Camping cooking pot luck? Or Stove game changer?

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Paul Messner

Paul Messner

3 жыл бұрын

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Camping cooking pot luck? Or Stove game changer?
Jetboil stoves are known for their fast boil times and fuel efficiency. But are these rapid speeds purely down to the design of the cooking pot? I see if the pot alone can improve boil times for the MSR Pocket Rocket 2 and Soto WIndmaster, as well as a little experiment to see if the Trangia burner boil times can be improved. The results are pretty surprising.
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@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 3 жыл бұрын
If I could only have 1 stove...kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLuAnKyGnM7Scmw.html
@Wildernessoutside
@Wildernessoutside 3 жыл бұрын
for me its pr2 mate
@DanBecker
@DanBecker 3 жыл бұрын
Now you've got me thinking I should buy that Jetboil pot to go with my Soto. Another great video, Paul!
@JasonChiuTO
@JasonChiuTO 3 жыл бұрын
Olicamp has a similar pot on Amazon.
@Rashoop
@Rashoop 3 жыл бұрын
@@JasonChiuTO That's the one I went with! Looking forward to pairing it with my Soto Amicus, or Windmaster.
@texmexia49
@texmexia49 2 жыл бұрын
I’m just wondering how stable the Stash pot is with the Soto Windmaster stove?
@Gordie79hamilton
@Gordie79hamilton 3 жыл бұрын
Not just a great comparison but practically a public service announcement for campers! I'm blown away by those times. Fuel efficiency next? 👍🔥
@Zicora
@Zicora 3 жыл бұрын
My friend and I tested the jetboil stash burner against the pocket rocket 2 deluxe and used 6 different pots: Jetboil Stash, Olicamp XTS, Stanley adventure (tall stainless one), GSI 1L kettle, Toaks Ti 900ml, and USGI Canteen Cup. We boiled 2 cups of tap water in each pot with the lid off and measured the time and fuel consumption. It was done outside in 68F weather with very light wind under the back porch. Under ideal conditions the jetboil took significantly longer (3-6 minutes) to boil water but was the most efficient in terms of fuel consumption. The pocket rocket 2 burned the quickest with most taking a little over 1 minute but had a fuel penalty of 1-2g more. I think in the wind the jetboil would rapidly lose it's efficiency. I tested the Olicamp, Jetboil, and GSI pots twice using each burner (to do a low canister fuel test) as they were the most efficient pots. The Olicamp and Jetboil pots used nearly identical amounts of fuel (Olicamp 5/6g PR2, 4/5g JB, Stash 5/5g PR2, 4/4g JB) which was anticipated it's most likely due to the rings and not the pot itself that makes the difference. The Olicamp seemed to use about 1g of fuel more. I did read some interesting reviews that said that these pot styles seem to lose their efficiency with wide burners such as the whisperlite due to the flame not longer going in the center and spreading out into the rings. The GSI kettle actually did really well, likely due to the large surface area on the bottom (7/8g PR2, 5/6g JB). The kettle was more efficient with the jetboil stove than the pocket rocket, but again, I think this would change if you had to deal with wind. My least favorite pot was the Toaks which surprised me. It was the only one where the handles were untouchable after boiling the water. The Toaks pots also have a notorious problem of the lid not being very stable. Overall it came in second for most fuel consumption (10g - PR2, 7g - JB). The canteen cup did surprisingly well and was nice middle of the road in terms of fuel consumption (8g - PR2, 7g - PR2). The Stanley pot did the worst (10g - PR2, 9g - JB) but it seems to be better suited to open fire cooking given it's narrow profile. Overall I liked the design and use of the pocket rocket 2 better than the jetboil (handle is easier to turn, wind ring, build in igniter) and it definitely boils water significantly quicker with only a slight fuel consumption penalty of 1-2g. The other problem with the jetboil is that if you aren't using their associated pot the notches cut out make certain pots unstable because they don't line up correctly on the pot stand. Right now my setup is the Jetboil pot (which I wish you could buy alone) with the pocket rocket 2 and a loaner setup with the Olicamp XTS and the jetboil burner. I was a big fan of the GSI kettle as it weighs the same as the Olicamp and had a nice handle.
