Can I Train BJJ If I Have Dislocated My Shoulder In The Past?

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In this video I answer a question I received on youtube from someone wanting to start jiu-jitsu.
Their main concern is that they have had a previous shoulder dislocation and are wondering if they would be able to train BJJ.
I provide 10 steps/tips that you can use to help make your decision and also ways to stay safe if you start training.
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@nave94 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve dislocated my shoulder 11 times now, done the 11th time today at mma. Always done strengthening exercises to try and help it. In my experience, once it goes, it goes.

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 4 жыл бұрын

Evan Hudson you are definitely more susceptible to re-injury when it happens. Are you changing up training strategies? Is there a specific situation in training that has caused the recurrent dislocations?

@nave94 4 жыл бұрын

The Jiu-Jitsu Therapist I’ve always just done the standard resistance bands training to help strengthen it, then when it feels ok it pops out. It’s whenever I get it in an Americana position, this time, I had an undertook with the affected arm, and I went to grab a single leg but my partner squeezed my arm with all his strength and it came out.

@kraken7784 3 жыл бұрын

You prolly gotta get an arthroscopic surgery

@mrolympia2774 3 жыл бұрын

@@nave94 After the second time, it is recommended to see an orthopedic surgeon, because after surgery the chance of dislocating again is 5%, but without surgery it is 100%. But I know how it is, I've already dislocated 2 times and ended up getting used to the pain.

@nobodylikesme7464 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@hunterofglory4199 2 жыл бұрын

This video was just perfect. Seriously. Congratulations for your effort and being very sharp and specific on your communication with such an important subject. There's no videos on KZfaq, AT ALL, like this video. And i have a huge list of videos about this subjects and injuries on BJJ, post traumatic, how to deal with the process of coming back after an injury etc... But by far, you're the only one doing this great job. Keep rocking bro!

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 2 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate the kind words. Thank you. Happy to hear the videos are helpful!

@patrickbarsoomian9317 11 ай бұрын

Great video it helped me feel so much more comfortable going into bjj now

@Avdanru 9 ай бұрын

I just dislocated my shoulder on my first day of bjj class, was supposed to be some easy sparring at the end of class to review what we learned and my opponent went way to rough and yanked on my arm from behind. Currently in a sling and have to have follow up doctor appointments. Always been super interested in bjj and the dislocation didn't discourage me, definitely wanna get back into it once I'm healthy. But it is a pretty scary thought that my shoulder may never be the same.

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 9 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear it! Do the proper rehab and get back gradually! Reach out if you have any questions! Best of luck!

@lethalyoyo5592 2 ай бұрын

Get the surgery or do therapy no key locks or kimura tap asap and keep to 20-50% roll

@theenduropest 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent content, I have had a humerus break at the shoulder Joint end from a severe impact injury, after lots of strengthening and 18 months post injury decided to have chat with a mate who is very experienced in jujitsu who i trust to put me into some positions which I will be in during any class, the key being that he was able to roll it on in a safe manner and knew that I carried an untested injury, this helped massively for confidence and was done in the safest manner possible IMO, I strongly suggest doing the same either if you know an EXPERIENCED person in juijitsu or shell out to do this with an instructor in a private session as he mentions in this video, it will either give you confidence to go on or steer you back into the gym to further strengthen if there is doubt, i was not interested in finding out my limits by a white belt/ inexperienced person if they did not fully understand the limits etc, it may have been fine but if you are anything like me and hated every minute of being at a sub par state in the rehab, I didn't want to take any chances, I hope my experience can steer someone in the right direction or help give some perspective, always keep strengthening the joint too 👍

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 4 жыл бұрын

Great perspective! I for sure agree that the strategy you utilized to experience BJJ was helpful and put you in the safest environment possible. I hope that you are enjoying BJJ! Stick with it and always communicate with your instructors and training partners. We must take care of each other and keep each other safe so we can enjoy this great martial art!

