Can Lead Tape Give Me 300 Yard Drives?

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9 ай бұрын

In this video, I try to improve my driver distance using lead tape. Can certain amounts of weight in certain locations equal more 300 yard drives?
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@jimmypickett2449 9 ай бұрын

I did this with a Ping g430 lst. I only made the driver 5 gr heavier. I took the 22gr weight out of the back and replaced it with a 17, added 10 underneath. Spin dropped 150. I know your test is about basically using a bigger hammer not lowering spin. I basically made a Ping sub zero lol.

@mlagatic 8 ай бұрын

AJ, another great video! I did have success adding lead tape to my driver to reduce spin and add forgiveness. In total, I added about 10 grams of tape on my sim 2 9.0 degree head. I added about 2 grams on top of the weight port in the front of the club to cut down spin. and I added 6 grams on the heel side as far and back as I could on the head. I found that the spin was cut down by the tape on the front...and the tape far and back helped me have more mass to help the clubface close while adding mass and a little more pop. Noticed my total distances jump from 200 carry/220 total to 220 carry/260 total....there was also practice involved too...but definitely improvement when using the lead tape. thanks for the videos and helping us find ways to tinker with our clubs and truly fit them to ourselves and our swings.

@chadillac1127 9 ай бұрын

Great video. I love lead tape on my irons.

@voice_of_reason5604 3 ай бұрын

Very interesting, appreciate it and I’ll be checking out the articles you referred to. I’m a senior player, 10 hcp, ball speed typical 133mph ish. At recent coaching session went from 7g weight in g400 max driver to 16g (standard ping weights I’d picked up on eBay after taking 1” off butt end off shaft as 45 .75 inches was too long for me. Noticeable difference in launch and carry /distance numbers with same swing / ball speed. Stuff like this matters folks, seen it first hand. Find the set up that works for you.

@donaldwhitfield2794 8 ай бұрын

I replaced a 52 gram shaft with a 64gm shaft my club head speed increased by about 3 mph. Upgraded again to a 72gm shaft and increased again by another 2mph a total of 5 mph increase with a heavier shaft. My swing speed with my driver is on the slow side 91-96 mph but strangely enough my speed increased with a heavier shaft. I’ve also noticed an increase in speed with heavier shafts on my irons. I know there is probably a limit on increasing weight/speed but that’s been my experience. I do have a launch monitor that I use at practice so I’m able to consistently measure my swing speeds!

@MaartenAnna 6 ай бұрын

I’m adding 6g to the heel side of my driver, to get that rid of that 10-15yard fade/slice, it might even increase ball speed by the looks of things… I’m testing it out tomorrow 😜

@Durwin-ny4zf 4 ай бұрын

After watching your video on making a swing speed training iron, this video has me wondering a lot of things: 1. Were you just getting too tired to swing the heaviest head? 2. Once you've worked out with the extra 10-gram head, would your swing speed increase when going back to the lighter stock configuration? 3. Would tweaking the loft a little in your stock driver give you that little extra carry you're looking for? 4. Would shortening the club make it easier to swing faster with the extra mass in the head and possibly be easier to hit as well? Seems like we need some follow-up videos.

@lessmith5285 9 ай бұрын

Will definitely try this and report back. Thanks for the great video.

@Big-Crow 2 ай бұрын

Where’s the report back at?

@lessmith5285 2 ай бұрын

@@Big-Crowthanks for the reminder! It didn’t work for me.

@stevegallagher9541 11 күн бұрын

Another great vid, have you thought about choking up a little when you add the weight? For me that’s always made it a little easier to use the sledgehammer after weighting

@davidcarnicom5635 9 ай бұрын

With my old Adams f11, i added 7ish grams of lead tape to the front top. Reduce spin by quite a bit amd lowered launch angle.went from about 287 carry to 300. no monitor just on the range

@garyhovey9305 9 ай бұрын

Very cool idea! How about trying a lighter shaft like the long drive hitters are using?

@donaldrippetoe5246 9 ай бұрын

I really enjoy your channel! I believe in life-long learning and I always learn from your content! I have started to renew older golf clubs but I am just starting to do it. How did you learn about building/refreshing golf clubs?

@EFGMC 9 ай бұрын

I started at Golfsmith and learned from other club builders.

