Can I Fix the Warhammer Mini YOU all Laughed at?

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Rogue Hobbies

Rogue Hobbies

Күн бұрын

As you've probably worked out I am a HUGE fan of Oldhammer, Midhammer and any of the other weird looking minis Warhammer has to offer!
Which means when Games Workshop revealed that their 'New Bretonnian Lord' was ACTUALLY a hand sculpted miniature from 2008 ... I didn't think much of it, in fact I thought he looked pretty cool!
But apparently the internet didn't agree...
So as an ambassador for dated and weird old Warhammer minis I felt it was my duty to prove that this miniature isn't as bad as everyone says he is
...but did I succeed?
Join me on this weird little journey as we discuss Warhammer, crediting, old sculpts, and how to paint miniatures in a way which hides as well as shows off!
CHAPTERS!
00:00 - Intro
02:03 - Let's talk about crediting...
04:42 - So what's ACTUALLY wrong with the miniature?
06:01 - Mocking up a new colourscheme!
06:55 -The hands!
08:24 - The Metallics!
09:43 - The Face!
12:30 - Did I do it... I'm not sure?!
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@thomasrobertson4213
@thomasrobertson4213 Ай бұрын
Poor Martin. Nice to see some of the rest of his work. Hypothetically, not that we did. Obviously.
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
👀👀👀
@thomasrobertson4213
@thomasrobertson4213 Ай бұрын
@@roguehobbies 🤐
@marcischlanger6848
@marcischlanger6848 Ай бұрын
Oooooh
@Nilboggen
@Nilboggen Ай бұрын
I don't feel bad for Martin Footit this was just a rough sculpt. He has made plenty of great sculpts. That high elf he did for his golden demon was amazing looking, and pretty much all his sculpts for the open competition.
@carlstanford7607
@carlstanford7607 Ай бұрын
The old models wonkiness is part of their charm. New technology allows sculptors to do a lot more these days. Well done Martin.
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
Agreed 👍
@danbyer4764
@danbyer4764 Ай бұрын
The old stuff definitely had a bit more uniqueness and charm. Newer minis kinda look the same for the most part.
@Kisaiele
@Kisaiele Ай бұрын
totally, more personality and more of the author was in them than nowadays, to the point that some newer minis look AI generated based on 1 good sculpt lol
@Wigalot
@Wigalot Ай бұрын
While I agree, this mini remained unreleased for relatively good reasoning.
@danbyer4764
@danbyer4764 Ай бұрын
@@Wigalot yeah it’s a bit wonky but also it never would have fit on a 20mm base back in the day by the look of it.
@leejamesburns
@leejamesburns Ай бұрын
Hi Louise. Thats the nicest, most gentle way of saying how silly and slightly sad it is that GW dont credit their artists, sculptors etc. Great vid!
@rkajdi
@rkajdi 23 күн бұрын
It's not silly and slightly sad, it's a scheme to depress wages. GW doesn't want another Duncan Rhodes or Perry Brothers, where their work becomes good enough that GW has to pay better wages or these people can use their portfolio to find better employment. So like the video games industry (another pillar of worker exploitation) they try to minimize crediting people with the things they do. GW has never sculpted a single figure since it's an idea not a person, but they steal all the credit from the people they pay to do so. And yeah, we should treat it more like theft than something to shrug our shoulders about. If GW wants to retain top level artists, I suggest they pay them like one or risk losing them to another company that will.
@RealJahzir
@RealJahzir Ай бұрын
The darker hair really helped the look
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
I think so too!
@42Blacksheep
@42Blacksheep Ай бұрын
The darker hair also increases my Jesus vibes with it. He is the Lord and saviour of Wonkiness
@TheDarkplace
@TheDarkplace Ай бұрын
The change of hair colour and skin tone makes a massive difference . There is only so much that you can do with a sculpture of that vintage. Overall really nice
@Arc_TheAirPirate
@Arc_TheAirPirate 7 күн бұрын
@@42Blacksheep And the christmas colour scheme really finishes the job :)
@xVancha
@xVancha Ай бұрын
"My potions are too strong for you, traveller".
