Camp Stove Battle - Which stove is best? - MSR Pocket Rocket 2 v Jetboil Minimo v Soto Windmaster
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4 жыл бұрынCamp Stove Battle - Which stove is best? - MSR Pocket Rocket 2 v Jetboil Minimo v Soto Windmaster
The search continues for the perfect backpacking stove. In this video we take a look at the MSR pocket rocket 2, the Jetboil Minimo & the Soto Windmaster. These are very popular gas stoves which are great for camp stove cooking on the trial. I've done several camp stove reviews in my time and everyone always like to comment on which is better. So please comment below and let me know what you use to boil your water and make your camp stove meals. It would be great to here from you.
Camping Stove Meals. Cooking a full English breakfast with a Jetboil Minimo
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@NelsonClick 4 жыл бұрын
You know one thing about this channel that nobody ever comments on? Camera angles. He's switching them up so we don't get bored. Keep in mind every camera angle involves him stopping, resetting the camera, focus and then picking up seamlessly where he left off. That takes concentration. So when we see him heading far off into the sunset what we don't see is him stopping, backtracking what he just traversed and retrieve the camera. I like the one where we saw him climbing a fence. Because then he had to climb it again to retrieve the camera then climb it a third time to head forward. I am too lazy to do that. No wonder he wants that beer. LOL
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nelson. I'm glad you appreciate the time that goes into making these films. I am a firm believer of you get out what you put in. Thanks for watching
@aceventura1196 4 жыл бұрын
I notice a lot of stuff like this and I really appreciate it too. full-on brit lad. keep camping man.
@jimmylincoln4082 3 жыл бұрын
NelsonClick ......I always thought this channel is better than any program on tv , interesting, professional and inspiring, I never even thought about the camera angles until you said it .
@dorothyb. 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he s very good and that's why his following increasing. that and the fact that he is clearly passionate about the thing he is doing. he infuses a love of outdoors and camping and he's genuinely interested in what he is exploring...love it.
@tomekkruk6147 3 жыл бұрын
These are the things people usually tend not to notice, but it makes the video so much more enjoyable to watch.
@PaulMaloney 4 жыл бұрын
My wife just asked what I was doing. Watching a KZfaq video about water boiling. Can we go outside yet?
@GypsyGirl317 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can go camping in your garden! 👍🏾🤗🏕️
@pluggothesluggo5509 3 жыл бұрын
@@GypsyGirl317 is this some type of joke condo dwellers don't understand
@GypsyGirl317 3 жыл бұрын
@@pluggothesluggo5509 not a joke. ❤️ Some of us have a section of land around our homes. 🏘 Great question because I live in New Zealand, and I often forget that many people around the world dwell in apartments or condominiums etc 🤦🏻♀️ I have a very small section by NZ standards, but I can still pitch a small tent in the garden as well. 😊
@benhikescamps 4 жыл бұрын
Great comprehensive comparison Paul. I may dust of my MSR PR2 after watching this. This stove is very noisy but small and powerful - which I like. Thanks for taking the time to focus in on the fine details of the stoves. ATB - Ben
@BourneOutside 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for conducting this test. I now can make a good purchasing decision. Lovely stuff!!!
@kapeeladevi3774 3 жыл бұрын
This is so great to have! The 3 that seem to always be compared to one another, thanks for this!!
@christinejones2205 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Going to buy a stove when lockdown over, so this video was well-timed!
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos. Thanks for watching
@daviddjwheeler9296 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the video i was looking for! Thank you! I think im sold on the Soto Windmaster to start off 👍
@dcba3210 4 жыл бұрын
Am I 1st. Wow! Those who reading my comments, I wish you and your family members to have a wonderful days ahead. Much love from Himalayas, Everest region. Do stay connected. ❤🤙🤙
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
You win a thumbs up Simon. Thanks for watching mate. Which stove do you use?
