4 2K Erg Test Strategies

4 2K Erg Test Strategies | 2k erg prep

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Hello KZfaqrs! Today I go over some strategies that some people deploy on their 2k test or race. Which one do you prefer? It can be really hard to stik to any of them while in the middle of a rowing machine workout but if you can use one and stick to it confidently or maybe even combine one or two then you could smash your PBs!
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@tomperry4798 3 жыл бұрын

I tried it the other day managed 8 min 29 rowing with one leg as I can't wear my prosthetic whilst rowing

@CameronBuchan 3 жыл бұрын

That's great work!

@Junior3z Жыл бұрын

Damn! That is utterly fantastic. 💪 Lots of respect from this very heavy rower in Norway.

@shadowjulien5 4 жыл бұрын

The way that I've always done really well on 2ks, is to come out pretty quick for the first 500, slowly hang on to something sustainable until the last 500 and finish off strong. So for my 2k pb my 500's were 130,132,133,130. I think this is particularly better for power athletes who can have a strong start with out it impacting the rest of their piece and mentally gives them breathing room for the middle 1000 where youre basically just trying to be as efficient as possible conserving energy for a big sprint at the end. It's kind of a mix of the positive and negative I guess lol

@danielwatson2068 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, my best 2k have also come from this strategy

@rorybuckley3414 3 жыл бұрын

I do that aswell i feel its the best strategy

@anthonyward5329 4 жыл бұрын

The most common strategy on the water by far is fastest first 500, second fastest last 500 with second and third a little slower. Even “level pace” crews such as the Kiwi pair were doing this strategy.

@mikescott3876 4 жыл бұрын

Really like the addition of "the pen and paper". Makes everything a lot easier to understand. Thanks.

@Tarsys 4 жыл бұрын

I also think it is very important that you really must have a realistic endtime before you start so you know what splits you have to have.

@CameronBuchan 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely! You need to know what you're capable of. Another reason why doing a few 2ks can help! #yamsquad

@edwardsmith7739 4 жыл бұрын

My current plan is to reach 1K at 1 second below my target split, it gives me a confidence boost to know I've got a little wiggle room for the last 1K and I'll still hit my target. Nothing hurts worse than when you miss your target by 2-3 seconds.

@jamesdean4643 4 жыл бұрын

Nice vid Cam ! In fact i think i should mo 2ks, because i'm use to do 3 2ks during the year and before each of them i'm making a very very big deal of it. So i think that doing more 2ks is going to help improve, thanks for the advice !

@alanrobinson8518 4 жыл бұрын

Very good stuff on the big scary test that frightens everybody and that we all dread.

@jameswalker2998 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this. Really useful and great way of presenting the information 👍#yamsquad

@GriffinReiner1 4 жыл бұрын

massive scores comin up

@vickyb168 Жыл бұрын

great advice!! currently in the summer after my novice year trying to break that 8minute mark so i can make cutoffs eventually - i am hopefully going to start doing more 2ks so they feel less intimidating and more like a challenge💪

@CameronBuchan Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a plan! Enjoy!

@seanclarke7248 2 жыл бұрын

Recently got my 2k from 7.40 to 7.04 in 4 months (still not certain how!) This video really helped.

@CameronBuchan 2 жыл бұрын

Let's goooooo!! Good job!

@kacken1966 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, a lot of good tips. Iam used to loose breath at 800😅 the middle 1000 is the key and most challenge. I was in Paris, score was 6.51 , master, but not nice. Followed your race from the stands.

@CameronBuchan 4 жыл бұрын

The middle 1000 can definitely be a mine field. If the plan is right though, it shouldn't be too difficult! Paris was an amazing event! #yamsquad

@MasterApprentist 3 жыл бұрын

So I like to do the first 300 sub 5 seconds of aimed average split at a 32 33 rate then next 1500 up the rate to 36 but hold aimed split final 200 go balls to the wall and crank the rate up to 45 doing half strokes till the bitter end.

@stevedavis4692 2 жыл бұрын

thank you Cameron for the video. I am new to rowing and I think I've been inadvertently doing the "fly and die" method by accident. I am going out to row here in about an hour and I will try to row with a better pace and see if I get a better result.

