Calligraphy Basics from a Left Handed Calligrapher || 15 Minute Overview

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ElisaAnne Calligraphy

ElisaAnne Calligraphy

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Welcome to my channel! I'm Elisabeth of ElisaAnne Calligraphy. I create & offer high-end custom wedding invitations, handwritten calligraphy, wax seals, invitation assembly, and more. I have a passion for my work and enjoy using my experience to educate and assist other creatives! My KZfaq channel is full of tutorials, guides, and tips & tricks for calligraphers (especially you fellow lefties out there!).
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This is my first video going over the basics of calligraphy from a left-handed point of view. Left handed calligraphy is possible, but more rare than right handed calligraphy. If you are right-handed, don't be shy! There are plenty of tips in this video that would also work for you.
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@chetrok1
@chetrok1 7 жыл бұрын
I taught myself to write backwards over the years, as well as learned to float my wrist while moving foreward, us lefties are some of the worlds renouned calligraphers
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm impressed!
@pleasestopleavealone2981
@pleasestopleavealone2981 3 жыл бұрын
all lefties can write backwards..
@fairsaa7975
@fairsaa7975 3 жыл бұрын
@@pleasestopleavealone2981 idk I struggle
@thebusinessprose7542
@thebusinessprose7542 3 жыл бұрын
@@pleasestopleavealone2981 - It's true! Recently I noticed that - purely by accident - while struggling with a Tombow brush pen.
@marypatelhattab6253
@marypatelhattab6253 2 жыл бұрын
Way back in the dark ages 😊 when I learned to do calligraphy the only way lefties were taught was to draw the letters backwards to keep your hand from smearing the ink. Things have really progressed!
@saosinlunatic
@saosinlunatic 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video. I'm just getting started on calligraphy and was really concerned with being a lefty. This has some really great information.
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@chriswolfe7830
@chriswolfe7830 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video for us lefties mate! :D
@chriswolfe7830
@chriswolfe7830 8 жыл бұрын
Very much so! :D
@jagygn
@jagygn 7 жыл бұрын
Yup thanks so much 💕
@BritgirlTX
@BritgirlTX 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏼
@valtersyos6096
@valtersyos6096 7 жыл бұрын
A left handed in Japan, much appreciated your channel!! Congratulations!
@fatimaalzarouni1621
@fatimaalzarouni1621 7 жыл бұрын
Arabic calligraphy is easier for left handed than right handed because Arabic is written from right to left unlike English but still im practicing both. thank you Elisa, btw im from the middle east
@user-yb8fs4el3y
@user-yb8fs4el3y 5 жыл бұрын
Fatima Al Zarouni same
@CK2012
@CK2012 3 жыл бұрын
The same could be from Asians They write right to left top to bottom If I remember correctly.
@user-tn7kl3sq2r
@user-tn7kl3sq2r 3 жыл бұрын
yes i practice shahmukhi one of the writing systems of punjabi, it is inspired by the persian alphabet with added sounds it match the language. it’s very fun
@alans.wendelschafer6588
@alans.wendelschafer6588 3 жыл бұрын
@@CK2012 Japanese written in the more traditional way is like that.
@mei.mei1
@mei.mei1 2 жыл бұрын
I was a leftie forced to be right handed, and relearning how to do things with my left hand. I naturally write backwards (mirror imaged) with my left hand, but this writing is only for myself to read (I have no trouble reading mirror writing). I want to try Arabic calligraphy at it's so beautiful.
@kellercrucita550
@kellercrucita550 4 ай бұрын
Hi! I am watching your video again because is so interesting. Thanks for this information. I am a lefthanded person with enthusiasm to learn calligraphy techniques.
@GreatGreebo
@GreatGreebo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I have always thought I couldn’t write using calligraphy because I’m left handed (my high school art teacher even went so far as to have me sit out the calligraphy assignments because he said it was “pointless” for me to even try to learn as a left handed person!!! I’ve always wanted to write in calligraphy but because of his one bit of misinformation I’ve never even tried. Ha! You’re videos have proven him wrong!! Once again, Thank you❤️
@babygrrls5212
@babygrrls5212 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe he would say something like that to his student!! Ugh so rude! I bet you wish you could go back and tell him a big “I told you so!” Haha
@GreatGreebo
@GreatGreebo Жыл бұрын
@@babygrrls5212 I really do 🤣
@charisseann3765
@charisseann3765 8 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm very happy to come across this video of yours. I've recently taken interest in learning calligraphy and being a leftie I also struggled on how best to position my hand to not smudge the paper. you just earned yourself a new subscriber! :) looking forward to learning more tips from you. Thanks!
