Can electric cars handle the cold? Tesla Winter Experience

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Can electric cars handle the cold? Tesla Winter Experience | Fully Charged

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Many of our viewers already know a great deal about electric vehicles but if you’re new to this exciting technology and you’re looking to understand more, this latest episode might help dispel any concerns you may have…
Can you drive electric cars on ice?
Which handles winter conditions better? EV vs ICE!
Before the lockdown, Andy Torbet put the much publicised Tesla Model 3 and Tesla Model S P90D electric cars through an extreme winter conditions test.
Granted, most of us don’t need to drive across frozen lakes in Northern Sweden to get to work, but as Andy says: if an electric car can handle conditions like these, it shows that they can handle pretty much anything the majority of us will face.
This is Andy Torbet’s first solo episode for Fully Charged and we’re chuffed to have him as part of the team. If Andy can handle a shoot in conditions like these, it shows that he can handle pretty much anything we throw at him. (Woolly) hats off to him!
“From ice driving slaloms, braking boxes, obstacle avoidance and an ice race-track this was about as tough a test for driving in winter conditions as you’ll get. I did also take the Tesla out on the normal snow-covered roads to see how it felt in real world conditions.
We look at some of the concerns about EVs in winter but also why an EV may actually be better and safer when driving in the ice and snow.
So can you drive a Tesla on ice, does an electric work in the cold, is an EV safe in winter? - tune in to find out.
Enjoy. I did.”
- Andy Torbet
Let us know in the comments the things you’d like to see Andy tackle in future episodes, he's already got his eyes on episodes on e-bikes, electric motorbikes and electric vans!
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Presented by Andy Torbet @andytorbet
Shot by Andrew Davies and George Collings
Edited by George Collings and Benjamin Bruton-Cox @brutoncox
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@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

A warm welcome in cold conditions to one of our new presenters, Andy Torbet - he joins Robert Llewellyn, Rory Reid, Chelsea Sexton, Helen Czerski and Maddie Moate, as Fully Charged aims to cover clean energy, electric cars and electric vehicles of all shapes & sizes. Andy's brief will include e-bikes, electric motorbikes and electric vans, as well as a few less conventional challenges. We started him off with a trip to Sweden (pre-lockdown), where he got to test his very particular skillset in a Tesla on an ice lake. If you like this, please subscribe and/or visit www.FullyCharged.Show.

@adsheff 4 жыл бұрын

Nice addition!

@bangerbangerbro 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize or expect Rory Reid to be involved. He's the one from Top Gear right?

@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

@@bangerbangerbro Correct!

@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

He was yes

@atyourservice 4 жыл бұрын

@@fullychargedshow What do you mean 'he was' ? What happened ? He is not super hot anymore or something more serious ? Is it ... Covid 19 ? OMG ! HE IS DEAD !

@Fartblaster 4 жыл бұрын

I like this guy. He is humble and not patronizing. I like content like this where it takes me on a journey. KZfaq has sometimes forgotten its roots with agenda's and paid for content. This is more of what I want to see.

@no_more_free_nicks 4 жыл бұрын

Do you know that this video is an ad?

@freneticflow 4 жыл бұрын

I came here for education, and my senses were blasted by SUPER satisfying and BEAUTIFUL cinematography 😊🔥❤💯 Well played FullyCharged 👍

@sudarshankachale2634 4 жыл бұрын

exactly on point bro on point

@james.telfer 4 жыл бұрын

Look at all the lovely snoooooooooow 😲❄❄❄ Oh, and there were some Teslas hooning around on a frozen lake too - couldn't ask for more 🚗 Spot on FC & welcome Andy! 👍 PS. Did you kidnap the Top Gear film crew - that's grade A cinematography 🤓

@i_smoke_ghosts 4 жыл бұрын

such cinematography

@Mrbfgray 4 жыл бұрын

Just buy the car darnit. I'm long TSLA. ;-)

@phungyi4947 4 жыл бұрын

@@james.telfer I love all this crazy global warming!

@dansteinbach6296 4 жыл бұрын

I find a video entitled, "Can electric cars handle the cold?", to be all about how it handles with studded tires to be useless. How does it affect range? With the heater and defroster on? Does the defroster work well. First fully charged video I found disappointing. Oh well. I don't have studded tires and don't drive on frozen lakes. I am more concerned about the reduced range.

@jimdetry9420 4 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely correct. I live in Minnesota, USA and was also interested in how a Tesla could handle the cold. The title should be "Can electric cars handle ice and snow?"

@AWildBard 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, honestly it shouldn't be a first time driver. It should be someone who has years of experience driving electric cars in cold weather.

@roidroid 4 жыл бұрын

Have a peek at the KZfaq channel --Tesla Bjorn-- _Bjørn Nyland,_ he's in Norway, drives up into the arctic circle. He's been on frozen lake tracks like this a few times too. Beautiful countryside up there. He's owned a Model S, Model X (he's towed a lot of stuff!), currently has a Model 3, and occasionally borrows other EVs too. *EDIT:* oh it looks like his channel name is just his name: Bjørn Nyland. Also he's currently stuck in Thailand lol (driving an electric MG ZS, maybe hired?), he must've been visiting relatives when _the-cough-that-can't-be-named_ started closing borders. But he's still making vids as prolific as always, sometimes even remotely unlocking his Tesla back in Norway for his friends to drive & test things, very tech savvy.