@CameronBuchan 2 жыл бұрын

Nice one! Yes pacing can be very important in a 2k. Good luck!

@mariakr681 4 жыл бұрын

Strong start, get to pace within 45 secs, sustain pace till 900. At 900, ask yourself if you can accelerate a bit, sustain pace if you can’t. 400m means sprint, 180m means everything OUT

@Mexi257 4 жыл бұрын

I always set myself a target average pace, try to get ahead of it in the first 500m. I can then maintain the target average for 1 km or go slightly faster if feeling good (sometimes 500m maintain, 500m slightly faster). Last 500 mins is maintain until I feel I can give everything.

@CameronBuchan 4 жыл бұрын

A little bit of the positive split to start. Always comforting to have there cusion there, especially if you're still feeling good! #yamsquad

@thedivinezero4117 2 жыл бұрын

"are you a power athlete or an endurance athlete" uhhhh *eats more gummy worms*

@burns46824 2 жыл бұрын

I think my best 2K times have been, per 500m: FASTEST, slow, slower, SECOND FASTEST. It isn't any of these strategies, I guess, lol! If I had to choose one: negative split.

@jackb4488 4 жыл бұрын

Any marathon training plans 🤞🏻💪🏻👍🏻

@dylandrew7521 2 жыл бұрын

My personal favorite is where I fly and die but I don’t die u til the last 500. I just did one two days ago and my splits were 1:43, 1:44, 1:45, then a 1:50 (sophmore in high school btw)

@CameronBuchan 2 жыл бұрын

That's a bold strategy!

@chrispower86 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this Cam, informative as always. I tend to be more of a positive splitter/fly and die 😂. Go out far too fast usually!! This video has helped me to realise I am probably more endurance suited so next 2k trial I want to give the even split 2k a try. Out of interest what are your thoughts on the accuracy of Paul’s Law? My 2k Pb is 6:24 but using my 10k Pb, the law suggests that my 2k should be 6.14. Seems a big discrepancy to me but wondered if you have seen or experienced similar discrepancies based on whether people are more power based or endurance based? Cheers

@jamesdean4643 4 жыл бұрын

From my experience, Paul's Lw is wrong when : 1. your not a balanced athlete, which most of the peoples aren't 2. your pbs where done of two differents points of the year where the form wasn't equal

@CameronBuchan 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris! The start of the 2k is always so easy to go out too hard! 😂 With things like Paul's law it doesn't really take everything or everybody into account so you're going to have people at either end of the scale so I wouldn't worry if you don't abide by it. Generally it depends what type of athlete you are, power or endurance and then that'll usually mean you're either further off of the short stuff or the long stuff! It does provide good targets though! #yamsquad

@chrispower86 4 жыл бұрын

Cameron Buchan Thanks for the really useful reply, very much appreciated. It is tough sometimes to really understand these projected times and how they’re calculated especially when they look to be bang on for some pieces but way off for others. Certainly think I fail in to the more endurance side of things which could explain the results I had as well as some of my performances. Like you say though, provides some good targets to aim for and in all will help me to become a more balanced rower I suppose. Thanks again 👍🏻

@jefflangdon3540 10 ай бұрын

I’ll start fast taper off in the 3rd 500 and then push the last.

@CameronBuchan 10 ай бұрын

3rd 500 fade usually suggests too fast pace in the first 1k

@ipp9691 3 жыл бұрын

How often should we do 2ks? Good video Cam, like always 😉👍

@CameronBuchan 3 жыл бұрын

I think there is quite an individual answer for everyone. It. An depend on level of athlete, amount of training around the 2ks. Intensity of the 2ks themselves. On the GB squad we would only do a couple a year. Last season I did 7 or 8!

@ipp9691 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronBuchan Thanks Cameron! 💪 #yamsquad

@mishatsarevsky9656 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronBuchan are you still on the GB team?

