Tim you should think about installing a valve on the inside of your building that way you have a quick way of shutting off if you ever had a hose break. Without having to run outside.

Natural gas has only about 1/4 the energy as propane. It will definitely be noticeable when trying to heat metals past a certain point like if you are forge welding steel.

I worked in a shop that used icy natural gas. They had a compressor to boost the pressure. It works, but didn't seem to get as hot as acetylene. I use oxy propane, it works fine.

I was just looking to see if you had any new stuff uploaded, and bang right after that here you are!

Great job with the shop. I'm taking notes for my own in a few months

That’s a very good tip of the starting of the torch. I’ve just switched to propane from acetylene as I ran out of acetylene and I was having a hell of a time getting it to start and stay running lol. I’ll try that next time I turn the torch on.

I’m not a fabrication expert, but I find everything you do super cool Tim. Thank you for all the hard work you do and the extra time you put into creating these videos. I learn something every time you make a video. Thanks from David in Alabama, here in the States🙂👍

You need 2.5 as much ng than you need for lp. 1cubic foot of lp is 2500btu and 1 cubic foot of ng is 1000 btu

Well thought out!

very interestin and useful idea timmothy. Work smarter not harder my friend. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.

Very cool tips and tricks.

Hi Tim, I have never tried this myself but I had an old beer making buddy that was an engineer that worked on industrial natural gas cutting setups frequently. He told me it cut much cleaner than propane or acetylene with less slag and scale to knock off the cut.

Great info Tim! 👍🏻🇨🇦

That was a really nice freehand cut Tim

Mate I found this video to be a real gas man . Cheers Tim . 😅🤣😂🤠

I really like learning stuff like that. Feel free to tell us all kinds of stuff that you've learned if you want! ☺️

Fiddle faddle! Snowy day in Alberta, but New Brunswick has been enjoying very summery weather.

Right off the top, I've learned that I can switch my oxy-acetylene torch to propane and that made the video worth my time. Now to watch the rest to see if NG is possible, too, not that I have that on my property now.

Always good to see you get a sponsor involved. And I am jealous of having a hardwired propane forge.

Thanks for the video. Jealous that you already have snow. Nothing here in Illinois yet.

I'm a mechanic and switched to oxypropane years ago. Acetylene is just not worth the headache unless you absolutely need the heat or are welding with it. My insurance company is happier with me not keeping it in the shop, too.

There is way bigger oxygen propane torches than that that don't waste as much gas but they are more expensive. They are used in the glassblowing industry

so I've used that combo before nat gas and oxy. it's a different tip and tourch set up. the regulators are obviously different. The nat gas regulator is hard to come by to my knowledge. it dose work the cuts are not as great.

can I ask which camera brand & model are you using. It looks nice. Thank you.

I had to fix a front loader bucket so i used the no.5 to heat the plate so i can bend it. was very cool but i did emptied my oxygen really fast.

They make a booster pump for natural gas. Also, if you are into silver brazing… I’d suggest the TEMF victor torch tips, and inline gas fluxing.

Cool vid bud, I was wondering how natural gas would compare to acetylene for the cutting torch! Good to see you getting things settled in 👍

There is an old youtube channel called Carsandwater he made a hydrogen bubbler and used it as a cutting torch.. Cheaper than oxy, and a hell of a lot more powerful

Natural Gas will need a different tip than Acetylene, and it cannot be used to gas weld as it isn't intense enough for that But it should be fine for cutting and heating

Yes, you can. The torch head is about $560. Harris Cutting Torch, Oxy-Natural Gas/Methane, Oxy-Propane/Butane, Oxy-Propylene, Cuts Up To 12".

If your hose broke and took fire, it cooks that oxygen bottle.