@Lurkzz
@Lurkzz Ай бұрын
Hahahaha that brings me back. His face looked similar
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@yanakaizzz9335
@yanakaizzz9335 Ай бұрын
"You cannot handle my potions, traveller. They are too strong for you."
@arandomlostsoul753
@arandomlostsoul753 Ай бұрын
"Potion seller, I am telling you I am going into battle, and I need your strongest potions."
@SachikaRomanova
@SachikaRomanova Ай бұрын
Justice for the Squire. He's just a little guy, trying his best. Some good soul out there will one day give him the glow up he deserves. 💜
@MasterShake9000
@MasterShake9000 Ай бұрын
Suggs when gamer guys are problematic: 😡 Louise when gaming figs are problematic: I can fix him 🥺
@anonymouscrow5849
@anonymouscrow5849 Ай бұрын
I see you favored the Noble while leaving the Squire out in the cold. That's fitting, since it's exactly how Brettonian society works.
@bennydeckard
@bennydeckard Ай бұрын
I mean, the Black Coach is one of the finest models ever produced by the studio so I'm delighted whoever sculpted that is still producing amazing pieces.
@hongkongzorro
@hongkongzorro Ай бұрын
Its canon now, the squire model is the official mascot of the Juggz orphan voice.
@ModernSynthesist
@ModernSynthesist Ай бұрын
"Dan and Other Dan" 🤣 Thanks for getting into the credit stuff. It's ludicrous. I went out of my way to find out and credit the sculptors for the new Tyranids in my video about the new bugs ♥
@TylerSantinelli
@TylerSantinelli Ай бұрын
There's something charming about the almost cartoonish proportions and shapes. Wonkiness aside, the face looks like it would be easy to paint with those large surfaces. It made me think I should get something like this to stand in for the pilots of my Imperial Knights, or maybe a custom Inquisitor.
@Username41732
@Username41732 Ай бұрын
It's almost like the whole "Let's talk about crediting" part was coming from a very personal place.
@rickrynerson4082
@rickrynerson4082 Ай бұрын
Felt like that was lowkey the actual point of the video <
@charlesweinert4116
@charlesweinert4116 Ай бұрын
So many of the earlier GW sculptors have become so famous in their own right. It seems like GW deliberately wants to discourage their artists from getting recognizable enough to set out on their own.
@Drestlin
@Drestlin Ай бұрын
@@charlesweinert4116 if you have a name you can push for better treatment. if you are still "nobody" and uncredited, you can be replaced without much fuss.
@6dragondaddy913
@6dragondaddy913 Ай бұрын
@@charlesweinert4116 or their painters...
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 Ай бұрын
Ahhh! Paint the squire as a goblin! Even if you have to sculpt some pointy ears and google eyes on him with green stuff.
@coopersm2
@coopersm2 Ай бұрын
Early 00's, old?! Gah! That was a shot through the heart...
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
Sorry bud 🤣
@caerban
@caerban Ай бұрын
I don't think I have anything in my Warhammer collection that post-dates 1995. In fact I'm fairly certain Brettonia was still fluff and not a playable faction when I quit collecting.
@0NLYZ00L
@0NLYZ00L Ай бұрын
I really dont want "sorry millennials" to be a thing. We're not ready to be old 😂
@dannyb.4499
@dannyb.4499 Ай бұрын
​@@roguehobbies it's okay. Those of us hurt by it won't be able to retain the memory long.
@MasterJCT
@MasterJCT Ай бұрын
I mean they banned all of our square base models...Storms of Chaos represent!
@lilelf1301
@lilelf1301 Ай бұрын
The zoom in on the squire at the end whilst the credits rolled sent me 🤣
@douglasbeckman9849
@douglasbeckman9849 Ай бұрын
Man that 2008 Chaos Warrior looks so cool!