@cekpi7 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, my first thought was that they are gonna test range with battery being in sub zero temps and el. loads turned on (heater, defroster, headlights etc.).

@brembodream 4 жыл бұрын

roidroid. Your right. Bjørn Nyland was very early to own a Tesla in the first place, but allso very early to upload KZfaq videos with Tesla model S roadtrips videos all over the Norway in snowstorms and all kind of demanding winter conditions. And this was in the early years when Tesla only had superchargers on Lier Gol and Lillehammer. His videos was very informative and assured me and a lot of Norwegians that a Tesla can be used as the prime family car. Teslabjoern has contributed to well over 50.000 sold Teslas in Norway, especial the critical period i 2013 and 2014 when allmost all export was sent to Norway.

@zaphodsbluecar9518 4 жыл бұрын

No discussion of AWD advantages over RWD/FWD, no discussion of preparing for winter, no battery management or pre-drive preparation (other than wiping the snow off), no discussion of tyres etc. Just a brief mention of warming the car up when plugged in. Nor any mention of the far more extreme winter testing from Audi / Mercedes / Jaguar et. al. So... nice cinematography, but basically just a Tesla ad.

@jeremyeharris 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting comment. You obviously know a bit about the topic. Can you provide a link to all that severe winter testing that Jaguar and the German brands have done on their EV's. I'd be super interested to read about what they do.

@brad450 4 жыл бұрын

Can an AWD car with winter tires handle the winter? Obviously. I think it's great Tesla brought you out on this trip however nothing was mentioned about how winter driving affects range, How much electricity it consumes keeping the battery warm. Winter driving isn't hard. Living day to day with an electric car when you can get to -40°C some days and the next town is 200km away is a totally different question. Now you may say "but that's an absurd edge case" but it's a real argument for a lot of people. I do know of one Model 3 up in Northern Quebec in that exact use case and it's fine. Just wish this video was something more than just the obviously paid trip to Northern Sweden by Tesla.

@paulmew2293 4 жыл бұрын

I was going to post the same comment. I love FC, I’m an EV convert (had an i3, now a Model 3), but I’m not sure this covered the subject well. As you say no real information about how range is affected, very Tesla-centric viewpoint (my i3 was horrific in the snow as the regen only acted on the rear wheels so was like pulling the handbrake when coming off the throttle quickly) and I think the reference to ICE car range being effected by winter conditions felt like a one-sided argument in favour of EVs, rather than the usual FC balanced argument. No issue with the new presenter, I suspect it was just an issue with it being a Tesla funded trip which limited the scope for the usual balance.

@hlogoma 4 жыл бұрын

Generally up here in Northern Wisconsin we have many trucks and semi-trucks on the road that shed ice blocks occasionally, some of which can be quite large. Most of the time you see these and can navigate such that you avoid them, but there are instances where you do not and I am afraid that these ice blocks will totally destroy your front bumper and should the block mostly survive the collision and you drive over it, it will tear apart your rear end as well. Of course this applies to ICE cars with low suspension, which I have seen happen and in either case it is an expensive outing. I think the cyber truck would be the best choice for winter driving up in the Northern latitudes.

@ssgeek4515 4 жыл бұрын

Your quite right to question if a ev is any good in snow/ice. EV'S will be a novelty for many years to come

@hobojo153alt4 4 жыл бұрын

You're likely to get around a 30% reduction in efficiency in winter. So that edge person *should* still be able to get along with a base Model 3, but LR would be strongly recommended.

@glamdring0007 3 жыл бұрын

@@hobojo153alt4 That's 30% reduction in range...if you leave the heat off. Who's going to do that in the real world ? This video glossed over the major issues effecting EVs in winter.

@RafaelNieves77 4 жыл бұрын

Indicator (Turn Signal) sound is caused by Christmas mode which also causes the snowflakes on screen. This is an easter egg which can be turned off. Kinda funny you got trolled by it throughout the S portion of the video though. Good first run!

@sadiqmohamed681 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I'm a long time Linux user, and there used to be a Christmas mode on the startup screen of the version I used to use. It had penguins in Santa hats playing in the snow!

@tabottietjen3186 4 жыл бұрын

Haha! I'm not a big fan of Christmas mode either and on my Model 3 it's not that easy to keep it on

@driveroff 4 жыл бұрын

Video production 10/10 Content 5/10

@no_more_free_nicks 4 жыл бұрын

I really expected real information on how much range reduction can be expected. Without that this video is just a Tesla ad.

@pnmoura 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome Mr. Andy Torbet. It is a pleasure to have you in fullycharged. Hope you enjoy as much as we do! Best regards...

@christineburns5246 4 жыл бұрын

Can you send him back round in a Twizy next? 😂

@elektrotehnik94 4 жыл бұрын

I'd actually love that :D

@ChrisBigBad 4 жыл бұрын

yes, and throw him out of an airplane with that thing ^^

@mareck6946 4 жыл бұрын

yes please hahaha!

@tsport100 4 жыл бұрын

Pro Tip: Start off by calibrating the audience with equipment technical specs - eg. Model 3 version (RWD, AWD, Performance) - Tires used, temps etc.

