Can a Retired Oval Go Kart Outperform a New Tillotson T4 Racing Kart? 3 Way Track Shootout!

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@TXH1138
@TXH1138 2 жыл бұрын
Should have had the same tires. We would have gotten a better comparison of the kart performance.
@ThePower1037
@ThePower1037 Жыл бұрын
That old cart had too much tire in the rear.
@s2wheels
@s2wheels Жыл бұрын
I definitely agree, should've all had the same tires.
@ValenGR86
@ValenGR86 Жыл бұрын
@@ThePower1037 WIDE
@huntermcnair7172
@huntermcnair7172 Жыл бұрын
Tire set up on the flat cart is for ovals which is why the right sides are so much larger. It's made to turn left. Put em on the same tires and run em like that.
@Chuckdiesel86
@Chuckdiesel86 Жыл бұрын
It also needs weight on the right side. The seat is farther to the left on oval karts. What I wanna see is the circle kart motor on the road kart, it makes more sense because if you modify the circle kart to turn right you're basically just turning it into the road kart but worse.
@CarsandCameras
@CarsandCameras 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Independence Day!!
@austinisaperson6093
@austinisaperson6093 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, brother!
@tophernuttle420
@tophernuttle420 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 4th Ol Sons.... Hope it's a great one for both You and Yours...Thanks for all the great content our Guys!!
@Wolfpackracing8
@Wolfpackracing8 2 жыл бұрын
Right back at you guys
@ryandoesit5407
@ryandoesit5407 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a question for you guys to rattle your mechanical brains? On a dual carb setup on a motorcycle 🏍 if one air intake vacuum hose nipple is plugged permanently on the left carb do you plug the opposite carb in the same place to make it run🤔 Let me know lol that's what I'm trying to figure out . Or do you use plugs in all vacuum lines 🤔 help a brother out Ike
@stevemacdaddy9909
@stevemacdaddy9909 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 4th of July guys. Great video. Looked fun as hell.
@Zachmaas64
@Zachmaas64 2 жыл бұрын
I think we are seeing mostly a difference in tires on these carts would love to see Charles Kart get the same tires as the t4. We use to run circle karts on road courses all the time.
@hybiepoo
@hybiepoo 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed - I think unless you're running the same tyres on each kart, you're not really determining much at all. You could just see charles' kart had very little grip on any demanding corner.
@deangiacopassi1951
@deangiacopassi1951 Жыл бұрын
What do you do to get an oval kart to turn right?
@bumpedhishead636
@bumpedhishead636 Жыл бұрын
Yup, my first thought was the same - I'm guessing the tires on Charles' kart were old, he had no grip.
@verigone2677
@verigone2677 Жыл бұрын
@@deangiacopassi1951 either shorten your right front suspension or lengthen your left front slightly for a start, those carts are setup assymetrical so that they always kind of pull a little left, let's you brake later and back on full throttle faster in the turns, since you know they are all the same direction. If you know how to fabricate, then you can do it all yourself with some scrap metal and what's already there, or for $100 - 200 you can get new hubs and parts to have a more even front suspension then another $100 to have someone fab any alterations if you don't know how to do that part.
@FangOfTruth
@FangOfTruth 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Charles’s kart would do a faster time going in the opposite direction on the track.
@glenncaughey5044
@glenncaughey5044 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t we all? 😁
@backcountryme
@backcountryme 2 жыл бұрын
Or if he had good tires.
@scottdoubleyou563
@scottdoubleyou563 2 жыл бұрын
Or both...😎
@cro-thehacker7018
@cro-thehacker7018 2 жыл бұрын
Good tires would make it turn lol
@PabloFernandez-uf7ci
@PabloFernandez-uf7ci 2 жыл бұрын
imo this video was a sell out. They're obviously sponsored by that company and you can tell that they were just showcasing it and making the othwr karts seem so much worse when the built one is obviously the best, they used a cheap excuse and say it vibrated too much. But again it may just be a bad speculation on my part
@bryduhbikeguy
@bryduhbikeguy 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the format of all onscreen at the same time.In helmet mics was a really great idea too.Thanks for the fun guys.All 3 of you need to work on Charles' cart and build it to track everywhere.You could certainly here it get up and go,but not go where you want.Happy 4th to Everyone !!