@popburnsy3207
@popburnsy3207 Ай бұрын
It really does
@wimvanheusden
@wimvanheusden 26 күн бұрын
True, I went out of my way to buy one at the time... Incredible sculpt that actually aged beyond well 🙂
@jinofthesheep
@jinofthesheep Ай бұрын
I think your paint job reflects your style - brighter colours, rosier skin tones. I don’t think it’s better or worse, but in a line up of identical models I reckon we could identify which one you did 😊
@terrencemiltner1005
@terrencemiltner1005 Ай бұрын
Oh that poor Squire
@philippstadel2281
@philippstadel2281 Ай бұрын
He could be a nice Goblin Squire if he had a green face ^^
@StevenTroughtonSmith
@StevenTroughtonSmith Ай бұрын
Fun fact (that I'm sure almost nobody noticed)! They actually repainted this mini for the webstore since it launched, and swapped out the product shots, to try and improve the face. The Warhammer Community post shows the original, and the webstore shows the new one (which is now on an off-white background). I think they ruined the squire though, they changed his eyes quite a bit; he was much more adorable first time round!
@AriSolMorningstar
@AriSolMorningstar Ай бұрын
Damn, the skin color is soooo much better on the store than both the old one and this one
@Cerviathrax
@Cerviathrax Ай бұрын
Martin might not be able to speak out himself, but I'm sure as a man in the hobby, he's glad someone's finally standing up for him =P
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
I hope so, I'm a big fan of his work and was super excited to see this mini released!
@chrish1645
@chrish1645 Ай бұрын
It's hard to be a man named Martin in the hobby....
@almost_zab
@almost_zab Ай бұрын
I have learned, over a long long time in this hobby (I'm RT era old), to reserve judgment until I hold the mini in my hand or see it in person. Mini photography is a skill all on its own and even pros can get it wrong or like you said, be restricted by management's rules and just have to make do. I think yours is about on level with theirs. Its just a hard one to paint and shoot. Good job.
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
I've always said you can paint the best mini in the world but if you take a bad pic of it it'll look like it's badly painted unfortunately 😞
@almost_zab
@almost_zab Ай бұрын
@@roguehobbies we all have those in our galleries. no shame. and so much nicer when people see it on person and love it.
@MasterShake9000
@MasterShake9000 Ай бұрын
If it weren’t for him holding a glove, I feel like people could improve the finger issue just by painting his hands as gloves. And I think your paint job does improve it quite a bit. It’s one of those instances where no particular change msg stand out, but the net effect is very noticeable.
@Mr_Waffle.
@Mr_Waffle. Ай бұрын
I love how you identified the restrictions the original painter had to deal with, personally I don’t paint eyes at all lol. Regarding crediting artists, in the 9th Oct 2023 warcom article “40 Years of Warhammer - Favourite Miniatures From the People Behind the Games” there are three different Toms interviewed! I assume one of them is Tom Walton, who shares his sculpted minis on Twitter (most recently the Night Lords kill team, but also things like the Imperial and Chaos knights). Wish more GW peeps could share their stuff.
@tommyakesson8858
@tommyakesson8858 Ай бұрын
Laughed at? Hell no. I was super happy to see it. The old scale is a bit wonky but I love that eras aesthetics
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
I agree, but apparently a lot of people didn't 🤣
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 22 күн бұрын
Agreed, always loved the older models level of detail and less perfect shapes - makes the models have much more life to them when they are less perfect. Plus white metal is generally IMO more forgiving and easier to work in than the plastics (for one thing you can usually just gently bend a mini's arm/leg to repose it, and there tend to be far fewer glue lines between parts - just one mould seam)... Really the limitations of old sculpting methods and casting often leads to little details that seem a bit odd, and leaving lots of detail up to the painter, where the modern stuff in its million part plastic mould is so covered in sculpted detail you'll wear out a file if you want any detail to be different from the intention... I'd far rather have the former - you can do so much more with the paint when the whole surface isn't covered in detailed fluff... In this case I'd expect those fingers end up very long on the arm that is part of the torso to avoid a big undercut in the mould, or making his fingers really really short - so the other hand is made to match it. Can't be sure of that of course, very hard to tell just from a video.
@Julian_The_Apostate
@Julian_The_Apostate Ай бұрын
This guy screams "it was the style at the time" and I kind of love it.