@horseshoe_nc
@horseshoe_nc 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting videos from a left handed perspective. I've been writing with fountain pens for about a year. But just recently started getting into flex writing. Actually just got a Speedball dip pen set for Christmas.
@michelletabb5010
@michelletabb5010 4 жыл бұрын
I’m so excited I found your channel! Such great tips. Thank you!
@Jesse-FenixRizin
@Jesse-FenixRizin 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! As a lefty myself, this is by far one of the best videos I have watched and it has helped me tremendously. Thank you. I will be watching more of your videos.
@Mortiana27
@Mortiana27 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the gum arabic tip! I'm very new to dip pen writing and it's nice to know these things early on :)
@CADI71
@CADI71 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video! I'm left handed as well and I have recently began looking into calligraphy as a hobby and noticed how most people that practice the art are right handed. I find it really peaceful to watch and hoping to buy my supplies soon. Thank you for the tips! :D
@inkinikki
@inkinikki 8 жыл бұрын
That bit about mixing gum arabic is gold! We don't have any good supplies stores here and I wanted to buy ink. The only ones we had were marker refill ink and fountain pen ink. I got the Parker pen refill and it wasn't very viscous. I feel I may have wasted my money but this trick could work! I also don't want to spend so much on calligraphy paper. Thanks!
@dionellacubero3509
@dionellacubero3509 8 жыл бұрын
This was mega useful! I've recently started calligraphy and without knowing bought myself an oblique nib holder. This video has clarified so much for me, keep it going! Already have some new nibs and pen holder on their way.!
@dylanu6695
@dylanu6695 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! left handed here in Maine. and I love the art of writing
@Emaretta
@Emaretta 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video! I look forward to watching more and trying calligraphy myself.
@rworrick8037
@rworrick8037 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow south paw with a random interest in possibly learning calligraphy this video was most helpful. I look forward to watching the rest of the series to see if I'll actually jump into this. Thanks for sharing!
@KissTheCookie
@KissTheCookie 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video :) I'm a graphic designer and really wanted to get into lettering, but of course, no one could teach me 100% as a lefty!
@RachAndAlly
@RachAndAlly 8 жыл бұрын
Hi there! I am another lefty just starting out with calligraphy, and your videos have helped a lot! I was wondering when/if you were still planning on posting a video about mixing the gum arabic with the ink? That would be a HUGE help, I feel like I've already spent a chunk of change on calligraphy paper, so being able to use regular printer paper would be great! Looking forward to your next video! :)
@Paige.Robinson
@Paige.Robinson 5 ай бұрын
thank you ElisaAnne for this video. this seems to be closest to my hand position style as well, and very helpful. have a wonderful day.
@Crucent
@Crucent 5 жыл бұрын
Best video ive ever seen for lefties on calligraphy! Im so happy!!!
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh yay!!
@Maugrim76
@Maugrim76 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a southpaw too. This helps so much. Thanks! I've never really tried an ink-dip calligraphy pen before (just the felt tip, and mostly medieval style lettering). I am so eager to try this now. 😁
@christinestafford2089
@christinestafford2089 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Im a lefty and just started calligraphy. Not doing to well, but you answered alot of my questions. Thanks again
@christinestafford2089
@christinestafford2089 7 жыл бұрын
Im practicing, gone through a ton of paper..haha
@catcollins2284
@catcollins2284 7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Thank you so much!!!
@mirkskids8565
@mirkskids8565 4 жыл бұрын
thanks so much!!! As a leftie, this is super hard for me to do calligraphy because I feel that it's only for right handed people. I was also getting really concerned. Thanks so much!
@shaunnamyers8878
@shaunnamyers8878 8 жыл бұрын
I've just really started putting a lot of time into calligraphy and I'm finding as a lefty that my print looks better if I work right to left. I think because I feel less drag when I pull from the right instead of pushing from the left. I'm really hoping I can get better the traditional way as well! Practice makes perfect!
@horseshoe_nc
@horseshoe_nc 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Us lefties have to adapt to a right handed world. I wasn't sure how to start in calligraphy. This video was a huge help.
@KenDelloSandro7565
@KenDelloSandro7565 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow southpaw, I've never seen another lefty write so beautiful. Keep up the good work. Lefties rule!!!