@haynesmi86 5 ай бұрын

My shoulders have both dislocated multiple times, but I spent the last 2 years doing tons of strength training, and since then they are much more stable than they’ve ever been. Still more of a risk for me than someone who’s never had a dislocation, but workable. Yesterday while training bjj, my partner very quickly went for an arm bar, and I felt my shoulder strain. I’m a little sore today, but I did not have a new dislocation. I plan to continue training, but I’ll be letting my training partners know that my right shoulder is sore right now and to just assume the tap. Last night I instantly verbally tapped when he grabbed my arm because the angle was weird and it hurt right away. Is it smart for me to do this? Probably not, but I enjoy bjj enough to take the risk. That’s the math we have to do. My advice to anyone with bad shoulders is to do a ton of strengthening of the shoulders. I added some visible mass to my deltoids and I can absolutely tell the difference now days.

@markkd8404 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Eugene, Ive been doing bjj for 2 years now, and I have chronic subluxations in my right shoulder which makes me hesitant to make some moves when rolling because it sometimes pops out. What should I do to have a more stable shoulder that won’t give out on me every once in a while? Thank you love your content

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 4 жыл бұрын

Mark Dusso I think adjusting your training is smart and a good idea to try and protect your shoulder. Possibly looking at using only one side when getting under hooks for example. I know that may limit your game but being able to train with the least risk of injury is the most important thing in my opinion. Then strengthening the shoulder and surrounding area is crucial as well. That may include rotator cuff strengthening and shoulder blade musculature strengthening. Controlled drilling as well to see what your shoulder will also tolerate well in a safe training environment. Recovery and adequate rest are pieces to pay attention to as well. It’s a combined approach and listening to your body is again important.

@VaaliD93 4 жыл бұрын

You probably have a torn labrum man. Beyond rehab and strengthening you might need surgery. I'm in the same position and sadly I have to just not do Jiu jitsu until after surgery. Just be careful you don't turn a little labrum tear into a completely destroyed shoulder!

@dsrider185 4 жыл бұрын

@@VaaliD93 +1 on the labrum. See an orthopedist or good PT, get an MRI, and take it from there. You can strengthen the cuff and get it pretty stable when you're within controlled ranges of motion, but the labrum is cartilage (no blood supply) and cannot really heal on its own. Problem with BJJ is always getting pushed/pulled outside your range of control (head/arm choke, kimura), and quick movements (arm drag, planting a hand to avoid a sweep). The surgery carries a lengthy recovery process but might be the best option depending on the extent of your injury and what you're looking for in the long run. FWIW, I'm 6 months out from a 5 anchor posterior labrum repair, and still don't feel ready to roll. Best of luck!

@VaaliD93 4 жыл бұрын

@King David mine was so bad that it dislocated holding Thai pads one day lol. My partner hooked the pad and my arm just went flying, shoulder completely out. I literally popped it back in like it was nothing because this was now the 3rd time, and also the lowest impact as the first 2 times were pretty big impacts/falls. Haven't done any martial arts since and that was a year ago now. Shame!

@yandhi4202 7 ай бұрын

how did it go?

@VinitKusam 2 жыл бұрын

Had my shoulder operated last year...took rest and proper rehab for 7-8 months...sadly dislocated twice during an armbar and muaythai sweep

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 2 жыл бұрын

Are you doing rehab/strength exercises?

@VinitKusam 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheJiuJitsuTherapist Yess I did for the first few months but eventually I stopped

@UMEdawg 3 жыл бұрын

Dislocated my shoulder mma sparring 6 weeks ago. Couple weeks off. Just partially dislocated just then.

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 3 жыл бұрын

Are you doing any strengthening/rehab?

@UMEdawg 3 жыл бұрын

The Jiu-Jitsu Therapist I am. I just jumped into training hard too early and got humbled.

@SD-ch8wo Жыл бұрын

I’ve had it dislocate in the past about 50 times no joke. Couldn’t do basic day to day movements without it popping it. Originally had a guy in a rugby game during a scramble yank my shoulder upside down cause of the awkward positioning and it all started from there. 2 surgeries later and screws put in shoulder. Always feeling tightness with awkward positions. Is it good to train?

