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Can A US Navy Coordinated ToT Strike Beat An S-400 & Pantsir IADS? (WarGames 65) | DCS

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Grim Reapers

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@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Vs S400 Series: Tossing Nukes vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ateIjcSJ2J_Jgmw.html MLRS vs S-400: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bs1xjat-0amydqs.html USN ToT Strike vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ftmCatyfzqqdhYE.html Kh-47M2 Kinzhal vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/etCThNGj27OsknU.html Sweden & Star Wars vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZlgZrSf0bzTnmQ.html WWI, WWII & Stealth vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pL-niLR41LW3pWw.html USAF 4th Gen Strike vs S-400 IADS: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z9WBa6xhlavSk3U.html Different USAF Bombers vs S-400: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6mjldKArJa1hWg.html
@appalachianamerican2075
@appalachianamerican2075 2 жыл бұрын
That last kill wasn't from the S-400, that was Tom Cruise using the scietologolical force to exact his revenge.
@DDGVET4
@DDGVET4 2 жыл бұрын
For what? Not making Top Gun II sooner?
@AndySpicer
@AndySpicer 2 жыл бұрын
That was a wonderfully planned and executed suicide mission. Well done!
@gl1500ctv
@gl1500ctv 2 жыл бұрын
"The defense department regrets to inform you that your sons are dead because they were stupid." - RIP Goose
@OldFartGrows
@OldFartGrows 2 жыл бұрын
The mission failed, but the banter won the day
@Davros-vi4qg
@Davros-vi4qg 2 жыл бұрын
Might have missed this…. Why are cruise missiles at 5000ft?!? More like 50ft rl. Which means S400 gets about 20 miles or approx 3 minutes to react.
@krismurphy7711
@krismurphy7711 2 жыл бұрын
The ENTIRE PURPOSE of the Tomahawks is to do NOE...Nap Of the Earth terrrain following at the lowest altitude possible.
@duthimer219
@duthimer219 2 жыл бұрын
I think that was ASL not AGL
@ser43_OLDC
@ser43_OLDC 2 жыл бұрын
Just DCS programing, no cruise misile is flying at his lowest altitude
@Davros-vi4qg
@Davros-vi4qg 2 жыл бұрын
Shipwrecks have terrain following. Freakin’ cruise missiles don’t. Mmm… sim or propaganda tool!?!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Don;t know but we can't control it.
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 2 жыл бұрын
Good job and great video. It’s a shame though that DCS can’t model actual EW warfare (nor could they since even 30 year old capabilities are still classified). One would never attack a site like this without EW support. With it, it’s quite manageable with a good plan. EW significantly degrades the range at which targets can be Engagaed AND creates even more false contacts. It wouldn’t see 72 TALDS and 20 missles 150 miles out. If would see static or nothing until -at a range much closer than it has in a “clean environment”, it sees hundreds of contacts approaching quickly. Wouldn’t need to launch many TALDS. I’m reality, the TALDS arent designed to be targets to overwhelm. They are designed to “stimulate” the air defense system to turn on and track so it can be located, fixed and either destroyed with JSOW, JASM low observable munitions or suppressed with HARMS.
@SukhoyBoy4113
@SukhoyBoy4113 2 жыл бұрын
Cope
@mixit2413
@mixit2413 2 жыл бұрын
Well there is no reason why DCS couldn't model EW it would be an estimate as are many thing are already in the game I doubt the coding would be that hard.
@gregelliott2165
@gregelliott2165 2 жыл бұрын
I think the TALDs were so bunched up (except for Grump's lovely spread) that a single Growler took out the lot of them. The planning was exceptional, execution was classic GR. Another fun video, well done.
@KortanaDCS
@KortanaDCS 2 жыл бұрын
You know, the worst bit is that this is without Skynet integration... It is gonna get a whole lot meaner soon 😈
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
ooooOOO eek
@castlekingside76
@castlekingside76 2 жыл бұрын
Russia has overlapping SAM coverage right now in Ukraine. S400/S300 etc. They haven't provided much protection against cruise missles and other aircraft. There's no way Russian troops would be this capable. Apparently Ukraine targets the radar systems and not the launchers. I like these simulations in terms of showing what Russian crews could do when trained under NATO standard. Secondly, Russian SAMS have shot down their own jets and SAM launchers. Literally shot themselves. Video on here of it.