@Rallygupta
@Rallygupta 3 жыл бұрын
The five people that disliked this video were disappointed you didn't make a coffee with all that hot water!
@vulture3874
@vulture3874 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he was running a bath for Jo.
@JimK404
@JimK404 3 жыл бұрын
Trangia & heat exchanger pot is a genius combination - I might never carry a gas canister again!
@ke6ziu
@ke6ziu 3 жыл бұрын
Esbit makes a sturmkocher that has a 2L pan, and a 1.5L pan that both have heat exchangers... I bought one a few yrs ago, but I gave it away... it uses one of those pot support ring for pans that are non Esbit... it looked a bit flimsy, but it worked well enough for a tea kettle...
@aurtisanminer2827
@aurtisanminer2827 3 жыл бұрын
The sterno inferno kit is made specifically for this setup.
@janneliimatainen6186
@janneliimatainen6186 Ай бұрын
Exactly! This was something I had in my mind to test. Now I don´t have to, it works brilliantly.
@jjexplore9678
@jjexplore9678 3 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that even though you’re a fan of certain types of gear you always give everything a fair go. Great review
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Never worried too much about boil times, but fuel efficiency adds up on a long trip.
@swjfc1554
@swjfc1554 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Paul can’t believe how fast the pocket rocket did bloody hell 👍
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 3 жыл бұрын
I was really impressed by how quick all the stoves were.
@colinmclean3029
@colinmclean3029 3 жыл бұрын
I have the MSR Windboiler, had it since it first came out. Yes, it is a teeny bit heavier than the jetboil but it is quicker to the boil and works fantastic in very windy conditions in Scotland and Wales.
@stetomlinson3146
@stetomlinson3146 3 жыл бұрын
Paul, you've transformed my life! Or should I say, my cooking outside life. I have been looking to change my kit for an up and coming Coast to Coast walk. Going from my Trangia Spirit Burner to a gas powered set. I've looked at A Jetboil or Windburner. But the expense was one factor, but this video comparison got my looking at alternatives. I've teamed up a Fire Maple FMC 217 Cooking pot, with the "Flux Ring", with a SOTO Windmaster stove. What a brilliant system! It boils 500ML of water in 1 minute 45 seconds, outside on a sheltered, but blustery spot. With the gas NOT fully turned up. I've swapped the pot lid/cup for the lid off my Zebra 12cm billy can, because it blew off in a gust of wind, and I use my Silicon foldable cup instead. The whole thing packs way nicely and with a large 240 Coleman gas canister the whole thing, including my Titanium Spork weighs in at 814 Grams. The lid change hasn't altered the weight at all, but I might even ditch that as boiling without it is just 5 seconds longer! Total spend £75.00, not including the spork!
@grevedanko
@grevedanko 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! The comparison I was waiting for. Thanks!
@kenschindel3525
@kenschindel3525 3 жыл бұрын
I did this test a week ago with my MSR pocket rocket deluxe, same result just over a minute and a half. The MSR uses the same amount of fuel per minute as it always does, still at just over a minute and a half it uses less fuel than the Jetboil stove does in 2 and a half minutes.
@steveb1972
@steveb1972 3 жыл бұрын
A great video Paul. I use only spirit burners as I’m rarely in a rush for a cuppa, but knowing getting that type of pot could speed things up is always useful to know!👍🏻
@ryanwdmn
@ryanwdmn 3 жыл бұрын
The first boil was a cold pot. The second and third boil the pot was hot ? Did that make it quicker ?
@MoleStation1
@MoleStation1 3 жыл бұрын
Unless fresh water was used for each test, the water would've been a higher starting temperature as well, which could also dramatically shorten the time taken to reach boiling point.
@rogan70
@rogan70 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask the same question. Maybe the pot was left to cool down but not mentioned in the clip?
