Caledonian 812 Review - Preserved Blue Livery - Bachmann / Rails Of Sheffield

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That Model Railway Guy reviews the New Caledonian 812 from Bachmann and Rails Of Sheffield.
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The Caledonian 812 from Bachmann and Rails Of Sheffield has finally arrived but it looks like it was worth the wait. You guys know I'm a sucker for a good looking 0-6-0 and in this preserved blue livery the Caledonian 812 ticks all the boxes.
That said, at almost £200 it is an expensive loco for an 0-6-0 and (given that these are available exclusively from Rails Of Sheffield) it's not like you get a bit of a discount at the retailers. Will the pretty livery of the Caley 812 be enough to win people over or will it be a more niche model to satisfy the Scottish market? To find out my thoughts check out the video and let me know what you think in the comments below!
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:23 - Detail & Livery
09:09 - First Test Run
12:07 - Running Session
16:53 - Final Thoughts
Thanks for watching!

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@nigelcole1936 2 жыл бұрын

I loved the Caledonian Railway livery when years and years ago Hornby brought out the small saddle tank - great to see a larger loco in this livery. Looked great running on your layout and thank you for another great review.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, yeah it would be lovely to see some more locos done in the Caledonian livery. Maybe given that the 812 seems to be going down well it might inspire other manufactures to pay more attention to the Scottish region. Thanks for watching 😃

@railway187 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this locomotive is fantastic. The blue livery gives it a majestic look. It is indeed expensive for an analog locomotive, probably they thought that everyone is going to add a decoder and use it digital anyway. Which is not necessarily true, I’m sure I am not the only one operating analog only. Looking to this locomotive I am always thinking I should start adding UK locomotives to my collection 😁 they are sooo beautiful 😍 Good review, I only wished you’d use a thin brush instead of that sharp screwdriver for pointing out details on the model. It’s scary to watch, especially in close up. 😱 It gives of course some extra tension to the video: will or won’t the model survive the video unscratched? 😉😁 Happy 2022! 🎉 Greetings from Belgium 🙋‍♂️ Erik

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I do think that a lot of Bachmann's new releases are only really worth it if you can make full use of all the DCC extras. The Class 47 is another example of this - the high price is worth it to get all the extras but the standard DC model isn't that much different than the old model, aside from the price of course! Haha, it always surprises me how everyone gets scared of the screwdriver. I swear next time I film a review I'm going to have to do a behind the scenes shot to show how the screwdriver is really nowhere near the model. Thanks for watching 😃

@Nick-vr2pf 2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this since it was first announced back in 2018. Got the as-built blue as I think it more befitting for Caley locos, so beautiful with any kind of stock behind it. Lets hope we get to see more CR locos in future (Cardean please!)

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, yeah I was tempted by the lighter blue version too as it does look good. As I'm building a heritage layout though the preservation model was more suitable. I hope we see more Caledonian locos too! Who knows, maybe it'll be the next pre-grouping craze like the SE&CR has been. Thanks for watching 😃

@tagsdm 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this, That Model Railway Guy. Since seeing it in the last live stream I've been using my TS version a lot! They compare quite favorably, if not identically. Yours seems like a beautifully detailed, smooth running gem, worth the 200 quid these days. No one said model railways was a cheap hobby, since the 60s when I started to the present day. There's stuff going on here that we couldn't dream of back then, when Pacific Fast Mail was top of the heap. I really love these 0-6-0s, as the arrangement was both useful and popular. It's what railways needed, and it worked, from the tiny Class Ps and Terriers, through the 57xx's and Fowler 4Fs, to the mighty Q1, I love 'em all, not glamorous normally, but work-a-day champions. Terrific review, That Model Railway Guy, hope to see more.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Yeah I think as the quality of our models has increased the prices naturally rise to reflect that and we do get quite a lot for our money in some cases. I've always had a soft spot for 0-6-0's though (both tank engines and tender engines) so it's nice to see another one on the market in a nice colourful livery too. Thanks for watching 😃

@andrewross3293 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review. Many thanks.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Thanks Andrew, hope you found it helpful! Thanks for watching 😃

@thestandardfour0699 2 жыл бұрын

Stunning livery! The blue is amazing - wonderful review!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

The blue livery is amazing and made even better by all the intricate lining too! Thanks for watching 😃

@adam_fordham 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant review of the class 812, love the livery on it and and a smashing runner and the firebox glow finishes it off nicely, I agree with the loco and tender connection but hopefully bachmann will update it, good job 👍🏻

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Adam, yeah it is a superb loco all round and the firebox glow is a nice feature. I'm just surprised that they bothered to update the DCC socket from 21Pin to Next18 but left the old style tender connection, just seems like a silly design choice to me. Thanks for watching 😃

@johne5854 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Beautifully detailed model.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, it is a great little loco. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 😃

@railfanpolska 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant stuff! I'm your subscriber now😌👌 Kind regards 🖐️🙂

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, really glad you’re enjoying the videos. Thanks for becoming a subscriber! 😃