@Eo_Tunun
@Eo_Tunun 2 жыл бұрын
It's the typical russian overselling of the capabillities. The Moskva's S-300 search radar wasn't able to detect the two incoming missiles at all, as was evident from the tracking radar's antenna still being in the off-position when the power failed. The first thing the crew will have known about being under attack was when the first missile went *Bang!*
@user-qn3xu5ee3t
@user-qn3xu5ee3t 2 жыл бұрын
Any statistics or that is just your pure fantasy?
@toetagjeee
@toetagjeee 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-qn3xu5ee3t Russian sources are angry cause they cannot intercept HIMARS shooting up your precious warehouses. Btw. Putin Khuilo.
@chichotwojay740
@chichotwojay740 2 жыл бұрын
Except that US analysts say the exact opposite. That Russian air defences are virtually impossible to overcome, and that they are actually operating with great proficiency in Ukraine.
@ghostfacegrillah7891
@ghostfacegrillah7891 2 жыл бұрын
@@chichotwojay740 Which is why literally everyone involved in that conflict is flying somewhere close to 50 meters off the ground
@thesquirejoosh4088
@thesquirejoosh4088 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely gorgeous mission but would love to see something similar with weegens as the TOT with their waypoint systems is my favorite.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
We did a ToT with Weegans on this one but we didn't use the waypoints: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZlgZrSf0bzTnmQ.html
@thesquirejoosh4088
@thesquirejoosh4088 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers still awesome thanks!!
@jasonvick55
@jasonvick55 Жыл бұрын
“That’s one good thing about the S-400, is we can see it, seeing us. So, if we can see it, seeing us, then we know…it can see us” - Cap Love Caps words of wisdom 😉🤣
@randalljones4370
@randalljones4370 2 жыл бұрын
I realize the typical GR battleplan involving decoys goes something like "cram as many deck-ducks under the Bogs' wings then blaze in to under a klick and blaze with gunz'.... but wouldn't it make more sense to try something with a little more standoff potential (e.g. the AGM-88E)? It was the Desert Storm way of doing things. I think you could still get 6 TALDs underwing plus a couple AGM-88's. If you can get within 50 miles then let the AGMs loose. No need to make the face take it on the chin.
@DirtyHairy1
@DirtyHairy1 2 жыл бұрын
NATO Headquarters: "Write that down! WRITE THAT DOWN!!"
@johnvoytko2424
@johnvoytko2424 2 жыл бұрын
Scotty: my wife's thighs are like thrashers...i need it dial it back. Killing me
@johnvoytko2424
@johnvoytko2424 2 жыл бұрын
Lol..That's what i meant. Sorry drinking, laughing and texting is dangerous combination.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
U.S. Navy VS Iranian Attack! Drone Sworm! Silkworms with Flack Guns defending and Iranian air to air F-14's protection! Iranian anti ship F-14's, Iranian UH-1H's, and Boghammars all attacking together! VS U.S. Carrier Fleet! U.S. Carrier Fleet has additional Iowa Class Battleship, Helicopters on support ships, and Human Pilots fly F-18 Super Hornet's starting in air!👍
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
22:38 wham bam thank you mam😂
@timothysalmon2259
@timothysalmon2259 2 жыл бұрын
The goat ears made me snort coffee until it came out of my eyes! Funny.
@seanpreston3653
@seanpreston3653 2 жыл бұрын
I realize that's a take my word thing👊👊. A honest man's pillow is his peace of mind
@johnhodgson4216
@johnhodgson4216 2 жыл бұрын
I am just waiting for the 500 missile attack and 500 decoys deployed.
@theafro
@theafro 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a fail-proof strategy for an aircraft to get right up to an s-400 system, but it involves several hundred miles of taxiing, and looking at GR's previous history of that kind of thing, it's probably not a go-er. Maybe Matrix can get in there, like only an RAF pilot could, only climbing when he has to put his wheels down.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
lol rgr
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 2 жыл бұрын
*attempts to taxi a combat aircraft several miles into an S-400 site* *gets overtaken on the motorway by an S-400 supply truck and some confused Russians behind the wheel.*
@theafro
@theafro 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stoney3K Judging by recent evidence, getting russian trucks anywhere might be more difficult than it first appears..