@MarkMarvin1983
@MarkMarvin1983 2 жыл бұрын
I liked that you guys could talk to each other while racing.
@ronniepate4315
@ronniepate4315 2 жыл бұрын
That was cool
@spyder7758
@spyder7758 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 4th! Thanks for posting today
@spikeofdeath95
@spikeofdeath95 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching for 6 years now and it never gets old
@hardnaaklife
@hardnaaklife 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Charles' kart would be fine with some new, sticky rear tires. The front end was holding fine, but the rear would just slide. It's got a straight rear axle, so there's no adjustment there. Seems like the front end was OK, but may need an alignment to make it a bit less twitchy. I'd like to see a rematch after the $500 kart gets new shoes.
@timothymilam732
@timothymilam732 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 150% , otherwise, he'd have smoked the ringer by such a large margin that I honestly feel he'd have lapped Ike easily. But he was chumped for sponsorship sake, I believe that to be the reason things were the way they were. Charles is an old dirt track racer from way back, and he's actually the best one at the majority of the little events they preform for the channel. Very obvious when you watch him when Ike's ego isn't around to be bruised by being second best because being one of the senior members. Not that I have anything against him, but it was very obvious when Charles joined full-time insecurities were getting to Ike
@T34theAmericanheavy
@T34theAmericanheavy 5 ай бұрын
@@timothymilam732 I noticed that too, ike is far more harsh towards Charles than john
@michaeltraughber5246
@michaeltraughber5246 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 4th guys, y'all rock.
@frankgeimer5952
@frankgeimer5952 2 жыл бұрын
Good racing guys! I think Charles's gocart needs some serius repairs and upgrades if it is going to compete. Thanks for the show! I enjoyed it a lot!
@rimfire2642
@rimfire2642 2 жыл бұрын
Charles should mod that cart unless he wants to keep it for ovals (which seems like it wouldn't be that great). Stretch the wheelbase and maybe try to get the weight distribution closer L/R.
@janeames1513
@janeames1513 2 жыл бұрын
they still run those exact karts here in talladega...those are called "heavy" karts..so yeah they are still that great
@rimfire2642
@rimfire2642 2 жыл бұрын
@@janeames1513 It looks like something that would be for very small oval, and probably not a 25hp engine based on the wheelbase. I don't know, maybe it just needs some better (new) tires?
@boominS10
@boominS10 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. An alignment and new tires would help a lot.
@bluenugget5658
@bluenugget5658 Жыл бұрын
And maybe a spoiler
@WyFoster
@WyFoster 2 жыл бұрын
Not bad, for a yard kart (That cost me more to build than my T4) 😂
@mxwizzard
@mxwizzard 2 жыл бұрын
I love these types of videos please keep them coming and maybe fix up Charles's go kart and rerun the test
@thedr309
@thedr309 2 жыл бұрын
if you put a little effort into Charles cart it would handle with the best of them, things like tire pressure, caster camber, toe in, all are factors you seem to ignore. but one thing I did learn in this video... John has no idea what so ever what the apex of a corner is... lmao Ike just having fun, and Charles is like a fat kid in a candy store he is just happy to be there...
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 2 жыл бұрын
John knows what an APEX is as he is a retired cart racer. Not sure what video you were watching but John was hitting the APEX and is faster than both Charles & Ike by a large margin. On all three carts.
@nutdough
@nutdough 2 жыл бұрын
Every episode....EVERY EPISODE....needs to end with a quote from the "Book of Charles".... .....one legged guy in a butt kicking contest..........