@SamBaughTV 4 жыл бұрын

My heart, how far Fully Charged has come, I can’t describe how incredible it is to see this quality of production

@johncorkery4924 4 жыл бұрын

Samuel Baugh My view is that it has gone corporate. The wonders that can be produced when you just add money. I preferred the show when it was just Robert Llewelyn trundling around in his Prius with a guest. Jonny Smith was good too but he was too much of a gear head for the powers that now run the show. Corporate group think has now added more “attractive” hosts to make it “accessible”. I fear Mr. Llewelyn’s days are numbered and that success will be the death of what was a nice little production.

@kurtwehrend8434 4 жыл бұрын

great quailty video, but very lacking on the technical details, I think most of the audience want some level of technical details

@EyesOfByes 4 жыл бұрын

As you can tell by the footage, it was a warm winter. No seriously, it was the warmest winter in like a hundred years.

@bumblebee9337 4 жыл бұрын

The presence of forests near the arctic circle is an indication of the climate.

@JohnRoss1 4 жыл бұрын

It's not cold if you can touch metal with bare hands and they don't stick. ❄️❄️

@JohanHansson1 4 жыл бұрын

@@bumblebee9337 Sweden is not that far north, there are plenty of old forest up here even above the artic circle. But it is getting warmer.

@SquareoftheyearFM 4 жыл бұрын

EyesOfByes it’s colder than Surrey on a slightly chilly day is the point really though ;) Sorry to hear your winters are getting warmer.

@Barefoot_Joe 4 жыл бұрын

@@JohanHansson1 It's the Antarctic that's the issue, north has only just started to warm.

@SeriouslyJaded 4 жыл бұрын

Norway here; the biggest factor of winter driving performance is the tyres (tires) you use. There are many brands of Nordic winter tyres not all as good as others, but there are also other winter tyres not suitable for the Nordics and designed for middle/northern Europe that handle better in the wet. Also all season tyres which are not good winter tyres. Sure, the low centre of gravity and weight balance of BEVs help with winter handling but those characteristics are of relatively minor importance compared to the tyres.

@BrynDavies67 4 жыл бұрын

Though I found this video to be up to the usual very high standards of production that we are used to from this channel, I also found it to be really disappointing in terms of educational value. As a potential EV buyer I hoped to be informed about how EVs in general cope with winter conditions, what I got though was just an analysis of how well a Tesla model 3 handles on ice with studded tyres, something not relevant to me personally.

@zapfanzapfan 4 жыл бұрын

The test I was hoping to see was what happens when it is cold soaked to -30 C. And just for laughs he could have tried autopilot on the snow covered roads :-)

@MrCristopher99 4 жыл бұрын

Production quality through the roof! Amazing!

@kenkikk 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, stunning high production value. Great first episode for Andy and well worth my Patreon money.

@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you; there's a very talented team behind the cameras - all the best Fully Charged Dan

@abcde12345fghijab 4 жыл бұрын

@@fullychargedshow Hi Dan. So how many people do work on a more or less daily basis at fully charged?

@pallibj 4 жыл бұрын

Very talented people behind the cameras yes, but that's not enough. How about rendering the file in 16:9? This video looks hideous on my 16:9 55" TV 😔

@YggdrasilMarcus 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to see my home town Östersund in fully charged! It's only in the middle of Sweden though, Sweden is a long country :-)

@Liscom 4 жыл бұрын

Yggdrasil Sweden is a darn beautiful country, can’t wait to go there on a holiday again when this current madness is over. Won’t yet be in a Tesla unfortunately, though 😉. Greetings from Germany!

@STruple12 4 жыл бұрын

Can electric cars drive on ice?* Here. Better title. Beautiful editing, great presenter, but the only winter problem with EVs got almost no screen time with almost no data. We already know that EVs handle better than ICE cars, what we want to know is how is cold going to screw with the battery of the car.

@derrickstableford8152 4 жыл бұрын

STruple12 They cope just fine, my colleague has on in Edmonton, Canada and loves the prewarming on the app before it’s even unplugged for his commute. They cope just fine, there is a % range drop of course, but it’s a similar range drop on a petrol car. Petrol engines hate starting at below -15. You should hear the squeal and grinding as a petrol engine starts then. The oil gets frozen in the sump. Plus at that temperature your lead acid battery life just sucks. Then there’s the square tires for the first few miles, until they unfreeze. Basically cold kills engines, motors don’t care, and all battery’s dislike it to varying degrees.

@STruple12 4 жыл бұрын

@@derrickstableford8152 Thanks. Yep, I do know what a diesel does in those temperatures and I'd kill for a preheat function (regardless of the fuel type) instead of pretty much running out of the house in my pyjamas to start the car 10min before departure as I do now lol

@mgmarrison 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to Andy! It’s films like this which make me happy to be a Patreon. The filming was great and an entertaining watch, too! Feel cold now 🥶.

@terryrogers8965 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video! Was that an AWD or RWD version? As any Canadian will tell you tires can make all the difference during winter driving, you were using studded tires and for icy conditions they are best. What most channels espousing the virtues of EV cars fail to mention is you cannot charge or discharge li-ion batteries if the temperature of the battery is below 0 degrees Celsius. The only slight reference you made to this was the locals recommending leaving it plugged into the mains until ready to use it. If it is not plugged in the heat required to maintain the battery above freezing comes from the battery itself. This would significantly affect range. People have a right to know all the upsides and downsides to owning and operating an EV. Winter driving tip: brake before you turn.