@HauntedXXXPancake
@HauntedXXXPancake 2 жыл бұрын
B2 : "If you Navy Boys 'bout done playing grab-ass down there, I'm ready to show you what 16 times 1.2 Megatons can do, Yeeeehaw ! ... Over."
@saintuk70
@saintuk70 2 жыл бұрын
This is good stuff.....just like lovely haggis and black pudding. Love it.
@schweizerluchs7146
@schweizerluchs7146 2 жыл бұрын
9:45 Not entirely true. Only US Navy have retired their Legacy Hornet fleet. Legacy Hornets are still being used by the USMC. They are gonna upgrade and keep them till around 2030 in Service!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@blueberrywilbur315
@blueberrywilbur315 2 жыл бұрын
Damn even the Russian bots got butt hurt about this🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Wintelburst
@Wintelburst 2 жыл бұрын
This was very entertaining.
@zacleaning7941
@zacleaning7941 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to meat you guys at Rita
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
rgr
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a great night!
@torjones1701
@torjones1701 2 жыл бұрын
"And Pakistan has something special up their sleeve." That's an odd place to keep it...
@loganstevens2411
@loganstevens2411 2 жыл бұрын
Cap, in regards to the US still using Legacy Hornets anymore; the USN strictly uses all Super Hornets and F-35s, but there are still a handful of USMC squadrons flying Legacy Hornets. However they are being replaced by F-35s as well.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@ohiobrian8993
@ohiobrian8993 2 жыл бұрын
As a USAF EW specialist, you are not using USAF, RAF, or NATO tactics. You start with F18 Growlers
@AB-ng7go
@AB-ng7go 2 жыл бұрын
and russian EW would have neutralized all your EW
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Agree BUT offensive EW not modelled in the simulation.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-ng7go how does that work?
@AB-ng7go
@AB-ng7go 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD you never heard of jamming?
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
@ChucksSEADnDEAD 2 жыл бұрын
@@AB-ng7go Jamming doesn't neutralize EW. And jamming in itself creates a beacon for missiles to switch to home-on-jam. An EA-6B was almost shot down at a training range by a F-14 Tomcat because they wanted to test the AIM-54 Phoenix on two drones while being radar jammed. The first Phoenix tracked the drone despite jamming so it worked fine. The second Phoenix detected the source of the jamming and instead of heading for the second target drone, it automatically switched to home-on-jam and started heading towards the EA-6B. They had to shut down the jammer and fly away from the area because even the inert missile would have crashed into the aircraft at supersonic speed and destroyed it.
@ziggystardink9389
@ziggystardink9389 2 жыл бұрын
Just use HIMARS. Apparently they are unable to intercept them. I have a feeling in real life the S400 is not what they say it is and DCS is WAY to powerful.
@Mystical922
@Mystical922 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing S400 shot at was by accident in Sevastopol at the air
@ser43_OLDC
@ser43_OLDC 2 жыл бұрын
For shooting down long range rocket artillery you need systems like Tunguska, Tor, Pansirt Iron Dome cloose to the target S400 S300 and similar Sam's are desing for shooting down planes cruise misiles and similar stuff Not because they can't but just because those types of attacks are fast and ''cloose to the target'' meaning that the SAM doenst have time to react and destroy the rockets because the SAM are placed several miles far away
@Tesla34000
@Tesla34000 2 жыл бұрын
I think your countrymen should thank God you are not in charge of army of your country.. :)
@ziggystardink9389
@ziggystardink9389 2 жыл бұрын
@@ser43_OLDC I get that. There are articles about why the HIMARS rockets are getting thru and it is being pointed out that RU forces are depending too heavily on S300 and S400 sites to stop the rockets. The close in systems that the RU uses are not designed ( or not actually capable) of hitting the rockets. Iron Dome and CRAM were designed and have been real world proven to work in the manner you are talking about. Funny enough those systems would ending in UA LONG before RU would ever have a comparable system due to who created them.
@haythemsandel8303
@haythemsandel8303 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of Telegram pics of HIMARS missiles shot down by Buk-M2 and Pantsirs.
