In this video, I show you how I use Audacity to calibrate cassette decks before recording.
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@svenschwingel86322 жыл бұрын
You do realize that Bias with white noise is calibrated at -20dB, right? Because at 0dB, you are oversaturating the high frequencies far beyond anything even the best Type IVs can take. You can use 0dB for a 315 Hz sensitivity calibration, but never for treble. Usually, on a 3-head deck, you feed white noise into the line input, record that at -20dB and then adjust the Bias until the comparison between source and tape have the same coloration in the treble. It's best to use headphones for that.
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS7772 жыл бұрын
yes there are some oversights in this video. she's calibrating it for overmudulation - could suit a purpose I guess
@raysrcsandtech2 жыл бұрын
So in the software use 0.8 and still let the audio hit 0db on decks meters ?
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you are correct. The level should be at -20 db. I am pinning this comment. Thank you again.
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Rays RCs and Tech No, software set to amplitude "1", not 0.8. Then the VU meter on the deck should be 0 db as well. It should match the source. But as Sven stated, you should calibrate the bias at -20 db.
@PiQuiLeroy Жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a Pioneer CT-S420 and would like to calibrate it for Maxell UD XL II, adjust the bias and optimize Dolby B and C. I have a Nakamichi audio analyzer but since I am new to electronics I don't know how to adjust the calibration. Can anyone help me? I made pictures of the PCB that I can send, but which one is for what?
@rubikcuber14922 жыл бұрын
Great to see your method! As others have pointed out, I calibrate to -20dB too. I have a method I use with 2 head decks such as my Nakamich DR-3. What I did was actually record the calibration tones from a Sony TCK-611S for reference. These are short alternating bursts of 400Hz and ~9200Hz tones (about 0.1 second for each). So in Audacity, using the repeat effect, I recreated these tones as eleven 2 second sequences (with a 2 second gap between) to match the eleven bias positions on the Nak. Then I set the bias to the far left, and start recording the sequence. In the gap between bursts I turn the bias knob to the next marked position. I repeat for all eleven settings, then playback the recording and capture that into Audacity. Then I choose the bias level that corresponds to the burst in which both frequences are at the same amplitude. It's pretty easy to spot the best setting by eye, especially if you switch to viewing amplitude by dB in Audacity instead of linear. Sometimes the left and right bias are different - and in that case I choose a mid point. Finally I confirm by ear with some music.
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
You can do so much with Audacity, especially when your knowledge of cassette and audio grows. Thanks for growing mine! 👍. I'm still a hobbyist but it's people like you who enlighten us further! 🤗
@imansfield2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, I never knew you could do this with Audacity. I was previously using a pink noise video on youtube.
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Sinhalayaki2 жыл бұрын
Instructive! How do you set the Bias for Normal, Chrome and Metal tapes? Will you please do a video?
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Should be the same. Most decks from the 90s has automatic tape type selection, so you don't need to do anything different. If yours don't (the Nakamichi doesn't), you need to select the tape type and bias (120 vs 70μs) for that tape, and calibrate as usual (like using this video with Audacity, or FM radio tuned to empty station).
@randyharrigan47902 жыл бұрын
Thank u again for some useful info! I been wondering the proper way to go about this for some time so I am going to try this using adobe audition and my denon drm700 and drm700a sometime soon!
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Not exactly "proper". Just something I do before I record. Someone informed me the white noise needs to be at -20 db to not saturate the high frequency response of the cassette. That makes sense, so I may have to amend my video. Other than that, it's a good use for balancing the stereo image, and with the correct level, assist in calibration.
@bobof67310 ай бұрын
Great video. Can this process be used to setup at tape deck as best as possible to use it to record some test tapes for future tape deck repairs.? I set up decks, but difficult to buy good test tapes.
@TechieZeddie9 ай бұрын
I don't trust consumer decks to record test tapes but it should come close. I did make a mistake though. The high frequency needs to be at -20db if I recall. There are people more knowledgeable about this than I and some have commented in this video.
@MrSerendipity013 ай бұрын
The user manual for my Aiwa AD F850 says to calibrate bias at -25db and EQ at 0db.
@TechieZeddie2 ай бұрын
Follow your manual.
@sc0or9 ай бұрын
0dB on an adjusted level meter of an adjusted sound track is a certain voltage level in aux input. If your audio card output exceeds it (afair .4V) that will be +6dB or even +12dB. So, pls ignore those dBs
@DrVektor2 жыл бұрын
So so interesting thing calibrate cassette deck with audacity, you are really interesting 🙂i am so curious what will be? I love the videos of this type of technique but the stuff that people forget. i loved your caset deck collection just like teyp heaven 😍
@raysrcsandtech2 жыл бұрын
Could you burn that to audio CD and do the same thing using just your CD player, will that work ?
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. But make sure your CD player is outputting the same db level and is balanced.
@raysrcsandtech2 жыл бұрын
@@TechieZeddie Good point, guess for the first test I could see if the level from the CD matches the computer then I will know.
@mariogambrelli2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I was going to suggest this too. I have downloaded some pink noise off the internet and burnt it using iTunes (now called Music), so I can just play a CD with pink noise, record this at -20dB and toggle between Tape and Source until I can hear no difference (or virtually none).
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
@@mariogambrelli this is a super easy way to do it. I just have a PC next to my stereo set up that I find it easier to use my PC as the source, lol. These days, I enjoy using my PC as another audio source for both recording and playing back to my stereo stack. It's a great way to calibrate, test, digitize analog media, or record digital audio to tape.
@mariogambrelli2 жыл бұрын
@@TechieZeddie Yes, I'm finding this useful too, especially with the Behringer 222 module (external USB sound card which converts USB to line output/input).
