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@DannyTube695 жыл бұрын
Just started 30k. I'm playing iron warriors and my friend is playing Ultramarines. We are loving it and want these box sets to return
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
Quick note for people, I will be doing a video quite soon that will focus on the books, which ones you will need for what factions and why. Seems kinda important.... ~Macca
@grailknightofenoch12636 жыл бұрын
nice
@EMWandMBW6 жыл бұрын
Maybe a comparison between the big expensive book series and the basic rules book?
@henrythe9th3776 жыл бұрын
Elijah Weisberg you can get free PDFs of them. No need to spend money on them.
@seriade6 жыл бұрын
Macca what legions do you think the mk3 armor appearance/lore wise are preferred over the mk4?
@henrythe9th3776 жыл бұрын
Leo Nidas Yes really!! There’s no way I’m buying a £70 that’s going to be outdated by a new edition. They’re not story books.
@saturnalia92206 жыл бұрын
Calth wins BTW.
@MarneusAndMilkyBlood6 жыл бұрын
I really don't get the hate for mah boy Arhiman, I have almost no interest in 30k and yet I bough this guy multiple times from people getting rid of the HQ of the box just to paint him. I love his pose so much I'm turning one into a full blown Malignant Plaguecaster! A really commanding and iconic pose. A hell to convert, as is often the case with monopose plastics.
@777Lastmanstanding2 жыл бұрын
I use him as my Arhiman never had the old model.
@blessedpeas6 жыл бұрын
Watching this video now after FW's weird product line decisions, really shows how moving so many HH weapon and customisation items OOP could put so many people off making the jump into HH. Before you could say to yourself, "You know what, that's not a terrible idea, I can make any legion I want with some nice upgrade parts from FW, and a good part of the work will be with plastic rather than resin". Now you look at it and say, "Well, at least I now know about recasters or aftermarket stores to buy the OOP weapon and legion upgrades from"
@Sevatar_VIIIth2 жыл бұрын
I've been into 30k-40k and WH Fantasy for almost 6 years now round about, discovered the universes late in the game unfortunately. But I've only ever been a Lorehammer nerd and never played tabletop, once I looked into 40k tabletop and discovered that completely absurd paywall to even start an army not including the amount of game books constantly releasing and their prices I decided to remain a Lorehammer nerd lmao. But if I were to ever play it would be without a doubt Horus Heresy, reading through the HH series now and absolutely love it to death regardless it's flaws. I have every intention on collecting the HH FW Black books as well.....in paperback....
@bangboats35572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I started 40K with the original 40K Rogue Tradrer rulebook, but have been away from the game for some time, since about 5th edition. I missed the Horus heresy release but liked the era from original Adeptus Titanicus and Epic scale. So I was interested in getting into HH and 30K. Greetings from Katoomba NSW!
@dopeskone6 жыл бұрын
I got two Calth boxes and made two mortis dreads.
@duncanjackson61574 жыл бұрын
Can we get an f in the chat for these giga chads
@adamfox35266 жыл бұрын
Well done. I agree with your wisdom. I've purchased both sets...i like both very much; very useful
@robertlamborn75182 жыл бұрын
As What do we do now, as of September 2021, both boxes are (like so many GW products) listed as 'No Longer Available Online'.
@WarsmithThanatos4 жыл бұрын
I always hoped for a third box. Maybe with MK2 Marines or Breachers, but instead they killed them.
@mrmagpiepromotions5 жыл бұрын
"I dubbed this the Contempt or Rigor Mortis, which is a little play on words there" ... I'm not sure if you intended your delivery to sound like Korg from Thor Ragnarok (except the accent) but keep doing it, it's really funny.
@browndirt17626 жыл бұрын
as an aussie. a thumbs up from me for calling it "da fuck australian price!"
@01oo0116 жыл бұрын
Calth. It was a little disappointing when I realised the dreadnought couldn’t be posed but the cataphractii and MK4 armor made it worth it. Plan on getting prospero for the marines and sisters of silence then selling the named characters.
@TheSmart-CasualGamer5 жыл бұрын
Prospero for me. I really don't like the Mk.IV armour though, so I'm biased. I also converted the Geigor model into a completely different guy. He ended up with a Bolt Pistol and a Power Axe. Doesn't really matter now anyway, and with a different backpack and head.
@AJratcliffe6 жыл бұрын
As a side note, I know no one buys these boxes for the games, but prospero is a much much better stand alone game than calth
@cthuludreams16 жыл бұрын
Adrian Ratcliffe agreed. They're both fun, if someone takes the time to learn them, but Prospero is more fun of the 2.
@ultramarine01236 жыл бұрын
I got both for my 40k armies
@777Lastmanstanding2 жыл бұрын
I got both that was the start to my night lords legion.
