Terrible idea: do a Nuzleaf-only challenge, name it Nuzlocke, and whenever people ask for a Nuzlocke challenge, point them to that video

I'll never not find it funny how you can flip Shroomish's face and it looks like he's planning something devious

"I picked to replace shroomish so that our rival would have charizard" 😂❤ love you MDB

Kantonians: That's a strange looking Oddish.

I think this might be the first time ever "Safeguard" was a problem.

Fun Shroomish fact, Breloom cannot learn Spore so you need to hold off evolving Shroomish if you want to have a Breloom with Spore

13:55 Technically in the Switch games they can disobey you even if you caught them. But it only happens if you catch them over leveled. If you capture it at a reasonable level and raise it up, it'll still be obedient, regardless of your level. With Pokemon games being more open-world these days, I guess that was their way to keep you from just running to a late-game area, catching a high level Pokemon and then sweeping the early game with it. But yeah, everything pre-Nintendo Switch still follows the rules you listed out.

I've been playing pokemon for the majority of my life and never knew a "fluctuating" exp category existed

13:40 There is one exception I know of for obedience. In FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald, Mew and Deoxys will not obey you in battle unless they have the "Fateful Encounter" flag set. So if you use a Gameshark to go to Faraway Island and catch the event Mew, then it will listen to you; but if you use a Gameshark to catch a wild Mew somewhere it will still ignore you if you have the Earth Badge. FireRed and LeafGreen have some additional anti-cheating measures, too. For example, adding the Tea to your inventory won't let you get past the guards at Saffron unless you actually got it from the old lady in Celadon. GameFreak really went all out to hinder cheaters in FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald.

MDBAMA: In black and white play throughs, why don’t you take on Cynthia or Alder? You take on Red in silver and gold play throughs and Steven in Emerald.

The Shroom of Doom

Week 16 of requesting a Mantyke only run, dealer's choice of game.

Thank you. As a dedicated hater of Nuzlockes, I am very happy to hear that.

Eviolite is also a gen 5 item, so you're rarely able to use it anyway XD

You picked to replace Shroomish 🤣🤣🤣🤣

MDBAMA: Why is it that you don't seem to use move tutors? For example, there's the Rock Slide tutor in Rock Tunnel, but in runs where you could use it, you seem to stick with Rock Tomb.

For the KZfaq algorithm: What fossil did you take?

It USED to be true that literally every Pokemon game makes the disobedience mechanic only apply to traded Pokemon. But as of Legends: Arceus, it's no longer literally every one. Just all but one...

On the disobedience mechanic, at least in Scarlet and Violet, disobedience also happens if you catch a Pokémon at too high of a level. I found it out when I started my Violet run and got an event Pokémon at level 50, with me being the OT, and it wouldn’t obey me completely except in raids until I got 7 badges. The good thing in this case is if you’re the OT, then it will only disobey you until the level it was originally at when caught is surpassed by badges.

I'm just reminded of the "Broomish" fanart now. Requesting Pokemon B2W2 With Only One Chinchou.

Thanks for making videos. I really appreciate your hard work. ❤

Another pokemon whos evo line really shined in gen 4, love my weird fungus kangaroo

I think you can win this MDB. You beat this game with Paras, a worse Grass types with Bug typing making it EVEN WORSE. You've got this, man!

In regards to obedience in scarlet and violet, they actually did change it! If you level a pokemon it works as expected, no questions asked. However as you can go to later game areas with level 50+ pokemon early, pokemon you catch have to be within your gym level to obey you. If you catch a level 15 pokemon before the first gym, disobey. If you beat the first gym and catch it though, it'll obey you and you can level it up as much as you want!

6:57 - Actually Paralysis is only a 25% chance that they cant move

So Scarlet and Violet did make a minor change to obedience. Because of the somewhat-open-world format you are able to get to high-level areas really early in the game if you want. To discourage this, if a Pokémon’s level-when-obtained is higher than your obedience level from badges, it will disobey, even if it wasn’t traded.

Yo MDB. Just wanted to express thanks for all the videos over these years: I've been fairly sick recently and I've been bingeing a bunch of your older Pokemon challenge videos. Today's one was enjoyable too, thought it might've been a rough go at the end, but that Spore/Leech Seed/Return combo worked wonders. Hope your throat feels better soon. Thanks again, man.

On the topic of obedience, you should do a team run of first form, but they are all traded. Level faster and don't obey

MBDAMA: Are you still planning on playing Stadium 2 with Whatageek and Goose_it?