@TheRoulette77
@TheRoulette77 2 жыл бұрын
start adding banks to your home dirt course... you guys should each build your own Tillerson 9000 RPM mini Outlaws !!!
@GeorgiaGrowGuy
@GeorgiaGrowGuy 2 жыл бұрын
it takes a long time to put these together, thats a compliment not a complaint. Cheers
@koljag5
@koljag5 2 жыл бұрын
The editing was perfect on this.
@ronniepate4315
@ronniepate4315 2 жыл бұрын
You guys just keep getting better . Loving the content .
@thefishingchannel3192
@thefishingchannel3192 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guy's, I just wanna say thank you for providing great content throughout the years. I know these videos take time and a lot of work. Glad I could see you guys progress with videos from before to now.
@politican4thepeople303
@politican4thepeople303 Жыл бұрын
Love all the videos I watched so far.....I know I live in OCMD and grew up riding dirtbikes and go Karts......My Last dirtbike was a KX100 and I had to sell everything living where I do now...So you guys remind me of myself when I was younger. Also the fun you guys have with each other...Keep it going and can't wait to watch more.
@focustuner10
@focustuner10 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Charles cart vs the tillitson again except do a refresh on Charles kart first. New tires, brakes, alignment, ect. Get it set up for road course with the same engine and go again. That engine and gearing seemed perfect for the kart but it just wasnt set up for asphalt.
@efrembolden7892
@efrembolden7892 2 жыл бұрын
A one-legged man in a butt kicking contest lol
@fieldinglover
@fieldinglover 2 жыл бұрын
Time for a test of tires and a different setup to make Charles cart into a Monster Cart !
@nathan.t47
@nathan.t47 2 жыл бұрын
There’s no real competition with Charles’s oval kart on old, crappy tires vs a brand new sprint kart. If you buy some decent tires and adjust the stagger and suspension setup on the oval kart it should make for a more interesting race. Love what you guys do tho, keep it up!
@jaxon_racing
@jaxon_racing 4 ай бұрын
the tiliston would always win since it is a 225cc 4-stroke while the oval kart is a 206cc 4-stroke
@47MasoN47
@47MasoN47 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Charles joined you guys. He's hilarious and I can tell he's getting more and more comfortable with each episode. Look forward to seeing more T4 content! Love the built carts and seeing you guys do sketchy stuff of course, but I'd definitely be down to see some more track time episodes.
@joshburroughs1740
@joshburroughs1740 Жыл бұрын
Charles is a riot. A great addition to the channel
@85superchris
@85superchris 2 жыл бұрын
yall are doing great on your presentation and delivery of content. the challenge style will never get old
@earlsinoz
@earlsinoz 2 жыл бұрын
Charles and his witty comments cracks me up..lol, another great video guys, nice work!
@FloridaMan0561
@FloridaMan0561 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say that y’all have balls of steel and absolutely no fear when it comes to y’all riding/driving these death trap builds you create!
@jasonmerrell5382
@jasonmerrell5382 2 жыл бұрын
Loved seeing the side by side by side comparison, great job!
@Invincibletro
@Invincibletro Жыл бұрын
I raced karts for about 12 years... 20 years ago... Karts used the frame for torsion suspension so to remain competitive at the highest levels, karts are usually replaced every year or two. They'd also get fractionally lighter and have track tuned engines and gearing. Sometimes we would tap-out mid straight, but our out-of-corner acceleration would make up the difference.
@rangerst_870
@rangerst_870 2 жыл бұрын
Put brand new tires on Charles’ cart, fix the suspension, PAINT THE BODY ONE COLOR, and run it against the T4 again but with different gearing on the T4 to help with acceleration. But also try a race from a stand still.
@oldcars46
@oldcars46 2 жыл бұрын
You need to rebuild the front end on Charles cart
@davideldridge8333
@davideldridge8333 2 жыл бұрын
Them old hard dirt tires are the problem good video none the less
@EJ-74
@EJ-74 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Gocart Track Content 🔥👍 Happy 4th 🎉🎊🎉🎊✌️
@joshbuell7933
@joshbuell7933 2 жыл бұрын
Love the triple screen cut to see the laps at the same time.