@tomaskonkol8894
@tomaskonkol8894 3 жыл бұрын
Even if there its heat leftover in pot the difference its miniscule and arround 3-7sec on 800ml of water. Tested with my own set up.
@andycoombes161
@andycoombes161 3 жыл бұрын
I love the trangia for its total silence. Like you I don't expect fast boil times. Top test Paul :)
@MyVikinglife
@MyVikinglife 3 жыл бұрын
I love the pocket rocket, it's been my go to gas stove for ages now.
@DaleyOutdoors
@DaleyOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Great combo with the trangia! Who’d have thought it eh 👍
@Rickstar270
@Rickstar270 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul. I know myself and many others wanted to see this test. Thanks for taking to time to do it. The results are what I expected.
@robertgullickson8758
@robertgullickson8758 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! A minute and 37 seconds! That’s incredible. That pot is a great improvement. Sounds like a good investment. Thank you for your videos. You keep me involved and motivated.
@chrishanssen1980
@chrishanssen1980 3 жыл бұрын
Paul this feels an actually important video! The improvement on boil time on a trangia is mind blowing! It makes it hard to not take it on the hills again.
@earlebacciochi9796
@earlebacciochi9796 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks👍 amazing results, surely manufacturers must be aware of this efficiency!
@paultownley5825
@paultownley5825 3 жыл бұрын
I've suspected this for a while! Nice work Paul 👍
@samwilkins6768
@samwilkins6768 3 жыл бұрын
Almost 100k paul! Looking forward to the next van episode!
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate. Windows are getting fitted tomorrow so more work after that.
@moe_1886
@moe_1886 3 жыл бұрын
Great experiment Paul, what a difference that heat exchanger makes. Very impressive. Thanks for taking the time in doing this video. Cheers.
@andrewbaxter9395
@andrewbaxter9395 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this, reminded me of Hiram Cooks boil tests 😀
@alancarter4270
@alancarter4270 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this details of your experiment. Awesome
@babboquintale7525
@babboquintale7525 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul, this is great info!
3 жыл бұрын
Well it's exactly what I expected at the video before with just the titanium pot. Enjoyed the video. Greetings from Taiwan
@SimonOutdoors
@SimonOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
The pocket rocket is wild, such a winner. The pot massively improves it too. Thanks for another top video Paul
@spartantkd1970
@spartantkd1970 3 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday Paul! Thanks for video btw
@garrycollins3415
@garrycollins3415 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I'd seen every possible stove video that can be made. I was wrong. Great video with data to geek out on.
@keithlivingstone2525
@keithlivingstone2525 3 жыл бұрын
Love my Jetboil Flash. Used it half a dozen times in the past fortnight to make coffee and cook sausages and bacon whilst hiking and biking. Thanks for the recommendation.
@stumpymacgabhann
@stumpymacgabhann 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that. Cheers. Not long before we are back on the hills.
@mysterylovescompany2657
@mysterylovescompany2657 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, Paul. These sorts of "in the camping lab" videos are an interesting shift, just for something different. I'll always love your trip videos best, but these are great, too. 🙂
@cxsey8587
@cxsey8587 Жыл бұрын
You perfectly answered my question with alcohol stoves as well, great vid!
@MrYoliss
@MrYoliss 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome testing Paul
@trinovantian1
@trinovantian1 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparisons and advice Paul......cheers.
@Francois_Dupont
@Francois_Dupont 3 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for testing my theory!
@apollo12329
@apollo12329 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Paul.
@graemesaunderson4218
@graemesaunderson4218 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison.Very handy to know these stats.Thankyou Paul.ATB
@terrypatterson1481
@terrypatterson1481 3 жыл бұрын
Great test Paul- Thanks
@pops6638
@pops6638 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Paul. I’m loving your kit comparisons videos. Very useful information for your captive audience and newcomers to your channel.