@cormacafton6069 2 жыл бұрын

Another great review I might pick one up

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, definitely a good one to get if you're a fan of the preserved loco or the Caledonian Railway in general. Thanks for watching 😃

@benstrainsandthings 2 жыл бұрын

Great looking loco! Love the blue colour!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ben, yeah it is a great looking loco all round! The blue livery is really finished off nicely by all the lining and little embellishments all round. I have to say I think Bachmann have done a really good job on these. Thanks for watching 😃

@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 2 жыл бұрын

good vid on you channel thanks lee

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Lee, thanks for watching 😃

@HemelDownModelRailway 2 жыл бұрын

Great livery on that loco 🙂👍🏻

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It is a stunning livery! The lighter Caledonian blue is also really nice too but given my layout is a heritage railway I really had to go with the preserved livery. Thanks for watching 😃

@OlivierGabin 2 жыл бұрын

For the tender connexion, you have Dapol and the others... By the way, Bachmann have made a copernician revolution on their mechanisms : their last models (Johnson 1P and 94xx to name I've bought, even if the last is too fast running) have a great mechanism, far from their low-end ones they used before. Last but not least, the finish is fantastic. A nice engine to have, even if over twice the price of an equivalent like the Oxford Rail J27.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have to say the mechanism in this seems fantastic! It's a really smooth runner and has been doing laps of my almost constantly for the past week without a single issue. It certainly does seem like a high quality model so hopefully we're seeing somewhat of a resurgence from Bachmann. Thanks for watching 😃

@edwardvincentbriones5062 2 жыл бұрын

Make 'em two and you have the Blue Scottish Twins!

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, if someone wants to buy me another one I'll gladly accept but I don't have the budget for that! Thanks for watching 😃

@littleuikiku 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic cab, really the part that seperates avarage models from great ones In my opinion. Can't say the price is that chocking though, over here in Scandinavia where german locos dominate the market, a good one is between 300 and up to a 1000 (in extreme cases) euros in HO scale.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

The cab is definitely one of the best I've seen! Yeah I think in the UK we often forget how lucky we are. We certainly get a lot for our money in comparison to the European and American prices from what I can see. Thanks for watching 😃

@willbreckinridge8010 2 жыл бұрын

This is such a terrific model. Mine arrived a few days ago. Is it wrong of me to kinda sorta want to make Donald and Douglas out of it?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It is awesome isn't it! If you've got one of the black ones I can see why you'd want to make it Donald or Douglas - it'd be a shame to paint over one of the blue liveries though. At the end of the day though it's your model, you can do what you like. Thanks for watching 😃

@hillmangt1 2 жыл бұрын

They come with a replacement sticker for the box stating the new decoder specification.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed they do - it just seemed weird to me that the boxes were printed incorrectly as I can't imagine swapping the decoder from 21 pin to Next18 was a last minute change. Thanks for watching 😃

@DeepdigProductions Жыл бұрын

Amazing video! I have noticed something though... the blue liveries seem to no longer be on Rails of Sheffield! Any idea why?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

I believe that’s because they’re sold out. Colourful pre-grouping locos do tend to be more popular over the plain black liveries these days. Thanks for watching 😃

@DeepdigProductions Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Thanks for the info! Do you think they'll get more in stock, or was it like a limited time thing?stocks,? I'm planning to get two for my collection as I want some nice Donald and Douglas models!

@redversb2347 2 жыл бұрын

A beautiful looking locomotive but sadly outside what I'd be prepared to pay at the moment. Sorely tempted though as I really like 0-6-0 tender engines. Thanks for the review.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people will have that opinion too. It is nice but as the prices go up less people will be tempted to buy... which inevitably means the prices go up even more to cover that. I know what you mean though, 0-6-0s are often wonderful engines! Thanks for watching 😃

@paulisnotonfire 2 жыл бұрын

I'd really like to get one of these, as the preserved livery one looks really fantastic and is something different. But at the minute I can't justify the price, not when the Rails/Heljan NER Autocar is coming out soon and I have that to pay for. I hope at least for the price Bachmann have put metal bearings on the driving axles, as that's something that they don't do often on steam locomotives. Cheers

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I think a lot of people will agree with you there. It's a lovely looking loco but the livery alone may not be enough for people to get them for non-Caledonian layouts. It does seems like Bachmann have moved away from not having bearings in their steam locos lately. It certainly runs very smoothly so I would imagine it does have proper bearings. Thanks for watching 😃

@christopherstokes9393 2 жыл бұрын

Lovely little loco! It is expensive for its size - but then, I guess it is a niche model, and that attracts a premium. What I'd say is: it's worth it if you specifically want an 812 (or specifically want a Scottish model) - but otherwise, it's probably better to get something else for less money.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I think you've hit the nail on the head there Christopher. If you specifically want an 812 for your layout then you'll probably pay the price but otherwise there are similar options that come at a much lower price point. Thanks for watching 😃

@darknut9696 2 жыл бұрын

will you be getting a second one? to mimic a certain two Scottish engines with the numbers 9 and 10?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Now that would be nice but unlikely I think given the price. Thanks for watching 😃

@rawstonemodelrailway Жыл бұрын

I cracking looking engine. One is my short list for my layout. Just a shame I'm looking more to the LMS to suit my layout as this caledonian livery looks amazing rather then just black.

