Cameron Carpenter "The Great Fugue in G Minor" Live on Q2 Music in The Greene Space

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Cameron Carpenter performs J. S. Bach's "The Great Fugue in G Minor" live on Q2 Music in The Greene Space.
4/20/2012
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The virtuosic composer-organist Cameron Carpenter joins host Terrance McKnight for a kaleidoscopic tour through the beautiful and diverse repertoire for organ, from legendary works by Johann Sebastian Bach to adaptations of Charles Ives and Percy Grainger to Carpenter's original compositions and arrangements of songs by George Gershwin and Leonard Cohen.
In his exclusive New York recital this season, Carpenter provides a high-octane embarrassment of riches, all performed on a new cutting-edge digital organ by a commanding musician dubbed a "force of nature" by Alex Ross of The New Yorker and an "ambitious radical who plays with unrelenting scope, vigor and imagination" by The Advocate.
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@Slarti 9 жыл бұрын

If only Cameron Carpenter could play more Bach like this. I know it's not 'fashionable' to play beautiful music well but this is what Carpenter should be doing more of.

@charlesdavis7087 8 жыл бұрын

+jagara1 Hi Dear; I can't wait until he starts composing and performing some of his own master works. God... help us all. CVD

@generalackbar245 7 жыл бұрын

A perfect player does not necessarily make a good composer... I think these are 2 differents gifts.

@Bailey2006a 5 жыл бұрын

Cameron is never less than captivating in terms of his choices and mastery of the instrument. Like it or not, you can’t say it’s ever boring.

@oriraykai3610 7 ай бұрын

There were people who thought Art Tatum was boring. "Too many notes" they said.

@davidwray9050 5 ай бұрын

The same was said of Mozart after one of his operas, which he refuted, rightly so.

@alexanderbrown1954 9 жыл бұрын

For sheer virtuosity and dazzling joie de vivre, this man is the greatest organ player in the world at the moment. You may or may not like what he does, but there is no-one, NO-ONE who can jump around the complexities of the organ like him! NO-ONE!

@SpaghettiToaster 7 жыл бұрын

Alexander Brown except everyone who does.

@ruperttmls7985 6 жыл бұрын

The greatest? hahahaha maestro Ton Koopman is the best.

@bfg37 4 ай бұрын

He's from Outer Space, wired differently than us.

@norm29469 8 жыл бұрын

I can hear the brilliant sparkle of the weaving parts, clearly. I never could hear this structure until I was obliged to play it. Then I heard it, and I hear the sparkle, like a diamond in this performance.

@charlesdavis7087 8 жыл бұрын

+Norman Peters Dear Norm; Human beings shall stand in awe that a human being, a genius (Bach) actually composed such a work. Which is a lot like saying, "Don't cast your pearls before swine." But he did. The organ Cameron is playing in not only second rate but the whole performance was recorded poorly... and yet, the truth stands out like a full moon on a winter's night in December. Cameron is our child, our student and our teacher. Personally, I can't wait to hear his compositions played upon Earth. After all he is... our child... our student and our teacher. May he live... to love... a very, very long time. Thank you dear Cameron for being ours!!!! CVD

@darrenwilliams4828 3 жыл бұрын

Those ornaments/trills are insane. He does it so perfect even in this dry environment with little to no acoustic at all.

@mjd1949 12 жыл бұрын

This guy's a genius! Not a note of music in front of him either. I can't even play the first few bars of this prelude and fugue, so he's got my vote any day! I bet Bach would be chuckling in his grave listening to his interpretation. Way to go Cameron!

@riverstun 10 жыл бұрын

If you people want to hear every piece played exactly the same way every time, just run off and listen to what you prefer. I like hearing how different performers play it. I loved the extra ornamentation he threw in, making this a lively dance movement rather than a stodgy chorale (which I also like).

@MsNay83 3 жыл бұрын

Agree! Agree or disagree w the interpretation, it's what makes bach fun and interesting to right brained musicians

@22Tiger222 12 жыл бұрын

J.S. Bach has been waiting more than 250 years for this guy! Bach himself was a famous virtuoso at his organ as Carpenter is!

@chen0466 5 жыл бұрын

Carpenter: brilliant technical virtuosity. But this registration sounds like Bach trapped in a Nintendo video game.