@richgarland6170
@richgarland6170 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Bud! Please keep them coming 👍
@SweeneyTTodd
@SweeneyTTodd 3 жыл бұрын
Great these comparison video's always reminds me of the Hiram Cook series of videos I'm an alcohol stove/burner fan as i'm never in a rush when i'm out and enjoy the silence of them , saying that i do sometimes use a Primus No96 paraffin stove that has been passed down in my family generations ,it's a roarer ! heavy smelly but great fun old school ! Great video Edited bit , i nearly forgot great to see the pots improve the boil time with the Trangia ! Best regards Shaun
@markashworth6293
@markashworth6293 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad I bought the oex cook kit pot, it has the heat exchanger system on it and I've been impressed by the boil times with the oex etna stove.... took it out last weekend for a bike ride and had a nice coffee when I stopped off for a picnic.
@tonyoutdoors9369
@tonyoutdoors9369 3 жыл бұрын
love your experiments paul great for all subscribers
@cormac6536
@cormac6536 3 жыл бұрын
That's a brilliant follow up Video Paul. Great to see it. Also, a real eye opener on pots with flux rings, especially if you want to use an alcohol stove. Thanks Paul.
@kpj5
@kpj5 3 жыл бұрын
Very timely thank you!
@RICHARDROLLINSONDESIGNPHOTOGRA
@RICHARDROLLINSONDESIGNPHOTOGRA 3 жыл бұрын
As you mentioned being a ‘fan boy’ of Jetboil, but I’m glad you did this test again. There is no right or wrong and it is down to personal preference, but it was nice to see the results and for people like me who now prefer value for money over brand inflated pricing. Hope the van build is going well
@dhands100
@dhands100 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video!
@philipfairburn1143
@philipfairburn1143 3 жыл бұрын
Another great show Paul
@xjessukx
@xjessukx 3 жыл бұрын
Now alpkit need to start making some titanium pots with heat exchanger on they are missing a trick here
@nbartlett6538
@nbartlett6538 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. Titanium has poor heat conductivity, only 22 W/mK whereas aluminium is 235 W/mK. You don't really need to worry about what the units mean... it should be clear enough that aluminium is more than 10 times better at conducting heat than titanium. By far the best heat conductor is silver at 430! Some fairly obvious reasons why we don't want that though. The second best seems to be copper at 400 W/mK.
@tomaskonkol8894
@tomaskonkol8894 3 жыл бұрын
Titanium with aluminium fins and shroud?
@nbartlett6538
@nbartlett6538 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomaskonkol8894 Then the problem is that titanium and aluminium have very different melting points, so they are hard (i.e. expensive) to join.
@cappaculla
@cappaculla 3 жыл бұрын
Good work Paul 👍
@markperry4474
@markperry4474 3 жыл бұрын
Really useful video, thanks. I echo what someone else said about this being a game changer for alcohol stoves.
@neemancallender9092
@neemancallender9092 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Excellent video Great set of comparisons I have a Fire Maple 0.9 liter heat exchanger pot $20 at 200g Excellent pot excellent price
@piggymito
@piggymito 3 жыл бұрын
Jet boil won't be happy with you! 😂 Thanks for a good honest video dude!
@abdullaex4119
@abdullaex4119 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always Paul. Peace from TEXAS
@propellerheadnj
@propellerheadnj 3 жыл бұрын
I love how informative and fun your videos are. I never was a big fan of jetboil rigs since the cost was pretty high and I couldn't see carrying the extra weight. Now the wife has agreed to some day hikes (miracles do happen). Since we will be re-hydrating dry meals, this is starting to make sense. I just picked up the Bulin 1.5L pot and the matching windproof infrared stove on Amazon for around $65 USD. Can't go wrong for that price. Oh well, buying more gear is fun anyway. :-)
@oddmanout98
@oddmanout98 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. The most surprising bit for me is the Trangia with the pot and the heat exchanger. I'm not normally in a rush so I tend to carry a Trangia, always cary it as a backup anyway. Thanks very much Paul. Paul
@williameddy7217
@williameddy7217 3 жыл бұрын
Great information Thanks Paul
@richlovin2173
@richlovin2173 2 жыл бұрын
After watching your video I bought the Bulin tea kettle with the flux ring. Using the Solo Windmaster I got very short boil times also. Thanks for the video - it helped!!!