@JohnWalkerCharlotte 9 ай бұрын

The Ping Optimal Launch & Spin Chart is a great reference when optimizing distance. At your 155mph ish ball speed and 2.x degrees upward angle of attack, it is likely your longer drives would happen if you had 13-13.5 degrees of launch angle and 2400-2450rpm spin. So a little more launch angle and a little more spin if you could deliver the club and maintain your current ball speed and angle of attack. It is likely that you could build a driver with consistently longer distance if you shortened it a bit which would a) promote more center strikes for consistently higher smash factor and b) allow you to add that extra head weight without making "feel" quit as heavy. Try it!

@industrialpalletworx3548 8 ай бұрын

That chart would come in handy. Where can that be found?

@dennisduncan9695 7 ай бұрын

@@industrialpalletworx3548it's available on the Ping web site and I found it by just using Google

@Clyde__Frog 9 ай бұрын

Would you reccomend adding weight for someone with a 100mph swing speed?

@davidrivera6694 9 ай бұрын

Hey love you videos. I saw someone else talk about launch conditions. I think it was the guys from TXG. You have plenty speed. Look into it because I think you are leaving distance on the table

@larryyoung9106 9 ай бұрын

Since you have the tools, I would like to see you adopt what I am seeing some of the long drivers doing. They are using "L" flex shafts as low as 195 cpm shafts. They are also pulling the weights out of the weight ports which puts the heads in the 175 to 185 gram range. I know there max length is 48" but I'm not sure they are going that long and some are down in the 2.4 to 4.5 degrees of loft. Let me know what you think. Oh, and keep up the good work. Thanks

@iamdavidbwchen 9 ай бұрын

You should show us the impact on the club of face on each driver in the middle or not. If off centre hit, regardless adding weight or not at this test.

@somethingclever1234 9 ай бұрын

exactly

@meots 5 ай бұрын

I’ve heard Jack Nicklaus and others used to add weight to top of the handle for more club head speed.

@frazc8148 9 ай бұрын

You might want to replace the shaft with something heavier as the overall mass will increase. It will be significantly more difficult to keep your swing speed up once you do this though I did this with G Series LST head and Diamana 93g xflex x5ct It works but you’re gonna know about it after the round 😶🤣

@herbpalmer7501 5 ай бұрын

Jua st wondering...if it was more difficult to square up the club face with the additional weight, what would adding the weight but closer to the heel? Would that help square things up?

@Handletaken4 7 ай бұрын

As a 8 hcp it's crucial for me to hit the fairway. I'd rather be 150 out in the fairway than 135 out in the rough. Can you determine which spin rate finds more fairways?

@franks4973 9 ай бұрын

Interesting, I added 4 grams to the heel for flight correction and have seen a little more distance. I would like to see you redo this with more average players with slower swing speeds (95, 85)

@Leadtapeseller 7 ай бұрын

lol

@bulldog4227 2 ай бұрын

@@Leadtapeseller2:59

@hbyrdut 8 ай бұрын

What if you also added more weight to the grip?

@Travelmoments452 8 күн бұрын

What is strange I shorten my driver shaft by an inch because it was too long for me. But after shorten the shaft, I kept topping the ball. My swing hasn’t changed. Correct me if I am wrong but it seems the shorten shaft affected the weight of the driver and I keep topping the ball. The driver weight felt lighter. I had to make adjustment where I noticed I had to swing even harder just to get the ball up in the air and not topping. Maybe the lead tape could help by adding some more weight to it?

@CaribSurfKing1 8 ай бұрын

Efficiency jump is what your trying to gain. You did that. However, lead tape is really about attaining lowering dispersion circles. Always use dispersion circles, to rationalize changes, even with driver. Also, lighter shaft, with same cam and tape would be interesting with driver, irons and wedges

@ross350tube 8 ай бұрын

I'd like to see if the player with a fast enough swing that could load up a stiffer shaft more by adding weight. like, with a modern driver being quite light and combined with a stiff shaft, there's never enough inertia to put much of a bow in the shaft through the down swing, but I think weight could do that and if that loading up and release could be timed perfectly, there'd have to be a bit to gain from that whip action in a stiff shaft, need a very powerful downswing though.