@juergen07091973 3 жыл бұрын

It's, because Cameron likes dry acoustics, or better no acoustic. But in the real world, you can't install a real organ of the Size of that electronic thing in a small closet. With zero acoustic, an organ sounds not very well. I mean the organ and a matching room is a undividable thing.

@GiovanniTancrediChan 3 жыл бұрын

I think he chose these for their fast attack

@johnsantrizos7638 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Cameron doesn't consider really himself to be one who is obedient to the traditions of organ playing, as you probably gathered...

@adhill 3 жыл бұрын

@@GiovanniTancrediChan compare: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdd4ised0M3To4U.html

@lohphat 3 жыл бұрын

Did anyone not notice this is not in a hall but a small studio? The acoustics are completely different.

@davidwray9050 3 жыл бұрын

A breath of fresh air in this interpretation and lightness of playing.

@johannsebastianbach3411 4 жыл бұрын

My only problem is that sometimes the trills that he adds make the piece sound......ticklish. That's not the feeling I was going for when I wrote it :D But I love how articulate his playing is.

@grinchmuc 4 жыл бұрын

Name checks out.

@manoelfernandez3461 4 жыл бұрын

Bach ¿Are you high?

@oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288 4 жыл бұрын

Go home, Bach, you're dead.

@davidkennedy4845 3 жыл бұрын

@@oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288 Bach is alive as long as we have the capacity to play music. The God given talent of J.S. Bach shall live for ever.

@MsNay83 3 жыл бұрын

😂

@manliorovi7153 9 жыл бұрын

Se J.S.Bach potesse ascoltare questo brano cosi suonato e interpretato ritornerebbe sconvolto nella sua tomba! Si coglie un movente diverso da come il brano fu pensato e scritto! Un brano che è pietra miliare della letteratura organistica suonato con animo diverso e se mi è consentito cosi suonato più in un circo che in una cattedrale !!

@14reger 3 ай бұрын

Infatti è una clamorosa americanata. Ma c'è più di qualcuno a cui piace. A me personalmente no.

@kurtarmbruster 10 жыл бұрын

Flawless musicianship and interpretation--beyond superb!

@brownmullins 9 жыл бұрын

I admire this master; praying for his success and peace.

@robertnewman2850 7 жыл бұрын

marvellous !!! this is wonderful musicality. Bravo dear Sir. Bach, no less ! Wow !!!!!

@WillGardlcc1 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, such an incredible expression of what the pipe organ is. I'm sure Bach himself would stand and applaud this performance. Bravo!

@lynndepally 7 жыл бұрын

I love this guy wish I had his memory to play Bach so well. I also own 2 Rogers Organs 1 Classical and 1 Theater Organs I like them both. Hope He comes to Arkansas soon. thanks Cameron.

@suebasko3865 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed ths a lot. He gives a young feel to it.

@muserik 9 жыл бұрын

Purists stay away... Me? I absolutely LOVE IT!!!!

@boborgan8221 5 жыл бұрын

By any standards this is a remarkable and enjoyable take on the old warhorse: it is tricky enough without all the added clever stuff! Mercifully the thought police are unlikely to worry this man. Great stuff

@pianistgasser 3 жыл бұрын

The truth is: he is a damn good organist! His interpretation is his cup of tea, not yours! The way how he plays it is the way how he feels it, why not? If he likes it like this, he should play it like this! If you don’t like this, try to learn it yourself, so you can play it the way you like. I learned it amd it was really difficult so why should I learn it if I can not decide how to play it?

@mcfrdmn 10 жыл бұрын

Lovely musical performance !

@ProFriend 5 жыл бұрын

Puts me in mind of Walter Carlos - Switched on Bach. Anyone else remember epic recording? This is a bit more interesting for other reasons.

@ryangiraldi5722 4 жыл бұрын

I believe you meant _Wendy_ Carlos...

@inlovewithgoats1092 3 жыл бұрын

*wendy Carlos It seems a bit ridiculous to first praise her and then not even show that basic level of respect...

@LoganPowers-vy7rf 4 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY LOVEEE!!! WAY TO GO!!