@imyourdad2458
@imyourdad2458 2 жыл бұрын
In real life scenario,they can only shoot down slow moving UAVs (like bayraktars). They couldn't defend their ship moskhva,snake island or the recent arms depot at Kherson struck by HIMARS.
@EvolvedTactical
@EvolvedTactical 2 жыл бұрын
I loved watching this video. Lots of coordination, well executed. Congrats, even if the stupid S400 is stupid. And for the record, there are still Legacy Hornets in the US inventory. Thr Marine Corps has refused to get Super Bugs, instead waiting to eventually switch all their Hornet squadrons for Fz35s.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
thx
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 2 жыл бұрын
May I make a suggestion? Modern day WWII style SAS raid. Make an S400 site with its ground defenses in Arma 3. Fly either a Huey or C-130 (in DCS) as close to the S400 as you can and either land or airdrop a few vehicles. However far you are from the site in DCS is how far your insertion point is in Arma. Make your way there on the ground, demo the site, and then try to extract.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@Michael-rg7mx
@Michael-rg7mx 2 жыл бұрын
There was a 70's TV show about the special forces in jeeps. They had machine guns mounted on pedestal. They ran around north Africa during the first years of ww2.
@ryanpayne7707
@ryanpayne7707 2 жыл бұрын
2:42: Yes, RQ-170. And yes, anti-satellite missiles.
@jaxompol224
@jaxompol224 2 жыл бұрын
harms would be good mixed in with the bogs hit from different directions even 2 extra bogs shooting would maybe tip the balence.
@raymondyee2008
@raymondyee2008 2 жыл бұрын
“Top Gun Maverick” vibes here.
@willielinks3865
@willielinks3865 2 жыл бұрын
There's a channel called HypOps that shows how the US would attack a S400 site with just a basic CSG. It's a great video if you wanna check it out
@KortanaDCS
@KortanaDCS 2 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic video. I honestly think we are going to have to create something of that scale to actually overwhelm the defenses.
@willielinks3865
@willielinks3865 2 жыл бұрын
@@KortanaDCS yeah it's fun watching y'all come up with different ways to defeat it within the limits of DCS. Only so much you can do you know. Either way it'll lose a lot of money and munitions to destroy the site
@pogo1140
@pogo1140 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is that DCS does not model offensive ecm. Something that would be in full use.
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh. I should have read your post before I wrote it all over again
@hippoace
@hippoace 2 жыл бұрын
Does it model defensive ECM?
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
@@hippoace Nope. No ECCM in dcs at all.
@mattboggs6304
@mattboggs6304 2 жыл бұрын
Errrbody Maverick until the S-400s start flying.
@shmevan_
@shmevan_ 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Simba Wimba 😢😭😢😭🤣🤣🤣
@shmevan_
@shmevan_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@TeenTeenFpv 🤣🤣🤣🤣 HE'S TRYING HIS BEST!
@holdmybeer3931
@holdmybeer3931 2 жыл бұрын
Fck the long eared goat thing made me laugh😂😂😂😂
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Stop pulling those dang ears!
@seanpreston3653
@seanpreston3653 2 жыл бұрын
And just a thought, fire half payload from one vector and half from another and at different altitude . Fire low fire high of course death mission
@trevortaylor5501
@trevortaylor5501 2 жыл бұрын
The more dangerous system is the 350, it's brand new though. Looks completely different. Fills a gap in defense.
@WhiteHatH4x0r
@WhiteHatH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын
That DCS skin looks amazing 😻
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe try again but with the Tomahawks coming from different directions? Truthfully, we would use low observable munitions like the JASM-ER for this I think. Far less time to engage. But, you use what you got. Could have used JSOWs if you had f-35s or EW support to get the f-18s close. Can the F-35 mod carry JSOW?
@schweizerluchs7146
@schweizerluchs7146 2 жыл бұрын
JASSM-ER yup
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
We did test with JSOWs from hornets a few weeks ago, but S300-400 shoots them down.
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers I’ll check it out. Did you guys use the TALDS like this time? May just not be possible without coordinated EW
@RuralSurvivalLLC
@RuralSurvivalLLC 2 жыл бұрын
Funniest video yet! Thank you!