@argus8888 4 жыл бұрын

This guy's made for the Cybertruck off-road review!

@meesterJos 4 жыл бұрын

Oh Yeah!

@MikeDWinter 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, brilliant first episode from Andy.

@walbergrobin 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a nice ad, but as someone who drives a Tesla in wintery Finland, there is barely a shred of information here. No mention about how if the battery is cold, your car won’t regen brake at all, consume about 50% more energy etc. It’s still the best winter car I’ve driven. Being able to turn on the heater from your phone so you’ll never have to get in a cold car is probably the best feature ever. The anti spin and anti slip systems are also best in class and have saved me from slipping off the road a couple of times.

@davidstretch1349 4 жыл бұрын

Is this not primarily showing that studded winter tyres on a four wheel drive vehicle work well???

@miguellopez3392 4 жыл бұрын

the model 3 handles about as well on track so its nice to see that it can still work in iced conditions with the appropriate tires.

@glennluker6397 4 жыл бұрын

Nothing against Andy, he seems like a nice enough fella and obviously a very talented presenter, it could just be an aversion to Alphas male types, but I found myself missing Johnny Smith on this one. His reaction to the jingle bell tune alone was a bit telling. I understand it may not be for everyone but to get physically bothered by it is a tad concerning. I couldn’t help think about what Johnny’s reaction would have been and how his personality just induces a smile or think what clever, purest of British anecdote he would have shared. Not sure what happened between Johnny and Fully Charged but I wish they could have worked it out.

@davidpowell2523 4 жыл бұрын

What was the temperature and how much range was lost due to the cold?

@gordonross8524 4 жыл бұрын

David Powell the stats wouldn’t have been valuable considering he was rallying. All conditions were opposite to normal driving on public roads.

@jimdetry9420 4 жыл бұрын

@@gordonross8524 the stats would have been valuable considering the title of the video, handling cold not handling ice and snow.

@miguellopez3392 4 жыл бұрын

@@jimdetry9420 no they wouldn't, running a EV under a variable load like a snow packed rally will provide no useful data to anyone who isnt planning to do this rally in other temperatures.

@vinces8209 3 жыл бұрын

@@jimdetry9420 your comment made sense, the title could've been how does a Tesla handle on icy roads, actual battery loss would have been useful, what loss is there if not plugged in, ect. he actually puts some miss information out there to concerning ice engines, the main reason they are less efficient in cold is people's habits and a change in the way winter blends of gasoline and diesel are made the actual loss is negligible in my experience if taking a long trip.

@biglogan6142 4 жыл бұрын

some of us live in Canada and DO have to contend with conditions like that on our daily commutes for a month or two out of the year lol EDIT: I was being hyperbolic for humor's sake ... it's 4-6 months of the year ... we know EVs are safe ... what winter countries need is a serious car to car, manufacturer to manufacturer comparison of charge loss, wear and tear (salted roads are a MASSIVE issue), and efficiency loss between EV brands and designs.

@Obscurai 4 жыл бұрын

Calgary here. First snow was in September and it snowed two days ago in April with possible snow tonight. So 8 months of possible snowy conditions.

@joshuasmith7369 4 жыл бұрын

I live in the eastern portion of the middle section of the southern region of Texas. It's only snowed 4 times where I live since 1887.

@roger1818 4 жыл бұрын

joshua smith So since it rarely snows in Texas, winter driving is irrelevant? 🤔

@derrickstableford8152 4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Louie yep, I had to out to Ya Ha Tinda ranch for work, and there was 4” of snow. What joy. My colleagues in Edmonton love their Tesla’s.

@biglogan6142 4 жыл бұрын

@@Obscurai I live in Ottawa and Montreal ... it usually goes from late December to March ... I was being a bit hyperbolic about "a couple" ... I think that most snow-bound people in Canada aren't worried about the safety aspects ... we're used to snow tires and winter driving ... what I want is a serious comparison of who's systems are most efficient over 4 to 6 months of winter driving?!?? We know any electric car is going to lose efficiency ... but how much? and is Tesla better than Audi? is Toyota better than Nissan? is there any difference at all? etc etc

@klaxoncow 4 жыл бұрын

"If you have been, thanks for watching" It's now official. Upon uttering those words, you've cast the spell and become a Fully Charged presenter. :D

@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

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@MrKitesurfercharlie 4 жыл бұрын

The Carnot efficiency increases with an ambient temperature drop in a combustion engine. In fact if you count heating the cabin as desirable then the overall efficiency of the car is even higher. It is not a question of chemistry but rather thermodynamics.

@sakero88 4 жыл бұрын

Happy 10 year channel anniversary tomorrow!

@MistressDragonFlame 4 жыл бұрын

Why am I watching this, I'm moving to Hawaii, and don't own an EV.

@timjohnson67 4 жыл бұрын

Only you can answer that. Very good luck.