Obedience did indeed change in Scarlet/Violet, it now applies to every pokemon (including those you caught yourself) but it works off the met level instead of the current level! Funnily enough, that means it still works the same for trading an overleveled pokemon, since the met level is set to the pokemon's level when it gets traded

Thank you for the comment about not finding Nuzlockes fun. I get asked the same question during my own streams, and I agree they're not nearly as fun as other challenges. I like ones that make me think and require strategies and trying things and taking risks that don't require complete restarts on a failure. I don't have time for redoing failed runs either.

In Scarlet and Violet, it's all about when you catch them. If you catch them below your obedience limit, they obey. if above, they wont. if you get a badge that raises your limit above what you caught them at, they obey. This is far superior to Sword and Shield's "If they're above this limit you just can't catch them." system.

1:52 "i picked to replace shroomish so our rival has charizard" So it will be a bulbasaur run? 😂

The fluctuating exp group is so fascinating, because up until level 36, they actually need LESS experience than Medium Fast. At level 36, the total exp is the same, but from then on, fluctuating starts to require more than medium fast.

ok so for scarlet and violet, it's a little different, you CAN have an overleveled pokemon if you caught a pokemon below the level obedience of a badge, otherwise if you caught an overleveled pokemon, it will disobey you up until you get enough badges to obey you

I am once again asking you to take the fossil opposite the one you say you took. Just to see who notices. Yes, I know he took the Dome fossil on a fossils only run when he started with Omanyte. But that is not what I mean. I mean I want to hear "I took the Root fossil" while seeing the Claw fossil being taken. Or hearing "I took the Helix fossil" while seeing the Dome fossil being taken. And to those who say that this has happened before - when? Show me! I've looked and looked and have not seen it.

Honestly it's true, it's definitely less fun when the person clearly isn't really enjoying the game. Anyway, I vote Solosis in Black or White

They actually did change the disobedience mechanic, now it's Pokemon that were traded to you and Pokemon that you catch that are too high of a level. I experienced this change first-hand when I almost lost a team star battle because the level 35 Scyther that I caught wouldn't listen to me.

I did this playthrough in Oblivion once and it was a TON of fun: Play Oblivion but you're only allowed to use Unique Items

13:44 since Legends: Arceus, they will also disobey of you catch them at a too high level. In Scarlet i caught a lvl 55 Zweilous while i only had 2 bades (on the first ball as well), it disobeyd till i had enough badges like it was traded.

14:37 Very fair, it’s a STRESSFUL experience. Not for everyone, it was called hard mode by the originator for a reason.

Legends arceus stops obeying you after a certain level despite trade

I hate Shroomish, haha! Nice you did a solo run with it though!

“I still haven’t played Scarlet & Violet because I’m saving it for the show”-MDB, who still hasn’t played Kalos, Alola, Galar, or Hisui for these challenges for the same reason. It’s gonna be a process guys.

Shroomish's face is literally mine when I find out people skip the intro/outro's in your videos

**Week 141 of asking for Platinum With Only Drifloon** I will never give up

I’m so happy to hear you mention finally using rare candies!!

Shroomish doesn't resist fighting

Just got back to my home state, and a new MDB vid came out! I’m gonna have an epic 32 minutes and 18 seconds

From what I know in Scarlet and Violet Pokemon will disobey you if you caught them at a high level with not enough badges - but also traded Pokemon will always obey you if you received them under a certain badge level (even if the Pokemon then goes a over that badge level).

Paralysis and flinch. Oh no he's discovered paraflinch, no one tell him about serene grace.

Did anyone else go into a rock gym intentionally not fully healed when you had a draining grass move just cuz?

Holy cow. The disobeying thing is such a Mandela effect. I could've sworn...

13:03 I think the Pokemon disobeying question is because of how the obedience system changed as of late. In Scarlet Violet, if you catch a Pokemon above a certain level before you get an x amount of badge, Pokemon will disobey REGARDLESS of OT status.

Shroomish and Breloom are some of my favorite designs and type combos when it evolves thanks for doing a run like this and spot lightingShroomish's potential.

14:04 I think the rule might be exclusive to trading for the more linear earlier games because you physically can’t catch a wild mon above the badge level in those games but that’s actually how it works in ScarVi Since you can conceivably get to any area at the start of the game and catch a super high level mon, they just won’t obey you unless the level you actually acquire them at is below the badge level. Tho that does mean you can go to an area with mons that are more powerful than you ‘should’ be able to get, and just keep encountering them til you meet one that just barely is a low enough level to meet the badge requirement, so imo it makes things more interesting. Oh btw cus you mentioned it, I’d be super interested to watch a supercut of MDB’s first playthrough of one of the later gen games!

13:39 I do have to point out obedience does change in Scarlet/Violet, iirc it's based on the level you get the pokemon at, regardless of original trainer or not. ie: if your badges say pokemon up to 10 would obey you and you catch an 11, it'll disobey till you get the appropriate badge, but if you caught that same pokemon at 9, and raised it to 11, it'd obey. Not sure why they felt the need to change this, but hey.