@ignitedxblaze6 жыл бұрын
Both gone. I await salt
@BaileyBecca4 жыл бұрын
Wish this was still around
@Sephvion6 жыл бұрын
Bonus episode?! I love bonus episodes. Can we get a bonus bonus video? :D
@GentlemanBystander4 жыл бұрын
>managing to find a Burning of Prospero set after 2017
@rjlarose52716 жыл бұрын
See I have a problem and I went and got both..... lol
@adamfox35266 жыл бұрын
RJ LaRose ...hhaa haha me too
@rjlarose52716 жыл бұрын
For me right now is a toss up between 3 legions so im grabbing all I can to stock pile.
@psychedashell5 жыл бұрын
Same but I got two Burning and one Betrayal. Love Mk3 armour.
@shotou6 жыл бұрын
Starting my legion with a Calth set from Forgeworld.
@theezekarion1643 жыл бұрын
I Just Bought Calth BoxSet Today & Paid $300 After all was said & done. I Am making a single army out the entire boxset which is alot cheaper than buying individual from ForgeWorld
@c3ramics2 жыл бұрын
Same situation, however I hope the new HH scaled models don't invalidate these firstborn
@doofyler4 жыл бұрын
Quite funny as today both are mostly out of stock everywhere, and Prospero is heading and more expensive to get as Calth
@jamieriley84446 жыл бұрын
Some of the heavy weapons on ForgeWorld need their own resin infantry kits in order to hold them, not all of them are underslung like Bolters.
@OzymandiasRex6 жыл бұрын
actually, you can get all the weapons underslung by now. some just look a bit different / have different patterns
@SwordlordRoy6 жыл бұрын
Looking to start Death Guard, which generally favored MK III armour as it added to their already legendary toughness...And Cataphractii terminator armour for the same reasons... TT_TT Well, of to eBay to try and find those parts of both games!!!
@lochurquhart14996 жыл бұрын
Awesome I needed this
@TalexTheLich6 жыл бұрын
Is this now the only step in building a 30k army now that forgeworld screwed us? Lol (still great video dude :>)
@ExtraCarnex6 жыл бұрын
Where is my Forgewrold Ultramarines Contemptor that i can get my iconography for?
@raytanner29485 жыл бұрын
Man, I have to say I feel bad for you man. That shit is so expensive. I remember when BaC was still up, and it was like... 150... That's some serious bullshit they're pulling with you guys
@TalexTheLich6 жыл бұрын
I love this video ^-^ well done! I love the mk3 armor but its a good point that mk4 would be good for starters or people not confident in painting :) (plus i agree the dreadnought looks kinda off)
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
It's an ugly, ugly kit.
@nickster52074 жыл бұрын
Both are discontinued. Great.
@henrythe9th3776 жыл бұрын
What I want to get are the Unification Wars shoulder pads but GW/FW don’t make them.
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
Try some of the Iron Hands or Space Wolves specialist pads, or if you are fine with aftermarket, go on Shapeways website and type "Heresy" into the search bar and take a look through what comes up :)
@lazysponge6 жыл бұрын
Well its 120€ in Germany so you basicly pay for the Marines in the Boxes the rest is free. Because one squad is 40€. I already have BAC for my IVth when i start Salamanders i go for 2 Times BoP because they used MKIII. The rest i sell and buy my HQs of FW. The Austrailian prices are rediculos.
@misterduch79046 жыл бұрын
For 40k, Calth wins ,30 tactical ( in the best armour Mark imo ) 5 terminators, 2 characters and a dreadnought are a perfect way to expand your army, hell, it is almost enough for a full on Batallion by it self. You just need an extra HQ.
@unterhamster07643 жыл бұрын
So sad they arent produced anymore. I would Like to start 30k but without These Sets its Just way to expensive for me, hopefully they will bring them Back but we all know they wont :(
@Leman.Russ.6thLegion6 жыл бұрын
THEY MIXED UP TARTARUS WITH CATAPHRACTI IN THE BOXES. THE IRON PATTERN ARMOR SHOULD HAVE BEEN WITH CATAPHRACTI TERMI'S.
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
I agree. Also, the Calth box has the Contemptor, but Prospero has 5 big Custodes and 5 big Sisters of Silence. How the fuck are they the same price when one clearly has WAY more?
@gorskii47106 жыл бұрын
Is OK to mix armour types in the narrative of 30k did they have forces in both mk3 and 4 I guess there would have been a change over period? mainly looking at night lords.
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
I have never met anybody who has a problem with it.
@gorskii47106 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply
@rowanthomas37846 жыл бұрын
I am in a dilemma to pick a legion. I'm not sure If I want to pick the ultramarines or the alpha legion. Do you have any experience with these legions that you could share with me please? Bear in mind I do want to get the betrayal at calth set.