@rylandvance5304
@rylandvance5304 Ай бұрын
early 2k 'old hammer' is still like 20 years ago. We getting old y'all.
@DollaJames
@DollaJames Ай бұрын
But the Squire is just a little guy, just a little fellow, just a tiny man.....he deserves some paint, as a treat
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 16 күн бұрын
_…just an innocent man…_
@LB_adventurer
@LB_adventurer Ай бұрын
Your little guys hands and face are much better, the color scheme you used was definitely an improvement just overall for contrast. However the original artists lines are def more crisp and sharp in the details. The Rogue's paintjob was my preferred look, it just maybe could have used a few more hours to tighten it up and get all the little details sharper.
@chrish1645
@chrish1645 Ай бұрын
Red and green is always going to be a tough color combo. Hard not to go "Oh it's Christmas." I think there were some great areas in both yours and the studio painters. I prefer the eyes you did, and I do have to say the comparison did give me a new appreciation for the crispness that the studio painters regularly achieve. Great video!
@SamuelNolton
@SamuelNolton Ай бұрын
I think both versions have their merits - your darker color scheme I think actually lends itself better to the contours of the model - and in bringing out some of the details like that stag icon on the tilting shield. But the GW official studio model also has a bit crisper fine details like the purity seal script and some of the highlights on the beard and hair. All in all I think the model is still really gorgeous - old hand-sculpted minis have a lot of charm to me.
@sadlerbw9
@sadlerbw9 Ай бұрын
I happen to live fairly close to a company in the USA called IronWind Metals. You might know them better under the companies previous name: Ral Partha. Anyway, IWM sells cast metal minis and the designs range from very modern to stuff designed decades ago. Some of the older sclupts are a bit wonky, and no paint job can change that. That doesn't make them bad, just a product of their time. Faces in particular have benefited massively from modern sculpting methods. I'm sure if Martin were given another go at this model, we would all be amazed at what he would produce.
@Tardigradico
@Tardigradico Ай бұрын
The unstoppable urge of seeing a messed up guy and think "I can fix him" XD You did quite a solid job, still. I like the eyes the least, but they are very tricky to do, and the mini doesn't help. On the other hand, the heraldic colours look amazing and the golden details complement them perfectly.
@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy
@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy Ай бұрын
One thing you did better than the studio artist, who should have known better, was the irises. The most common mistake with the eyes is that people paint them in completely within the white sclera leaving the figure with that 1000 yard stare or the perpetual startled look. A tip for anyone painting the iris, look at your own eyes in the mirror and note how the iris are covered top and bottom by the eyelids. So the previous artist should have been aware of this if they are a professional and on that issue you leave them for dead. It is a surprise that such a small detail has such a big impact on a model but there you have it.
@PiratePyroFilms
@PiratePyroFilms Ай бұрын
6:27 NOOOOOO green has only been a taboo in 6th ed, many images of green heraldry existed before and I think we need to embrace it again
@IceJoust
@IceJoust Ай бұрын
I'm actually super glad to hear this; it was going to make my whole sherwood themed plan really suffer otherwise XD
@PiratePyroFilms
@PiratePyroFilms Ай бұрын
@@IceJoust go for it brother, if you can find them, grab Bertrand the Brigand and his bowmen
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 Ай бұрын
It’s fantasy you make your own rules 😂
@EmbraCraig
@EmbraCraig 29 күн бұрын
I’m not gonna say which I prefer, but even if you don’t thing your paint job is *better*, it’s still a super interesting video to point out what painting tricks you can use to minimise things you don’t like about a particular sculpt.
@jackofn0trades29
@jackofn0trades29 Ай бұрын
I’d say that no one has influenced my current painting style more than Louise, your poppy, stylish, colorful flavor of painting is amazing and exactly the type of energy I want in the hobby more!