@abbaby555 4 жыл бұрын

Even a better reason to buy an EV, gas is crazy expensive in Hawaii

@zapfanzapfan 4 жыл бұрын

Hawaii is perfect for EVs and solar panels to charge it :-)

@richardlangley90 4 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the video but studded tires take all the relation to real life away from the learning experience. We drove our Model 3 in real winter conditions all winter here in Canada and it performed well. With good snow tires on both it and our 2010 Dodge Caravan both performed well. We live in the country, on unpaved back roads so we know winter driving. I didn't find this video all that helpful. I did a winter exercise very similar to what was portrayed in the video with my van and my 16 year old niece about 6 years ago....we did bang into a few snow banks...but we didn't have studded tires. This aside my only real beef with the video is the comment that we should bundle up in hats and parkas to drive our $100K + vehicles in the winter so that we can achieve somewhat reasonable range. This sucks...and is my only real complaint with my Tesla. I have to put up with a shorter range than my van and I have to be uncomfortable as well...this needs to change....and please don't tell me my ICE vehicle loses range when the heater is on...it's literally imperceptible. I am an EV fan through and through but let's not minimize the real negatives...let's find a way to fix them instead.

@BikeFlips 4 жыл бұрын

I take your point, but it's a personal preference thing. I like cold air in the cabin but would use just the seat heaters

@rolandtb3 4 жыл бұрын

Seemed more PR than informational. Heading says "Can electric cars" - did not know it was only about Tesla. Little facts about speed, braking distance, weather conditions. Disappointing.

@jeremyeharris 4 жыл бұрын

Last time I checked, Tesla's are all electric cars. Fully Charged have often test driven a specific marque to draw attention to the benefits of driving any EV. They're probably the most brand agnostic EV show around, which is why I like them. They neither favor nor have a bias against any brand, including Tesla.

@bazoo513 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome on board, Mr. Bond! This is an amazing addition to the crew! This was tremendous fun to just watch; I can only try to imagine how fun it was to actually drive. (And, Mr. Musk: marketing money well spent!) Conclusion: it does not need to be Aston Martin (although those guys also look at crossing to the light side, so to speak, with the help of both Williams and Rimac, IIRC.)

@hughmarcus1 4 жыл бұрын

bazoo513 It wasn’t just me that thought he sounded like Sean Connery then. 😆

@bazoo513 4 жыл бұрын

@@hughmarcus1 I think his accent is totally different, but he was (probably) Craig's stunt double in diving and other dangerous scenes in _No Time to Die_

@AAVSOtube 2 жыл бұрын

@@bazoo513 I was gonna say, I dont know how his acting skills are but I'd watch him if he was Daniel Craigs replacement in the next Bond movie.

@ScottvanBreda 4 жыл бұрын

Might be one of the best episodes so far. Nice first film Andy!!

@sandyhagen9155 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Fully Charged ‘family’ Andy! A great first time out, and looking forward to the many varied modes of transport you’ll be covering. Oh, and first time I’ve heard someone being “bleeped out” on fully charged! 🤗😂

@maxgreece1 4 жыл бұрын

Great fun as a video but it didn't really answer the question - what happens to the range? If there are Swedes there that own the car (model 3 in this case) what are their experiences comparing summer and winter economy? I'm thinking we could have answered the question without the ice lake fun - but it wouldn't have been as interesting. Anyway - welcome addition to the team.

@Gringorn 4 жыл бұрын

Not a Swede, but I'll give it a go. Expect 20-30% loss of range. In really extreme winther conditions with no pre-heating, up to 40% loss. But normally throughtout the winter season, 20-30% loss is my experience, living in the middle of Norway. Tesla owner for 4 years, on my third model S.

@mad4mymini 4 жыл бұрын

Shock horror.... 4WD car with studded tyres performs well on ice........

@jonord 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have no doubt that the Tesla performs when it comes to handling and such in winter conditions. But I can see many problems with the designs of the BEV's of today when it comes to winter condition. One of them is charging it over night during a snowstorm and no garage to put them in... I'd like to see a video addressing that as well.

@carminedauria-gupta2561 4 жыл бұрын

Joakim Nordlander it’s not a problem as long as the charge port doesn’t freezes it’s ok if it gets wet

@jonord 4 жыл бұрын

I think Teslas solution with their relatively small charge port probably handles it much better than many other designs. The problem as I see it is that almost all designs opens the flap to the side and then it is tilted slightly upwards, which means the snow will build up there. And if it is around the freezing point, and the downpour is a mix between snow and rain.. Well, you're asking for trouble..

@alexmckenna1171 4 жыл бұрын

The Tesla seems to be the top selling car in Iceland, and in Norway too most months, so it must be doing okay in the cold :-)

@jonord 4 жыл бұрын

Again, I have no doubt that EV's can handle the cold. It is the snow and ice I'm thinking about. And snow can be a problem for any car.

@CFG39 4 жыл бұрын

The cinematography is movie quality. The snow covered roads and trees looks like it came straight out of some James Bond movie.

@jeroenimus7528 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Would love to see these kind of tests with more affordable cars like a Leaf or a Soul. Those give a better idea of how EVs do vs ICE cars than showing off with a top of the range Tesla that's unaffordable for most of us.

@matsa85 4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, those manufacturers don't invite people to frozen lakes once a year, but I agree with your point.

@gordonross8524 4 жыл бұрын

Only about £6k more for a Model 3 over a Soul.

@mreddy9517 4 жыл бұрын

I love this screen ratio! Please keep it like that!

@bangerbangerbro 4 жыл бұрын

@William Hummel No he's saying it would have been shot in 16:9. What mainstream phones are 21:9 anyway? I thought most were 18:9? Mine is 16:9.

@greyareaRK1 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much IS a Canadian commute. This should reassure drivers here. Awesome production quality.