@Jukeboxkcnsd
@Jukeboxkcnsd 2 жыл бұрын
I think you guys need to throw some money at the old Charles kart and see how it does ..I bet just a new set of shoes would find it 2 seconds....just saying 🤔
@danielbohn7461
@danielbohn7461 2 жыл бұрын
Editing was spot on. Seems to fit the time line the best.
@ZipTieTyler
@ZipTieTyler 2 жыл бұрын
love you guys!
@jpoplin1
@jpoplin1 2 жыл бұрын
John the Kart stig!
@danf4616
@danf4616 2 жыл бұрын
The Isaac beard situation is very confusing! 😁 Just kidding, thanks for the vids! 😎
@jamesratliff9760
@jamesratliff9760 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 4th to all the c@c crew. And every one that watches this video. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🎉🎉🎉✌
@gingertimelord5
@gingertimelord5 2 жыл бұрын
Don't change a thing, the content is honest and awesome
@olekaarvaag9405
@olekaarvaag9405 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content from this track. You guys should invest in tires one day. Like go wild and buy as many sets possible. Every build in the future would thank you. Did he say 'one legged man in a butt kicking contest'?
@peterherrington3300
@peterherrington3300 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he did. Love his sense of humour
@justinduffey9237
@justinduffey9237 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the three different screens at one time.
@lsh6707
@lsh6707 Жыл бұрын
Love the sociaal felling you give. And the fun you have.
@GooseGosselin
@GooseGosselin 2 жыл бұрын
Nice laps John, even nicer editing! FWIW though, we're all here because of the content and the chemistry you guys have, you don't have to go Hollywood to impress us. A lil jankiness is welcomed.
@rickhewitt8588
@rickhewitt8588 2 жыл бұрын
Having all three at the track keeps it great! Ringo to ya!
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 2 жыл бұрын
John is whooping butt on all three Karts! He bombs it peddle to the metal, lol. Let's Go, John! Happy 4th of July, guys!
@danielmott8830
@danielmott8830 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content John! I did not care for the three screens approach and I just ended up watching one of the screens anyway. Keep up the good work!
@stevenlorcher-bond6897
@stevenlorcher-bond6897 Жыл бұрын
I race the oval karts, the facts is is that it just isn’t designed to do tight corners off the gas. It likes it fast and shallow, and ofc left😂
@krakhedd
@krakhedd 2 жыл бұрын
This editing & format worked well
@NVSRides
@NVSRides 2 жыл бұрын
Looked like a really good time. Thanks for sharing your adventures.
@TRAKsportsTV
@TRAKsportsTV 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Karting content on a proper track!🙏🏻 I understand the comments about "fixing up" Charles' kart but the message here is about "getting what you pay for" and what to expect on a track.... That T4 people dont realize how much of a great price it is when comparing all factors of getting into Pro-Karting
@cravenmoorehead5636
@cravenmoorehead5636 Жыл бұрын
Well you do get what you pay for but we are talking apples to oranges to bananas on this video. That LTO with a genuine american Briggs like it has wasnt a bargain buy in 2013 by no stretch of the imagination. Think about it like an F1, a indy and a nascar. They are fast at their own game. Unfortunately for the oval they put it in the wrong sand box.
@joshcoker88
@joshcoker88 2 жыл бұрын
Love the race cart content, you guys are doing a great job!!!
@frankw8315
@frankw8315 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome like always guys
@jamesgnarkill3112
@jamesgnarkill3112 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah matching tires is a must have!!!..loved the content guys!!!
@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas
@BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys !!
@Yohosun
@Yohosun 2 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Jeb the bush 🌵
@ncwarrior62
@ncwarrior62 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Kudos to John nice to see you front n center racing in the carts!! Charles n Issac you guys are awesome always challenging n pushing equipment!!