@dcba3210 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner I haven't used any but I am planning to get one for my Himalayan hikes here in Everest region. Regards 🙏
@haroldellis9721 4 жыл бұрын
Well played.
@dcba3210 4 жыл бұрын
@@haroldellis9721 Thanks Ellis. Do stay connected. Much Love 🙏❤
@matthewcunningham2399 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial Paul as usual. Your advice is really appreciated as always! Thank you 👍
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos. Thanks for watching
@robertgullickson8758 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comparison. I use a pocket rocket with a home made wind shield. I appreciate your experienced advice.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@paulc9516 4 жыл бұрын
Really useful. Thanks so much. I have the MSR PR, so was pleased it went well!
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@tosspot1305 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful and very informative vid. Based on this I've decided to get a pocket rocket 2. Thanks very much!
@aquaish 4 жыл бұрын
Boom tingz. Keep em' coming bud. Gives us something to look forward to until we're allowed out on the hills again.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy. Thanks for watching as always.
@welshboyoo715 4 жыл бұрын
What a great review Paul, I like my MSR windburner which I have had for about 5 years now, but still take out my pocket rocket on occasions. Depends on what you want a stove to do and the situation you are using it I guess. Thank you Paul for sharing your time and knowledge, take care of you and yours.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree, as with most camp gear, there's not one perfect item. Each have their pros and cons. I'm lucky to have several stoves so I can take the one that best suits what I'm going to cook. Thanks for watching.
@ronaldrose7593 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Paul, thank you for sharing another one of your fine videos. I've the MSR pocket rocket for a year now. I really enjoy it. It has not failed me yet. As a backup, I have a Solo alcohol stove. Be safe out there Paul. 🤗
@spellerlittlewing 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks great video no loud music just you and the product
@darthonutube 3 жыл бұрын
Great test! Did the exact same test - on my CampingGaz stove (C206) - which is over 30 years old! Despite that, and it having been used only once in the last 20 years, the gas hasn’t leaked! Only had my kitchen pan, with very heavy base, so this took longer to heat than yours - nearly 6 minutes to boil 300ml with the lid on. I then weighed it (with some jewellers scales) and it only used 5 grammes of gas - 1 gramme per minute, result!!! :-)
@glaring_tsar5981 4 жыл бұрын
I want to go camping in the forest but I didn't know the basics of camping so I have been watching your videos for a few days and they have been very helpful you are so cool
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos. Thanks for watching
@__Yannick__ Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This was very helpful!
@bathcolin 4 жыл бұрын
Another good honest informative review Paul. Thanks.
@DUB2NR 3 жыл бұрын
I have the MSR Pocket Rocket 2, Snow Peak Giga, MSR Reactor, and MSR Dragonfly. I use all of them depending on where I’m going and what the environment is. I seem to use the Snow Peak and Pocket Rocket the most, at least until I’m in the snow, and then it’s Reactor. For testing my culinary skills in the backcountry, the Dragonfly is great being able to adjust down to a low simmer.
@lauradanner4073 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was looking for. Thank you.
@ricardoneto7789 4 жыл бұрын
Good informative video. There’s so many stoves out there. All have their pros and cons. Choices On which one to use greatly depends your environment,weather, weight you want to carry, how long you’re going, pack size, what you will be cooking pot size, etc. I like the way you explain and demonstrate the differences between each . Thanks for sharing and taking the effort on making these videos .👍👍👍
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Great point Rick. I do agree, as with most camp gear, there's not one perfect item. Each have their pros and cons. I'm lucky to have several stoves so I can take the one that best suits what I'm going to cook. Thanks for watching.
@maximusmister15 3 жыл бұрын
What a helpful video! Thanks !! 👍
@rodnewman6519 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review video Paul. Love my jet boil having used a hexmine stove for years previously. Boils even quicker if you put the lid on first!
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
That's great info. Thanks for sharing and for watching the video.
@TheNitschkeman66 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Great information!