@Smokdeel
@Smokdeel 6 жыл бұрын
I’m left handed too and am just about to start so thank you for sharing. Very much appreciated
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@TwistedSoul2002
@TwistedSoul2002 3 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought you were going to write, “hello, world” like a computer programmer. 😂
@kakeru21
@kakeru21 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a left handed and it didn't stop me from doing calligraphy and drawing illustrations although I couldn't practice everyday which is vital for improvements but at least I accomplished something 😊 And oh try using highlighters for calligraphy it's good even for lefties 😁
@GeefeAlba
@GeefeAlba 5 жыл бұрын
you are awesome! im new to calligraphy and im so happy i found a leftie! :) thank you so much for this.im learning along. cheers!
@jamtaylor1992
@jamtaylor1992 Жыл бұрын
Love this
@victoriatrestrail
@victoriatrestrail 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Excellent video.
@ovoovie5910
@ovoovie5910 Жыл бұрын
You are so good with left hand so good i am so happy
@MMGARC
@MMGARC 8 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, Elisa Anne! I have been searching for a Left-handed calligraphy teacher - but to no avail. I started watching video's on You tube, but they were all right handed. I took a class years ago and was the only lefty in the entire class. And finally, I wrote a comment on a video and they said to look you up and ......Whella!! Here you are! You are such a good teacher and cannot wait to watch all your video's. Thank you so much for sharing your advice and experiences on writing as a lefty.
@MMGARC
@MMGARC 8 жыл бұрын
Darn - I cannot remember who it was, I'm so sorry, Elisa Anne. Thanks for your quick reply - I can't wait to see more of your future video's!! Very inspiring to me!
@maisondumewcustomdollsbyte127
@maisondumewcustomdollsbyte127 3 жыл бұрын
Thank for this video. I have always had trouble with calligraphy writing mostly because everything is for right handed people. Even in Art school I found it extremely difficult because I was the only leftie. I did just pass the course. I love writing with regular pens markers etc but I always avoid calligraphy pens. Not I am going to give it another try because of your videos. Thanks again.
@narghayfooooo
@narghayfooooo 7 жыл бұрын
Hey ! Thanks for your video :) I'm waiting the next video and tips to progress !
@donnamatoi5256
@donnamatoi5256 7 жыл бұрын
thanks! it makes so much more sense now!
@lizzvid
@lizzvid 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! I'm starting to teach myself and was a bit nervous as a lefty
@julieottaway177
@julieottaway177 4 жыл бұрын
thanks I am new to it but loving to learn it
@investingwithaaron9876
@investingwithaaron9876 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such tips on lefty caligraphy!
@Mandycutie666
@Mandycutie666 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this!
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
you're welcome!
@the_neutral_container
@the_neutral_container 4 жыл бұрын
I'm one of the weird-hand-postioners. At art school, when we were learning Carolingian minuscule, I ended up writing upside down and right to left. It looked super weird but the script turned out nice and smear-free.
@lauriep3334
@lauriep3334 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your tips. I just found your channel. I tried calligraphy before, but I got frustrated as a lefty. Going to start again.
@MC-qr8hh
@MC-qr8hh 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks that was helpful.😊 hope to see more videos
@kristymercer7543
@kristymercer7543 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video!! super helpful!
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@fandangofandango2022
@fandangofandango2022 5 жыл бұрын
Wish I could write like that / I us to get the cane at school because I was Lefted Handed and could not produce Nice Writing at 65 I really still can not Write. I Think You Video is Wonderful.
@ultimategamer8139
@ultimategamer8139 4 жыл бұрын
This just blew my mind. I grew up thinking calligraphy was impossible for me.
@jobernhardt6531
@jobernhardt6531 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Hubby and I are both Southpaws. I found an old set of 30 Speedball nibs and 3 wood handles for $5. This is exactly what I needed. 😀
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 6 жыл бұрын
Yay! So great to hear!
@PureBlood-du6wv
@PureBlood-du6wv 11 ай бұрын
You are absolutely precious 💖 I'm from Georgia too! Born and raised.