@northwestrider369
@northwestrider369 Жыл бұрын
I left a VIR kart in the grass at the end of the backstretch once because on the cool down lap that no one ever uses as a cool down, one of the front spindles broke. I waited, and even waved my arms, but the track crew teenagers never saw me or realized one of their karts didn’t come back and they sent the next group out. So I hopped the fence so I was out of the way, walked back with the helmet and set it back in the rack. The track crew was looking at me funny, so I quickly said the steering had broke and they could find their kart over in the corner. Then walked out. Since it happened on the cool down lap of my second session, it was still a fun time though. Nothing like a group of racers at a rental kart track.
@jshkohler
@jshkohler Жыл бұрын
So, the abandoned go kart, yea that isn't made for asphalt tracks. Its more of a dirt oval kart. Also, I know people are gonna question me, "How do you know?". I have a brother who owns 8 of them, runs them in many different series and I work on them. The fat tires on the back are meant for better grip on dirt. The engine that he has on there is for the small younger kids who are just starting out in karts. The bigger engines need a high powered electric gun to start them and each class of dirt kart has to meet weight restrictions. You can add weight to the karts. Wouldn't recommend using a dirt kart on asphalt, but hey, its your kart you do what you want with it.
@bobmanzi7712
@bobmanzi7712 2 жыл бұрын
great stuff guys thanks
@giannamolinari3065
@giannamolinari3065 Жыл бұрын
The format i like it at it is really.
@Noprivacy666
@Noprivacy666 2 жыл бұрын
John killed your guys driving. It wasn’t even close. Good job John.
@handyhippie6548
@handyhippie6548 2 жыл бұрын
charles' cart needs some new, sticky tires and some weight redistribution. i think then he would be king of this track. that beat up old cart must have really been something in it's day. from the lap times you can tell a few things, john weighs the least, charles is the most cautious, and if they were all in similar carts, with similar weights, ike would come out on top. he's got the skill and fearlessness to be a really good race driver. this format works so far, but if you are going to be doing a lot of this, you might want to get a couple more cameras on tripods set up at different points on the track to capture the action better. if they were remote controlled with powered tilt, pan and zoom functions, with some practice one cameraman could operate the entire set up from a central location. install the entire control system in one of those large road cases on wheels that bands use for concerts, then system set up and tear down would be quick and simple, plus it would protect the expensive function control electronics and video switching systems from damage. if you also integrated a dvr with editing software into the system, you would then have an all in one unit to capture, record and edit anything you wanted to make a video of at your home base, or on location, and since you have made this a full time gig, it would be a worthwhile investment into your production company. bonus, with a little time spent in research, prolly right here on youtube, you could build the whole thing yourselves, and turn the build into a d.i.y. video series, you are named cars AND cameras after all. with a rig like that, you could prolly even make some extra money on the side filming other events such as weddings, parades, car shows, commercials for local businesses and the like, once you got the hang of operating the system. the world would be your oyster, the only thing holding you back would be limits of your imagination.
@mrgmc6314
@mrgmc6314 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the 3 screen shoot outs ...
@revvychevvy43
@revvychevvy43 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap im early love the videos guys keep up the good work
@Slow_d41
@Slow_d41 2 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite cart tracks
@AFFMotorsport
@AFFMotorsport 2 жыл бұрын
The T4 combo is a great chassis/Engine set up, sort the geraring, a few set up adjustments and they are quick for a stock 4 banger.
@tophermatic4528
@tophermatic4528 2 жыл бұрын
Charles needs some fresh stickers.
@jameswarren423
@jameswarren423 2 жыл бұрын
Too cool looks like a great day at work definitely ! great video to👍🏼🤩💪🏼
@MrBenstero
@MrBenstero 2 жыл бұрын
I like the 3 views at the same time idea, also maybe new tires on the yard kart and test it again for comparison. Def want to see more of that T4 for sure!
