none shall enslave me
@wcequestrian3 ай бұрын
I train horses and i wear pants so thanks 😊
@frankgreen30834 ай бұрын
AWESOME MESSAGE 😮
@netdude214 ай бұрын
I’m of the opinion that it shouldn’t even be an issue if a woman wears pants or wears a dress or a skirt with a nice top. It’s these legalistic rules that these so-called “pastors” in the IFB and Apostolic Pentecostal churches impose on their church members that’s the problem. If a woman feels comfortable in pants or slacks then she should be entitled to wear them. PERIOD.
@iThinkBiblically4 ай бұрын
Depends what you mean by slacks. I don't think women should wear tight fitting clothes like leggings in public.
@netdude214 ай бұрын
@@iThinkBiblically What I mean by pants is something like a pantsuit, like they would wear to the office or church. In public, however, yes, I agree with you , keep the leggings reserved for the gym or at home for lounging around. I'm not arguing here but I think this whole thing about women wearing pants, whether in church or in daily life, are fine on a woman, they don't need to get dolled up and put on a nice fancy dress just to do grocery shopping, it's their choice if they want to, who am I to judge? What matters is what SHE wants, not what some, sorry to say this, jackass standing behind a pulpit wants. What I'm getting sick and tired of if the legalism in the church, preferably the IFB, taking Scripture verses COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT and making a rule that "must be followed or else" It's ridiculous and downright abusive for a "pastor" to tell his church members how to dress and act. I also just heard that the JWs are going to allow women to wear pants in the Kingdom Halls and out in field service, and Men don't have to wear a tie AND can grow beards now. How's that for a newsflash?
@Ireallylovelasagnasomuch3 ай бұрын
@@iThinkBiblicallywhat about skinny jeans? Normally, I looked at skinny jeans as an tire that covers legs. Point blank. By default some pants were made up close to the skin but of course not tight. "Tight" would be getting a size that's actually not your size. Most of the time if I wear skinny jeans I don't have the intentions to show off my curves nor look feminine. I just want to wear clothing that cover my legs. I hope to be convicted if my style becomes ungodly
@kongzillagod13 күн бұрын
I’m thinking this person is confusing the era of the times.
@JackMeoff-gu7om4 ай бұрын
Where was the Levis factory 5000 yrs ago . Bad Levi ! He was a Jew and should have know better.
@davidboehmer43594 күн бұрын
NO!
@Maranatha17774 ай бұрын
Jesus aaid not to judge based on how someone is dressed
@jonasodell59184 ай бұрын
That is true, but only for those who don't follow christ as they don't see a reason to follow the rules. But as believers in Jesus we must follow the word so it would not be judging to ask someone who is a believer to dress modestly. It would be judgment if we looked at it and said well im better than them because I dress better. This is about not judging but more about obey the word of God.
@Standing_on_the_word4 ай бұрын
It's not judging them in terms of condemning regarding what we wear . But if we don't dress modestly like the bible said we should then we are putting on display temptation to young men & ladies . I'm not talk about pants but dressing in general. Let us think of out brother or sister not only ourselves when it comes to spirituality as the bible tells us. God bless 😊
@TheCableStrain4 ай бұрын
Jhn 7:24 KJV - 24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. 👆👆👆👆👆 This passage isn't about what a person wears/how they dress/raiment. Was there another passage you were thinking of?
@jonasodell59184 ай бұрын
@@TheCableStrain yes that is true but would it not be righteous judgment if someone is bearing sinful fruits of trying to tempt others by what they wear. I think that may be what you were trying to get across.
@TheCableStrain4 ай бұрын
@@jonasodell5918 The original post was this.... "Jesus said not to judge based on how someone is dressed" I was simply saying, NO, actually Jesus didn't make that claim about judging how someone dresses. It's a totality different context. But... righteous judgment would include, telling those in the Church, or in the world, that their clothing is too revealing, immodest. In James Chapter 2, we're told not to have respect of persons to those who are dressed in wealthy/expensive clothing versus those who dressed in poor/vile raiment. But that's a different thing altogether. God bless you.
@stevenklinkhamer90692 ай бұрын
That sounds a bit extreme and a bit "legalistic" to say the least. Get real people. This type of a holier than thou attitude/mentality just causes division within the body.
@iThinkBiblically2 ай бұрын
You obviously didn't watch the video.
@thewhole_picture17434 ай бұрын
If someone squatted down they would have to lift their tunic out of the way...
@christianhaynes19544 ай бұрын
Good video brother
@dhill1384 ай бұрын
Let's not forget the Scots and their kilts.
@TheElizabethashby4 ай бұрын
NO
@Thunder-sf4qy4 ай бұрын
People need to remember clothing appearal was different in biblical times. Everyone wore robes. Also Roman men soldiers wore skirts, you see them in Jesus movies. Also in Egypt the men wore skirts.The scriptures teaches against men or women fashioning themselves to attract the same sex by wearing things a women would or a man would, this includes fashioning your hair like a women, or like a man. Religious folks try to say all men with long hair is a sin, and thats not true because Life long Nazarites were instructed to not shave their hair while living holy, so Nazirites had long hair. The bible is warning both men & women about is the character/ behavioral with fashioning to be as a man, or a woman, if you were not born as it. The behavior warning also goes for women wearing jewelry and trusting in their beauty like Ezekiel 16:9-15. Although you see God fashioning the women with the jewelry, if her character is not of God she trust in her own beauty and becomes whorish. This does not mean every women will or wont. Nor does it mean its a sin to have jewelry. But religion says it is. Read the bible people.🤔