@forMacguyver
@forMacguyver 2 жыл бұрын
So close !
@AdamWalkLikeSuicide
@AdamWalkLikeSuicide 2 жыл бұрын
Good effort. Need more cruise missiles.
@stevenvandenbosch5528
@stevenvandenbosch5528 2 жыл бұрын
There would be short an medium range systems spread out in the area between the site and the coast.
@vertigoalopolus
@vertigoalopolus 2 жыл бұрын
That isnt really true. Those systems cost a lot, and need to be used to defend specific potential targets.
@stevenvandenbosch5528
@stevenvandenbosch5528 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertigoalopolus did you have a look at the map? there"s 2 airfileds between the border and the S-400 locqtion, nevermind other army barracks.
@lohrtom
@lohrtom 2 жыл бұрын
TALDs are vastly underused in DCS
@Darthybuddy
@Darthybuddy 2 жыл бұрын
They were only just around a week ago for the hornets. Idk if the f-14 had them before this.
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darthybuddy F14 has had them but they don't work great (or at least they didn't the last time I used them) only some air defenses actually interact with it and ai aircraft ignore them entirely.
@lohrtom
@lohrtom 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darthybuddy thanks. Hope to see them used more often
@muller_cj3941
@muller_cj3941 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the Video but do wonder if the Russian systems are somewhat over hyped, The evidence coming from Ukraine especially about Panstir is that it is not as billed, It could not intercept Single Artillery Shells or drones over snake Island. The Ukrainians have also hit an Airbase with HIMARs M31s twice, which is protected by S400 and Panstir according to UAF.
@Rover200Power
@Rover200Power 2 жыл бұрын
The S-400 was taken out, so it couldn't even protect itself.
@muller_cj3941
@muller_cj3941 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rover200Power yes I read that but as there no good battle damage assesment to back up the claim, I am still on the fence, if it is true or one of the wartime claims
@ser43_OLDC
@ser43_OLDC 2 жыл бұрын
All systems in DCS are overhyped
@AB-ng7go
@AB-ng7go 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rover200Power s400 was never taken out. stop making things up
@chrispage9973
@chrispage9973 2 жыл бұрын
The 16th is my birthday! Super rad!
@brianstrandberg9346
@brianstrandberg9346 2 жыл бұрын
Need to do this in a hilly area so you can use terrain making to get there.
@Tomcat5837
@Tomcat5837 2 жыл бұрын
The USMC are still using legacy hornets.
@castlekingside76
@castlekingside76 2 жыл бұрын
It also seems that they are useless against rockets as well. HIMARS took out 20 Russian sites in the last 48 hours. Surely some of the sites had air defense.
@cannon3267
@cannon3267 2 жыл бұрын
fun videos, love watching you guys try diong it the hard way. real world war, would run a few himars up to the saudi boarder and level the place. S-400/300, as seen reciently in ukraine, are defenseless against small surface to surface rockets.
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a source for your claim? I haven’t heard of any HIMARS destroying S400s. I have heard or at least 4 HIMARS being destroyed by Russia in Ukraine though!
@RuralSurvivalLLC
@RuralSurvivalLLC 2 жыл бұрын
Possible method to defeat S400: 1980s/1990s SLBM targeting all 10 warheads to drop at 45 mile increments in a straight line to the S400s beginning at 400 miles out.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously you could also Minuteman it from the Nevada desert. But did they even make ballistic missiles with conventional payloads? Because if they did those would really be a viable option.
@ThatSpyOutside
@ThatSpyOutside 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the real joint stick for the F-16
@michaelmcpherson5406
@michaelmcpherson5406 2 жыл бұрын
Love the show!
@tiadiad
@tiadiad 2 жыл бұрын
That should read: Not so topgun. 5:20 This guy drinks: 7:07
@mikesmith-wk7vy
@mikesmith-wk7vy 2 жыл бұрын
i think there are still quite a few legacy f18s left
@mot13ymotley55
@mot13ymotley55 2 жыл бұрын
Can't u taxi down the b roads to the target .they won't be expecting that
@M3PH11
@M3PH11 2 жыл бұрын
31:38 Maybe if it's 56AD and the romans are still building the roads.