@wayneberry8703
@wayneberry8703 3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great review on those pots, Paul. I’ve done the same tests myself and found mixing different units can be beneficial for sure, mate. Cheers from Down Under 🍻
@MikeycatOutdoors
@MikeycatOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Optimus Terra Weekend heatsink pot & lid pan set for stashing my Svea stove into. The heatsink flux ring makes a difference but like others said, a removable one would be handy for campfires. Thanks for doing the dirty work of comparing stoves & pots.
@VidaVidaVida80
@VidaVidaVida80 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content again Paul, I really look forward to your videos.
@shootherunnerNo1
@shootherunnerNo1 3 жыл бұрын
Really good testing video. 👌
@allenwilson5235
@allenwilson5235 2 жыл бұрын
Good test. I had tested my pocket rocket against my Jetboil with a regular pot using the adapter, but I never tested the pot on other stoves. I have a gen 1 Jetboil, so it is a small diameter pot was wobley. I never thought of trying it with the wider Jetboil pots.
@mustang774
@mustang774 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting results. Looks like that flux ring technology works. Thanks for posting this. Always fun testing cooking gear.......Take care, Bluefin.
@stevec-b6214
@stevec-b6214 3 жыл бұрын
this is great intel buddy! thanks for the work you put in. I cranked up my 40+ year old optimus paraffin pressure stove (bought for the Coast to coast with four of us to cook for) just to see if it still works, after many years, it works perfect, very heavy but you could weld with it is so hot
@andycoombes161
@andycoombes161 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you did that test Paul... I knew that would be the case as I've been using heat exchanger pots with great results.... Even with a Trangia rip off.... MUCH cheaper
@smithywick
@smithywick 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Paul brilliant comparisons there very interesting indeed 🙏
@JasonChiuTO
@JasonChiuTO 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you did this test! There is an Olicamp 1L pot on Amazon that might be a good pairing with these other stoves.
@grahamscothern4319
@grahamscothern4319 3 жыл бұрын
That’s really interesting Paul great vid 👍
@pedroclaro7822
@pedroclaro7822 6 ай бұрын
Wow the difference it made on the trangia is incredible! Makes me really want to invest in one of those pots for my wood gasifier stove. Afraid of clogging up the heat sink with soot but still might be worth it - accepting that I’ll have to clean it occasionally
@AndyWragg
@AndyWragg 3 жыл бұрын
HI mate good comparison, it was the only thing missing when you did the last test of that bling Jetboil Stove, next time wear a white lab coat and weigh the gas after each burn. Not long till we can go out camping again!!
@markwalker6757
@markwalker6757 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a stash. It would be interesting to know which set up used the most gas. Give me something to do with my other stove this weekend. Bought the stash for the weight and the fact it is a complete system. Thanks for this video. We'll be back in the Lake district soon before the masses descend. Hope they behave better than last year. Leave no trace.
@johnorille8318
@johnorille8318 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating this as I’ve been very curious how the JB Stash pot would do with other stoves and heat exchange type pots. I suspect the JB Stash fuel efficiency smashes that of the other stoves and pots. Great show!!
@OnTheRailwayOfficial
@OnTheRailwayOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
So close to 100k!
@welshwarrior5263
@welshwarrior5263 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@mariogalarza5036
@mariogalarza5036 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@matt6477
@matt6477 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@markashworth6293
@markashworth6293 3 жыл бұрын
Love the fact the trangia boils much quicker with a flux ring I will try with my oex cook pot that has this technology on it.
@jpnurminen
@jpnurminen 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the Jetboil 1,5L Ceramic Cook Pot (with fluxring) to be used with my PocketRocket Deluxe & 2. The recession in bottom of the pot fits great on the PocketRocket. I think I have to do some boiling this weekend.