@LordBilliam
@LordBilliam Ай бұрын
6:20 The 6th Edition removal of green from heraldry because "It's associated with the fey" is one of the lamest things ever done to Bretonnia, only topped by the recent legitimising of the lazy practice of painting your knights all the same in TOW, so I approve of your green paint decision. I painted my Green Knight with glow paint, fluor paints, and sculpted glowing neon green flames, and I blast him with a UV torch before placing him on the table where he subsequently bathes the models he fights in his eerie light (though it only lasts a couple of minutes so he gets a UV top up at the start of every move/combat😋). Removing green to make him special shows an extraordinary lack of imagination.
@foldionepapyrus3441
@foldionepapyrus3441 22 күн бұрын
I love that UV, think I'd go for making him actively electronic if I was doing that now. And I might as I never managed to finish the Bretonnian force I started... But actively flouresing/glowing is a really cool idea...
@Mr._A685
@Mr._A685 Ай бұрын
I learn so much watching you talk through your painting mate, thanks
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@user-eu6sq5xx3u
@user-eu6sq5xx3u Ай бұрын
You giving credit to Martin is the best internet thing I seen in the whole year!. Thanks for being that way! Artists need credit!
@TombKingTristan
@TombKingTristan Ай бұрын
What a shocking ending, I really didn’t expect that.
@vixel-6
@vixel-6 Ай бұрын
This is a great exercise in readability of a paint job and sculpt, hand in hand. Thank you Louise! As an aside, I'd love to see the little Squire transformed via a kitbash. A 40K/grimdark makeover with some spare little bits from kits - a cool experiment across time and settings. The little guy has been through so much already - why not give him a fresh hell to contend with? 💀
@ohsohologramic
@ohsohologramic Ай бұрын
I didn’t realize it at first but I think they missed applying gold metallics to detail on the second glove in the studio art. I only noticed it because both of your painted gloves have gold detailing, but the one from the studio is the same brown as the rest of the glove.
@PopeRocket
@PopeRocket Ай бұрын
Not being able to collect based on the artist is a travesty. Seeing an artist evolve and improve over their career is part of the fandom. It's not impossible, I suppose, but they've certainly made it difficult. This model is transcendent. A bridge from 'learner' to 'skilled' and (if Louise's hint at his other sculpts is on target), to 'master'. Side-eye at the squire would have been priceless.
@RiverRibble
@RiverRibble Ай бұрын
Really looking forward to this one! I bought the dude purely to paint. I like the "Get yeself somewhere safe lad, dem orcs ar comin up over't'hills" vibe him and his squire give off. He's a man of the people.
@TheAurgelmir
@TheAurgelmir Ай бұрын
I think that's a miniature where I would just put some heavy washes into the eyesockets and give him the "dark and broody" look.
@consistentlystupid4726
@consistentlystupid4726 Ай бұрын
Unsurprisingly, your model looks fantastic. I think you definitely fixed the hands. You were spot on on how to make the fingers look less elongated. Though I think the darker hair looks better aesthetically, I think the face looks about the same. I don't know if there's any way to truly fix that. Like with the hair and face, I think the color choices for the clothes were better but I wouldn't say it "fixes" the original as that's more of just a personal aesthetic opinion.
@Iamvalcristvalentine
@Iamvalcristvalentine Ай бұрын
I have been playing and building bretonnians since 1998. I saw this figure release and bought it immediately. It paints up fantastically. And looks fantastic alongside his fellow knights and damsels. The wonkyness of the website images is a product of the angle of photography. When viewed top down as the model would be viewed on the tabletop he looks perfectly fine, or better than his contemporary sculpts. One thing i will say, the eyes on the sculpt are not at the same height (but neither are anyones) but it is noticeable when viewed from below.
@windowwars.customdio
@windowwars.customdio Ай бұрын
Louise took a Bretonian lord and turned him into medieval Jesus. Excellent job, Louise! It looks way better!
@yanakaizzz9335
@yanakaizzz9335 Ай бұрын
This was fun! I really enjoyed the creative process of identifying those challenging areas and seeing how you came up with a fix for them. Also as a new comer here I'll add that your personality is every bit as vibrant as your colour choices! Looking forward to your next upload!
@christopherszynkowski2524
@christopherszynkowski2524 Ай бұрын
The pinned scrolls on the sword aside... I adore this mini. Look forward to seeing what you do with him.
