California International Marathon Course: Hard Truth

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6 ай бұрын

CIM course description: runsra.org/california-interna...
Conquering the California International Marathon: Be Prepared for the Early Downhills! The California International Marathon (CIM) is a renowned race known for its fast times and scenic course. However, runners should be aware of the challenging early downhills in the first 13 miles, which can be deceiving and lead to pacing issues later in the race. As discussed in the video, the "rollers" really caught up to my quads later in the race. They look small on an elevation chart, but they are not small in the eyes of your quads.
Here's why the early downhills are important to consider:
Significant elevation drop: From the start at Folsom Dam to mile 13, the course drops about 360 feet in elevation. This might seem like a positive at first, but running downhill requires different muscle activation and can lead to fatigue and overuse injuries if not trained for properly.
Pacing challenges: The downhill sections can tempt runners to go out too fast, which can deplete their energy reserves and make the later, flatter sections feel significantly harder.
To prepare for the early downhills at CIM, here are some key tips:
Study the elevation chart: Familiarize yourself with the course profile and identify the specific sections where the elevation drops significantly, which I note is at 2.3 miles, 10 miles, and 15.2 miles.
Practice downhill running: Incorporate downhill running into your training routine, focusing on proper form and technique to minimize muscle strain and fatigue.
Pace yourself strategically: Start conservatively in the first 13 miles and gradually increase your pace as the course flattens out once you get closer to downtown Sacramento.
Strengthen your core and legs: Strong core and leg muscles (especially quads) are crucial for supporting your proper running form on the downhill sections.
By understanding the early downhills and preparing accordingly, you can conquer the California International Marathon with confidence and achieve your desired race goals.

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@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

CIM course description: runsra.org/california-international-marathon/course-information/

@michaelmcnameeofficial 6 ай бұрын

I can't believe in this day and age of Strava, people don't actually look at the results from the previous year. Find someone who ran around the time they are looking at and go look at that person's run. You can see the actual course. Where they gained and lost time. It's what I do for every potential race I'm thinking about to get a true conclusion of the event. I'm pretty sure an event will sell itself as net downhill vs undulating hills that will potentially sap all your energy in first half of event. The organisers are there to promote the eye catching feature of the event, its up to the runner to see through the marketing and work out if the course suits them on past runners experiences

@littlerunner4505 6 ай бұрын

You sound a little salty, Seth! 😂 I always look up other people's runs on Strava of a course I'm going to race because the picture is never good enough. Knowing there's 650 feet of climb, it can't just be those little bumps in the website version. I've run CIM 7 times. This year was a bit warm which did not help. The rollers can wear on you - and at the pace you run, the downhills can be destructive. I think given 1000 feet of down, you have to train the downs. It's a matter of holding back IMO until around mile 16. After that, there is like 50 feet of climbing and it's just a gentle down. I didn't execute that super well this year, I slowed down about 10-15s per mile on the last 4 miles. Anyway, it's a great race, you should go back and try again!

@DavidDamron 6 ай бұрын

2023 CIM Ambassador here: I'm biased cause I love CIM and run it every year. Take the following with that in mind. - - - - I yell from the rooftops to everyone to take it easy the first half on the rollers and that you can make it up on the back half. However, runners, including myself at times, can be overconfident early at CIM. Many people complain about the rollers, BUT there is still one of the highest %'s of BQ'ers every single year at CIM. In 2019 more runners OTQ'ed at CIM than Boston, NYC, and Chicago COMBINED!!! Everyone can have their opinion of the course, but it's proven year after year to output incredible %'s of BQ'ers and OTQ'ers and that is an undeniable fact. Anyone can hate on the rollers, but a high percentage of people succeed at CIM despite the rollers.

@dbo4506 6 ай бұрын

Bro you did not just drop NYC Mara in your example of why it’s so fast re having more qualifiers 😂 NYC is a tough course. Like no s*** bro. Boston isn’t a cake walk either. CIM is nett downhill and therefor had A LOT of people turn up specifically to run sub 2:18. No one is going oh yeh I’ll run my sub 2:18 at NYC 😂

@jamestremblett1875 6 ай бұрын

No offense to Sacramento but New York and Boston have a lot more to offer than just the speed of their respective marathons. They're both world class destinations and historically rich races. People tend to run fast marathons to qualify for Boston or New York, but then use New York and Boston as victory laps moreso than PB opportunities. People who fly to Sacramento for CIM are mostly faster runners going for PBs. In fact a lot of people (like an acquaintance of mine) go to CIM specifically to qualify for Boston or New York.

