I mean it’s a team vs 5 randoms, it’s not that insane of an idea imo. My team regularly runs 3v5 games against our b-team and wins cause we have communication.

@@novakaz2279hush monkey

to be fair though, like half of them is like really high elo on all 3 roles

@@novakaz2279 the point I’m trying to make in identifying this is that there isn’t as crazy of a gap between high elo console and pc as a lot of pc golds believe there is

@@iamalfiie7700 yeah I’m pretty sure dinks has hit rank 1 on all roles before but it should be a message to the pc gold plebs that think console t500 players are pc bronzes

He knows it's just hard without gm 5 stacking

@@jameslopez9661 why not get random top 500 console. It’s obvious console does not need handicaps

best console team vs best owl team would be enough ??

@@EnergZAX we all know console is getting cooked, M&K and controlller gap is way too wide at that level

This comment is underrated!

That's not the issue either. It doesn't matter that these guys are top 10 console. They are literally a team that scrim with each other and know each other well. Jay said it twice in this video, best way to get a really good game is to have another pro team or even ex pro team to play these guys.

@@finenova6673 put Cyx with 2 top 10 supports playing Ana Kiri and he would give them a run for their money. Maybe not win but would be definitely close games

​@@finenova6673 Using the fact that they scrim together is Cope. Because if they're taking 1v1s and are just destroying the enemy team in those 1v1s, not just in team fights, then it's clearly just a skill issue.

Considering we always say GM on console is Diamond on PC this should be fair

yeah see except OW is a TEAM BASED game. It's not about 1v1s. The entire matches wasn't just 1v1 fights, the console team just absolutely fried AS A TEAM. Even in the cases where the PC team had the number advantage they still lost TEAM FIGHTS cause the console team was just better.@@thearchitectofthehounds9815

It's really not man, but I've heard a lot of players from all levels try to claim that so I get it

@@kill3rw0lf39 Except ximming is literally cheating? Wdym all levels lol I'm specifically talking about the widespread use of ximmers in top 100ish console leaderboards. Don't think a gold player would experience a t100 ximmer but sure

@Poekuli it's just not that big of a deal. Played against plenty of ximmers, as widow, and won. I just dont know why you bitch about it. And it's cute that you result to an inaccurate ad hominem there at the end.

@@kill3rw0lf39 I wasn't calling you gold lmao I was giving an example of how my statement wouldn't be applicable to "all levels"

@@Poekuli mmm

I'd argue aim assist on sticks could never come close to someone who can actually aim with a mouse. All the people claiming aim assist probably can't even play aim trainer games properly.

yes its easier to flick onto a target when on mouse, but in games like this where there is so much unpredictable movement and such fast movement, aim assist becomes op when they are able to track unpredictable movements that even the best mouse aimers cant predict, and neither would the controller aimer be able to predict but since they have aim assist they really dont have to predict it.

Nah

Someone said "aim assist is cheating tho.." like what 😭

They think aim assist is gonna do all the work for you these pathetic losers

I swear aim assist does more worse than good. Aim assist when playing widow is the worst shit ever.

like you don’t even realize you’re playing with aim assist UNTIL it fucks up your shot on someone ☠️ it’s actually horrible

​@@Sheo.G bro, aim assist on ana, that shit is the absolute worst, turned my assist all the way down cuz it kept pulling to the enemies instead of teammates

yeah obviously, get someone inexperienced to play on a platform they don't play of course they will be bad????? Not defending PC players it's just what is that logic??

This ^

Why would aim assist do that anyway, it's supposed to assist not play for you

@@noobiegamerz3561 it doesnt i just found the comment funny But yea aim assist in ow is Piss weak in comparison to like apex

​@@noobiegamerz3561some games have really strong rotational aim assist. Apex and call of duty are good examples, that make it so using a controller is a legitimate advantage over using mnk. Overwatch is not one of those games

Aim assist actually messes me up 80% of the time

When console wins it’s “aim assist op” and when they lose it’s “console players suck lol”. Actually can’t win.