@Fluffykeith
@Fluffykeith Ай бұрын
People demand Oldhammer. GW release Oldhammer (a literal previously unreleased Bretonnian model from WHFB) People complain that Oldhammer doesn't look like Newhammer.
@kheitain1
@kheitain1 Ай бұрын
I love any excuse for Louise to do her Victorian child voice
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
Same 🤣
@christiangruenwied3780
@christiangruenwied3780 Ай бұрын
Your paint job looks really cool and I like it very much (and it's way beyond anything I can ever achieve - but I was thankful for the tip with the eyes). I also liked that you gave the sculpter credits. I appreciate that your videos always have a positive spin to it and highlight the good things without leaving out the things that are criticized.
@diggis79
@diggis79 Ай бұрын
Love the honesty at the end showing how the original painter did do a good job. Your paint job looks awesome though.
@Godspeace21
@Godspeace21 Ай бұрын
Poor little squire! I have a lot of love for old minis, even if they're really janky looking. There's still a lot of thought and artistry in them!
@user-jq4bu5lr7j
@user-jq4bu5lr7j Ай бұрын
You done an excellent job in bringing out the right details both for the design of the figure as well as the picture readiness or exposure to lighting. Keep up the good work.
@MASTACHIEFPWN
@MASTACHIEFPWN Ай бұрын
There's plenty of knights that have green coats of arms in the total war games. It's a color that works aesthetically with heraldry, and saying that no one in an army that was originally advertised as being super colorful can have that particular color because a ghost guy feels very green or something is completely silly in my Bretonnian book.
@0mn0mable
@0mn0mable Ай бұрын
I love everything about this video! So to keep it short, let me just say this: what a wonderful and charming narrative you've made around this lil'guy and your adventure with painting him. :) PS love the classiccal music inserts, espcically Handel's Sarabande!!!
@dmeep
@dmeep Ай бұрын
Save the squire! save the world! (yes that is a heroes reference)
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra 19 күн бұрын
Martin Footitt's progression as a sculptor has been insane. His 54mm High Elf is by far one of the greatest models I've ever seen. The new Terminator Chaplain is also amazing!
@DJJohnnyFi
@DJJohnnyFi Ай бұрын
Your darker hair makes a huge difference. Even if you adhere to nmm bans and no green the dark hair would be enough to improve it. Poor derpy squire haha
@lukevassh7740
@lukevassh7740 Ай бұрын
Getting pretty good at those thumbnails. Also Juggz is such a blast to paint with. 🤘😁
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
Juggz would approve of this thumbnail, it's just missing the red circle and (Warhammer lore)
@lukevassh7740
@lukevassh7740 Ай бұрын
🤣
@Raichase
@Raichase Ай бұрын
I come here for the positivity and I stay for the great paint jobs. I like this model, and I certainly agree that a lot of the techniques used improved the overall look of it. Martin is a much better sculptor than I could ever be!
@somecheese
@somecheese Ай бұрын
I think both styles are evocative - the studio one feels like a lord from a city, a wealthy estate, and yours is more wilderness baron, more connected with the land, a lord of fields and forests.
@Joppehleno
@Joppehleno Ай бұрын
I think u did it at least! Your choice of colours and highlights look amazing and i hope i can reach that sort of painting level in the future. Thanks for providing interesting content and amazing paint jobs on minis ^^ I hope i reach your painting level in the future.
@thunbergmartin
@thunbergmartin Ай бұрын
What a nice video, its so refreshing that you concluded that the paint job was more complicated, (as opposed to a simple improvement) but jet the trying makes it all worth wile, good job! Love from Sweden!
@heighRick
@heighRick Ай бұрын
Well done Martin. Thanks Louise, helps a lot!
@teoiny1
@teoiny1 Ай бұрын
Yay Martin! I also love your work. My copy only recently arrived, so I am very much looking forward to putting some of these tips towards painting mine (at a dramatically reduced result of course 😉).
@liquididentity101
@liquididentity101 Ай бұрын
I havent bought or painted miniatures, or been even moderately devoted to Warhammer for 20+ years. But I find these videos so incredibly fun and satisfying.