@paolorams7672 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Zeddie!
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@raysrcsandtech2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, useful I don't have a calibration button on my Sony ES
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! If your Sony ES is a 3-head deck (Sony started using the ES badge on not-so-high-end stuff in the late 90s - take a look at my Sony TC-WR701ES video), and you can switch between monitoring the tape and the source, you can calibrate your deck to the cassette using this method. If you don't, you'd need to rewind the tape and play it back to compare the sound with the source (use headphones) and adjust the bias, re-record, and repeat until it sounds right. It's more tedious with a 2-head deck or a any deck that doesn't have a tape monitoring feature (yes, there are 3-head decks without a tape monitoring feature like the entry level Nakamichi 3-head decks).
@raysrcsandtech2 жыл бұрын
@@TechieZeddie Yes mine is a 3 head TC-K677ES so I can monitor tape, it just does not have the calibrate function, thats why I'm interested in your vid, thanks for the replies.
@kennynvake4hve584 Жыл бұрын
You have to go inside the deck and find record level pot's and adjust that...look in the service manual and it will show you which one to adjust.
@bennylixballtiti360610 ай бұрын
Calibrate a Tapedeck is always challange, it starts with having a REFERENCE Tape , then adjusting the OUTPUT LEVEL, then the VU-Meters. After that you can callibrate Recording level ...🙂😘👍🏻
@sanolivo68672 ай бұрын
Can I calibrate a Reel to Reel, shoud be much the same. I think
@TechieZeddie2 ай бұрын
Yes pretty much. Frequency response is different depending on tape. So being able to record and reproduce the same frequency at the same db is how you calibrate.
@karimdailyjazz2 жыл бұрын
nice
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dobermanguy94372 жыл бұрын
Right now I don't have a computer can I run white noise from my cell phone plugged into my input of my cassette deck or you don't recommend this nice video by the way I have seen some white noise videos on KZfaq I have a jvc td v 621. A pretty decent machine
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
Using a smartphone will work too. It's pretty much a portable computer!
@dobermanguy94372 жыл бұрын
@@TechieZeddie thank you for the quick reply
@RogerDavis795 Жыл бұрын
Your focus problem may have been because there was glass, and at least one surface behind the glass. My Samsung S8+ has a "selective focus" camera option, which sometimes can help with such a situation. btw I am a Google Fi subscriber...
@TechieZeddie Жыл бұрын
Yeah, reflections are hard on the autofocus.
@dobermanguy9437 Жыл бұрын
I picked up a used cassette deck a Yamaha KX 800u three head deck with Dolby B and c. And. Dbx. Has a built-in bias test button so you can easily adjust your bias this is a beautiful cassette deck I paid 75 bucks I think I got a pretty good deal it looks like it was used very little in excellent shape
@TechieZeddie Жыл бұрын
That's a really good deal actually! I paid about $100 for my JVC at the time.
@DeltaFox19702 жыл бұрын
👍
@Masterheavens2 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand anything :/
@acefrehley37972 жыл бұрын
I HAVE A SONY TC-WE825S AND I TEST MORE TAPES IN THE SERIES NORMAL. CHROME. AND METAL. WITH TO TONES. SO IT PUTS THE LEVEL METERS IN THE RIGHT POSITION. EVEN WHEN I RECORD AT TOP LEVEL. THE DECK DOESN'T DO THAT. AND THE GREATEST IS. IT'S A DUBBEL DECK TO.
@TechieZeddie2 жыл бұрын
I'm just surprised this double deck has the ES name on it. It sure doesn't seem to be built like an ES. Maybe because it has Dolby S? But there's a sister deck that is basically the same including Dolby S that doesn't carry the ES badge. 🤷♀️
@Jo3445710 ай бұрын
Audacity so hard to use I never get it 😂
@TechieZeddie9 ай бұрын
I feel Audacity strikes a good balance of ease of use and functionality. I personally use tools like that including Windows Movie Maker and MS Paint lol. Like I said, I'm not a pro.
@MrSlipstreem11 ай бұрын
Bias adjustment should always be carried out at -20dB relative to 0dB on the meters to take tape saturation out of the equation. For a full internal recalibration... A service manual will nearly always tell you how many millivolts RMS of input signal are needed for the meters to reach either 0dB or the Dolby reference markers on the meters with the record level set to maximum and the balance control centred at a frequency of usually either 315Hz or 400Hz (sinewave). Setting Audacity at 0dB is irrelevant as you need a DMM that measures AC volts RMS to tell you what the input voltage level actually is. Then you can adjust the internal recording level pots for the correct metering level. Any other method is just plain wrong as you're not calibrating against a known reference voltage. You can generally leave internal meter gains alone as they seldom drift by more than a percent or two with age. Then you can adjust the internal playback level pots for 0dB/Dolby level with your new 0dB/Dolby level 315Hz/400Hz reference recording. In summary: Apart from head azimuth calibration, you can achieve everything else with just the service manual, Audacity and a decent DMM.
@cristiantoma1500 Жыл бұрын
It does not have a balance input level..... wtf, the button is right there. 4:59
@TechieZeddie Жыл бұрын
What do you mean? I said the ZX-7 have separate levels for L and R, so it's hard to balance just by sight. Hence using Audacity to produce a mono signal (equal level on both channels) and adjusting the L and R inputs based on that. On other decks they have a separate balance knob as well as L and R level adjustments.
@sh0t734 Жыл бұрын
Use Nak T 100, lots more accuracy.
@TechieZeddie Жыл бұрын
Also very $$$. 😬
@sh0t734 Жыл бұрын
@@TechieZeddie Not so expensive. U can use any meter app on pc, lterally any app that displays input level signal on a meter is more accurate than the deck s meter