@johnnicholsii 8 ай бұрын

Add lead under your grip to help the swing weight

@alanduncan9204 9 ай бұрын

I have tried this and even had the tape fly off down the range I was hitting so hard. I also have a Taylormade R7 Quad driver with a selection of weights from 2 thru to 16 gms. I even tried that driver with no weights in but holes and it was inconclusive. The shaft weight also has to be considered. Heavy head light shaft, heavy shaft light head. I am pretty sure that the engineering in just about all modern Drivers has resulted in off the shelf Drivers with stock shafts and 100 mph swings the ball goes 250 yds. Only swinging faster makes the ball go further. Then only to a certain point the smash factor comes into it and spin which then makes the ball become the next part of the equation. 2 piece, 3 piece 5 piece cover type etc etc

@barrygoodson4952 3 күн бұрын

Hi, what weight set up do you use ? I have the same driver and the weight kit for it so I am wondering .

@alanduncan9204 2 күн бұрын

@@barrygoodson4952 Hi I was living in Thailand when I bought the Driver. I was able to find a small shop to buy extra weights. With a lot of tinkering I ended up with 2 x 10 grm weights in the front and 2 x 8 grm in the rear. I hit the ball pretty straight anyway and this resulted in a fairly low penetrating straight flight. The original set up when new was 2 x 8 grm and 2 x 3 grm weight. I moved them around and made the ball fly all over the place. The heavier weights I think steadied the face for straighter flights.The shaft is Regular 65 grm. I do believe this club has the best options of any Driver that has ever been made. Everything since is already set and all you can do is change loft and you get little or no option to move a weight. Changing the loft opens and closes the face. The R7 was set loft and you change the C of G by moving the weights. Only the SLDR Driver came close but I think the weights could not be made heavier or lighter ?. My best drive with an R7 cleared fairway bunkers at 270 yds and the ball ended up 20 feet short of a green at 360 yds.

@francophillips1552 15 күн бұрын

Playing my driver at 44" and E0 swingweight and am hitting farther and much straighter.

@rickcudmore8156 9 ай бұрын

It looked like you have a Fujikura Ventus blue shaft but what was the flex and what degree was the driver head set to?

@EFGMC 9 ай бұрын

6S, head set to 9.5

@boydgrandy5769 5 ай бұрын

I'm thinking a compromise might work better. 6 to 8 grams forward, and maybe 10 grams counterweight in the grip might produce a better result. Forward COG and reduced swing weight from the counterweight might get you the reduced spin AND higher swing speed. I'm going to try that, by the way. I'll put two swing weights of tape on the end of the grip (tape), cover that with electrical tape, because lead, and 6 grams just behind the face on the sole of the driver. LOL If I keep the sole weight, I can coat the lead with clear spray paint (McGuire's headlight clear coat). 'Yes, I'm an idiot.

@aleksilepisto7282 6 ай бұрын

This is why the counterbalanced shafts became really popular on tour they say. Might be better feeling with something like that

@newsogn5148 29 күн бұрын

I would venture to bet that your swing is optimized for that driver, but if you are a bigger dude with more muscle there will be a limit to your club speed, but if you can keep club speed with more weight then it would in theory really really help….

@industrialpalletworx3548 8 ай бұрын

There are players out there from the persimmon era who have said that Hogan used a persimmon driver that weighed as much as 16 oz. Which sounds absurd. Yet feasible considering he was one of longer hitters of his day. He was known to tinker with equipment and if you disassemble a persimmon driver you will find lead under the sole plate.

@SweetSpotSpray 9 ай бұрын

10g did lower spin: You started to hit fades with lower spin than the original club going straight.

@jeremydawkins8399 7 ай бұрын

What do you think about using the 10 grams at the head and counter balancing the grip? That should give you the best of both worlds with extra mass in the head for better ball speed and also being able to keep or improve your stock swing speed.

@EFGMC 7 ай бұрын

That idea is on my video to do list!

@keithjones203 5 ай бұрын

Would like to see how positioning of the weight changes the performance. Specifically from near the face to the back of the club.

@EFGMC 5 ай бұрын

More towards the face drops the backspin, more towards the back ups the spin but stabilizes the head more. How much will depend on the amount of weight added.

@niteninja0133 8 ай бұрын

Question- I started golf 8 months ago play Cobra Airxs regular shaft now. went for a fitting and got fit into Cobra forged tec irons with stiff shafts. So my question is can I just buy stiff shafts and put them into my airxs? And have them perform the same as the forged tecs?

@EFGMC 8 ай бұрын

Usually just moving one flex isn't going to change much of anything. I would be doubtful that only going slightly stiffer would change much by itself.