@whitlockbr 4 жыл бұрын

FYI Model Y has a heat pump. Better range in winter.

@egold33311 4 жыл бұрын

only if you use it

@TheViewFromUpHere 4 жыл бұрын

I have found that the throttle on an EV is very precise, great for maneuvering in tight quarters or on slippery roads. The traction control being "more" electronic is also better.

@waynejones5635 4 жыл бұрын

No disrespect, but if you want to test an EV car and if it can handle the cold, you should try it against real cold. Try something like Saskatchewan, Canada in winter where it can often reach below -30C . It can often be a challenge for combustion cars, as oil and batteries freeze in the extreme cold. It would be a true test for an EV car.

@geoemm 4 жыл бұрын

James Bond driving a Tesla, I am ok with that

@ZebHallock 4 жыл бұрын

Great episode! To clarify one thing, the turn signal bells are just a silly thing you can turn on/off for fun, like the farts, which can also be set to the turn signal oddly enough. It's not mandatory, lol.

@willdatsun 4 жыл бұрын

rather a misleading title. And this was 90% style and 10% useful content.

@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

We mulled this over long and hard. These are surprisingly difficult decisions. Because this was a more basic episode, i.e. for people less familiar with EVs and less in depth than a lot of our output, we took the opportunity to be broader with the title, as a huge % of people instantly think Tesla is beyond their financial reach and won't watch. We take your point though. In truth, whichever way we label the episodes we will get criticised. Thanks, Fully Charged Dan

@MartijnterHaar 4 жыл бұрын

Andy Torbet seems like a nice addition, but this episode had a bit too much of a Tesla infomercial feel to it for me. I know it is pretty standard for the car industry to take a bunch of journalists to photoscenic locations for test drives, but I think that's yet another Old Car Industry Fully Charged should leave behind.

@F15HHOOKS 4 жыл бұрын

Another great episode FC. Looks like great fun and welcolme to FC, Action Andy.

@PatrikHorvathYT 4 жыл бұрын

82 people don't understand Scottish. Really nice footage, welcome Andy!

@dhincks1 4 жыл бұрын

Silly not to have shown him the eggs to control the indicator sounds, glad they didn't leave it in fart mode. Still all and all put a smile on my face. Especially since we're still in shelter in place. Northern California, My 3 sits parked mostly. Cheers

@jpkool5722 3 жыл бұрын

It's not whether an electric car will handle in winter it's whether it will start after sitting outside in the cold all night and how far will it go while heating the cabin. That's what we who live in the north need to know.

@polishguy8495 4 жыл бұрын

As a non native english speaker I could use subtitles for this guy.

@GordonSime 4 жыл бұрын

its the little CC button, bottom right hand corner ;)

@sudarshankachale2634 4 жыл бұрын

same here bro

@bibliotek42 4 жыл бұрын

Basically he liked the cars, likes James Bond, and doesn't like jingle bells!

@chillmeister 4 жыл бұрын

Promise you it won’t take long to tune into the Scottish accent.

@meesterJos 4 жыл бұрын

I am Dutch and I could understand every word he said.

@pareshpanchal91 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, Andy adds a unique spin with his previous working experience which further broadens fully charged' appeal, looking forward to Rory Reid too, was gutted that he was no longer part of Top Gear but even better that he's now part of the FC team!

@AriesT1 4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel, new Jonny. :) Andy, your first video was superb. Can't wait to see what you guys have up your sleeves for him in the near future. Wishing you all the best.

@harsimranbansal5355 4 жыл бұрын

By far the best production of any of your videos! Also the shots are sooooooo damn good!

@SakshamSharmaOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Hi harsimran!!

@humrajgill 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice, yeah!

@teotwawki_je 4 жыл бұрын

I would have been interested in the user experience if the testers had been given their cars the day before to be left outside the hotel without power over night. I.e. If the car has to use the battery to warm itself up before use, how long does that take & what impact on the remaining range?

@benburton3496 4 жыл бұрын

No comparison to cold temperature range of a I.C. and battery. Parked standing for a week not plugged in you will consume the battery in keeping the battery warm. Hench start the car plugged in for 15mins before driving it. These tesla's lucky to get 100 to 150 miles in extreme cold temperatures and cant be left overnight without having it plugged in. More of a promotional video than any sort of review, was hoping this was going to change after Red dwarf.

@geoffnewman3109 4 жыл бұрын

Ben Burton My Tesla model 3 was parked for a week in a ski resort in the French Alps. It lost 5 % of battery charge during the week but It gained more than 5% of charge driving it down the mountain..

@benburton3496 4 жыл бұрын

Try it in reverse park for a week in sub -20 then drive up the hill. If battery heating isnt enabled you will have far reduced capacity, range and performance.

@21bCreations 4 жыл бұрын

More of an advert for Tesla than an attempt to answer the ‘Title Question’. Still nice film, beautifully shot and fun to watch.

@MrEddiekessler 4 жыл бұрын

If this is the quality of the output to expect from Andy in the future, This show just got even better. Welcome, Sir. Great job.

@robertrosicki9290 3 жыл бұрын

I've driven for 45 years in the far reaches of Northern Canada and one of the cheapest safety " pieces of kit " you can get for the conditions in this video are a pair of amber/brown polarized sunglasses . Greatly improves you ability to see contrast in those white on white conditions and really helps with depth perception .