I’ve been an appliance and home gas appliance, logs, water heaters etc. 5 pounds is crazy everything I work on is around 7 inches of water column and natural gas and around 11 to 13 and propane

Very cool! Idk how much a million BTUs is but that looks like it could heat up a huge chunk of metal very fast 😄 profound I know. How are the other machines doing? Did any of them get damaged in the move or while sitting outside? Are you going to set up your shop for axes again or are you going to change things up? Personally, if you're making stuff to sell, I'd recommend making a variety of goods which I think will appeal to a wider market and be easier to sell stuff without it sitting around as much. Someone who doesn't need an axe could use a hammer for example. I love the bottle opener things btw. I just got mine in the mail a week ago on my birthday and it was a really nice birthday present to myself 😄 I think if you make smaller novelty stuff like that you could ship out a lot more for people like me without a lot of money. Still love your axes though! Beautiful works of art! Did you bring your scrap steel with you or are you going to source locally?

hey try hho from hysrogen dry cell and buy the way put a duel fuel carbotator on any motor and run hho form water im going to use it in a boat to go around the world

Still waiting for a response from the gas company for approval for my line to the shop. Had to send in specs for my burner for flow. A long time process and planning for this unfortunately. The flame looks way different for cutting through camera perspective.

Only have to lug the oxygen tank now. Would your supplier deliver?

KZfaq channels like this one gives me hope in humanity.

I just turn on the gas a little bit and the oxygen and it's easier too light.. easier imo than lighting it against steal... we use natural gas at the shipyard I work

Could you link where you got that torch? That is if you bought it online

Unsolicited suggestion but maybe adding a valve inside where you’re making connections? You wouldn’t have to constantly go outside to turn on/off the gas and it would be your emergency off in case anything happens. We have similar setups in the restaurants just for this reason

What is the pressure of a half empty propane cylinder?

Might be time to run high pressure NG to the shop 10+psi

Why is there not an emergency shutoff valve between the manifold and the natgas output? Regulators fail and are NOT a positive shutoff! Hose can leak or be damaged. Proper practice is a separate valve between the two outlets and the manifold on the inside as well as the outside so the contents of the manifold (even if you shut off the outside ball valve) do not continue flowing through a leak or failed regulator seat. Your fuel gas regulator ALSO at minimum needs a flashback arrestor as it's easy for high oxygen pressure to overcome low fuel gas pressure.

Having worked shipyards for decades this is nothing new to me, just the tips are different, also you need spark arrestor on torch where hose connects. tips are the key not so much the volume

can we cut to the scene where they had to carry the acetylene tank out of the shop because it was laughing too much

So cool

I didn't understand. Which gas users 4x more oxygen, propane or acetylene?

You were at 666 Likes when I Liked your video. I was going to like your video anyway, but I was happy to get it off of the triple six's. Well if your natural gas torch will work it will be a lot less expensive than bottled gas, whether it's LP or acetylene. Keep the touch lit. 👊🦊👍

Can helium be used instead of of natural gas ?

"Natural gas" is not propane. It's methane. Propane (and butane, they come mixed together in various ratios depending on how cold local climate is) is called LPG - liquefied petroleum gas. Methane is very different from these two. Any of these can be used with oxygen to heat, melt and cut, but none can be used for welding steel. Only acetylene can because the welding flame gives off carbon monoxide and hydrogen and that does not rust the steel. All other fuels give off carbon dioxide and water and that oxidizes the weld, ruining it.

Oxy propane for cutting is great. I would guess that natural gas is similar to propane.

keep the forge lite

Natural gas!? Are you referring to Methane or Butane?

Why are you running 40psi I’ve always ran 5 on fuel and 25 on oxy

Now all you need is an oxygen concentrator used for at home medical oxygen and you won't have to deal with tanks at all!

Natural gas is only half the calorific value of propane.

Natural gas and propane burn very similar and can share the same tips and rosebuds. However, using nat gas in the place of acetylene may light but will not be very efficient as it shares with propane, it's lower in temperature but higher in BTUs than acetylene. Neutral flame with oxy-acet is hot at or very near the beginning of the flame, wheras propane is hotter towards the end of the flame.

Be careful about the gas company. They might have an issue.

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Looks like you're doing things right, but I would like you to mention to be aware of safety and code such as thread sealant. You just know these videos are watched but partly educated DYIs.

ya lust need a different cutting tip and i don't think it's as hot

I'm shocked you can turn up your natural gas pressure! Here in Ohio it's only .5 psi and would never be able to do that but very nice you can do that where you live

Hmmm never knew a hose with clamp on it could be used to supply a forge. Hope your insurance company or natural gas supplier doesn't watch these videos.

The beautifully ran american company took away my "click the bell" option. Just an FYI bro. As a Canadian I get so incredibly defensive when i hear and read that 99.9% of the planet hates the humble muricans. I think they are swell and merely apologize! lol

6 minutes too slow!