@zachmcpherson2901 6 ай бұрын

@@dbo4506Agreed on the NYC point but the Boston and CIM courses are remarkable similar. Boston has a tricky back half that cooks people who went out too hard on the early downhill (whereas CIM has hills early and then flattens out) but they’re both point to point and close to the same amount of net downhill.

@jimoconnor8597 6 ай бұрын

Counter point: Runners that are exceptionally fast go to CIM to run fast so the "talent pool" at the start line is much more accomplished and serious than at any of the marathons you mentioned. There will be more fast times as an outcome of the faster runners lining up. I ONLY went to CIM to run a fast time, not to BQ or anything else. I was, like Seth, definitely taken aback at the course as I was constantly told FLAT, DOWNHILL, FAST. The rollers were unexpected and more extreme than Grandma's IMO. All that said, I am 60 years old and had a PR of 3:25:48. I ran 3:08:22 at CIM. Fortunately for me, I live in South GA were rollers are a daily part of my runs so it wasn't much of an issue. I truly think I could have gone 3:05 that day on a flatter course. I loved the race, the volunteers were GREAT, course was scenic and having fast runners around only helped me go faster. Doubt I will go back and I will caution others to be sure they can handle the rollers if they go. But will also be sure to tell all that you can run the time of your life there as well!

@gascraiccraic3857 6 ай бұрын

Is he seriously moaning about the course?

@blairstrahan2147 6 ай бұрын

You should get a coach period!

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

why?

@blairstrahan2147 6 ай бұрын

@@SethJamesDeMoor why....... Because a coach would structure a training program that would take into account all the other factors in life. Like family, being a business owner, your background. You would outline the events your looking to do in 24 and a program would be created to optimise your training around the A races, b races and others etc. Also they would review the training and be able to make changes/adjustments on how the different weeks trainings are tracking and how your feeling. They would be able to proactively give you feedback and advise on your training. 100% a coach would have been able to prepare you for CIM course and it would not have been a "surprise". I 100% believe you can run the OTQ with the aid of a coach. Can still run for fun and enjoyment, running isn't the sole focus in the life. I understand that but a coach. With all of life's commitments the question should be why wouldn't you?

@Zinezey 6 ай бұрын

@@blairstrahan2147 I hope Seth runs an OTQ without a coach just to prove that he doesn’t need one. No one knows their body better than themselves. Seth knows more than enough about running to create a plan and execute an OTQ. Coaches don’t always help, in fact they often make things worse. I think he’s doing just fine with his training and he will figure it all out, without a coach 🤠

@blairstrahan2147 6 ай бұрын

@@Zinezey sorry you are just plain wrong. A good quality coach would guide Seth to a OTQ spot. Would structure marathon training program to work with his family, business and any other commitments he has. He needs to independent eye on his training and would do him the world of good But let's be real, he doesn't take any type of feedback or constructive criticism at all. I want him to succeed and he did amazing performances at Pikes but marathon is a different beast. He is just too closed minded about bringing in a 3rd party to assist with this

@mad8298 6 ай бұрын

I posted this information about the rollers (in general) 10 days to two weeks ago. Apparently no one read my comments. But, yes, you are right, it is a deceptively harder course than people at first glance think. This is especially true because people keep describing it as a "downhill" course. It is a rolling hills course. Very different. I ran it and had different issues related to fluid/electrolyte intact misstep, but it was definitely a course that you had to plan even "effort" and not necessarily even pace and also do quad isolation exercises or hill repeats for. Great race though for organization and community support.

@stephe999 6 ай бұрын

Maybe I’m the exception but I loved the CIM course. Like a slightly gentler version of Boston and also quite scenic.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

Great to hear!

@kennethwedig6091 6 ай бұрын

I ran CIM years ago, and it remains my PR (2:56:09 at age 44, I was 37 when I ran my first marathon). We drove the course the day before the race and I am SO glad we did, because if we hadn't all those rollers would have wreak psychological havoc on me during the race. As it was, I was able to mentally prepare for the rollers and achieve my PR. I've ran lots of flat marathons; Newport (OR), Chicago, Bayshore Marathon, to name a few, and went sub 3 on them too.