@iainmc9226 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.. going to start mtb touring so great to see your videos as a newbie.. just can't wait to hit them trails after lockdown..
@garydoc1459 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. I'm new to the channel but now a great fan. You have got me to find my camping bug again after many years.
@andrewjames6248 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the MSR Pocketrocket 2 mini stove kit, very pleased with it, ideal for bikepacking, kayak camping. Stay safe
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@johngarroch 4 жыл бұрын
Very useful info Paul. I bike pack and bought the pocket rocket because it was small and light. I like the Jet boil and will probably buy this for when I go hiking. Thanks for keeping up your content and making it interesting.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers John. I think both are great stoves. Thanks for watching.
@markbewley4974 4 жыл бұрын
Great thorough review as always 👍 I have the jetboil sol with the original heat exchanger frying pan. This has a never let me down.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I've not tried that particular model but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@runningwithmarc 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, really helpful and insightful
@tommonaghan111 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul, especially the fuel efficiency details. I’ve experimented with loads of setups and because I don’t fry food and use dry food bags just requiring hot water I settled on a lightweight Pocket Rocket Deluxe (built in igniter and better wind shielding ) and a small kettle - which means I have water for dry food and a drink. I have the Minimo and I do like it, but too heavy in my quest to get to 10kg. Thanks for this great comparison.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree, as with most camp gear, there's not one perfect item. Each have their pros and cons. I'm lucky to have several stoves so I can take the one that best suits what I'm going to cook. Thanks for watching.
@baseoutdooreducation6977 3 жыл бұрын
Great little review Paul good hints and tips. Keep up the great work.
@jeffconley6366 3 жыл бұрын
Great reviews. Good job of identifying some of the best stoves. For the average hiker / camper.
@stevebaggaley28 4 жыл бұрын
That's the best review ya ever gonna get on those 3 products, well done Paul keep up the great work ✌️
@RichiesGreatOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Agree pretty epic review 💪
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. I think they all are great stoves. Thanks for watching.
@azclaimjumper 4 жыл бұрын
You have NO CREDABILITY WITH MEeee after this SALES PITCH. This video is BALONEY aka CLAPTRAP under the guise of an obvious Commerical to generate revenue for Paul. The Jetboil is a distance 3rd place competitor to the Soto Windmaster & the Pocket Rocket 2 in the real world in terms of efficiency, using less fuel to heat/boil water/meals, is lighter, easier to pack up & carry in a backpack. The Jetboil is just plain BULKY & HEAVY. Even more obvious is the "staged" pot falling off the Soto.
@RS.Outdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review Paul. Glad my trusty pocket rocket done well though. However might look at trying the Jetboil Minimo for next winter. Atb
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers ray. I think both are great stoves. Thanks for watching.
@steverichardson5817 4 жыл бұрын
Great informative vide kidda, I have several stoves but have owned a minimo for about two years and love it. TFS ATB Steve
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. Glad you liked it. I like it a lot. Easily my favourite gas stove. Thanks for watching
@akivanomad2167 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the MSR Bunsen Burner. Really good comparison! Love these gear tests. From some of your previous videos you've rated the Soto higher than the MSR PR. So it's nice to see you rate the MSR highly. It's my good old faithful stove.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@TheCheshireWanderer 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I'm just starting to get through your videos so expect a few questions 🤣 I've just ordered the MSR. Wish i seen this first.
@outbackdreamer6445 2 жыл бұрын
I have the MSR and its awesome. It packs perfectly inside my GSR Pinnacle Soloist with a small gas canister, stabiliser and lighter.
@grahamharkness5744 4 жыл бұрын
great clip, very informative and helpful.
@mamba8.24 3 жыл бұрын
Great all round review!
@boxcartwilly 4 жыл бұрын
Great video very useful thanks
@richardharrison5622 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting results, i use the pocket rocket and love it , totally agree with you, not great in wind but a shield sorts that, the jetboil looks a fantastic bit of kit though!
