Wouldn’t two 70lb draw bows (cheap or expensive) largely do the same thing? I’d imagine the price difference is more relative to the archer in terms of materials, let off, carry weight, etc
@pampen3384 ай бұрын
@@Plinian no. speed i also affected by the cams, limbs and a bit for the strings. But draw length is affecting a bows speed the most
@Plinian4 ай бұрын
@@pampen338 That is true, but ideally I wouldn’t think that would be a variable if you’re shooting 2 bows setup for the same person’s length of draw. Or does the limb length/geometry affect that regardless if the draw is the same? Not asking to be a dick. I’m genuinely curious.
@zacknelson9164 ай бұрын
Can you do a long form video covering the differences between the two?
@user-kf1ok7wf9c4 ай бұрын
Should try to find bodkin type heads. They’re designed for medieval armor so I feel like they’d be cool to see
@JS-is1sb4 ай бұрын
A $300 blackout with a 70lb draw could do the same thing as the $2000 bow
@tryagainandagain15414 ай бұрын
Yea so can a homemade wooden long bow of 150lb draw, but much like 70lb who tf wants to hold that in a aimed position for any amount of time.
@JS-is1sb4 ай бұрын
@@tryagainandagain1541 😂 true
@Gimlison-of-Glóin4 ай бұрын
@@JS-is1sbi think the first bows may have done better if the arrow head was the same as the last one (I am not an expert on the matter)
@Dismem4 ай бұрын
Gay
@TrCr-bv8cw4 ай бұрын
@@tryagainandagain1541 I do when there’s a Tatonka 20 yards up wind… 🦌
@jackharpe95472 ай бұрын
I'd be standing a little farther away
@jeepsrtslw2 ай бұрын
And be wearing glasses
@user-mo8zo6qk4o2 ай бұрын
He’s not very smart
@silverchain92channelАй бұрын
Smort
@Freezer0034 ай бұрын
Lets be honest. The $2k bow is actually a hoyt powermax that is $750 brand new. $350 on ebay.
@Erick-ie8ll4 ай бұрын
I was just about to say this lol. If he paid 2k for that setup he got scammed.
@jakeklemmer2994 ай бұрын
Overpayed on both of them if he’s not lying lmfao
@mhale454 ай бұрын
750 with or without sights and stabilizers and everything cus my pse was like 450 or so without and like 6-700 with sights and everything
@ericappleget89204 ай бұрын
When he said 2k dollar now they showed a picture of the RX8 lol and he’s clearly shooting a power max or a Torrex. Whichever lol. This dude is a joke lol
@tremoss95714 ай бұрын
Glad somebody said it !!
@alexchallinor864 ай бұрын
Price has nothing to do with it when they are set to different pounds!
@bennetterfield57204 ай бұрын
Field tip would work better against armor. Look at how bodkin points are very narrow to pierce mail or get into gaps in armor. Broad head is useful against unarmored
@workhardplayhard8013 ай бұрын
Exactly not to mention they could be easily cast and didn't require much further refinement.
@Nick-hi9gx2 ай бұрын
@@workhardplayhard801 How to properly harden them to a point that they could penetrate thin plate took a lot of refinement.
@user-wl4xi2pf7pАй бұрын
Thank you!
@michaelbushey27874 ай бұрын
Not a 2000 dollar bow by any means. Maybe 500. Thats like at least 10 years old
@michaelstevenson20904 ай бұрын
Imagine getting hit by the arrow, realizing your hit but your not dying, then you can’t get the helmet off because the arrow is keeping your head inside 💀
@linwoodvalentine76932 ай бұрын
Wild
@Potato-pl5cr4 ай бұрын
Question is, are they the same draw weight?
@EdibleOutdoors3 ай бұрын
Nope.
@jarlnils4353 ай бұрын
A zero dollar homemade longbow with enough lbs would outperform both of these expensive toys.