@franckgentil6170 6 ай бұрын

Is the takeaway that you need to study Strava records of fellow runners who previously ran your selected race?

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

yes, and train more....been a busy 2 months

@ajmartinez1906 6 ай бұрын

Glad to see that you’re doing better Seth

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

rolling along

@ajmartinez1906 6 ай бұрын

@@SethJamesDeMoor It’s called the Chevolet movement. You Cheve one leg forward and leh the other one

@LuisBecerra79 6 ай бұрын

I found a video of the CIM course and watched it several times and in slow motion so that I could see what was going on. My plan was to do 3:20, but after watching the never ending rolling hills I went for a 3:30 pace and had a 3:32 time, still PB by 19+ minutes from the LA Marathon in March. So being prepared helped on this race.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

Nice! This is so encouraging to read.

@sylvainhyais8166 6 ай бұрын

I am sure you have the potential to run 2 hours 15 minutes . Summer Mountain training might be great for getting you in good shape( not mentionning the sheer pleasure of Mountain running) but it does not prepare you specifically for racing a road marathon at your best. Plus, I think the volume you put in for this race was not enough. It's a matter of priority. Talk to a coach,devise a plan and go for it. Having run a sub 65 minutes half should get out around 2hours 15 minutes ,possibly 14 minutes, if you really put in what it takes. And choose a fast super competitive course like Chicago. You've got the talent, all the se years of training, you just need to forget the mountains for one summer. Congrats for all your achievements

@VietBotPDX 6 ай бұрын

Agree and I also want to add the idea that you need to dedicate a full 16 weeks if you’re serious about sub 2:18. Running pikes peak prior to CIM certainly didn’t help! Perhaps skip it in 2024 to focus on Chicago marathon?

@simonrunc8067 6 ай бұрын

Agree, another Pikes Peak wouldn't be that interesting.

@sylvainhyais8166 6 ай бұрын

@@simonrunc8067 yeah I think he won it a few years back,and is in top 3 or 4 every year, running his very best at the marathon would give him new unforgettable emotions

@VietBotPDX 6 ай бұрын

@@sylvainhyais8166need to find some new bread to butter!

@wk633 6 ай бұрын

I've run CIM four times (my only marathon so no other courses to compare to). The "BQ Factory" is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. People go there to run fast, so you have a lot of fast people running. The key is definitely to hold back in the first half. I've always done well starting with a pace group 5 min SLOWER than I think I can run. This is the first year I didn't do that and I think it cost me a bit. Knowing the course I did pull the plug on my goal when the wheels were just wobbling, not completely gone, so I still managed a 6 min PR- but blown quads by mile 18 isn't unusual.

@daviddiazlife 6 ай бұрын

The stair images are a serious reminder of how hard anyone must go to achieve their personal goals!!!

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

so sore, but still smiling

@user-zz1uy8fe6t 6 ай бұрын

Great course. PR'd here in 2019. It is a fast course. The gentle rollers do a nice job of breaking up the stride a bit to avoid the same muscles being used exactly the same way for the duration. Far faster than a flat course.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

nice, congrats!

@ericpetersen8645 6 ай бұрын

I’m from Florida and train on pancake flat sea level. I’ve run Chicago and Boston. Ran CIM last weekend and was not surprised given the warnings I got from YT vids. Be disciplined on the first half and be ready for the bridge and a couple other points in the second half. Boston was much harder for me and Chicago was a dream. Given all this, I ran sub-3 for the first time at CIM (2:59:11). If I hadn’t have been mentally prepared for the course I think I would have had a different result. I was working with very little margin in my pacing plan. There is info out there, we just have to look.

@WhiskyMystery 6 ай бұрын

Perfect. Congrats.

@chrisbryan1872 6 ай бұрын

Exactly. Info is readily available in this day and age if you do your homework. And it’s easy homework…

@ninjacookric3 6 ай бұрын

I can relate!!! Two years ago, post race I had your same reaction 100%. My quads were done as well…

@alexanderdigkas7429 6 ай бұрын

I can't believe that you check elevation charts on the marathons website.. It looks odd with your backround that you blame the course and its not the first time 😕

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

Did you watch the whole video Alexander? I specifically said I did not train correctly. Have a great day and be well.