@niteninja0133 8 ай бұрын

@@EFGMC awesome thank you so much for the info here and on your channel.

@trimmoos 9 ай бұрын

I think you should revisit the counter balance scenario but this time use a long shaft, say 47 or 48", add the weight and then grip down to where you're gripping it at 44 or 45". I knew a club repair guy years ago and he was aware of the counter balance thing and he said that the added weight needed to be above the hands not under them so it will work as a lever propelling the club head to higher speeds. On a side note, I recently went out and and followed a few of the players in a high profile amateur event here in California and there was one guy who was choking up on his driver a good 3" and he was pounding it, consistently over 300 yds, FWIW.

@nelsonjames1272 9 ай бұрын

Do you get the same numbers outside when compared to quad? I didn’t think so.

@jamesajainfo9857 5 ай бұрын

Great background information, not useable in tournaments, but good to understand having heavier weight in the front

@EFGMC 5 ай бұрын

Why can't you use it in tournament?

@CarlManvers2714 5 ай бұрын

Lead tape is absolutely allowed in tournaments lol lots of pros have it

@manontondalan9941 17 күн бұрын

you want to increase distance exercise swing a weight maybe 10 to 12lbs to strengthened your upper arm. 25 repetition 2x a day would be good start.

@briansmith2125 9 ай бұрын

What ball were you using, or did I miss that?

@EFGMC 9 ай бұрын

This was with the Mizuno Tour X

@biggregg5 9 ай бұрын

I'm curious, you added butt weight in previous videos that seemed to add distance. This seems to be the opposite concept. What if you butt weighted....then used the lightest but firmist quality shaft...then started adding head weight? I would think that overall club weight has to be considered.

@EFGMC 9 ай бұрын

Maybe future video.

@golfclubcoach 9 ай бұрын

Going up 5 to 7,5 swing weight points is really really heavy and can definitely mess up your timing.

@jake6501 4 ай бұрын

Is this legal to do to your clubs in tournament play??? I wouldn't think so.

@EFGMC 4 ай бұрын

Completely legal. Just can't add the lead tape during a tournament round.

@dsbgolf 9 ай бұрын

So now you need to combine the extra head weight and an equal amount, or greater, of counterbalance, perhaps there is some magic there?

@GolfBert 9 ай бұрын

what about putting the 10g of weight to the back of the head?

@EFGMC 9 ай бұрын

That will usually increase the backspin though based on this it doesn't look like it would change it much.

@radam2818 9 ай бұрын

Interesting. How much did the 10g extra weight change the swing weight ? What was the new sw ?

@EFGMC 9 ай бұрын

About 5 points. Think we got up to D7-8

@bmos212 9 ай бұрын

Any movement of 13 grams in the head moves the CG. SO you have yo be careful.

@robertsandidge441 6 ай бұрын

I’m thinking it’s a matter of finding the sweet spot with which weight and also the perfect shaft.

@johnbrodnik839 8 ай бұрын

OR, you could try the new Mizuno G driver! I have an old ST G 190 and it’s a great driver. Long! At 70 it still gets out there around 280.

@adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646 9 ай бұрын

10g was enough for me and 20 on the sand wedge.

@chongannyap7562 8 ай бұрын

Could be due to better Swing Weight that optimized the transition and impact (for the +10g) and thus increasing SF.

@JBJHonez 9 ай бұрын

If you don’t have the strength and athleticism to swing faster, nothing will help. There are exercises and workouts that’ll get results as well as well as hitting the range more and work on ball address and such

@perrydegouveia5403 7 ай бұрын

Why do you hold your breath when you hit ? You should try exhale as you take your back swing

@santiagodeponce9390 6 ай бұрын

Small tweaks to swing and you won’t need it👍🙂

@mallrat11 8 ай бұрын

im surprised you didnt start with 5. i think if you lost speed with 15, and even 10.fwlt heavy, you might have noticed the best gains with 5-9g

@EFGMC 8 ай бұрын

Will revisit this topic again with other weights.

@johnpaton8047 9 ай бұрын

Uggggah, me like sledge hammer. I want to crush the ball..

@joebouscaren1 9 ай бұрын

No reason you couldn't have gotten to 1.45 efficiency with stock head. If you had it probably would have produced best distance. As you well know it's all about strike location.