@christopherkrog63674 ай бұрын
Put it right on center like you did with the expensive bow instead off center like the first one
@UncannyLiving4 ай бұрын
American soldiers were getting killed by everything including feathers during the vietnam war, they got slaughtered by farmers, some with Aks, some with sticks and stones. I pray for all American men forced into Vietnam, one of America's most humiliating and disgraceful mistakes
@joshywashy28964 ай бұрын
@@UncannyLivingfound the bot
@brennonlewis4 ай бұрын
@@UncannyLivingMy neighbor is a Vietnam veteran, he's proud of his military service but not of his time in country
@grapefrut13373 ай бұрын
He used 2 completely different arrows😂
@endershadow2314 ай бұрын
Depend where you hit it angles are everything
@plkyxander37804 ай бұрын
Pause
@minkorrh2 ай бұрын
Nobody else seems to notice this ENORMOUS FACT. The first 2 shots were off to the left and higher, with a definite angle of the helmet making them glance off. The target needs to be completely flat.
@anynonymous15854 ай бұрын
Broadhead: aight imma go see what that plane 20,000 feet up there’s doin
@zoeysmith30092 ай бұрын
It's about poundage, broader head and lastly an aluminum arrow. Carbon fiber isn't ment to peirce armor.
@basketballa59504 ай бұрын
Now get the arrows Rambo used lmao
@lorenzo13614 ай бұрын
Broad head and field point are just like hollow point and armor piercing bullets. First is good on unarmored targets and can't penetrate armor, second penetrates armor but doesn't damage the target as much as first
@alexanderhamilton85852 ай бұрын
That’s not a real helmet. It’s just the liner.
@wambamthankumam2 ай бұрын
It's not about the price it's about the draw weight
@mmadrigal86482 ай бұрын
I don't care how much the bows cost. What is their draw weight? How far are you from the target? How many grains are the arrows?
@Cheeselover76Ай бұрын
Man imagine going back in time to a medieval battle with one of these helmets and start tanking arrows like you're the Juggernaut or something.
@howitzeroutdoors3 ай бұрын
Maybe $10 safety glasses would’ve been a good investment.
@workhardplayhard8013 ай бұрын
Arrow heads designed to penetrate armor are heavy square blocky points for a couple of reasons , easily made & very effective. Use those, and you'll find different results.
@raramr.84534 ай бұрын
Dude looks like he plays with corn holes
@ahmetisk5568Ай бұрын
Now we know why Rambo used a bow
@lemagicbaguette19173 ай бұрын
This is what made the Manchurian bow so valuable.
@Jester23614 ай бұрын
It came back at us ahahahahahhaha lol Darwin Award right there
@CrawfordPerry2104 ай бұрын
Its more about the drawforce than price
@minkorrh2 ай бұрын
No, it's about hitting the EXACT same spot to create an accurate comparison, which he didn't do. Helmets are curved, targets are flat.
@Willow_69962 ай бұрын
The price of the bow doesn’t mean shit the only things that matter are the draw weight and it’s power and the arrow head
@minkorrh2 ай бұрын
You also hit more 'centered' with the expensive bow. This will definitely have an impact on the penetration as opposed to just glancing off. Do the test on a piece of flat sheet metal that has no curves.
@BrokenNoahАй бұрын
Yeah but why does the mannequin have a magnificent mustache
@HunterAyres4 ай бұрын
You know that if a random pedestrian happens to be walking in the wrong place he won’t go home and watch Netflix
@redraven16044 ай бұрын
Price & draw weight aren’t necessarily related & you need a Bodkin head on those arrows. Broadheads are for severing blood vessels & I’ve never seen an metallurgically armoured herbivore.
@timothyharris11253 ай бұрын
exploding tips
@omegaz3393Ай бұрын
$200 or $10,000 bow. Makes no difference. It's the draw that counts and the angle it hits at. Also, these are compound bows and those I'm familiar with would break between 40% to 60% of draw. So a 70# draw may only require 40# if your holding draw position.