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

Perhaps a dose of Rule 1 could apply 😉 Thanks for watching 👍

@rawstonemodelrailway Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy 😂 😂 😂 liking your logic 😉 keep up the good work and thanks for your replies ☺ 👍

@AdiPullen 2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate Happy New year Hope you are well? These are expensive for a 0-6-0 when oxford rail dean goods or n7 or j27 and j26 are less than a £100 But cr 812 are wonderful models Bachmann best one to date Keep safe arp

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Happy New Year to you too Adi. Yeah they are expensive - like I said in the video, for those who want an 0-6-0 of some sort there are similar options out there for a lower price. But this is great for those who model Caledonian/Scottish railways and as it's a more niche release those modellers are likely to pay the higher price tag. Thanks for watching 😃

@AdiPullen 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy said same thing in my review too

@russellbenton2987 2 жыл бұрын

Yep it’s expensive and to be honest if it wasn’t for the livery it would be pretty ordinary . However as you say if you are a Caledonian fan you really need to get one . Actually I’ve invested in both blue ones . I did think should I hold off until it goes into Bachmann main range , but in 5 years time who knows what the price will be !

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yep I completely agree with you Russell. If you just want a 0-6-0 there are similar options at a cheaper price point but for those of us that specifically want the 812 it seems most of us will pay what Bachmann are asking. Like you I did think about holding off too but yes, given the increase in prices we've seen over the last 12 months alone, I dare to think where we'll be in a few years time! Thanks for watching 😃

@therailheader1896 2 жыл бұрын

Have you thought of pairing the J36 and the 812 together?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely crossed my mind. I might even have enough locos to do a Scottish themed running session at some point! Thanks for watching 😃

@lewiscartwright3609 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I just wanted to say that it's Called Caledonian blue that The Caledonian 812 Locomotive is painted in

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Good to know! There's the light blue and the dark blue liveries and I just wasn't sure if this darker blue was just a preservation livery. Thanks for watching 😃

@lewiscartwright3609 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy No worries my friend easily mistaken we all make mistakes time to time

@lachd2261 2 жыл бұрын

I really wanted one of these but they were so pricey :(

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I definitely understand that. I'll admit I wasn't going to get one either due to the price. Then the railway I volunteer at annouced the preserved one will be visiting for most of 2022 and that was enough to push me over the edge! Thanks for watching 😃

@COBO2 2 жыл бұрын

Donald and Douglas 😂

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I think Donald and Douglas were indeed based off the Caley 812! Thanks for watching 😃

@hythekent 2 жыл бұрын

Mine arrived with a broken footstep

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no, sorry to hear that. Have you contact Rails Of Sheffield about it? They should be able to sort it for you. Thanks for watching 😃

@hythekent 2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy Yeah, I did and they offered a replacement. But you can’t send a loco back because a small piece of plastic broke off. I’ll just superglue it

@PebProductions46 2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful model, terrible price. I don't really get the "premium price for a niche model" argument when this essentially looks like every other 0-6-0 apart from the unique livery, should you even choose that option. Something like KR Models' GT3 I can certainly get but even the similarly Scottish J36 from Hornby was significantly cheaper. It just seems like Rails and Bachmann are trying to make a quick buck under the guise of exclusivity, and this along with the Hornby Hush-Hush debacle just kinda come off as willfully anti-consumer. That being said, I have the as-built blue one on order and it should be in next week. I wish I had known how many of the premium features would have been behind the DCC paywall but hey, it looks pretty, right?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's be more about the size of a production run than anything else. Hornby generally do larger batches and as a result we saw the J36's heavily discounted not long after their initial release which can't have been good for them. With the 812 being a commission I imagine it's a much shorter production run which means they have to make more profit on each model. Don't forget that Rails will have to share part of that profit with Bachmann too, which again brings the price up. Of course I don't know any of this for certain but certainly from an outside perspective that's what it seems to me. Thanks for watching 😃

@adamkornacki606 Жыл бұрын

im wondering why they removed this livery. Now there are only boring black liveries

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

I would imagine that's because all the Caledonian blue livery versions have sold out and it's only the black ones that are left. Thanks for watching 😃

@adamkornacki606 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy i hope they will return . Rail restock their models once in while right ?

@ThatModelRailwayGuy Жыл бұрын

@@adamkornacki606 I'm not sure, I think the NER Railcar had a few more come into stock a while back but I'm not sure if they were just surplus... and that was a commission with Heljan so different circumstances. Honestly I think it's more likely that we'll see this model be absorbed into the main Bachmann range, albeit with different running numbers, but even that probably won't happen for a while, at least not while Rails have some in stock.

@adamkornacki606 Жыл бұрын

@@ThatModelRailwayGuy so we will wait long time since no one is buying black caledonian unless they are making Donald and Douglas . and they have like five variants left in stock that no one wants to buy .