@mickspain330
@mickspain330 3 жыл бұрын
Nice interesting video Paul, thanks for sharing it 👍
@hypo345
@hypo345 3 жыл бұрын
I just purchased an Optimus terra HE pot and tested it with the SOTO Windmaster (2 cups/473ml) of water and got a boil time of 1:40 I also used a SOTO fusion trek remote stove and that gave the best time I have ever achieved of 1:22 seconds. I had been sceptical of HE/flux ring technology but the gains are real and substantial.
@keithguy8573
@keithguy8573 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you for another top video 👍
@andrewmoseley-packer5132
@andrewmoseley-packer5132 3 жыл бұрын
Classic stuff Paul, great vid! I've been using a MSR Pocket Rocket (deluxe) with titanium pots and the boil times are, as you have shown, much longer than with my Jetboil system. I also find the MSR eats the fuel in comparison to the Jetboil - so investing in a pot with a flux ring could be a good money saving move!
@ROGER247
@ROGER247 3 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video. I think I'm going to give a "flux capacitor" pot ago 🤣
@bertman4
@bertman4 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Paul. That heat exchanger made a huge difference. Would be curious to see how the Trangia with heat exchanger compares to, say Trangia with flat bottom pot with Caldera Cone, which is a different way to try to capture all the heat.
@techguy9023
@techguy9023 3 жыл бұрын
Grizzle gear was doing an A.T. through hike . He had a homemade caldera cone in the winter and gave up on it. I tried making one but it boiled the alcohol out of the Fancee Feast burner.
@gilljo1
@gilljo1 3 жыл бұрын
I do like the jet boil but it's too expensive. That pot worked great with the little alcohol stove. Good vid. Thanks and stay safe.
@thomasmusso1147
@thomasmusso1147 3 жыл бұрын
An interesting comparison .. very interesting .. thanks. Now my Trangia (and Gel Fuel Burners) can go 'Turbo' 😊.
@keithguy8573
@keithguy8573 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like I need a new pot for my pocket rocket and trangias, my missus will be pleased 😁
@1988pmartinez
@1988pmartinez 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this was so useful!!! I’ve been wanting to see if a pot with a flux ring would work on a Trangia and improve boil times. I was thinking about getting the OEX Sola pot with flux ring to test on it.
@PaulMessner
@PaulMessner 3 жыл бұрын
The oex is pretty good for the money. Have they got them back in stock at go outdoors?
@1988pmartinez
@1988pmartinez 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are back in stock but it looks like they’ve changed the design slightly.
@markatchison9974
@markatchison9974 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive. It's all in the pot design & not so much the burner. I'm surprised Jetboil don't provide a better burner for the money. All things considered; I've bought a heat exchanger pot. The Vango Ultralight Heat Exchanger. I have a cheap stick stove for forests & a very old Gaz gas stove for the hills. Here we go. Thanks Paul.
@markg6320
@markg6320 6 ай бұрын
Hi - how much does just the Vango pot and lid weigh please? Thinking of replacing my existing pot/lid combo but it only weighs 110g together so I'm worried the Vango will be much heavier. Can only see the weight of the whole Vango package (incl cutlery, bowls etc) of 387g. Many hanks in advance. Mark
@AggyGoesOutdoors
@AggyGoesOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, this makes me want to run some tests of my own 🤔
@ranxxerox6407
@ranxxerox6407 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about timing Paul!!!’
@gild484
@gild484 3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I didn't think that you could use the heat exchanger pots over a open fire. Thank you for the video.
@InimitaPaul
@InimitaPaul 3 жыл бұрын
I may have to ditch the Jetboil burner for an MSR, I already have the Minimo set up and the burner is huge. Glad I went with the Minimo now, the pot is even better than I thought, it will likely replace my standard Ti pots.
@thewiltshirewomble
@thewiltshirewomble 3 жыл бұрын
Anothet great video Paul. How’s the van coming along...Eager to see what’s next.
@Hiker1958
@Hiker1958 3 жыл бұрын
It must have been a lightbulb moment when you strongly suspected that heat exchangers have a very significant effect on boil times. Great video Paul.
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