@ekhaat 4 жыл бұрын

In my experience the biggest factor to affect range in winter conditions is heating, even with a heat pump. ICE cars have heating as a byproduct of driving, EVs don't. And some of the energy you might save by going slower, is eaten up by having to use heating for longer. Good show

@stealeyful 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, ICE cars get heating as a byproduct, but that's only because the engines are inefficient. Don't the electric motors and the battery radiate some heat when working? Could any of that be captured? Just asking.

@TechMagnet 4 жыл бұрын

It was a pleasure meeting you guys there :) great job on the video love it!

@romainhedouin 4 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Fully Charged tried to compare to an ICE car but it wouldn't start due to cold 🤭🤭🤭

@jur4x 4 жыл бұрын

Doubt it. Doesn't look like it was -40°C or lower. Should go to Oymyakon for that kind of testing.

@Alexander_Of_Pines 4 жыл бұрын

The coldest weather I had was -20C with diesel toyota yaris, It started right away even tho its diesel, some people were reporting -30C is also ok for most modern cars with fuel injection, maybe -35-40C is where the fun starts, but then there is Webasto or whatever its called that people in such climates would use. At 6:16 you can see its -4C which is a joke, I had this "winter" last week in Estonia. At -30C Tesla will work but will not allow you to use full power until its heated up, pretty much same story with ICE car which has run-by-wire. Good Tesla ad, poor title and poor test. Really want to put dislike but i guess whatever.

@orangeblade2 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry guys, that felt like top gear of fifteen years ago. A modern 4wd car with spiked tyres and stability control handles well on ice, who knew? Could you not have just taken it on a 200 mile drive? Maybe shown us some of Swedens historic places, somewhere you might have trained. How about some of Swedens charging infrastructure? Or a local who owns an ev and has some insight? The question I want answered about an ev is if I drive to the North West of Scotland in winter to go climbing, in - 10, how is it going to effect my range. Can I get back to the car where its been parked in a layby all day and reliably drive home. Andy is your action man. Let's see him test an ev like he would use it. Rental pick up from an airport or train station. Gear carrying space with a mate to an activity. Diving, skiing or climbing for instance. How does the car support you doing that? Please keep up the good content.

@christopherwalton5528 4 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful video; cinematography is stunning. Andy is a great presenter too; upped your game Fully Charged!

@philc4661 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but this seemed more like an advertisement for Tesla than an independent test. It looks like the scenario was an idea of Tesla's rather than something thought up by fullycharged. The range issue was glossed over, the tests were useless as I never use studded tires, no comparison with other cars, and no criticism for the car or brand at all. I liked the new guy, camera work, sound, etc. But wanted a review, not an advertisement.

@lookatthisvidsandfun 4 жыл бұрын

Nice cinematographic shots, but can it handle the cold? I'm missing a few very important aspects: * You must preheat your car, otherwise the handles could be frozen or * the frameless doors don't lower the window, pulling almost the sealing out of the car. * snow on the trunk will very likely slide into the trunk * the radar sensor gets covered by snow, and then no autopilot or speed controll is available any more * the big front lights have a huge glass surface which gets frozen very easily. this reduced the sight dramatically at night. I never had this issue with other cars. The rest is nearly perfect. I like the handling on ice very much. It steers just by using the brakes in that angular speed as you would exptect it on a dry street. It's amazing.

@DuvJones 4 жыл бұрын

This is interesting, because as a Canadian here.... Winter and batteries are a concern. They just are, and this gives me a lot of the basics. First off, Andy Torbet. Welcome man, fullycharaged is welcome to having you and so do I. Covid aside, I hope you have more planed. Second off, to fullychargedshow. Call me a little disappointed that this was mostly focused on the Tesla. It's not bad pre se, but there is a growing market of EV's on the roads today and their winter performance is something that I would like to see covered in more depth. Every single EV is different, many don't have the Auto-controls that a Tesla does, so again... as the native Canadian that does deal with some fierce winters (and road maintenance similar to the US, alot of salt and dirt), it would be nice to see what EV's are made of in the Winter.

@tacticaladvance 4 жыл бұрын

Great first video Andy.

@RojCowles 4 жыл бұрын

Haha! Around @6:20 where the Nav shows the car plonked in the middle of the lake, well I thought it was funny. Fabulous video and a fine first outing for Andy, nicely done!

@aspudkicker 4 жыл бұрын

Im saddened by the missed opportunity to tell us, how much in these conditions the range was reduced. I also noticed that the drivers side window was all misted up, using localised heating sources is all well and good, but good visibility is even better. As someone considering a EV for my next work vehicle, I want to know the warts and all facts about EV's, rather than just being told both EV's and combustion engined vehicles perform worse in cold weather by a EV fanboy. When I regularly see real world unbiased warts and all facts about EV's, so I can make a informed choice where to spend my hard earned money, then I will be more likely to stick my hand in my pocket to purchase one. This was more EV topgear then factual. I live in hope that true factual reviews will become the norm, and that in the next 12-24 months there will be many EV's that either meet or exceed my needs.

@TezlaFan 4 жыл бұрын

Well done Andy Well Done. I saw Tesla only. I wonder how Tesla compair to the other EVs in those conditions. Can you show us?

@markthomasson5077 4 жыл бұрын

A bit of a commercial for Tesla? The real test in cold weather driving / traction is over ice and above freezing.