@joeystrickland7955 6 ай бұрын

With all the information out there I don't really understand how you missed it. Even as an older slow runner I look at information on every race I run. Good luck going forward.

@MiloSteinhauer 6 ай бұрын

I ran CIM in 2022! It was my first marathon and had been the marathon I wanted to be where I made my debut for a while. As someone who grew up in a hilly area, I loved the downhills on the course, and the hills didn't bother me noticeably on race day. I loved the downhills cause they helped me pick up my speed. That said, I felt the soreness HELLA. That's definitely the most pain my legs have been in. I could barely walk it was a struggle. I'm aiming to run Eugene in April but then might be going back to CIM again for my fall marathon. Something about that marathon has me loving it a lot

@frankehbrecht 6 ай бұрын

You should run the Blue Ridge Marathon in Roanoke, Virginia. Widely considered the hardest road marathon in the US! It was one of my favorite courses I’ve ever run. Small town marathon, but amazingly beautiful route along the Blue Ridge Parkway.

@sesapabalan390 6 ай бұрын

I’ve run CIM a number of times and have bonked on the course, but I’ve also negative split twice. One year Strava did a promo giving free New Balance shoes to people who negative split so I was especially motivated to start off a bit slower so I could give them to my fiancé as his Christmas present 😅. It is a PR course, but people should still start a bit slower in the beginning and train on hilly courses. For the past 10 years I’ve always researched courses on Strava. I strongly encourage people to do this so they can factor the course and weather in their training!

@estebanarayaguzman4012 6 ай бұрын

I went there last year and i really enjoy the course. Is beautiful, but is not easy.. those hills are hard!

@attackedbywaterfoul 6 ай бұрын

one would think running literal mountains would make some rolling hills not that big of a deal. if you didn't check other runners' garmin or strava pages who've run the race then it's on you, not the race directors or the course.

@grumblecat 6 ай бұрын

Being from Sacramento CIM is my home marathon and this weekend was #7 for me. I think everyone from out of town is surprised their first time running it that the hills are as punchy as they are. Nothing big just annoying and continuous. That said I think the real reason CIM is normally fast isn't as much the course as it is the weather. Normally we have nearly perfect running weather for the race. Usually about 42 at start with a daytime high of 52-53, also usually moderate humidity. Unfortunately this year it was at least 10 degrees warmer with a start over 50 and a daytime high in the mid 60's with humidity in the upper 70% at least. I think that contributed to lots of people (myself included) having a bit of a more difficult day.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

"PUNCHY" hills is a PERFECT way to describe those first 13 miles. just perfect. Appreciate this insight, truly.

@markuscg1 6 ай бұрын

My first half marathon was the Fall Equinox Half in Fort Collins, CO. It was totally downhill. My legs were sore but since it was my first race over 5K I kind of held back.

@user-xr5mv2bd6b 6 ай бұрын

You’re too good of a runner to consistently blame the course. You really have the training history (aerobic volume) and big talent with obvious genetics to do well. However, and I am not a bot, the constant theme of your races is to blame a course. First time you did that was Nolan’s, then Speedgoat, then a finish line rail, then your last 50k. Did you blame the course at run rabbit? Now you blame the CIM course? Again please be honest in your assessment with your race. Good luck at Chicago. You have it in you to run 2:18 even if you don’t believe it.

@blairstrahan2147 6 ай бұрын

Said similar thing and he deleted my comment!

@Ekim2411 6 ай бұрын

I ran CIM this weekend as well. I agree with you. I expected a smoother and more downhill experience after the half-marathon marker. It was downhill but with more rolling hills. My legs were baked by mile 18 or 19. Overall, I enjoyed CIM, and I would do it again.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Erik for sharing a bit of your experience!

@rollingknight2012 6 ай бұрын

I agree, Erik. I was out there as well and share those same thoughts.

@Wj21-m3c 6 ай бұрын

That exactly sums up how I felt on the course as well. The second half was way harder than I thought it would be and the quads felt pretty trashed by the time I reached the bridge

@justindiaz8250 6 ай бұрын

Got to go back!!!!

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

#redemption tour

@AmbroseH 6 ай бұрын

Easily put… the first half has a decent amount of rollers that impact your legs, the 2nd half not so much. The field is just full of fast people shooting to BQ and OTQ. Best advice would be to save your legs for a faster second half and definitely work on hills during training 😅. Definitely a fun race though, I enjoyed the atmosphere and city.