@Anderson-jy2sc Жыл бұрын

Hey I know it's been some time, but I'm dealing with similar issues rn. Could you pleas post an Update on your situation. Have you been doing sports? Has your shoulder mobility gotten better or did you dislocate it again?

@jojiodimiourgos5753 Жыл бұрын

i dislocated my shoulder my coach replace the same day, i went to emergency they told me your shoulder is in place after 1 month doctor saw my shoulder and said to me that you are lucky your shoulder is very good you dont need physical therapist in 2 months you can start again but carefully and i dont know want to do start or not im scared AF (sorry for my english) Edit also i told him i do mma

@NuevoVR 4 жыл бұрын

i dislocated mine in mma now i can barely box without dislocating it. it sucks. feel like my career is done before it even started

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 4 жыл бұрын

Kian have you done any rehab or shoulder stability exercises?

@NuevoVR 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheJiuJitsuTherapist Not yet, due to life circumstances but i will be seeing a physio as soon as i can

@sleepysleepy9913 4 жыл бұрын

@@NuevoVR how are you doing now? Curious cause I have the same problem

@HOTRODRICO 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that bro... thats terrible... I feel yoru pain... try to hang in there and get whatever you can as far as treatment... best of luck to you

@angelobelen202 2 жыл бұрын

I've dislocated my shoulder around 12-15 times already. Some of the dislocation happened while I wasn't even sparring. Do you suggest I go see my physical therapist and work on strengthening my shoulders before getting surgery?

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 2 жыл бұрын

Prehab (therapy before surgery) can be helpful in building up strength which can assist with recovery after surgery.

@angelobelen202 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheJiuJitsuTherapist thanks for the advice, hopefully i can get back to competing again.

@yashar8979 2 жыл бұрын

U need to research the best sports surgeon in your area / country and consult with him. With multiple dislocation like that the labrum is torn with potentially additional bone loss of the shoulder cup. This can only be fixed with surgery.

@angelobelen202 2 жыл бұрын

@@yashar8979 do you think physical therapy is enough? My pt is saying I can do without surgery if I religiously follow her program.

@Mika.Mikich Жыл бұрын

you are definattly gonna do a surgery.

@viralspiral5052 Жыл бұрын

I have a genetic shoulder problem, so it regularly dislocates. Once it recovers enough to be stable its alright, but its all about knowing your shoulder movement restrictions. Some movements increase the chance of it dislocating. When it dislocates the risk of it happening again is high. The best way to fix this imho is rehab excersises and avoiding certain movements. For example in boxing i avoid overhand hooks because my shoulder dislocates 99% of the times i try it. focus on mastering other techniques instead of learning the once that most likely injures you.

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist Жыл бұрын

Yes I agree. You have to know your limitations and make the appropriate modifications to your training. Strength training is also very important to build stability in the joint.

@jordanbrennan1299 4 жыл бұрын

I have a torn labrium and have had 3 dislocations. Im going to get surgery and strength it up to the best of my abaility the join BJJ

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Brennan get it taken care of!!! Strengthen it up!

@PaidMario. 4 жыл бұрын

Same here all I can say it DO PHYSICAL THERAPY I slacked off after I had no more appointments and I’m feeling the effects

@joehunter3jh 3 жыл бұрын

Happen to me about 8 years ago I had dislocated my shoulder at grapplers quest kept popping out saw baltimore Ravens team doctor she sasid I tore my labrel if I'm saying it right she did the surgery I had 3 month of hard rehbB seems to be good now shity situation though had to learn how to use my shoulder all over good luck get a sports surgeon

@joehunter3jh 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah just be careful let the person ur rolling with not to attack ur shoulder and do same with ur partner u both will get some training in and don't be afray to tap and just know ur body what it can and not do and don't over do it causes if ur injured ur not progressing good luck this comes from some one who has shoulder dislocations in past

@yandhi4202 7 ай бұрын

how did it go?

@justincannon8356 4 жыл бұрын

Dislocated my shoulder december 20 2019. Looking to start bjj in a month or so. My shoulder is back to 90 percent.