Thanks for doing this idea MahDryBread, I really appreciate it.

This might sound random but i enjoy watching your videos while doing homework. Also i just have to say that you have a very soothing video for a guy. no offense i'm just a new subscriber to your youtube channel. This is just something that i noticed while watching your videos back to back.

They did change obedience. Starting at Legends Arceus and Scarlet and Violet, any Pokémon you catch or receive whose starting level is above your badge/star level threshold will disobey you until you get enough badges/stars so that their initial level is below your level threshold. Once that happens, they'll never disobey you again, even if their levels rise above your level threshold again. This eliminates the problem of traded Pokémon disobeying you later on, as well as keeping disobedience's intended purpose: to stop you from cheesing the game by trading or catching a Pokémon at an extremely high level early on.

i have a rule suggestion. for future kanto runs, you can catch/evolve wild mons just to add to the dex so you can reach 50 entries to get the itemfinder to get the leftovers from beneath snorlax. just explain it in video that any mons used this way are not used against trainers. because getting a weedle to lv10 is easy and gets you 3 dex entries towards that sweet sweet leftovers

MDBAMA: why do you never take the dome fossil 😂

The beginning when you said you replaced shroomish with shroomish was hilarious 😂 also wasn't expecting the name Oddish to be followed by "so it fits more into kanto" rather than "because that's hilarious". Even after all these runs later I never know what to expect from your commentary and I absolutely love it 😂❤ great video as always MDB! Oh btw, what fossil did you take?!?

Can we an Emerald run with just Swablu??!!!???

15:01 - I dunno man, I loved the Metronome run.

Now do gen 3 with an oddish and call it shroomish 😂😂

The only pokemon game I've ever played where pokemon you catch will disobey you if they're too high level are fan games like pokemon Reborn, Rejuvenation and Desolation.

Funny idea for April fools, a team of all legendaries at max level and EVs, but the twist is that you go in-depth on every fight, from weakest trainer to wild encounters

They actually changed the obedience in legends arceus/gen 9, because of the high level wild pokemon, that you can meet and catch! Now it all depends on the level at which you meet pokemon, not a level of pokemon. It also now works on non-traded pokemon! But that means, that traded pokemon do not suddenly stop listening to you, when you overlevel them!

MDBAMA Are there any Pokémon you absolutely won't use for a challenge run? If so, why not?

Did anyone else notice when he said he replaced shromish when he mean bulbasur in the beginning

Man can’t wait to see you play through gens 7,8 and 9

Eviolite didn't exist until Gen 5 so he couldn't use it in most of his runs even if he wanted to.

This is where some PP ups will be a life saver for mega drain with Agatha!! Love the content MDB keep it up!

I love the pokemon trading card game on the game boy colour my favorite sound track in the franchise just really hits a soft spot for me

I'll still write down my B2W2 with only hidden grotto pokemon! - use the randomizer to change one of the starters to: sap sipper marill, rattled dunsparce or scrappy lillipup (These are the floccesy ranch's encounters which would be the closest one) - you can use only hidden grotto encounters - you can choose between only one pokemon per grotto or catch as many you can find

I've been having a Time™ and haven't had the energy to watch many things recently, but this was a fun one to come back to. I hope your throat's feeling better by now! Also glad to hear you say you'll do a Let's Play of Scarlet/Violet... eventually. It's definitely my favourite Pokemon game bar none, and *really* got me into Pokemon. I've always enjoyed Pokemon, played it since Gen 1, but I've never been extremely into it until Violet. The AI for the Gym Leaders is absolutely fantastic. I also did my first challenge in Violet, on my own terms, and it was insanely fun! I plan to do some more when I can. I never liked Shroomish as a kid. A fool I was, he's just a silly little guy.

I'm waiting for the day when MDB is going on about how a gym will be hard, and then tries to be optimistic about it just to cut himself off and say how bad the fights was

MDBAMA: do you also take requests for challenges or do you Come up with all of them yourself ? ( love the content, always enjoyable to watch it with a drink. Keep it up )

I'll admit I'm slightly sad you won't Nuzlocke, but thank you for the consistent content all the same!

I have an idea for a fun run! A run only using Mew in gen 5. However, there's a catch. You mustn't overlevel past the next gym leader's/champion's ace. This run should provide a bit of a twist than usual, since instead of grinding until you can get past a boss, you have to think of it like a puzzle. You have a pokemon with high stats and all of the tm's at its disposal. Still, it shouldn't be too hard and sounds fun! And yes, I thought of gen 5 because of the unlimited tm's. It could work on any gen though

1:54 Oh no, it hasn’t been two minutes!