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Richard. I think both are great stoves. Thanks for watching.
@SirMintfelix 3 жыл бұрын
What is up my brother from South Korea 🇰🇷
@kpj5 4 жыл бұрын
Just used my mini mo today! Super stove for a day hike or overnight for 2. Love your reviews! Had the tent up all Easter too 😀
@RichiesGreatOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
The mini mo is perfect for these current condition 💪
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I like it a lot. Easily my favourite gas stove. Thanks for watching
@Yorkshiremadmick 4 жыл бұрын
Surprised at your Soto as you raved about it once upon a time. But a fairish review 👍🏻 Thanks 🙏🏻
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I still rave about it Michael. It's a great stove. I think when you actually put all of them together and measure times, fuel used and compare prices etc, you can get a few changes to the picture. I still love all of the stoves and would happily take either on a trip. Thanks for watching.
@tommorris1472 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always ! Cheers paul 👏
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos. Thanks for watching
@antonystarling 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic review . I am in the process of deciding which system to go with and this has helped tremendously thank you, Great narration and pace 👌
@GypsyGirl317 3 жыл бұрын
Tony I agree, and I am in the process of upgrading my 90s gear for a lighter, more streamlined kit ready for thru hiking here in New Zealand. This video was extremely informative and useful for my decision making on the stove I will choose. I was looking at the Jetboil minimo and the pocket rocket in the shop just yesterday!
@antonystarling 3 жыл бұрын
@@GypsyGirl317 High Gg, I now have the minimo and have been using it for a few months now. The ability to simmer, its 4.5 turns to full gives you incredible control. If you plan to cook say pasta or anything that needs a very gentle simmer the this is a must. I cannot recommend it more. It boils very fast and if you get it with the attachment so you can use a frying pan, makes a perfect breakfast fry up. Hope that helps 👌
@GypsyGirl317 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonystarling thank you that's very helpful. What is the weight like for multi day hiking?
@antonystarling 3 жыл бұрын
@@GypsyGirl317 very light it's compact, gas cannister has to be out side, but you all the other parts fit inside. And you can use the plastic cup part at the bottom to fit tea bags and sugar
@douglasalexander4348 3 жыл бұрын
Minimo has a regulator, the big shiny silver bit you can see, helps a lot when on low flame.
@DomGhost12 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading Paul. I’ve got the Jetboil Flash which I’ve used for 8 years now. The bigger size means it actually fits a gas canister inside the main body, so probably about the same size as Minimo and canister separately. I took it for two week long treks recently and it was great, big fan of the Jetboil systems. I haven’t used it much for frying pan style cooking though, mainly for boil in the bag stuff or just boiling water, so I’ll be interested to see how you get on with that.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I've not tried that particular model but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@douglasalexander4348 3 жыл бұрын
Flash is great for boiling water quickly, flame adjust is really full on or off with Piezo and heat indicator. Zip is similar but smaller/lighter no piezo or heat indicator. Minimo is bigger, better for two peoples food. The big advantage is it has a proper regulator so you can adjust flame down low and simmer. Cons are more expensive.
@teddvidler6830 4 жыл бұрын
A first view of one of your videos Paul. When you listed the stoves for your test I thought you said MightMO. Clean out my ears I guess. Appreciate your pleasant video. Oh and I have Pocket Rocket 2 and MightyMO plus others. Appreciate both.
@davidsidoli679 4 жыл бұрын
Hope your well paul,I'm going camping with my four legged friend soon---love+lite👍
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos. Thanks for watching
@mickspain330 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Paul, very informative, always like your way of presenting, its relaxing and easy to understand, thanks for sharing, and keep safe 👍
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mick. Glad you like the videos. Thanks for watching
@adrianwatkins9629 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant indepth stove comparison Paul... three very good bits of kit.... I use a Coleman FyreStorm.. bit bulky and the cup has a flame hotspot but its brilliant in wind....