@@HydratedChampion faxxxxxx dislike that stance from those people so muchhhhh

Early in the video you can see how pc tracer just snaps at console tracer head and they say aim assist is op like the reaction time is insane in pc

found the aim assist abuser

PC gamers literally have it so much easier to play, especially if aim assist didn't exist. You guys can literally use your entire arm to move where you're looking but all we have in console is our thumb and we can only try so quickly, so either I turn my sensitivity up really high and I have to make very small increments of movements, or I just deal with the fact I can't do a 180 almost instantly

Console team Win: ITS A AIMBOT 😡😡😡 console team lose: the bronze Pc is the GM console ☝️🤓

Fr it’s like PC players basically saying once all the features are in our favor then it will be a fair match, you know since they complaining that if aim assist was off then if they had a top 500 league team then it will be fair on top of their better hardware

I used to play on console and switched to pc, I’m master in both. The skill is kinda the same, aim assist makes up for it in a way. Only the movement is a little different, but they’re fairly very similar skill wise. I play with my friends that are still on console and they can easily keep up or even outperform PC players, that I don’t find surprising anymore.

PC players may have told you this, but it’s not true.

no way you just put a tone indicator

Naw aim assist doesnt do anything its the Cronus, and Xim they use

@@nickprovost6698 it's the same as the pc cheats, people get banned if found cheating, this pro players obviously don't use that things. It's sad people are always complaining about something cuz they can't get as good as good the best m&k or controller players

this made me laugh @@Manujaeger13

Console supports where cracked

As if its hard to hit shots on kiriko 😂

Us console Kirikos are just better

It’s much harder to flick on console, and harder to track on pc

@@GuineaPigLover9”our aim assist is better”

Zbra is a 1 trick doom. In the doom mirror he beats anyone

Zbra is a demon on doom it’s just not him knowing the hero the dude just views the game in a different perspective

@@ZykoYFFhe lost a doom 1v1 to max dresy recently

@@Twigz72 1v1's really don't translate to being good at the game, so much more to overwatch than just 1v1's - especially as a tank

Yup, pointless video. Console dosent need handicaps. Do random t500 players on both sides.

@@Vexed711 he has done that lol

@@cai2254 than what’s the point of posting steamrolls? Might as well post gold vs plat videos.

@@Vexed711 even with 5 stack pc, they would still lose regardless.

@@LiteralKing Dude the best console teams wouldnt take a map off the best pc teams

they had 1v1 moments pc got shitted on whats your point and i thought yall was just better now its this and thats lol

he streams sometimes his twitch is beastman076

beastman076 is his twitch

Console gm 5 is around pc gm1. And console gm 321 is all top 500pc mostly because of xims etc console has 76s with 90% accuracy it’s pretty gross

There was literally an elo hell vid where a top 500 console player was hardstuck pc diamond. Game sense was T500 but mechanics were diamond, so it seems to matter to some extent. Also scrimming matters a shit ton. Like who do you expect to win? 2023 OWL champs Florida mayhem or a bunch of random comp ladder kids? Kind of a dumb question.

@@angelstyle9677 pc diamond like fresh keyboard because that takes time to get used to

@@exilty-1851 he was hardstuck diamond, pretty sure thr keyboard wasn't the problem

@@Vegaan game sense was t500 but mechanics was diamond sounds like keyboard learning issue to me

I mean yea pc players have the advantage of idk their whole fucking arm, obviously this was kinda of an unfair fight but I think you’re forgetting idk again that pc players have first off their entire arm, they get flicks higher fps and normally they have better ping than the console players.

controller aim assist also helps

@@Danieljosol did you actually watch the games here? The biggest differences were target prioritization and retakes, both a function of team play

@@isaacjones6323 ah, so you're saying they didnt play with aim assist, I stand corrected then. my b

@@Danieljosol can you please point to the part of my comment where I said that?

Yessirr 🔥

@@LuisOchoa-eq2dh no way you agreed to your own comment 😭

@@cytro sometimes you just gotta agree when a real ngga say sum

This is a playstation team…

and the realkenzo

@@iwantsomeofuhe’s a washed masters player

from what jay has said before it's so difficult to get the EU streamers but maybe he could get them

@@iwantsomeofukenzo is masters

​@@burritoman8922his account is cursed or something because there are so many videos of him going 5-0 and still staying the same rank

the majority of them don’t even play ladder anymore they just scrim lol. idk what you’re talking about

That doesnt explain the clapping in the 1v1s. Lets face it, these top 500s got clamped

Tbh I play on 100 sensitivity and everyone I play in masters accuses me of ximming. like I’m not even that good bro

@@kamthescholarsame here bro I’m peak Masters 1 on dps and I get accused of using one. Like bruh I’m shit it’s just a lucky game 🤣

@@noahmcdonald4064 ong

@@noahmcdonald4064 I thinks he’s talking about gm lobbies. I also have high sense but i can tell the difference between my aim and a KSA player who xims in gm..