@nikque1000 5 жыл бұрын

THIS ''CAMERON CARPENTER BOY'' IS REALLY SOMETING ELSE.. WOW!!!! BRAVO!!!!!!

@xy47402 7 жыл бұрын

Superb --- again. (Or still.) Thank You!

@AnthonyHunt77 11 жыл бұрын

This should be called "Pimp my Bach"! You either love his interpretation or you hate it. I think it's wonderful and refreshingly different but I still prefer something more traditional. This was purely done for showmanship

@brianbernstein3826 10 жыл бұрын

why are people disliking this? he's unreal

@Siasske 10 жыл бұрын

People who dislike the video are just experimented musician or experimented music lovers... they know that performance never did quality ! I didn't know this guy until today, and what he does isn't good... It's modern, very modern, but you can't play Bach like that. You can play arrangements of Bach music, but you have to mention it, not like him... =/

@brianbernstein3826 10 жыл бұрын

when you learn to write English properly then maybe you can criticize this master organ player...

@Siasske 10 жыл бұрын

***** I'm french, that's why i do some mistakes when i speak english. So please inquire you about who you want to insult ! But i don't care about my english because you understood what i wanted to say ! And last point : he is a modern artist, not a master ! Michel Chapuis, Marie-Claire Alain, Daniel Roth or Olivier Latry are organ masters, and i can list others ; but Cameron Carpenter is not. I respect his work, but I respect even more Bach and his music that none has the right to distort.

@brianbernstein3826 10 жыл бұрын

actually, I didn't understand your last response because it made no sense whatsoever. as for this comment... "he is a modern artist, not a master!" you do realize it is possible to be both those things, don't you? the word modern isn't bad just because you say so...

@JonasClark 10 жыл бұрын

***** The issue, though, is that we don't really know exactly how Bach performed his work, do we? Which hands went where, how it was set-up? In my opinion, Bach would be very unhappy if performers several hundred years later tried only to do what they believe he would do, and not make music, including old music, flow in slightly different ways.

@ccsteamer 6 жыл бұрын

Cameron is my idol. Very talent organist. Cool rockin organrebel ...

@Piper12056 11 жыл бұрын

Ya gotta love any musician that makes people think...and talk. Interesting registrations and interpretations to say the least. I don't know too much about him but he would make a great ambassador of the organ to young people.

@danalawson8416 7 жыл бұрын

I wish I could play the organ. I think it is my favorite instrument.

@shiningarmor2838 7 жыл бұрын

Jesse Lawson It's never too late to start

@danalawson8416 7 жыл бұрын

Cameron carpenter is the most and best organ player in the world. I like it when he plays Bach.

@letsgame6712 7 жыл бұрын

+Jesse Lawson Bach would jump into his grave if he watches what CC do to his music

@bigguns1952 4 жыл бұрын

As Virgil fox once said in his Wannamaker organ at the great mall interview on Fox TV , playing the organ takes many hands, feet, & many brains. Having played organ, I believe it. It is an incredible king of instrument that requires a king to play it right. Sadly, I don't........but I tried, lol !

@bigguns1952 4 жыл бұрын

Whoops. Virgil does not own the 15 story wannamaker organ withe the 44.000 pipes. I meant to say. Meant to say in the Wann.....

@ccsteamer 9 жыл бұрын

Awesome...Cameron Carpenter ....Bach's son.

@dustoff85 7 жыл бұрын

CC is absolutely Amazing

@ok69severin 11 жыл бұрын

Amazing ... thanks for upload!

@diadorimsaviola4075 4 ай бұрын

Great Cameron

@Highinsight7 9 жыл бұрын

(I have such MIXED emotions with this young man...) BUT I"m STILL a HUGE FAN... NO matter what I may say!

@Offshoreorganbuilder 11 жыл бұрын

Remarkable!

@VONHIMMELBACH 11 жыл бұрын

God I love it! So unorthodox.

@debattol 5 жыл бұрын

Astounding

@sgamesyt7188 5 жыл бұрын

I have not seen so much hate in a comment box, even with this kind of content, which normally has a very calm and relaxed viewers. I can't believe that such "magnificent" musicians have the nerve to criticize a style only because they don't like it. I'm no musician, but I consider myself an artist, and this guy have art in him. Art varies in all of us, and all of us has his unique style. Denying it only denote prejudices. What a pitty...