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
What matters is that your stoves work for you. Sounds like you have it sorted. Thanks for watching.
@tonyanddeb1012 3 жыл бұрын
I have the soto windmaster and love it.
@ltandkholbrook9555 3 жыл бұрын
What's the company's warranty for this stove?
@bosspig746 4 жыл бұрын
Great video cheers Paul g.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@bosspig746 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making some great vids.
@gordonbennett3393 4 жыл бұрын
Great thorough review
@grizzly_welsh_wanderermurp6582 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always mate!. As total novice and beginner to the wild camping scene I’ve purchased the Soto Amicus stove and cook set combo from cotswoldsoutdoors excellent values at £45 and I must say the stove is an excellent piece of kit and the pots that come with it are a bonus great value and starter kit for anyone I say.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I've not tried that particular model but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@JetboilStoves 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share this! I love watching these, they make me want to get on the other side and go camp! I very much appreciate the comparisons. I did notice that the MinoMo cup was attached when the burner was lit. I just want to point out that you don't want to do that in the future as doing so could trap the gas. That's not fun. Great video :)
@williamc9574 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, i don't get what you mean, the lid?
@JetboilStoves 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamc9574You're good to have the lid on. What I was referring to it the actual cooking cup.
@xTitsUpx 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for letting people know.
@romac9516 4 жыл бұрын
Don't really go camping but really enjoy these chill videos. Jetboil for me based on no experience whatsoever :)
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy. I like it a lot. Easily my favourite gas stove. Thanks for watching
@stevenclossick603 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid ..I think another massive point to any jetboil is the neoprene sleeve
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
That's great info Steven. It's a useful addition to help with insulation. Thanks for sharing and for watching the video.
@mariumrajah 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely video paul enjoyed watching mate
@Roger_Stenning 3 жыл бұрын
I currently use a JetBoil classic model; it contains the insulated mug, mug cap, stove base protective measuring cup, gas cartridge, stove top/cooker, and cartridge stand; if you don't use the plastic cap that fits over the top of the gas cartridge when you stow it into the mug, you can also stow a pan stand for the cooker to let you use pans, etc. I've found it to be heavy, yes, but it all packs away into one reasonably tight fairly safe, package, which I find very handy, organisationally speaking. It also fits into one of the rocket pouches on my Berghaus Vulcan bergan, which held the organisation in the field as well :) Good channel, informative and engaging :) Keep up the fun work :)
@Povasi 4 жыл бұрын
I really like your video's about gear reviews, tests, and camping! I subscribed to you :D
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos. Thanks for watching
@meepmeep1313 4 жыл бұрын
"measuring out 300ml, it's not an exact science" - it would be if you used the scales you just used to weigh the gas canister: 300ml of water = 300g
@Sk4lli 3 жыл бұрын
Well, only at 4° and the right air pressure though. But yeah, it's precise enough at least. ;-)
@GrumpyGrunt 4 жыл бұрын
Soto Windmaster and no regrets at all. It came with the 4-plex, but I also got the Titanium Tri-flex at the same time, which I much prefer for the field.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. I have the triflex too. I agree it's simpler to use. Thanks for watching
@coops1964 4 жыл бұрын
Buy cheap, buy twice. Get the Jetboil, I did and it’s brilliant.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I like it a lot. Easily my favourite gas stove. Thanks for watching
@ianafloat9250 3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough if you are comparing apples, but this is apples and pears since the Jetboil is a “system”, whereas the aether two are just burners. You’re paying £90 for a a few bits compared with the MSR. In that light, the Jetboil is a bit pricey.
@wallygoots 3 жыл бұрын
These seem to all be good. The Minimo is a system and not the smallest jetboil. The best thing about this video is that you show the actual kit you would use with the non-system stoves (wind screen, pots, utensils). Wind performance and complete cooking package ... the big picture.