@gcklo 6 ай бұрын

2023 was my 8th CIM, but the first one I ran hard in years. I Years ago I thought it was an easy and fast course (still my PR). I have forgotten about the tough rolling hills and was not trained for it. My legs were shot at the end!

@zoko91 6 ай бұрын

I ran CIM last year and last week as well. Rolling hills and net downhill is not equal to easy. I believe is a good prep marathon for Boston (ran this year as well), similar feeling in my opinion.

@brendandell4084 6 ай бұрын

I thought it was fun! That said, definitely not flat. I would definitely run it again.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

100% fun! Thanks for sharing Brendan.

@daviddiazlife 6 ай бұрын

Awesome and thanks!!

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

Appreciate you David, March March March!

@Lalo_Runs 6 ай бұрын

It kicked my ass the last 5 miles!!! 😤😤 me and cim have unfinished business!! Going back in 2024!!

@michaelrockow5461 6 ай бұрын

I ran it in 2019 and I came in injured (calf strain). So the rollers hurt me early, and then the humidity hurt me late. I liked the course though. I'd run it again if I could get to the starting line healthy.

@kirabrooks5462 6 ай бұрын

Very hard to find terrain that can mimic the rollers on pavement like CIM has. I did a bit of research before but was still surprised by the lack of any flat ground for the first half of the race (you are always going up or coming down!). I did find the race sponsored course video to be very helpful but did not find that until a few days prior to the race.

@dwightbrissey9991 6 ай бұрын

In my 15+ marathons, the only 2 DNFs were both at CIM...quads blown.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

Interesting.

@zachmcpherson2901 6 ай бұрын

Doesn’t get much better than the farm roads north of Boulder for some hilly Long Runs. Park at Tom Watson Park and you can string together some big mileage runs with some quality hills.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

I hear you man, they're close for sure, its the overall net downhill point to point that I'm seeking. Appreciate the comment zach

@zachmcpherson2901 6 ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠⁠@@SethJamesDeMoorthat’s totally fair. My training group strings together some nice 12-16 mile P2P downhill routes out there but it’s hard to get a full 20+ downhill like with Cherry Creek Trail.

@matthewdavies6470 6 ай бұрын

He’s dunking on the course as he trained badly and needs an excuse, rather than accept he needs a coach.

@johngault8688 6 ай бұрын

It's all about the vertical exaggeration of any particular map. I've been fooled plenty of times by map profiles.😁

@stephe999 6 ай бұрын

PS. Boston way harder.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

good to know! thanks for sharing

@FunkyFaulc 3 ай бұрын

I live here and didn't even realize it was going to feel as rolling as it was. Ha! But that's because I'm primarily a cyclist and the rolling hills aren't that tough on a bike! I had the same. I did a 13.1 PR and then blew up around mi 20. ;)

@rly1977 6 ай бұрын

thank you for that. I previously commented about how I had mixed feelings about the course, it was because I PRed by 13 minutes on my 9th marathon in this race and unexpectedly qualified for Berlin. I have been having imposter syndrome thinking well, did I do this because it is a "cheater" course?

@jimoconnor8597 6 ай бұрын

I PR'd this year by 17 minutes, despite the course. I think we both just were in great shape!!!!!!

@rly1977 6 ай бұрын

@@jimoconnor8597 a huge ecstatic high 5! grats! I love this sport!

@so4reelz 6 ай бұрын

Hey Seth - There's a nice long downhill stretch in SE Aurora starting from Smoky Hill Rd heading west down Arapahoe Rd. 8 mile stretch with 690 ft decent until you get to Cherry Creek State Park where it flattens out. Otherwise, SE Aurora near the Aurora reservoir has a lot of rollers. This is where I trained for a Revel race and it prepared me well! Good luck!

@tehorakwanekengoodleaf8626 6 ай бұрын

haha yeah net downhill on pavement sounds like a rough one for sure! gonna need some iron quads for that 😂

@jakescott2352 6 ай бұрын

I completely agree with you! I ran this year and felt the same way... The hills got me!

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Jake for the comment, glad you made it though!

@javierquintero9640 6 ай бұрын

I ran CIM twice, once in 2019 and this past Sunday. In 2019 I had my best marathon ever with a 2:45. The whole race felt fast. This past Sunday I had a rough race and ran 2:52. My legs were destroyed by mile 14. I don’t know why this time was so much harder than last time I ran it.