@WhydidImakethis-hr5im3 ай бұрын
Also these helmets were meant to stop shrapnel from artillery shells and grenades still great video 👍👍
@Jamesray97Ай бұрын
The draw is absolutely more on the expensive one
@kickstand84754 ай бұрын
Vietnam era helmets we're left over from world war II
@_Empty-Box_4 ай бұрын
2k bow broadhead: *DOIIIIIIOOOINGGGG*
@TheArtisticAlchemist3 ай бұрын
Makes sense the broadhead failed bigger surface area on the tip vs the more narrow point on the other
@andrewmonahan32763 ай бұрын
You may have strain hardened the helmet with the initial arrow
@vui35154 ай бұрын
no wonder they won and were yelling "SCOREDBOARD!"
@Thnielsen854 ай бұрын
The price of the bow has nothing to do with the penetrating power. It's the poundage that makes the difference.
@timothyharris11253 ай бұрын
Would go with the field point at a high draw weight (50-70 lbs), the narrower the field point, the better the penetration from the look of it.
@horenzodipartendo82253 ай бұрын
The second broadhead hit the climax of the indent, which probably gave it more resistance than the flat part
@ep33894 ай бұрын
You have to use a solid broadhead like an iron will. Those broadheads that are vented like that are constantly being gound in bones
@brendankwock2598Ай бұрын
I wanna buy my first compound bow any recommendations?
@LionAstrology4 ай бұрын
You need Bodkins with sockets..inserts in carbon shafts won't do it...also you have to get the pob forward. I could get the $200 to get through easy. I could do it with a 50 pound recurve 28" draw.
@Codbeast1014 ай бұрын
200$ bow, maybe. 2000$ bow? Probably not.
@archery.customs4 ай бұрын
You should let me shoot it with my 2000lb ballista I'm building rn 😂
@guy3nder5293 ай бұрын
I'd call this a 4/4 for the helmet. Even the one that penetrated didn't touch the guy's head
@Fires_Stuff4 ай бұрын
This is why they didn’t use bows in Vietnam.
@cptweed37174 ай бұрын
The ar 15 was made to shoot through a mans helmet at 1200 yards. - beto
@punished_venom_snake3 ай бұрын
Bowmen were looked upon with absolute terror because warbows with good solid heads could punch through armor
@punker87163 ай бұрын
No lol. Arrows defeat modern armour.
@SamuraiShawn-oe9nm4 ай бұрын
Well that guy lives
@lucindafugate55724 ай бұрын
Lowkey thought this was coach rac for a sec
@DamonHowattHunter4 ай бұрын
They make broadheads with solid steel that wont fold over like that one.
@Soge-Kid4 ай бұрын
You should try a recurve bow instead there stronger not to mention the bow you had was meant for either hunting or sport but if in order to have a war bow the draw back needs to be 70lbs+
@isaiahswanson15873 ай бұрын
In no world is that a 2 thousand dollar bow
@the_neo_crusader3 ай бұрын
Well they are designed to stop shrapnel so that makes sense
@terriblebats74254 ай бұрын
Imagine comparing the price when what really matters is drawback weight
@randominterestingthings64843 ай бұрын
You used a broadhead meant for slicing and cutting. And then a head meant for piercing
@rdw75454 ай бұрын
field point is armor piercing like medieval bodkin point broadhead point is flesh piercing
@neur0lgic344 ай бұрын
This is exactly why helmets are useless they can't even stop a arrow.
@tomfoster36194 ай бұрын
No way that old Hoyt is 2 grand
@user-ii6np7tu6u4 ай бұрын
Powermax is like a decade old "budget" bow
@albertw74422 ай бұрын
Not cutting flesh or bone, field point has more kinetic energy. Dumb test, learn physics.
@jakepatton80624 ай бұрын
Your “$2,000” bow is the beginner bow in hours line up. 650 dollar bow
@TheScout554Ай бұрын
use a 2k bow on a 5k orignal M1 helmet good idea
@gabrielegatti79494 ай бұрын
Why is he shocked about the fact that the broadhead did not go through They are not designed to penetrate hard targets
@YMS121214 ай бұрын
Yes they are
@plkyxander37804 ай бұрын
@@YMS12121buddy, no they are not, broad means wide, and if you want to penetrate something, you want it to be skinnier so that it squeezes in easier.