@rh7189 12 жыл бұрын

Excellent}}}}}}}}}}}

@bennythetree1221 8 жыл бұрын

Papa bless. h3h3 brought me here. Tbh. This is actually pretty rad. Kudos to you Carpenter. Best of luck. I still cringe at the promo vid though. But still, can't deny the fact you have talent.

@hartmanout150 Жыл бұрын

Het orgel klinkt nogal ielig, voor de rest is het uiteraard geniaal wat hier gebeurt !

@kebabroyal5682 5 жыл бұрын

Ornementation and phrasing are A+, and perfectly in style. Superior performance. I don't always agree with what he does generally, but this time he nailed it.

@gerwinhoekstra 12 жыл бұрын

I totally agree!

@LorinTone 5 жыл бұрын

The imperfections can easily be laid to rest as soon as anyone else does it better.

@skipalitevandango 11 жыл бұрын

He's playing this all from memory.

@garywilkins3510 10 жыл бұрын

the greatest

@josephgraif2588 5 жыл бұрын

virgil was the greatest.

@jaapweel1 10 жыл бұрын

Quit whining that he doesn't play it in the style you like if there's already plenty of recordings in that style. I, for one, think this is a very clear interpretation, where you can hear all the notes just as they're written, which is the first prerequisite when it comes to complex polyphonic baroque music like this. If, on top of that, a performer manages to make it more musically interesting without sacrificing that clarity, that's great, and there's no need for everybody to try to do that in the exact same way.

@aston0708 12 жыл бұрын

not sure about the gems on the shoes but Christ who the hell is that guy,?, man has he mastered that instument,,,,unbelievable technique

@tambrosia 3 жыл бұрын

BRAVO Cameron Carpenter, a native PA young man with so much talent. Keep up the great work PA is proud of You

@davidwray9050 5 ай бұрын

This trips along. A depth of interpritation of this Bach piece. Possibly a tad fast, but I thibk it adds to the interpritation.

@ccsteamer 11 жыл бұрын

I think this is new way to play organ and it sound very good.

@adrianosarkowicz9478 6 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, fantastic.

@WhiteMaskPianist 10 жыл бұрын

Damn good! :)

@KonopKg 10 жыл бұрын

He is truly genius

@drawstop1 12 жыл бұрын

If you do not like the way C.C. play then you do not have to listen. I am miles away from his standard and I tend to play as all you purists would like, but I admire his ability and his guts in playing in his own style. Keep up the good work C.C. And I like the electronic organ. Incidentally - how many of you heard Bach play and are justified in criticising someone far better than you?

@ldoom8827 10 жыл бұрын

I am a fun of this organist. Genius

@jorgezacharias4447 3 ай бұрын

Congratulations! The organ sounds a computer, and de organist performes beautifully like a IA!

@pino1968roma 10 жыл бұрын

MAGLIFIC

@Seifer_42 10 жыл бұрын

He can do whatever the hell he wants when he can play like that.

@nessundorma6720 6 жыл бұрын

This guy has a Brain that works faster than any computer- GENIUS!

@ivancarlson953 4 жыл бұрын

He knows which buttons to push.

@ryanlibertine 11 жыл бұрын

speechless...

@renatasurmacz8798 4 жыл бұрын

Wspaniałe!!!! 😊😊😊😊

@SuperBabel2 11 жыл бұрын

Superbe et époustouflant !!! D.BABEL

@WeeGrahamsaccount 8 жыл бұрын

An entertaining performance.

@XAdamX 6 жыл бұрын

To say anything 'bad' about such an amazing performance is the sign of a small brain. Small brains need a 'type-writer' style organist to 'enjoy' Bach. Most people are too stupid to comprehend a Fugue, never mind a Bach fugue played with this sort of speed and ingenuity. Never mind that he plays all Bach by memory. I mean, come on. That alone is amazing.

@ladomi7962 8 жыл бұрын

Hallucinant!

@StDonatusOrganum 11 жыл бұрын

Thanks for Uploading!!!!

@MultiOrganGrinder 11 жыл бұрын

by far my favorite version!go cameron!