@iambrent 6 ай бұрын

Humidity

@sesapabalan390 6 ай бұрын

I heard it was warmer this year. But congrats on your race, you had a great time!

@jimoconnor8597 6 ай бұрын

Echoing your sentiment here Seth! I ran last week as well and was shocked while I was out on the course. Definitely my fault for not doing my homework. I ended up running a 17 minute PR, 3:08:22 from 3:25:48, so I'm OK. I run rollers every day down in South GA so I was more than prepared for the physical pounding. Just mentally I was taken aback a bit every hill I ran up/down. We must be on the same schedule as I too am going to Chicago in 2024 and CIM was my 6th road marathon. After my results at CIM, I'm going to give sub 3 a shot in Chicago!!!!! See you there!

@nevidljivicovek2751 6 ай бұрын

Next time you should go backward down the stairs! That will help enormously.

@dansouth2088 6 ай бұрын

I only run trail races, but I will say that I'd rather have long climbs and descents versus endless smaller hills.

@Wings_nut 6 ай бұрын

The rollers are brutal. To prepare my quads for both CIM and Boston, I do daily wall sits for as long as I can.

@sylvainhyais8166 6 ай бұрын

Excellent exercice, I do them on a regular basis ,e.g. 8 times 1 minute effort(1 minute rest)

@Wings_nut 6 ай бұрын

@@sylvainhyais8166 indeed

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

nice work!

@Wings_nut 6 ай бұрын

@@SethJamesDeMoor Thx Seth

@rcsparks07 6 ай бұрын

Wish that someone had told me this after I ran it two years ago. Went there to PR and when I didn't I remember finishing and thinking that we'd all been told the biggest lie by the organizers.

@richardrankin7488 6 ай бұрын

Nice to see you in your shoedio!

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

we're back!

@davidgunther1282 6 ай бұрын

The 2023 CIM was my first ever marathon. I live in Sacramento, I’m 50 years old, and I just started running this past April. I ran it in 3:54 and am never doing that again! I still can’t walk normal and it’s been almost a week. That last 6 miles was a bear, even though it was the flattest part of the course. Nope. Never doing that again. I’ll make a sign and stand on the side of the road next year.

@diegoosalas 6 ай бұрын

Just ran CIM as well, definitely not a fast course (fast race yes!, but mainly because of all the people trying to OTQ), and agree with you on the smoothness.

@ronrunsworld 6 ай бұрын

Great and important video! races should be more accurate with the course description! Lots of races use the words "flat" and "fast" in order to describe the course which in reality it is NOT true. I don't mind "rollers", but as long as I am not local, I want to know what is coming on race day.

@sotimak6554 6 ай бұрын

Let’s go Seth 👌

@mikedickerson3944 6 ай бұрын

Amazing to me how many people blow it on this course. Run smart; negative split this course. Instead, people smash the first mile which is downhill and then complain about their quads later in the race. Forget the pack, they go out too hard. Break this course down into sections. Know when to go easy/hard. It’s not the fastest course, but if paced correctly, it is a fast course.

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

how'd you do this year....or in the past? sounds like well!

@mikedickerson3944 6 ай бұрын

@@SethJamesDeMoor BQ-12.

@OvernightCountFraud2024 6 ай бұрын

I promise not to CI(Y)M

@kylem8016 6 ай бұрын

Seth, I’ve run CIM once and it is a challenge. If you really want a fast marathon run the Santa Rosa Marathon. It is much easier in my opinion.

@sesapabalan390 6 ай бұрын

Santa Rosa is harder in my opinion due to the weather. Plus the course is rather boring. (But I lived in Santa Rosa for three years so I may be biased!)

@Eirikkinserdal 6 ай бұрын

But now you know 😅

@erikRR 6 ай бұрын

First!

@SethJamesDeMoor 6 ай бұрын

zoom zoom!

@Carrottoprunner 6 ай бұрын

A bunch of my friends said the same things about this course when they ran it in 2021. They are close to being elite runners and they struggled. Thanks for your honest review - helps a lot

@aprilgrumbles5020 6 ай бұрын

Same issue! Bought into the “fast course” and did not prepare properly. Thank you for making this video. The rolling hills are not talked about enough!