@cockatoo010
@cockatoo010 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe throw some F35Cs into the mix? Now that they are starting to make their way into VFAs
@kgp1958
@kgp1958 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the VLS sub....at least 12 more thawks.
@sirnodrick222
@sirnodrick222 2 жыл бұрын
So, GR Meet up at RIAT. Saturday 16th July, at 10am. Where is the meeting point? RAF Fairford is a huge place.
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 2 жыл бұрын
Since the Tald impersonates the launch vehicle, does that mean it will imitate the F-35C?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
hmmm invisible decoy?
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Would be interesting to see, or NOT see LOL
@Darthybuddy
@Darthybuddy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure it can be programmed for whatever you want it to be irl. So an f-35 firing off decoys could realistically impersonate a whole bomber fleet with little trouble.
@seanpreston3653
@seanpreston3653 2 жыл бұрын
After first missiles. Good 2nd plan Capt there getting hit I think
@Unknown-th8hx
@Unknown-th8hx 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you guys should have taken The F-18's in at the same time as everything else would've had better chance🙃😆
@vertigoalopolus
@vertigoalopolus 2 жыл бұрын
They were hoping to deplete the SAM ammo, which didnt happen, so that wouldnt have helped.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertigoalopolus lol how can you say it wouldn't help? If they would have went in at the same time as the Tomahawks and decoys they would've stood a MUCH better chance running in the way they did at the end instead of waiting for everything to be destroyed freeing up the radar's to focus solely on them a radar that can only target so many incoming ordinance/bogies. So yeah it would absolutely have helped to go in low with The Hornet's while the S-400 & or Pantsir IADS are tied up defending themselves from decoys and Tomahawks😆✌
@vertigoalopolus
@vertigoalopolus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Anarchy_420 The point was to decoy away from the Tomahawks, not have them engaged. If they are targeted, the mission is over. Yes, with the real F18's targetable also, there would have been an improved chance. But it wouldnt be much.
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertigoalopolus I understand what your saying how that may defeat the purpose of what they were trying to accomplish or w.e, my argument was simply it would have been better for their health to have gone in undercover from everything else instead of waiting until it was all gone and then runnin in with no cover so to speak again I understand why they waited bc they were waiting for the results lol
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertigoalopolus Thank you! Lol we can agree it would have helped, just have to agree to disagree about how much it would have benefited them... They did make it kinda close ;)
@SukhoyBoy4113
@SukhoyBoy4113 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine S500, and the s600 is in RnD
@ChaplainDaveSparks
@ChaplainDaveSparks 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there's a flaw in my logic somewhere, but if AWACS can guide missiles to their target, why not arm AWACS with some missiles of its own? Is it a weight limitation?
@ey6008
@ey6008 2 жыл бұрын
Everything has to have an answer
@myyoutubename152
@myyoutubename152 2 жыл бұрын
Simulate a HIMARS attack, since apparently the S400 can't hit its GMLRS shells in the real world.
@AB-ng7go
@AB-ng7go 2 жыл бұрын
himars are garbage. the HIMARS have zero accuracy as they have not been able to hit a single military target, only civilian homes. hard to simulate such an attack as the HIMARS would just miss
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
rgr
@trottheblackdog
@trottheblackdog 2 жыл бұрын
Ich bin ein valued viewer!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@oldfashionedwrx3574
@oldfashionedwrx3574 2 жыл бұрын
Just use artillery against s400. Cheap drones that are cheaper than each missile. Very easy to beat with attrition. Maybe fire off HARMs that are old about to expire. Those s400 missiles are extremely expensive
@ey6008
@ey6008 2 жыл бұрын
Think outside the box is the obvious answer, a long range electronic jammer?
@lucaskulmann
@lucaskulmann 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder how an sr-71 would do over an sa-400 iads
@schweizerluchs7146
@schweizerluchs7146 2 жыл бұрын
boom... Its not a viable option nowadays
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Tried it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l6mjldKArJa1hWg.html
@chetnash5991
@chetnash5991 2 жыл бұрын
Nice idea. How many more decoys would you need to overcome the site?