@1954mikel 9 жыл бұрын

nunca se conoció en toda la historia un organista tan virtuoso como él.

@xaviergb1509 8 жыл бұрын

Pude escuchar al joven Gert van Hoef y ya me dirá!

@1954mikel 8 жыл бұрын

Gert van Hoef toca bien, pero Cameron es como Paganini, las cosas que hace con el órgano no las hace nadie.

@fily95vn 10 жыл бұрын

YES

@waldenhouse 10 жыл бұрын

What an incredible performance! I agree with the comments regarding the instrument and it's better to play on an organ equal to that of its day. CAMERON is a virtuoso wizard, and I bet he's glad he practiced his scales and arpeggios! Wonderful.

@redeemer665 10 жыл бұрын

For people complaining about this interpretation being too fast, this tempo is only a bit faster than the natural tempo also used by Bach. Bach wasn't a showman (going all in with dramatic dynamics and rubato tempo), but rather a musicologist, unparalleled composer and highly skilled and technical keyboard player. It's true that Carpenter plays very staccato, a style which is crucial when playing in big cathedrals at these speeds. In smaller spaces like this one, you can play with less staccato though it helps you a lot in keeping the sound clear.

@josephgraif2588 5 жыл бұрын

bach was a "rock star" and begged to play the "d minor" at his concerts. how do you know he wasn't a "showman"?

@Gottenhimfella 4 жыл бұрын

Good point about the need for staccato in large spaces when playing fast tempi. Which is really difficult if you want to also articulate intelligently, which mostly Carpenter does, although not always (to my ear) tastefully. I would prefer a bit more of Bach's musical sensibility and a bit less of Carpenter's.

@Gottenhimfella 4 жыл бұрын

@@josephgraif2588 JSB didn't hold"concerts", and he may have grovelled to royalty, but that was the survival imperative at work. There's no record of him ever playing BWV565, if that's what you're referring to (he wrote countless works in D minor), and it's not certain he even wrote it. He was not particularly popular in his day, except among cognoscenti, only becoming widely known long after his death. Several of his sons were more highly regarded as composers than he was, in the contemporary world of music: he was thought a bit of a fuddy-duddy.

@josephgraif2588 4 жыл бұрын

@@Gottenhimfella I believe you are wrong about that. Bach was a well-known concert organist in his day.

@Gottenhimfella 4 жыл бұрын

@@josephgraif2588 He took part in performances as part of his duties. He was not given part of the takings, in the rare cases where there were any, so the "rock star" analogy is entirely misleading, and the word "concerts" is inapplicable.

@scottr.1375 7 жыл бұрын

Those that can, do. Those that can't criticize on Facebook..... The guy can play and he seems to bring joy to a lot of people's ears. Perfect? Maybe not. Traditional? Nope. But he and other non traditionalists keep this instrument from being a museum piece enjoyed by just a select few.

@organboi Жыл бұрын

Utter BS. Organ performances are everywhere. You just didn't know about them. Go to some. They are not for the "select few."

@Zula_The_Squid 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much for this stunning recording! The way you played it with all the carefully added extra ornamentation makes this so refreshing.

@richard7crowley 7 жыл бұрын

An excellent example of why organs are installed in (and voice for) large spaces where the room itself is the "sounding board" of the instrument. An unusually "dry" recording of an organ (whether pipe or electric). Like listening to a trumpet in a phone booth.

@valdemarevaldemare 10 жыл бұрын

Super :)

@fabiobruzzese8386 2 жыл бұрын

Ridicolous! A very fast "sveltina musicale"... Also Bach would say "Bleahhh!!!"

@14reger 3 ай бұрын

He would say "leave my music alone"!!!!!

@c0string 12 жыл бұрын

Agreed!!!

@douglasbruce3501 8 жыл бұрын

Makes me want to shout MILIGGI...fantastic, super, sublime, MILIGGI MILIGGI.... wonderful, CAMCARP's the best - ,MILIGGI, MILIGGI, MILIGGI...

@Mark_Dyer1 3 жыл бұрын

Talk about 'relentless'!

@jojojorisjhjosef 6 жыл бұрын

This is the first comment section I've seen people hate this guy for a genuine reason, not because someone watched the h3h3 vid.