They all use a cronus lolz

I don't understand your point, just play the game and you get better. It's a xbox controller, not a remote controller

@@nickprovost6698Cronus thankfully don’t work no more on PlayStation, don’t know bout xbox tho

Well they are in the top 0.001% of aiming with a controller. Most people are not gonna be able to aim like that

top 0.001% because of the cronus lolz @@nas4750

Fr. We need to see an actual pro pc team

Oh and tbh in that episode console actually put up a amazing fight. And they were truly toxic to each other the whole time. "ORB WHERES MY ORB!!!"

fax

All the pc players are on off-roles

I know its cringe

yeah, and his teammates are all on offroles too lol

Mate, you're complaining about someone who only uses their thumb, with a joystick, whist you have you're whole arm, better graphics, and scripts

​@@veluxmitochondriaph1373scripts? No one uses scripts on pc

I have played this game for 8 years and have not experienced that once. Either way, if that was true then we would see console players below GM actually beat PC players more often, but it doesn’t happen at all. M&K is the superior input for this game.

Not true, I hit top 500 with soldier and use a controller. Got to top 126, but it got really hard after that since a lot of sobjorns straight up xim :(

they had a rein an junk and ppl still brought up aim ast

you can literally watch it happen 😭😭😭 im neutral and have no opinion but watch their ashe its a joke

well imo they do cause console t500 is diamond on pc right?

controller

In top 500 I think it’s even, below GM/t500 PC wins easily.

@greenpig1175 id still say pc win as the thing to consider is at top rank although console gets aim assist pc dont need it at that rank but they do have more key binding options to help with movement abilities etc aswell its closer and ofc console can beat pc but overall pc will always win

Um what no there's a huge difference between owl vs top 500. It's not visible in ow 2 cause everybody's gm1, but basically in ow 1 4600 was usually where normal owl players sat at, which is basically impossible for normal top500s. Ask anybody thats good they will tell you there's a huge difference.

@@ignorantslaves89 That's not possible. Only a few people reached that sr and even fewer from among them join owl. Try again

@@Reartwig you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. First of all 4.6 in ow1 was usually every top 15 player on the leaderboard in a season. Second Good Owl academy teams requirement for even trying out for then was 4.4 so I don't know what youre talking about. Most owl players have gotten 4.6 multiple times and usually stayed within the 4.5 and 4.6 range. I can name every American owl player who was usually 4.6 too. And the guys have als gotten rank 1 multiple times. You can just search it up. Danteh, super, hydron, ultra violet, ojee, space, Reiner, aspire, s9mm, coluge, speedily, sinatraa, RuPaul, Jake, landon, lukemino, funny astro, dove, rakattack. Etc. These are just the American player who have reached 4.6, not even countin the other nationalities in owl. Most there are usually In the 4.6 or 4.5 range. Most there have also reached 4.7. One of, if not the worst owl player ever, Malthel is also a top 100 DPS player usually. The Koreans are also on average better than this. Like genuinely you have no idea what your talking about. You don't even have to take my word for it. Go on reddit look up awkward ( a multiple rank 1 player) and search up his comment from like 3 or 4 years ago. He'll straight up tell you that a good or normal owl player should always be at 4.6 or 4.5 if they are actually trying in ranked.

@@ignorantslaves89 But most t500 we see regularly (not owl players) are using mid to high level. The highest t500 hit close to those ranks aswell on console. I never said they got the bottom t500. Also we dont know what ranks the players were in the video. Looked like 4200 - 4400. I dont want to bother going too deep arguing with you but theres a reason even owl players dont hit 5000, because they lose games. I still think a decent t500 vs owl players would still be close

@@Reartwig The guys from console they were 4.6 players in console ow1. Btw the best player on console : Hcpeful, who has gotten rank 1 on both console and PC will straight up tell you good or normal owl players are just much better than top500. It's literally in their job descriptions. They have to be better. For most owl teams, at minimum you had to have gotten 4.6. Then if you tryout and get a spot on the team, you will normally scrim for more than 3 hours most days and you might play a couple more hours of ranked after. I don't know what to tell you dude, they are just better. That why they're paid to play.