@MegaLitefoot 2 жыл бұрын
Paul, that was a well-done presentation. My personal view is that compared to other gear (tent, pack, sleeping bag and pad), the stove is the least utilized piece of kit on the trail; often used a total of only 5-6 minutes per day. So if your stove is sufficiently lightweight and it works, then it's good enough. No need to lose sleep over this one.
@CrunchyTire Жыл бұрын
You're basing importance of gear based on how many minutes per day its used and not its function? OK
@grizzlydoutdoors5115 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I use a highlander blade mk 2. When I bought it it was juat over half the price of a jetboil. Me and my friend had a race. He had the jetboil (flash or zip, I can't remember) and we both had new Canisters. There was 2-3 seconds between them on full burner to boil 1liter. Keep up the great reviews. ATB
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I've not tried that particular model Dave. but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@jonstrongman3292 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Paul, I own the MSR Windmaster and the Pocketrocket2, if I take the PR2 out, I miss the WindM speed, but for pack size and weight the PR2 gets more time in my pack. The Windmaster isn’t great at simmering, however it’s never affected by winds.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I think both are great stoves. Thanks for watching.
@jamesrobert262 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video Paul, I use the pocket rocket 2, never let me down so far. Happy enough with the boil time. 😄
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@ExpeditionaryRanger 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. Thanks for the review. I believe it’s the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe that is designed to be highly Wind resistant, vs the PR2. Cheers
@RichiesGreatOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is. I use this and for Scotland it perfect lol
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I've not tried that particular model but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@excaliber32 4 жыл бұрын
Good review paul. I have the pocket rocket 2 and also have an msr windburner. Both great I'm sure I did a test with the windburner and it boiled 1 ltr in 2 min.
@jasonmaddison6148 4 жыл бұрын
good vid paul... a love minimo just an all in stove does everthing and packs alltogether.... my opnion tho buddy ....have good day🏴
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@stevesdaysoff2759 4 жыл бұрын
I use the MSR pocket rocket 2, MSR Wind pro 2 and the Alpkit Brewkit. I'm very pleased with them and would recommend any of the three. Thanks Steve 👍
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
What matters is that your stoves work for you. Sounds like you have it sorted. Thanks for watching.
@stevesdaysoff2759 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaulMessner Thank you Paul. I also have a BRS titanium stove that i use as a spare, but I'm going to try it as a main stove for when I do my next long hike trail. Thanks Steve 🏕👍I'm bored sick. Watching a lot of KZfaq lol. 👍
@clemenskohler9011 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. A comparing Table at the end with cooking time, gas consumption would be great. I made test like this in the last weeks and you need to be more careful when comparing: - aluminium pot can not be compared with titanium pot (different material properties) - opening valve position has big influence (the smaller the flame the better the efficiency) best would be to tune them all to the same consumption per minute - 300ml is very little. The more you take the lower is influence from mistakes (i started with snow/ melting compares equal to 100°C increase) I was reading flux ring increases efficiency by 15-20%. I am happy with MSR rocket pocket since many years for 2 person use.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a fair point and I agree that it's not a perfect comparison. But it is a comparison of the stoves I use and how I would use them. I would get a different result if I took a different pot or used my windshield etc. But this is how I use them for the most part. That's great info. Thanks for sharing and for watching the video.
@anth0ny111 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the cheap Chinese gas stove for 2 years now, never let me down once
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Anthony. What matters is that your stoves work for you. Sounds like you have it sorted. Thanks for watching.
@danielallmark9194 3 жыл бұрын
I have the coleman fyrestorm pcs and have recently purchased the soto windmaster which i will be testing this weekend
@Shadycoder 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review, I was unsure of the Jet Boil was worth the hefty price Tag it comes with, but considering with other systems one would have to buy an additional pot etc, I think then the Jet Boil becomes a little more compelling depending on what sort of pot you want.