@FluteGnome
@FluteGnome Ай бұрын
I love derp knight! hes iconic, like nagash! XD
@roguehobbies
@roguehobbies Ай бұрын
We love and respect OG nagash in this family
@FluteGnome
@FluteGnome Ай бұрын
One of the greatest of all times!
@andyface
@andyface 26 күн бұрын
Kinda feel like part of the fingers issue is also that they're all the same length, so ends up looking like a load of sausages lined up. Painting the ends of the fingers black to hide them is a cool technique for fixing them up
@cluelesscraftsman
@cluelesscraftsman Ай бұрын
I joined a few old miniature groups of Facebook to try to track down some older models from 80s and 90s, that I either had but lost or wished I had gotten at the time but missed out. There’s something about the old heavy pre-slotta models that is missing today.
@WithGas
@WithGas 27 күн бұрын
I can remember when Martin Footit was an Eavy Metal painter and I think he won the internal competition of the new (well, back then it was new - and it's still a really cool mini) CSM Lord - while this Bret mini could use plastic surgery or at least shades, his newer stuff (if it really is his, we shall never know...) is wonderful! I find your paint job improved the sculpt's face.
@TeaIngyer
@TeaIngyer Ай бұрын
I think the sculpt has an uncanny valley problem that no paint is really going to solve. The underside of the brow, and the top of the eye socket are too flat, and the two sides are asymmetrical in size. The dorsum/middle of the nose seems to extend directly down from the glabella/brow without a root (there should be a soft dip there), so it looks like the nose guard of a helmet more than a nose. The eyes are directly touching the nose as well, which looks uncanny. There's normally space there for the tear ducts and sinuses, so he looks like Bert from Sesame Street. The cheek bones aren't in the correct position, even with them being too big, they'd look more natural if they were lower, and tapered inward toward the upper jaw. The lower half is covered with a perfectly fine looking beard though. This kind of jank was common in models back then. I think, though. They opted to use the other model back then, due to it just being better work. It's cool that this model saw the light of day though. Art doesn't need to be perfect to be valid.
@curtiswiley5293
@curtiswiley5293 Ай бұрын
I think your face is definitely an improvement over the GW face. The rest of the model is a draw between the two paint jobs. I love your color choices but I'm personally not a fan of NMM. But regardless of comparisons you gave it a fantastic paint job!
@earnestwanderer2471
@earnestwanderer2471 Ай бұрын
I prefer Louise’s face too! Much more attractive than either version of the Bretonnian lord.
@DarkB7ade
@DarkB7ade Ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to this video after bumping into you and Rob in Element Games ( I was the guy after you in the queue :D ) You did a great job on him! Maybe next time i'll be brave enough to ask you both for a proper chat!
@R0xxo
@R0xxo Ай бұрын
Nice work on it. The wonky sculpts are part of the charm of the Oldhammer period. The model kind of gives me Bob Ollie vibes, which I love.
@lightningwolf788
@lightningwolf788 Ай бұрын
When he was revealed a while ago i thought he looked silly, but he absolutely carries that Oldhammer charm so i was pretty excited overall. Ive only been in the hobby a few years but i love the slight silliness of older minis. It's why i love this guy, and why im glad i got a ton of old Beastmen from an Oldhammer buddy in my group.
@TheRealActualPaincake
@TheRealActualPaincake Ай бұрын
a face only a Grognard could love (it is me, i am the Grognard)
@XyerDark
@XyerDark Ай бұрын
Part of the problem with the face was also just how dark they made the parts of it covered by the hair, basically created a bigger shadow than was necessary. Had they painted that part brighter, maybe making his sidebeard a bigger point of interest it would have looked much better.
@marcpaulus6291
@marcpaulus6291 10 күн бұрын
He still looks like the Knights now allow "not so fit" people in their ranks cause the lady said so "plentyfull laughter can be heard from the Forest"
@TheKazzerscout
@TheKazzerscout 26 күн бұрын
Oh awesome I've discovered another great channel. I love finding old models on ebay and repairing them/repainting them after being stripped. It's so satisfying.