@YMS121214 ай бұрын
@@plkyxander3780 you know they made certain types of broad heads to penetrate chain mail in the mid evil times right ? I guess one could argue and say they were points and not broad heads . Single bevel broad heads are also designed to be able to have a better chance break through hard stuff like bone . Ive killed several bulls and deer with my bow I get there designed to cut they can also go through hard targets like bone
@huntyyoug3 ай бұрын
That second bow is not $2000. That is a women’s Hoyt
@Paulsmith-lr1kgАй бұрын
Next time do a weight comparison. 30 lbs verses 70 lbs is a hell of alot of speed and weight
@banjosandbullets4 ай бұрын
Switch to aluminum arrows
@NepetaLeijonАй бұрын
that bounce back seems really fukin unsafe lmao
@thespartanamongus11214 ай бұрын
It's funny how the first arrow on the $200 bow hit the helmet on an angled section and failed to penetrate (TOTALLY unexpected), while the fiest arrow on the $2,000 bow hit center on and punched through. Where you hit matters, anyone can tell you that.
@larryflint8351Ай бұрын
thats extremely dangerous to stand that close
@MarkTheDrunkenSailor4 ай бұрын
Its crazy cuz those things are meant to stop shrapnel
@alexanderhamilton85852 ай бұрын
That’s just the liner of an M-1 helmet. Put the steel pot on it. Then try it.
@patrickmore93414 ай бұрын
Why are you using the cost rather than the draw weight since that's what would actually matter to a test like this?
@Toddler_MakerАй бұрын
Even if it's 20.000$ bow, you can't pen E.R.A armor
@williamlewis28963 ай бұрын
Grim reaper broad heads will go through a 55 gallon drum easy
@redbarret1233 ай бұрын
Next time you do this test, instead of using a broadhead, use a number 3 Bodkin. You will fair much better 👍
@DarkSins7134 ай бұрын
GreenArrow would had done it
@FranticSpawn4 ай бұрын
what is the pull difference in the bows?
@MrLoobu2 ай бұрын
How does the price of the bow have anything to do with anything?
@stevenmichel-cdhs16733 ай бұрын
Broadhead choice wasn’t best. Try something that plows through bone.
@user-eb7di1oj7e21 күн бұрын
John rambo used 2000bucks against farmers 💀
@phillipporter2628Ай бұрын
Use a decent broadhead would help.
@Thoroughly_Wet4 ай бұрын
Price of the bows doesn't matter as much as the draw weight 😐
@madscottwallace71952 ай бұрын
Why are you suprosed by the broad head dude? Thats for flesh not armor. Achers in medeval times used bodkin tipped arrows against knights for a reason. An incredible amount of force on a very small tip.
@windsweptjoe4423 ай бұрын
of course a compound bow shooter has no idea about draw weight. Next time, try a bow that hasn't got training wheels on it.
@littlebitofeverything6523 ай бұрын
What's the total grain on arrow on expensive bow
@wesb4060Ай бұрын
draw weight on cheap bow was way less than the expensive bow
@scottlindholm55683 ай бұрын
All about the draw weight not the cost of the training wheels bow
@jonathanmillichip92962 ай бұрын
Use a better broadhead for starters
@slyllamademon26524 ай бұрын
You don’t know how enough about arrowheads. Look up bodkin points and try to find something that works like that. They’re effectively armor piercing ammo for a bow.
@STBS154Ай бұрын
I would like to see the budget now be a Mathew’s mission radik VS a Mathew’s lift 33
@aquaterrafootage95474 ай бұрын
No safety glasses lol
@user-fz2dk7wg5j3 ай бұрын
That “200 dollar” bow is 79 at academy
@williammyers72313 ай бұрын
Price has nothing to do with it, What poundage is each bow?????