@barrykimber 4 жыл бұрын
PocketRocket2 everytime for me, used one for years...cannot beat fuel economy vs weight/size, ; always amazes me how it can still get yet another boil out of a seemingly empty canister?? 👍👍
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@Andyb2379 4 жыл бұрын
I have & use a jet boil. Think I mentioned that mine is a jetboil zip mk1 version. There is no ignition switch on that version. So it’s great they have modified it & improved it. I’ve cooked everything you can think of on it. The frying pan opens a whole host of options. Nice review Paul
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Andy. I've not tried that particular model but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@bertman4 4 жыл бұрын
My go to is the Soto Amicus. Love it! For winter, I got the Kovea Spider. Works great! I also have an ancient JetBoil (gen1 but still working!), BRS 3000 stove (featherlite but pushover in any slight breeze), and MSR Whisperlite liquid gas stove (have not used in years).
@markcutler350 4 жыл бұрын
bertman4 I have the original pocket rocket which is great but does struggle to simmer. I bought the Soto Amicus which a) is better in wind b) simmers well and c) fits in my toaks 550 with gas cannister which ALSO both fit inside my Titan kettle. I second your view of the Amicus. Think Paul should have used the Amicus in the review as for size and weight of cookset I don't think it can be beaten.
@bertman4 4 жыл бұрын
@@markcutler350 Nice! Also Amicus is less expensive than the Windmaster and the pot stands are attached.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I've not tried that particular model but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@anndebaldo7381 3 жыл бұрын
Love the MSR pocket rocket 2!
@terrypatterson1481 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, thank you for your review on the on the cooking stoves. I think I'll be going for the MSR Pocket Rocket 2- At £28 pounds that would be within my budget. I know it may cost me a bit more for accessories but I would assume not that much more.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@mow-zr6ni 4 жыл бұрын
I use the Optimus crux. Large head, wide pot stand and pivoted head that allows it to be stored in dimple at the bottom of gas canister. It lightweight but probably not Uber light but used on many trips. Good build quality
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
What matters is that your stoves work for you. Sounds like you have it sorted. Thanks for watching.
@ertobi 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a Soto Amicus Piezo which I usually carry inside a 650ml Toaks Titanium mug along with a small canister and a small towel the way you do with the Pocket Rocket 2. Quite happy with that setup although I haven‘t had the chance yet to try it in strong wind. If I want to bring another pot along I also have a 1l pot which neatly fits everything else.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I've not tried that particular model but it sounds like it's working well for you. Thanks for watching.
@es3907 4 жыл бұрын
Grams dude !!
@tonybennett4922 4 жыл бұрын
Pocket Rocket 2 for me . Great review Paul . Certainly Pocket suffers in wind , I find myself sheltering when using it . For the money I picked it up with the MSR Titan Pot , great combination 👌
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@tonybennett4922 4 жыл бұрын
Paul Messner keep up the great work, love the content. Hopefully we’ll be on the trail soon 👌👏🇮🇪
@steves3760 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not here to critique your video. I think I would probably chose the small one but not the MSR. The ignition system and the size of the burner I would prefer. I have a camp chef. They sell a diffuser plate for pan frying that works really well. But I'm just suggesting my preference. Good video.
@ladakhsail1 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up a second hand jetboil about 10 yrs ago, performs faultlessly every day for morning brew on the covid one a day trail ;-)
@stephenpwilson1930 4 жыл бұрын
What a great idea Keri, I never thought to take a walk and make a brew. stay safe and enjoy your trailing.