@chetnash5991
@chetnash5991 2 жыл бұрын
Decoys cost less than jets and pilots. Time to build more
@robbarrett4038
@robbarrett4038 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are seriously over exaggerating Russian equipment, after what's been happening in Ukraine, I think you ned to cut the capabilities of Russian equipment by about 60%, its utter crap, run without maintenance and operated by undereducated drunks
@9thsfarchangel
@9thsfarchangel 2 жыл бұрын
Me thinks you drink too much kool-aid.
@paulwebb3242
@paulwebb3242 2 жыл бұрын
@@9thsfarchangel I think his comment was dead on accurate. Soviet/Russian equipment has always been touted as the best. Most of it is crap and all of it is unmaintained.
@robbarrett4038
@robbarrett4038 2 жыл бұрын
@@9thsfarchangel Really, you think?
@seanpreston3653
@seanpreston3653 2 жыл бұрын
And my text is real time watching
@shauryasingh8447
@shauryasingh8447 2 жыл бұрын
How about a Us combined arms assault on S400 , usaf , army with himars and naval attack from sea?????
@holdmybeer3931
@holdmybeer3931 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a corruption and fizzle factor in the settings lol
@bluesfool1
@bluesfool1 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all needed some EF-111’s …..maybe??
@zainredding3476
@zainredding3476 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to live stream the meet up?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Neg but will make a vid.
@meltonkentjr1226
@meltonkentjr1226 2 жыл бұрын
Cap, I enjoy the videos you guys (and gal, Kortana!...lol) put out and would like to see if ya'll would redo a video from a while back. The video was about the movie, "Red Dawn", which I watched as a kid. I believe that the mission debrief was considered 50/50 because The Wolverines were evacuated but the other parameters of the mission wasn't successful. Could your Team redo that mission and see if we could defeat the Reds and regain our country? Thanks a bunch!
@ey6008
@ey6008 2 жыл бұрын
A type of ray-gun to “fry” the command electronics from within?
@mikeck4609
@mikeck4609 2 жыл бұрын
Would an actualS-400 system have over 100 missles to be able to take down the 72 TALDS, f-18s and Tomahawks ? I don’t know much about it
@Echo4Sierra4160
@Echo4Sierra4160 2 жыл бұрын
An EA-18 Growler would help
@andrewsmall6834
@andrewsmall6834 2 жыл бұрын
What about the US AGM-158 JASSM against the S 400? It's a super stealthy long range cruise missile and the results would be interesting especially with multiple launched.
@Stinger522
@Stinger522 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think JASSM is in the game. Eagle Dynamics needs to get it in the game because beyond the F-22, F-35, and hypersonics, there isn't much else in the game that stands a chance against it.
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stinger522 That's not true, the F15E. Hopefully it'll be out in the next few months and each one can carry 20 gbu39 glide bombs. That means 10 gr dudes can launch 200 glide bombs simultaneously which will 100% overwhelm this site.
@MICLakVER
@MICLakVER 2 жыл бұрын
S-400 HAS HYPERSONIC MISSILE TO KILL THEM
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because the specs are classified and any attempt to simulate it would just be an educated guess bordering on fiction?
@92HazelMocha
@92HazelMocha 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stoney3K especially true with anything "stealth" all we can really do is make complete guesses.
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 2 жыл бұрын
Swedish pots of gold? You have to put those together yourself?
@UkDave3856
@UkDave3856 2 жыл бұрын
Fiendish Kortana
@FalcoGer
@FalcoGer 2 жыл бұрын
Can a ground force strike defeat the s400 net? Just blow it up with indirect fire weapons
@iankphone
@iankphone 2 жыл бұрын
Just HIMARS it. 🤣 Does DCS allow the simulation of unpaid hungry Russian conscript grunts flipping gear on ebay?
@grimreapers
@grimreapers 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly not that realistic.
@ey6008
@ey6008 2 жыл бұрын
Need as way to load ray guns onto drones, or onto a literal “swarm”
@ey6008
@ey6008 2 жыл бұрын
Can missiles be built inside missiles just as cluster bombs so they can swamp the areas defence
@1966babysnakes
@1966babysnakes 2 жыл бұрын
Haa haa... the goat!
@mikesmith-wk7vy
@mikesmith-wk7vy 2 жыл бұрын
i think Harms would help to have
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