@JohnHill-jm7tm
@JohnHill-jm7tm 2 жыл бұрын
Always a great video guys. This Old Man from Washington NC enjoying white taking a break. Isaac enjoyed talking to you yesterday. Love you Guys. 🛵🧔💝💝💝
@countrychase3873
@countrychase3873 2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing all three views at the same time.
@miketee2444
@miketee2444 Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda glad all we had in my town was an old dirt track maintained by random drivers that showed up on the wknds. I had an old Margay with a huge McCulloch on it. The style was much different. Completely crossed up with two rooster tails coming off each tire through the corners. Back then our Yamaha shop sold a Yamie cart with a 100 or 125 on it. My chain saw motor would smoke the Yamaha fairly easily and four strokes didn't have a chance.
@JohnMGibby
@JohnMGibby 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and looks like you guys had a ton of fun. John, IMO your videos have more draw to them when you can convey how much fun you are having. That said, I really enjoyed the tri-split screen showing fastest of each of your laps. This would have also been a great opportunity to have some drone chase footage.
@MayheM_72
@MayheM_72 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck's kart is just like Ricky Bobby! It goes fast, and turns left!
@shakyhandpictures2185
@shakyhandpictures2185 2 жыл бұрын
Great day at work!
@GeorgiaRidgerunner
@GeorgiaRidgerunner 2 жыл бұрын
The way you did the the driving sections is cool with me it reminded of the intro to the original gran turismo itwould be cool if there was drone shots too
@Chris-cq5dy
@Chris-cq5dy 2 жыл бұрын
Great show great challenge great content
@gokarting1018
@gokarting1018 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see the dirt kart race the dirt oval again
@darploin5071
@darploin5071 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry I didn't watch this video yesterday but I was doing 4th of July things with my friends. Tuesday I'm able to watch this and give him my undivided attention have an excellent day and I hope you had an excellent forth
@derricklamb8863
@derricklamb8863 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content
@dankdabby826
@dankdabby826 2 жыл бұрын
John is just naturally gifted on the wheel
@pjbklk
@pjbklk 2 жыл бұрын
John's always a Savage! Balls to the wall in everything...... I'm the same haha
@davidkuhn3058
@davidkuhn3058 2 жыл бұрын
What are you guys using for communications? To me thats freaking awesome to race together and communicate as you go. Makes for great content. Best utube channel ! Love u guys
@davidowen888
@davidowen888 2 жыл бұрын
Best Day ever at work 👍
@Troygehring
@Troygehring 2 жыл бұрын
Happy 4th of July boys!
@toddabbott781
@toddabbott781 2 жыл бұрын
The blue cart has smaller tires. That blue cart is likely half the weight. If he ditched that heavy shell on the yard kart, fixed the suspension and put some new tires on it, it likely would have outdone the others. It seemed to have the best gearing and power combination.
@cavemanvi
@cavemanvi 2 жыл бұрын
The split screen was a great idea. Although the audio was confusing. Maybe make the audio come from the fastest time and making that one a bit bigger?
@steveroach4282
@steveroach4282 2 жыл бұрын
With the right gearing Charles's kart would be right there with the tillostonkart !!!!! I feel !!!
@trumpfancardanostakepool4737
@trumpfancardanostakepool4737 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@Unholymackrl
@Unholymackrl 2 жыл бұрын
amazing!
@bigred35089
@bigred35089 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the three in one shot. I know it makes the video longer but I like the one on one video. Thanks for the content.
@chevelle5014
@chevelle5014 2 жыл бұрын
A one legged man in a butt kicking competition...🤣🤣🤣
@dimesack-drunkenmaster6742
@dimesack-drunkenmaster6742 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 👏 👏 👏
@gasman1143
@gasman1143 2 жыл бұрын
do the same race again with the same tyers on all the carts. tyers make a big differance with handdaling
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