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
Well, yes, I have vast experience with both. You would need a Calth box for both armies anyway, so that's no problem there. The Ultramarines are more friendly for those new to the game, as they get a lot of flat bonuses, the Alpha Legion are a bit ore picky and need a bit more knowledge to wield. I will cover Ultramarines in the next 4 weeks or so as a legion, and I will cover the Alphas in... 10 if not more weeks.
@LiliaArmoury6 жыл бұрын
in aus got with a stockist that can do a 10% discount or better if you can
@KalashMan6 жыл бұрын
£90 to $265 wtf GW
@patrickmoody93676 жыл бұрын
Calth the as all the people are generic and usable in the same army (the thousand sons marines are very thousand sonsey) prospero is just for the lore and isn’t a very effective starter set unless you plan to be creating a space wolves, thousand sons, custodes and sisters of silence army all at once
@theezekarion1643 жыл бұрын
Owww! By tbe way i heard u don't like the hobby? 🤭😁🤣🤣😂🤣 That Stuff When I Heard It Had Me Rolling! Ur Australian 🇦🇺 & U Play Horus Heresy If that alone don't say U FREAKING LOVE IT! Than Nothing Else Does
@itsallpointless6501 Жыл бұрын
This vid is so sad now, looking at all the stuff you cannot get anymore, has the heresy really improved? hmmm
@pierat33386 жыл бұрын
I don't want to be that guy but "You're going to struggle to convert Ahriman" well I did manage it, wasn't that hard and i'm pleased with the results, again not trying to be that guy just saying it's possible and can look good
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
2 points, 1; remember it's the inexperienced/unconfident hobbyist I'm talking about here. 2; I mean more converting it to a completely different legion is hard as the Thousand Sons are so unique in style compared to the other legions, you have to change so much of the mini, it just isn't worthit.
@OzymandiasRex6 жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree with you on the storm shield thing. Why would forgeworld make a tartaros specific set if we weren't supposed to use them. I also like the idea that IF and SM developed different designs independently of each other. I wouldn't mind them being 4++ though.
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
Ozymandias1989 I haven’t seen a Tartarus set. They make a Cataphractii set and the only Tartarus set that has one is the 40k upgrade which came out with the original Tartarus over a year before the Heresy game and which was intended for use in 40k.... In other words I disagree with your disagreement hahaha
@OzymandiasRex6 жыл бұрын
Ah, it must be that one then. I retract my disagreement.
@criticalfumble19815 жыл бұрын
I always found mk 3 was easier to paint.
@skywatcheradept6 жыл бұрын
Prospero. Only Mk III (&II) marines look distinctly different from the 40k era. Calth's Mk IV marines look too similiar to MK VII from 40k + they got ugly helmets. I got 3 boxes of Prospero and zero boxes of Calth. Nothing beats Mk III unmistakable 30k aesthetic.
@OzymandiasRex6 жыл бұрын
also you can sell the custodes and to a lesser extent sisters on ebay for a good price as there is a constant demand for custards. you can also convert the sisters and run them as hightech militia or something (necromunda? full sisters ZM force?)
@kazoo6895 жыл бұрын
MKIII looks way cooler. they look like knights with amazing shoulder pads and trim. MKIV looks like bubbly trash. and cataphractii over tartaros. "for the plastic within" PLASTIC WITHIN! PLASTIC WITHOUT!
@projectbiology57266 жыл бұрын
In my opinion they should of gave different armours different rules. It may have made it complicated but it would give it a whole new layer.
@projectbiology57266 жыл бұрын
Miguel Álvarez I meant for standard astartes power armour
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
The only time it really comes into play is 'void hardened', where breachers are in a slightly better but more restrictive armour. Sadly, it doesn't HAVE to be MKIII, and sadly it isn't just a standard thing for infantry in MKIII which you can pay points for.
@leakycheese6 жыл бұрын
Project Biology The differences between the different marine armours are too subtle to represent on a D6 based large scale tabletop wargame. If you are interested in canon rules based differences the Deathwatch expansion for the Dark Heresy RPG covers the detailed characteristics of the various marks of Astartes power armour... it’s really well written and well worth a look.
@TheOuterCircle6 жыл бұрын
Also allows you to create the worlds worst marines, who have total geneseed failure. Their eyes are malfunctioning so they're virtually blind. They have damaged ears, so they have horrible balance. Their Capsulan node is damaged, so they randomly fall asleep. It's hilarious, someone legitimately did this.
@dickthunder50896 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes start simple with simple characters then get cheesed by Eldar/1000sons or Space Wolves players :)
@benrobbo29025 жыл бұрын
I want to play horus heresy i have models for it i love the setting but i hate seventh edition
@TheOuterCircle5 жыл бұрын
It's not entirely 7th edition, it shares many rules but is its own thing.
@dominionwargaming86385 жыл бұрын
Neither wins now lmao
@harveyfox40176 жыл бұрын
First
@braydoxastora55846 жыл бұрын
well i guess you congratulations........soo uh hows it goin?