@hnkjg0
@hnkjg0 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video for lefthanders 🙂
@trishasargeant6435
@trishasargeant6435 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for some helpful ideas for us lefties. I gave up practising because I got such hung up and frustrated about the angle you need to have, I cannot for the life of me work out just where this angle is?? Lol, anyway after coming across your info and ideas i think I just might have another go at it soon, it really is such a beautiful art and a joy to watch others writing it. Thank you I will look out for your other tips x
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Trisha! Lots of modern calligraphers write without a slant, so don't get too hung up on that :)
@Panic_Pickle
@Panic_Pickle 7 жыл бұрын
I've had the awful issue of "mirroring" over the diagonal in writing style versus a right handed, so I angle the paper so rather than writing below with the paper tilted 45° left I write above with the same tilt. Works great for biro but doesn't make for good calligraphy. So cool to see comprehensive left-handed guides to dip pen writing!
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they have been helpful! I hope to make even better videos soon!
@Daniel-hz2gg
@Daniel-hz2gg 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice! Lefties understand each other's pain...
@denfeatherstone3917
@denfeatherstone3917 6 жыл бұрын
VERY INFORMATIVE - THANK YOU!
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@isabelleraposo262
@isabelleraposo262 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@lynnnguyen7815
@lynnnguyen7815 7 жыл бұрын
thank you for such an informative video! Much appreciated coming from another fellow left-'handy' =)
@shirleywilk7254
@shirleywilk7254 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Thank you!
@reginaldwelkin
@reginaldwelkin 3 жыл бұрын
I tried calligraphy and became frustrated by poor nibs, expensive paper, and not knowing how to write well with my left hand. Ended up writing backwards most of the time until I packed my nibs somewhere. Thanks for the video! You and another calligrapher have encouraged me to try again.
@drfranke
@drfranke 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Goulet pens don't know what they're talking about; you clearly do!!!
@americannotamericant1773
@americannotamericant1773 7 жыл бұрын
God bless you dear, the struggle for left handiness in writing together is difficult but the art of calligraphy and being left handiness must be hardline. As a lefty I have mostly given up on writing on paper because of the constant smudges and constant hand staining. I may try to write with the techniques you recommended.
@MC-qr8hh
@MC-qr8hh 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks that video was helpful.😊
@davidjean5075
@davidjean5075 4 жыл бұрын
I just started getting into this but I also right upside down and sideways so I think I might be good.
@unkrautgartenkeinnachname237
@unkrautgartenkeinnachname237 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that video, it's really hard to find ressources for left handed writers. I've read that you can alternate between a top(over the font) position and an under (the font) position. Any thoughts about that? I'm not sure which is best for me. Thanks!
@spencergeller2236
@spencergeller2236 7 жыл бұрын
You are a Saint.
@naydarodriguez8715
@naydarodriguez8715 4 жыл бұрын
Me encantó. Será de utilidad para mi. Gracias y que Dios te bendiga.
@alvax2455
@alvax2455 4 жыл бұрын
great thanks
@danielleshipp1956
@danielleshipp1956 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you😊
@MorenoBison
@MorenoBison 6 жыл бұрын
GRAZIE Elisa, GRAZIE Ancora, Stavo per arrendermi quando ho trovato il tuo video. Ho scritto finalmente con il pennino e l'inchiostro!!!!! Vorrei Abbracciarti Tanto sono contento.....è il mio sogno di quando ero bambino.....GRAZIE
@abbyheath9598
@abbyheath9598 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Elisa, thank you for your videos. I tried mixing the gum arabic and ink after watching your other video and I'm having trouble because the mixture is sort of watery and separated, and doesn't write very nicely. I shook it vigorously to combine but that hasn't helped. Has this happened to you, and do you have any advice? Thank you!
@bessinbrosplumbing7995
@bessinbrosplumbing7995 3 жыл бұрын
"Left Handy" has me dying. You are making us southpaws very happy to have this video. Thank you
@animes4ever
@animes4ever 7 жыл бұрын
nice video you gave me hope to improve my handwriting. you are also easy on the eyes ;)
@damiannadolski
@damiannadolski 6 жыл бұрын
Nice videos. What about calligraphy for lefties using stub nibs ? For ex Pilot Plumix or Parallel pen?
@sandroantonio7632
@sandroantonio7632 7 жыл бұрын
Fantástica!
@betsy1947
@betsy1947 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! I just started a class last night and there were only 2 of us lefties. This is so informative.
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 7 жыл бұрын
Did the instructor give you a straight holder to use instead of an oblique??
@betsy1947
@betsy1947 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, we got straight holders. :)
@AlexPanda92
@AlexPanda92 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the inspiration as a lefty. I'm off to Beverly's to gear up! 😁
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
Yay! You're welcome!