@j.marin.8150 9 жыл бұрын

I like

@pino1968roma 10 жыл бұрын

SPLENDIDO !!!!!!

@cresta14 11 жыл бұрын

As usual....he wakes up Bach...! Awesome

@robertjentges3544 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏merci

@Chrismacleod777 10 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! I think Bach would have loved this performance! :-)

@mirabilis 10 жыл бұрын

just the fact that he has memorized that song.

@morphiac200iq8 10 жыл бұрын

I play the piano and the organ, memorizing songs takes almost no effort. If I can play it, I remember it. I'm sure it's the same for him

@mirabilis 10 жыл бұрын

Benjamin W. For most people it would take great effort.

@brianbernstein3826 10 жыл бұрын

Benjamin W. true memorization of a polyphonic piece requires being able to sing each voice beginning to end... it's not necessary to play it from memory obviously, but if you put in this extra work it really pays off

@Offshoreorganbuilder 10 жыл бұрын

Benjamin W. Memorizing a piece of music is difficult if not impossible for the majority of organists. To memorize that particular piece is no easy matter.

@morphiac200iq8 10 жыл бұрын

Offshoreorganbuilder I know quite a few people like myself to whom memorizing a piece comes hand in hand with being able to play a piece. I guess we are just lucky to have good muscle memory. Often times I'll make a mistake in the middle of a long piece, have to stop, and have no idea where I just was or where to start from if I don't have the music in front of me.

@TJMalana 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen an organist play one manual and stretch their thumbs towards the manual below it. That’s so amazing!! 😱😍

@dionisiovelasco7774 4 күн бұрын

IMPRESIONANTE

@tomschaffner9704 2 жыл бұрын

What’s sad. I can almost follow him.🎶🎶

@SuperBabel2 11 жыл бұрын

Une articulation absolument remarquable, je suis "soufflé" ce que j'appelle un jeu aéré, Bravo ! D.BABEL

@parkingdana3812 5 жыл бұрын

Rien à retenir , trop rapide pas d'âme ...c'est une honte!

@peteacher52 12 жыл бұрын

OMG!! Some folk like the sound of their own voices, in print as it were! As was Liberace to the piano, so is Nigel Kennedy to the violin and Cameron Carpenter to the organ. Let's celebrate and appreciate the different interpretations and flamboyant presentations rather than nit pick over unimportant trivia. Anything I might not particularly like about Cam's playing here doesn't matter a sausage because he has more music in his dexter pinkie than I have in my whole body, so, good on him!

@chester6343 3 ай бұрын

Damn this is intense

@明天twadoy 5 жыл бұрын

Quelle brillance ! Plus que les chaussures ! C' est donc un compliment pour ces 4 membres : Des pieds et des mains!

@marcauger1870 6 жыл бұрын

He is to classical music what jazz is to popular music!

@lucienfournier8221 6 жыл бұрын

Epic end

@robmerci 10 жыл бұрын

There is no set way to play a piece of music - even Bach. Carpenter is different from Fox who was different from Landowska who was different from Clara Schumann. Carpenter is more of a showman at this stage of his career - he is in his grans period so to say. It's likely that Bach (who loved such contests) would enjoy an organ duel with this guy. It goes without saying that Carpenter will be playing much differently at fifty-eight than he is now at thirty-three. In any case, this young man does possess a conscientious artist's temperament, and he will become memorable. Let him live and grow, and enjoy him throughout.

@josephgraif2588 5 жыл бұрын

might you explain why he "will be playing much differently at fifty-eight"? what is special about that age and how will his playing change?

@arthurserino2254 5 жыл бұрын

Virgil Fox was a masterful player, but also a flamboyant fop who often changed note values on the fly. Bach was perfect; don't fuck with perfection!

@Jason-ib4fk 5 жыл бұрын

@@arthurserino2254 How old are you? You heard Bach play? Wow!

@arthurserino2254 5 жыл бұрын

@@Jason-ib4fk Old enough to know that acting like a moron doesn't help your argument.

@selftrue670 5 жыл бұрын

@@arthurserino2254 Amen. Go fuck with some pop song sung by some diva-of-the-day. If you want to write a cadenza, go ahead. but leave the original in tact.