@anonymouscrow5849
@anonymouscrow5849 Ай бұрын
It makes me happy to see you standing up for the original artists! The internet can be very unfair to people sometimes. Very thoughtful and kindhearted of you, I wish more people would do stuff like that.
@TheTygre
@TheTygre Ай бұрын
The Squire doesn’t just GET a paint job. He’s a squire; he has to earn it. After a year of faithful service to his Lord, he MAY be given the honor of a base coat.
@dennismcgeen3101
@dennismcgeen3101 Ай бұрын
Well done Louise! I enjoyed every step of the way, and I do prefer the look of your mini. You brought out the best in the sculpt and minimized the most awkward aspects of it. I appreciate that you celebrate the charm and wonkiness of the old school figures. I didn't collect them back in the day but I'm happy to have a new chance at getting the classic hand-sculpted minis. Nostalgia = coziness.
@AnHourOfWolves
@AnHourOfWolves Ай бұрын
Yours looks fantastic. Either one looks great for box art to me! I love the goofiness of the model as well, and would love to have it in my collection! Thanks for posting.
@colinmatter4697
@colinmatter4697 Ай бұрын
I think that the way you've painted his face, in addition to the colors chosen, *do* create the illusion that the face is more narrow, and that the eyes are not quite as close-set as the original paint job. Mission accomplished from my perspective.
@Zachfive
@Zachfive Ай бұрын
The Tiny Tim/Peasant boy impersonation is one of my new favorites things 😂
@perkulant4629
@perkulant4629 21 күн бұрын
I think the mini fits right in with the old aesthetic of old world.
@Enneige
@Enneige Ай бұрын
The wonkiness is the appeal and charm- I'm stoked the old 6ed WHFB night gobbos are back with their giant banana bows.
@matthieuhordynski5384
@matthieuhordynski5384 21 күн бұрын
Nice video, superb technical knowledge and great montage skills. You earned a subscriber! Keep up the good work.
@Futurist1001
@Futurist1001 Ай бұрын
Great paintjob Louise! Some ingenious tricks to fix the model! :)
@Avernusisonfire
@Avernusisonfire Ай бұрын
I got this miniature for my D&D Paladin character in the future who takes his Halfling Nephew everywhere to solely carry his helmet that he never wears as it would cover his high cheekbones
@Grubnar
@Grubnar Ай бұрын
I think the biggest improvement is the darker hair and beard. And I think you hit the nail on the head, the problem isn't really the miniature is badly sculpted, or badly painted ... it is the colour scheme and background were obviously not chosen by a professional, but some guy in a suit. Displaying the min against a black background is a MASSIVE improvement!
@theanimaster
@theanimaster Ай бұрын
I was half expecting you to come out and reveal that YOU were the OG painter of that particular model -- and that now a more experienced multiverse version of you is here to redeem an old paint job. But from the looks of it this model was probably done way before your time! And holy heck -- how can anyone say anything bad about this mini -- when the Black Coach (which I actually have) is one of the most freakin' awesome of models ever.
@tysoncraig7303
@tysoncraig7303 Ай бұрын
Seeing someone be so humble and constructive on the internet in 2024 is the reboot we all need :)
@jorgemontero6384
@jorgemontero6384 Ай бұрын
I think yours works better, and that if you had worked mostly on focusing on that box angle, and gave the mini another hour, you'd have smashed it. Make the shadows on the bottom hand a tiny bit darker, up the contrast on the purity seals a little, to a very mild wash to add some texture to them, and fix his right eye to look better at this angle. Since every little bit of change there needs a different set of paints it's just exhausting though. Opening a bottle, prepping the paint, all for two small brush strokes is just exhausting
@JimWorthPainting
@JimWorthPainting Ай бұрын
I think the colour choices and NMM actually really helped the model pop more, and amazing paintjob as always!
@FrozenThrog
@FrozenThrog Ай бұрын
The different approach in highlighting the face helps a lot. I like it. I am not an excellent painter, but something I have found out to help with eyes is to do them early in the skin process. It is easier to paint around them than in them.
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