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 4 жыл бұрын

What do you feel that you are still having issues with that would get you back to 100% function?

@justincannon8356 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheJiuJitsuTherapist my doctor says its all good. Was rolling combative with an old buddy. Very light arm barr slightly dislocated it again. Other than that its 100

@CurryBoy42069 2 жыл бұрын

lol, i dislocated it exactly the same date

@salaarmir5932 Жыл бұрын

hey do you have any updates on how its going? Did you end up dislocating it again since starting bjj?

@AN2431C Жыл бұрын

Currently in a shoulder sling after undergoing labral repair surgery. In 6 months time, I'll be getting the same thing done for my other shoulder too. I've wanted to do BJJ for several years now, but my shoulders have been so bad that its kept me away. I'm really hoping I can recover well and finally start training BJJ.

@joehunter3jh Жыл бұрын

Did they do 3 tiny holes or cut you open like the seems on a t shirt . i got lucky and had dr Leigh ann curl do mine she is a nfl sports surgeon the rehab is miserable basically had to learn to use my arm all over started couldnt move a inch but 3 month later was doing one hand push ups on balance ball shoulder felt solid for years after surgery . but last year being mr tuff guy trying to carry a big chair out my house over head and popped right out had 8 years no more dislocations and i trying to just get chair out of house for wife .should have just let her bitch about chair shoulder would still be fine .good luck strenghth train and protect shoulder its wierd it took a long time to have faith in my shoulder after the surgery because i had like 20 dislocations so was always afraid it would just pop out . good luck do you plan on training again ?

@si1az0 Жыл бұрын

@@joehunter3jh YEAH BRO HAHAHA i have 3 scars all about an inch long looool, it's funny to think we got other dudes out there with the same exact scar pattern lmao. sucks tho fr

@kylefee4822 4 жыл бұрын

What about knees?

@Boufcon 4 жыл бұрын

I dont know if i should start bjj precisely because i have dislocated my knee like 5 times, but a good friend of mine who did a lot of boxing told me that people get injured all the time, and they get back up, just like in every other sport, and if you dont want to get hurt, you dont do any sports at all ! I think that you can apply the principles shown in this video to every type of injury

@yandhi4202 4 жыл бұрын

@@Boufcon i like that -thank you bro. Gonna stick with it and condition properly as well as playing/sparring controlled. Thats all we can do

@nobodylikesme7464 3 жыл бұрын

Did bjj without gi for a decade no problems did bjj with gi in a month my shoulders were fucked

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 3 жыл бұрын

What happened?

@2009blahblah 3 жыл бұрын

Gi restricts my movement to much vs no gi where I can move around more. Mind you I'm nearly 40 been grappling since I was a child in wrestling did mma decided after I stopped doing mma to join a group of gi people and from that point on I was always in pain. I won some tourneys pretty easily I'll say because i was a white belt been grappling for years but had to be white belt with a bunch of spazes who skills are pretty lacking against my experiance. So yeah I got messed up pretty quick I quit and returned back to an mma gym a old training partner owns I go in an help teach mma grappling which is way different anyways a lot of bjj now days doesnt address getting punched in the face. So I'm better off now but shoulder is still messed up have to get cortisone shots every 6 months doctor wont even do an xray idk maybe I need a new doctor.

@hoboman965 2 жыл бұрын

@@2009blahblah get a new doctor ASAP.

@thomaspruchinski385 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I’ve dislocated twice in no gi and once in wrestling. Never in gi.

@yandhi4202 7 ай бұрын

how common is it for training partners to say like "dont tap my shoulder" ? i hope its not a buzz kill...

@TheJiuJitsuTherapist 7 ай бұрын

Do you mean asking your training partner not to attack or apply submissions to your shoulder?

@yandhi4202 7 ай бұрын

@@TheJiuJitsuTherapist yea exactly - like “don’t attack my right shoulder”

@lethalyoyo5592 2 ай бұрын

You WILL dislocate it again 😂 just get surgery like I did I had mine completely redone for JJ I don’t compete just roll now 20-50%. No key lock or kimura tap asap.