@izzy158
@izzy158 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I recently got into calligraphy and myself being a lefty, I find it all confusing in some way or the other. How can I tell the difference between nibs suitable for left-handed opposing to right-handed people and what nibs would be suitable for both? It's kind of mind-boggling...
@alans.wendelschafer6588
@alans.wendelschafer6588 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Lefties unite! 🤜
@WebCreations88
@WebCreations88 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the obleak nib to try doing right handed calligraphy styles, it was designed for them to write like a left handed person so should work just as well Vice versa?
@luxesmith77
@luxesmith77 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, keep going!
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Anything you'd like to see next?
@vgdeshmukh74
@vgdeshmukh74 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Elisa , nice video , I am lefty but I feel comfortable writing with obliqe pen holder rather than straight holder. It took long for me to get used to obliqe holder.
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever works best for you is great!
@KatCap
@KatCap 7 жыл бұрын
laaaave 💕 this beginning calligraphy video for lefties! wasn't sure where to start! 😸
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
yay, you're welcome!
@jennyvoss7738
@jennyvoss7738 2 жыл бұрын
May you do a series on “regular writing” for lefties? :D
@bouclechocolat
@bouclechocolat 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on using fountain pen (dye) ink with a dip pen? Also, i'm interested in trying dip pens for art - do you have any experience with using heavier/rougher papers like mix media or cotton watercolor paper? I tried calligraphy a few years ago on some kind of fancy paper (with calligraphy ink), afraid I don't remember what it was, but the ink would bead on top of the paper and look awful. It was very discouraging. x_x
@althaconley
@althaconley 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm left handed also and have always wanted to learn. Could you please do more tutorials for the left handlers out here. It's sort of confusing trying learn from right handlers. Thank you so much for this and hopefully more tutorials.
@christiancuevas6086
@christiancuevas6086 3 жыл бұрын
Man! ur so dang pretty!
@jkrause365
@jkrause365 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I'm left handed too.
@emilyteffer5064
@emilyteffer5064 7 жыл бұрын
What paper do you suggest for final print pieces that will be sold ?
@chrisopheroptional7990
@chrisopheroptional7990 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you . You're a rose in a field of daisy's.
@GoldBold563
@GoldBold563 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video! Would you recommend a microfiber cloth for cleaning? Or should you stick to the more abrasive papaer towels.
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
I've never had a problem using paper towels :) It's all personal preference!
@luismorande5789
@luismorande5789 7 жыл бұрын
Gracias Elissa, tu explicación fue excelente!!! Me gustaria aprender técnicas con Parallel pen , para lefties.
@fbkseanoyaz8669
@fbkseanoyaz8669 Жыл бұрын
hiiii, i just saw your video passed by my recommendations and watched it because of interest and I'm really amazed by your penmanship. Do you have any tips to improve one's penmanship? I'm a left-handed person but my penmanship is really bad (like really really bad) and I want to improve it.
@saulpineda3795
@saulpineda3795 6 жыл бұрын
This video was really helpful! Now I feel more decided to start practicing with this kind of tools. I have the same grip as you but I've had some bad experience with fountain pens because normally I write with little pressure over the paper, so my handwriting is very fine and I couldn't write very good with it. Do you recommend me to try with a leftie's nib? I mean, is there a notable change in comfort when writing?
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
Just use a pointed pen nib (dip pen), like a Nikko G! Sometimes fountain pen nibs are biased toward right handed writers and suck for lefties!
@prabhleenkaur7803
@prabhleenkaur7803 3 жыл бұрын
Proud to be a lefty😄
@benhenderson9437
@benhenderson9437 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get the thick and thin lines in your writing when the nib doesn't look like the calligraphy pens I have seen before?
@joanrose9170
@joanrose9170 2 жыл бұрын
Elisa, can you use regular calligraphy books to learn left-handed calligraphy?
@breenicole387
@breenicole387 6 жыл бұрын
I love this! I'm left handed but I slant my paper to the far right to write. I also hold my pen/pencil similar to the second way you showed when you were showing how you hold your pen. It Makes things like calligraphy seem 1000x more difficult to attempt. Any advice for issues like that? Lol.
@elisaanne
@elisaanne 5 жыл бұрын
Keep practicing with the way you hold your hand! It's different for everyone! And try angling the paper differently as well!
@cjr.5028
@cjr.5028 6 жыл бұрын
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