Challenge Idea: Indirect Damage Only! Could be whichever generation you choose with whatever team you can put together, but no direct attacking moves. Status, abilities, Counter, Perish Song, etc. Can you beat any Pokémon game without directly attacking another Pokémon?

MDBAMA: missed opportunity to have Snowbama read the comments in the text bubble

Game of your choice- Feebas or Poliwag runs Also, for a slightly easier challenge, a game with all three of that generation all in first form. Also, champions team but in first forms.

I might go check that though. I don't have trading capabilities in OG Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald and I do remember at one point evolving my Mudkip into Marshstomp before Roxanne and it stopped listening. I figured the threshold was just higher for your own Pokemon vs traded. Will confirm out of genuine curiosity. I could be crazy so don't quote me on this.😅

Just so you know, Leech Seed heals you by the amount of damage it does, so if you want the max amount of healing, just using the leech seed damage will be better than using mega drain.

Yes! Breloom is my favorite pokemon. I even have him tattooed on me. I'm excited to see how shroomish does.

MDBAMA: Since your job is playing videogames (and the production of the videos, of course), do you ever play a game that isn’t for content anymore?

I have an idea for a fun challenge, One that means you could even use Drowzee. Can you beat Pokemon Black (Or any game from gen's 5 ,6 or 7) with only the move Assist? Purrloin learns Assist at level 6 so it'd be the starter, Then if you get a male Purrloin you can breed it with other's to get more Pokemon. I think this would be a great wacky challenge since the more Pokemon on your team the more random the move is. For any that don't know Assist uses a random move known by any of the user's party Pokémon, With some exceptions. So even Pokemon that can't use Assist would still be useful if they have good moves that Assist can use. Drowzee is in the Human-Like Egg Group so If you want one with Assist you'd need a Spinda since they're in the Field and Human-Like Egg Groups so can breed with Purrloin and Drowzee. You could also use a Chimchar as a starter if you give it Assist as an Egg Move, They're also in the Field and Human-Like Egg Groups so a male one can breed the move into any Pokemon with Assist.

I think this is gonna be torture, so, sorry for suggesting it but: Pokemon Firered/Leafgreen with only a Weedle While on one hand it might be easier than the Magikarp challenge early game due to no required struggling when grinding and it's a bit bulkier and stronger than Magikarp due to having higher hp (less defense tho but not by alot) and having 35 attack, 25 more than Magikarp. You also know how to grind EVs, but you didn't when doing the Magikarp challenge, and either way the Magikarp challenge just got a huge amount of defense due to grinding metapods till level 15 On the other hand your only attacking move is Poison Sting which has a base power of FIFTEEN. You do get STAB however which does turn the 15 base power into 22.5 but it still just sucks, especially as the first gym has two ground types. I think this challenge will be possible, maybe resetting a bit for a Weedle with good IVs (IVs are similar to EVs but are decided from 0-31 for each stat when you get your pokemon rather than through killing other mons, the ideal weedle would probably have good attack and maybe HP or speed), and you can now probably invest some grinding time into getting EVs, most likely attack and speed. Max attack can be gotten by killing 252 Ekans, found early in Cerulean City, and max speed can be unlocked by killing 252 Rattatas or Pidgeys, found in the first two patches of grass and then you have 8 evs left over which are kinda negligible

So they did change how obedience works in Gen 9. It's based on the level the pokemon is when you catch it. So if you have a cap of 10 and catch something at 11, even though you are the original trainer it still won't obey. But if you catch it at level 9 and then level it to 100 it will obey because it was obtained below the cap. Comments are good for the youtube algorithm.

WAIT WAIT I forgot what fossil was taken

Challenge idea! a Single-type run, but use the randomizer to randomize movesets so you don't know what you'll get or what you opponent will have! I nominate water type.

Wow! Shromish is one of my all time favourites. What an interesting run!

MDBAMA: Why not put an Everstone on your pokemon through the UPR if you start a run with a first or second form starter? I image it gets pretty annoying having to go through and then cancelling the evo animation every time. Also maybe sometimes when grinding in the background you forget and have to reset?

13:40 - Pokemon Scarlet and Violat is actually the only exception at this point, lol. 14:32 - FINALLY SOMEONE Agrees with me!

MDBAMA: When you (start to) do Gen 7 and later do you plan to do a solo-Mimikyu run? 👀

I think Eviolite should be on the table if you get hard walled in the late game, but have a minimum number of tries before you use it. I’d say you’re at least trading off your item slot, but Black has very few berries or other hold items compared to other gens.

MDBAMA: just two non-pokemon questions 1. How funny is it that MDBAMA kinda looks like Obama? 2. When do you think Roman Reigns will return to the WWE?