@ladakhsail1 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been figuring local trails to keep hill fit and invariably getting to a log on a woodland boundary overlooking a field watching the sun rising..keep safe and keep fit.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@stasysliskevicius4040 Жыл бұрын
have soto, perfect canister stove, very versatile and actually works in wind quite well
@jasonclark5405 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! Got the pocket rocket... Bit quicker than the old hexi blocks :)
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jason. It's a great stove. I really like mine. Thanks for watching
@mclostinthewoods 3 жыл бұрын
All depends on your definition of "best," I guess. I haven't taken my PR2 out on the trail in 3 years. I switched to an alcohol stove a few years ago, and this past year made a switch again to wood burning stoves (Solo Lite and a Lixade Ti tower stove). Once I stopped being in a hurry, I found a new peace and joy on the trail. It's great to set time records boiling water, but once I let that go (with my alky stove), I discovered I didn't miss the speed. Taking time to set up camp at the end of the day, gather what little fuel I need, and get a small fire going in my stove to heat and cook with just caps off the day so nicely. And when I'm done cooking, I can throw on my gloves and dump the embers in the fire ring to get a bigger campfire going (or just keep enjoying my mini campfire). If you haven't given the Solo Lite (or a comparable gasifier stove) a shot, I highly recommend it. There are a ton of way more affordable options on Amazon ... lots of China specials ... and they all seem to work fine. The steel version of the Lixada Ti stove is under $30 US (about €22). The Ti version is only a little bit more. I've seen a bunch of folding wood stove videos you have made. If you haven't given the gasifer stove a shot, I highly recommend it.
@StevenNg 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, nice review, as a big fan of noodles and ramen, the best practice is not to break the noodles into smaller pieces, try to keep the original package of the noddle perhaps with a wide month pot would provide a better middle experience ☺️
@LA_Viking 3 жыл бұрын
I've been hiking/camping/canoeing/ad nauseam since the late 1960's. I've had or have now virtually every type of popular stove made and I have about 30 as I write this (some are duplicates). Modern canister stoves have come a long way since my first one by Bleuet (now Camping Gaz). Without a doubt the finest canister stove I have ever seen is the Snow Peak Titanium Gigapowerr Auto. A super light, super expensive mini-blowtorch is all you will ever need for a stove. With it's built in piezo igniter starting it is easy. Once you become familiar with it, you can even simmer with it especially if you add the optional windscreen. But the most miraculous feature of the Gigapower Titanium is that Snow Peak manufactured and sold repair kits for this stove. Regardless of where you are, you can keep your stove hissing with a few grams of spare parts. But Snow Peak has chosen to screw up royally by adhering to Herblock's Law (sp?) The very first hiking book I can ever remember reading was "The Complete Walker" by Colin Fletcher. That was my first exposure to the Law. Simply put Herblock's Law states that "If it's good, they'll quit making it!" (I wish I had one ounce of gold for every example I have ever seen of this!) I have been told that the Titanium Gigapower is still manufactured but is not imported into the US. Alternately I have been told the stove is out of production. iIn any case I can't get another one. And to add insult to injury, the buffoons at Snow Peak have quit selling the repair kits. In fact, Snow Peak has apparently stopped selling a lot of things and appear to be focusing on car camping and overlanding. So much for the best.
@philmcglass450 4 жыл бұрын
Missed out the Bargain Basement BRS-3000 - I have one, cost me less than £5, not very efficient but its lightweight and it works though I bought a tripod adapter that takes the cheapie butane twistlock canisters so am not too fussed about running costs at a £1 per 200ml can. Looking forwards to more of your kit tests. Hope you are keeping sane in these troubled times, am on the verge of camping on my flats balcony am so eager to get out and about now the winter storms are over and done with.
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
I do have the BRS stove but mine is not very good. I've heard that it's a bit hit and miss with quality on this stove and I must be one of the unlucky ones. Thanks for watching
@kevinoshea2870 4 жыл бұрын
Minimo all the way....✌✌ Take it everywhere work,hiking,camping etc... keep up the good work in these trying times..👍
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Kevin. I like it a lot. Easily my favourite gas stove. Thanks for watching
@jackkinseyoutdoors1321 4 жыл бұрын
I currently use a Coleman fyrestorm bit it's really bulky, so this video was great, definitely gonna change to one of the stoves, just not sure which one yet
@PaulMessner 4 жыл бұрын
hope this helped a little. Thanks for watching.
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