@bangerbangerbro 4 жыл бұрын

And the test should be more about range in the cold than ice handling.

@egold33311 4 жыл бұрын

Should have been called "Can Tesla cars handle the cold?"

@dewiz9596 4 жыл бұрын

People who ride bicycles are very aware of the extra energy required to overcome higher air density. As do pilots: there are charts showing much shorter take-off runs in cold weather due to the ability of the denser air to support the wings.

@kimkimkim8 Жыл бұрын

I just wanted him to shout "And this, is sparta!" 😁👍🏽

@huewright1492 4 жыл бұрын

This a winter test for Tesla's, which performed exceptionally. Why keep generalizing using the term EV's when you only tested Tesla's?

@GMSlash 4 жыл бұрын

Very impressive to see how it handles ice and snow! It does leave me wondering how it copes with everyday life in places with strong winters. What happens if you leave a fully charged car on the street during the night in the freezing cold and return to it in the morning. Will you return to a drained battery or does it impact the battery's life in any way? It would be very interesting to hear about that!

@graham-kirby 4 жыл бұрын

A big shout out to the director, cameraman and editor, those opening sequences were amazing, I liked the rest as well 😀

@plugandplayEV 4 жыл бұрын

Beautifully done. Welcome Andy!

@swedenevguru8483 4 жыл бұрын

That hotell are in my hometown in Sweden and can i drive a Electric Scooter all winther ofcourse a Tesla works.

@sergest-pierre6160 4 жыл бұрын

The only drawback from driving an EV in the cold is the reduction in range which can be up to 50%. For the rest, it is a car, a bit heavy but still a car. This should be a well know fact by now. Living in Canada, I can tell you the slippery bit of winter driving is not the worst part, you get use to it and drive accordingly, it is the lack of visibility with slush and blowing snow filling up your windshield, window, mirrors and your lights.

@iteerrex8166 4 жыл бұрын

Andy Torbet, welcome and well done. I live at the foot of the rocky mountains in Colorado, and that did look like a fun day. Wish there was more drone footage. By the way I thought this was gona be on the battery of the car, not the cars handling. We know 4 tires independently electronically controlled is gona do very well regardless.

@matthewrjones21 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. He only very briefly touches on the reduced range pretty much waving it away like a non-issue. Cold weather is the nemesis of EVs and the effects should have been discussed in greater detail. A range test would have been welcome. As would have warm up tests from cold.

@iteerrex8166 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, The title of the video says Can electric cars handle the cold. Of course its rubber metal and plastic is the same as an IC car. The only thing to show then is the battery. Diverting an issue to something it does well makes it look like an ad.

@matthewrjones21 4 жыл бұрын

@@iteerrex8166 It does come across as very pro Tesla. I normally love Fully Charged and respect the honest opinions. This episode was a step in the wrong direction I think.

@Jacxel 4 жыл бұрын

Wow 21:9, my ultrawide monitor finally has a purpose!

@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

Mine too!

@crm114. 4 жыл бұрын

Nice presentation but at the beginining I was hoping for car spec info on the Model 3 i.e. RWD or AWD. I suspect the latter.

@fullychargedshow 4 жыл бұрын

Was on their Cliff. Long Range aka AWD

@seblacombe 4 жыл бұрын

The only negative thing I heard about Teslas in winter is that when it gets really cold, like here in Quebec City, you can't open your door. Because the window as to go down for the door to open and if there's ice on it, the window can't go down so you can't open the door..

@KillilaghChurch12 4 жыл бұрын

It’s like watching an EV version of the old TopGear. Also the advice he gave about winter driving , remove snow , wear warm clothing heat the seats , steering wheel , don’t use blower most EV owner already know this nothing new here.

@dr-k1667 4 жыл бұрын

So proud to be a supporter a subscriber and a from the beginning viewer of this channel. You guys manage to keep getting better. I couldn't ask for anything more, except another decade of great content. Well done Fully Charged team and a warm welcome to our newest presenters.

@dirckdelint6391 4 жыл бұрын

Me, in Saskatchewan: “Cold? But... he can touch the door handles without a glove! It’s warm enough for clouds! The snow is slightly damp, rather than a crystalline powder that screams when trod on! That hain’t cold!” HOWEVER earlier this year, when we had a week below -30c, the local news featured some EV drivers talking about their cold weather experience. It was, essentially, trying not to giggle openly when driving past ICE cars that couldn’t start after sitting unused for a couple of hours without jumper cables.

@WeatherManToBe 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Edmonton here. Next car will be an ev because of the cold. Imagine, not having to stand outside in -40 while your car is filling up? Where do I sign up! Ironically, never having to worry about the cold killing your battery or gelling your oil.

@bobeden5027 4 жыл бұрын

the air is denser at lower temps, so there is more oxygen available to improve power out put of an ICE engine.

@davidjulian8536 4 жыл бұрын

Very true, particularly noticeable in my '71 Kombi. Of the course the greater available power means more fuel use=less range. Of course, the use of the heater doesn't affect the range of an ICE vehicle as the heat comes from the built-in inefficiency of an iCE.

@petersylvester2905 4 жыл бұрын

As much as I'm an EV fan the reality is you could buy a £1000 Saab or Volvo, fit the same tyres and still have a range far exceeding the Tesla even without wearing a hat and coat and complete the same journeys in comfort.