@CameronBuchan 3 жыл бұрын

@@mishatsarevsky9656 no, have not been since 2017

@mishatsarevsky9656 3 жыл бұрын

@@CameronBuchandude, you're such a good rower shame that you wont go to the Olympics

@rathernotsay1093 9 ай бұрын

also rip norm macdonald . wow what a legend

@charlesdfrench 10 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks. Do these strategies work with a 500m row as well?

@CameronBuchan 10 ай бұрын

Thanks! No unfortunately not really. The 500m is "too short" for almost anything but the fly and die approach! Everyone is different though!

@charlesdfrench 10 ай бұрын

thanks for the quick response, i thought that might be the case, unfortunately I'm dying at the 300m mark!.@@CameronBuchan

@CameronBuchan 10 ай бұрын

@@charlesdfrench only 200 to hold on!

@benrodgers5924 4 жыл бұрын

Hate it when you blow your yam in the first 1k! Hahaha

@DF-cc5im 4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen this 2K strategy from ex GB rower Cam Nichols? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJuPZ9ih1s69lYU.html

@CameronBuchan 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I've seen it! A lot of crossover there! #yamsquad

@rathernotsay1093 9 ай бұрын

as someone who rowed before youtube howtos proliferated , rowing was overwrought enough during the rowingillustrated era

@jk4298 4 жыл бұрын

What do you think about when you 2k? I think I have a pretty bad mental block for 2ks. I’m trying to fix it

@CameronBuchan 4 жыл бұрын

I try not to think about to much really, just sticking to my race plan. I speak about mental work in today's episode! #yamsquad

@TEHKERS 3 жыл бұрын

when you hit a 5 second PR everytime you fly and die and cam says it does work :(. 6:45.0 2k 16 yr

@CameronBuchan 3 жыл бұрын

If you PB are you really flying and dying?

@maviaelcorreia1965 6 ай бұрын

Muita teoria...Mais na Prática é diferente e Individual.

@LcHR21212 Жыл бұрын

going to try a negative split, always done a more positive split (trying to maintain an even split). hopefully this works

@CameronBuchan Жыл бұрын

Just another strategy to help, might not be the key to your extra speed!

@LcHR21212 Жыл бұрын

no harm in giving it a try, we'll see how it goes

@CameronBuchan Жыл бұрын

@Lachlan Rawson good luck! Let us know how you get on

@enayatkapadia1157 4 жыл бұрын

When’s the 2k?

@jamesdean4643 4 жыл бұрын

2 days ago he said in the next 14 days

@euan1234 2 жыл бұрын

I'm really no expert on this, but one thing which confuses me - with the Negative Split or Even - you are required to hit either your fastest or equal-fastest moments towards the end of the race. That is, when your muscles are tired and you are breathing hard. Just from a logical point of view, I always thought it would be easiest to do the 'hardest work' when your muscles and lungs are freshest. Then when you are getting fatigued towards the end, you have the luxury of dialling back and maintaining a slower pace (which is obviously still difficult after the earlier work). Therefore the Positive Split makes most sense to me, although I'm not claiming to be good at it - just on paper

@CameronBuchan 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried both options? On paper yes it does sound easier to positive split as you described. The feeling of doing the positive split though is horrible and needs a supreme amount of fitness to not completely fall off of the pace if you go too hard to begin with

@euan1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@CameronBuchan you are totally correct, and also the reason why almost every elite athlete (rowing / running / cycling etc) will usually have a 'sprint finish' - it just works, regardless of logic or on-paper thinking. I can only think of Steve Prefontaine and maybe Liz McColgan, who were proper front-runners and attacking early on during races. I think you said it right - trying different methods, getting experience, and knowing what works and what to aim for. Thanks!

@CameronBuchan 2 жыл бұрын

@@euan1234 ollie ziedler usually does a fast first 500 too!

@euan1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@CameronBuchan ah yes, you are correct. Still hopeful that one day we will see the Ziedler vs Van Dorp race us indoor enthusiasts have been waiting for!

@tobyshanahan374 3 жыл бұрын

Those are all bad , what you should do is go like 5 or 10 lower than your 1k split in the first 500, then the middle 1k you just hold a steady but very fast split , then last 500, give it your all

@CameronBuchan 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting strategy. If that works for you that's great!