Can the Extreme Bull Griffin REALLY Beat the Lynx? These Three Conditions Will Make it UNSTOPPABLE!

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The Extreme Bull Griffin has been announced, and it looks to be a high performance all-around EUC that appeals to a wide audience. They aim to make it their direct competitor to the Leaperkim Lynx, and it does have a lot of advantages against it in the specs. But how will it truly perform? I detail the three (and a half) keys to success that Extreme Bull needs to do in order to ensure its success - and to destroy the Lynx.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:35 - Extreme Bull Griffin Specs
02:22 - Concerns
04:17 - Three Keys to Being the Lynx Killer
09:19 - Conclusions
10:02 - Final Thoughts

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@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

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@SpencerWheelman 17 күн бұрын

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@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

@@SpencerWheelman Thank you, I appreciate it! 😃

@itechhen 17 күн бұрын

You can do it!

@geeH2oS 17 күн бұрын

I'm definitely no expert but I feel like they're completely different wheels. The EB seems to be a street wheel whereas the LYNX is a "do it all" wheel. I would think with those low battery boxes and street tire, any serious off road riding is a no go. I feel like I can take my Lynx anywhere. The lynx is the swiss army knife of the EUC world in my opinion. It's not the best at any one thing but it's great at everything.

@JoshuaMothis 17 күн бұрын

Yeah it seems like they took the idea of the lynx, and optimized it (or at least tried) for racing/street use.

@Voidroamer 17 күн бұрын

im waiting for leaperkim to kill the lynx :P 2.0 should be a bangar! proud to be part of the subscriber squad, i had to check lol.

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

A new long range wheel announcement is coming very soon from LK 😃 A Sherman S successor is coming!

@misubisu 17 күн бұрын

@@WheelGoodTime Sweet!!

@maxim9875 16 күн бұрын

Honestly, i don't see a need for a lynx 2.0...i LOVE mine. Im a big (1m93) and pretty muscular/heavy rider.. and the lynx has never Let me down.. even in lose sand, mud, whatever... The lynx is the best f'ing thing

@leetNightshade 13 күн бұрын

@@maxim9875 I mean, a Patton 2.0 would be nice with features from the Lynx, like progressive suspension.

@EUCvibes 18 күн бұрын

I hope so !!!! 4,000 w motor .. and Bluetooth speaker🔊😎

@GenghisKhan311 15 күн бұрын

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@kutvis 17 күн бұрын

Thank you for the video! 100% agree on the waterproofing!!

@truthiscensored 15 күн бұрын

They should actually make the weight heavier. The reason the Lynx get wobbles at high speeds and not as smooth as ET Max, V13 , GT Pro and other heavier wheel is because of the weight. Heavier wheel is good for going over 50 mph. It is a plus not a minus. Lighter wheels is for doing tricks and 35 mph or LESS

@juliansdiamonds 17 күн бұрын

Great video !!! It looks beautiful 😍 !!! I love it. I'd try this wheel out. Looks like it'll handle well !!!

@laurv8370 15 күн бұрын

"... you are getting more power per watt." Wheel Good Time 2024. 😀😜💪

@WheelGoodTime 15 күн бұрын

Yeah yeah, I misspoke... More torque extracted per watt would be a better way of putting it

@moonbabies 18 күн бұрын

Very clever demonstration of the different firmware behavior using the lights at night

@patrickmckowen2999 17 күн бұрын

Good overview 👍 Another big hunking road wheel, Pass. Cheers

@bobdebouwer7835 17 күн бұрын

Waterproofing or not, enough people will buy it if the price is low. Where Leaperkim holds their prices up like Apple, Begode / EB will drop the prices soon.

@olliemoto253 16 күн бұрын

Man... I'm about 300mi into my new Extreme Bull Commander Mini. It's a great wheel that's super fun and nimble, and I have no issues with it. I'm looking into a bigger wheel(20") and I'm seeing everything always being compared to the Leaperkim Lynx.. I feel like with the surge of new wheels, I should just get the Lynx. I've never ridden one but, I've seen so much content that it appears that the Lynx holds the Gold Standard amongst the herd. Why even bother with these new wheels if they're barely a contender and of less quality right off the production floor? I'm all eyes and ears but this video, along with many others, sure makes me want to hit 'BUY NOW' and get that Lynx heading my way. Thank you for another informative video!

@WheelGoodTime 15 күн бұрын

Yeah the Lynx truly is amazing 😍 the only reason why I compare it so heavily to the Lynx is because this is EB's self-declared answer to it. They both appeal to wide audiences, but the Geiffin is markedly less expensive also. That said, my Lynx has provided me with the most fun I've ever had with my clothes still on 😂

@EUCme 18 күн бұрын

Hi Rob, I subscribed and liked.😊 Isn't EB part of Begode? Do you consider it to be its own company???

@WheelGoodTime 18 күн бұрын

@@EUCme thank you so much! EB and Begode are separate companies, but they are closely aligned in many ways. The owners of each company are family to each other - I think they are brothers or cousins. EB uses Begode parts in their wheels sometimes, and they use the same app. So the lines are blurred between the two for sure 😊

@lepp_ 17 күн бұрын

Nice video!

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

@@lepp_ thanks! 😃

@grb1969 17 күн бұрын

More overlapping models = more delayed purchasing decisions and paralysis of analysis. Let’s hope the hydraulic suspension is as good as the Lynx.

@Signetring54 17 күн бұрын

I agree with your analysis, though I would think that EB also needs to upgrade their shock suspension. Did I hear someone say progressive springs? After having experienced the outstanding suspension on a demo ride with the Lynx, and owning and riding a Commander Mini with an unreasonably stiff suspension, I can truly say the difference is night and day. If EB doesn't step up in this area, and do something about it, my next wheel will be a LeaperKim, regardless of the other upgrades on the Griffin.

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

@@Signetring54 the CMini is one wheel that I still have yet to ride, but I can say this: the GT Pro suspension is super plush, and I really loved it. Maybe they learned their lesson, hard to say. I hope to give this wheel a review as early as possible and report back 😃

@thedangleengankle8613 17 күн бұрын

One thing I hate about my begode t4 v3 is having to change my horizontal pedal setting every single time I get on the wheel, none of the other companies have this issue on their app/settings. I picked up a commander mini for cheap and have been having a blast, I really hope the QC doesn't get me.

@aking37 17 күн бұрын

easy fix just calibrate the tilt to your desired tilt in the app under calibration and the wheel will automatically keep that tilt everytime you turn it on

@itechhen 17 күн бұрын

Everyone knows the next advancement in wheels will be better then the ones before, that's the way it's been going and will continue. I like all everything about all those "master" type wheels expect for the suspension. I just hope they can create a wheel that can "cut out" safely without killing the self-balancing. That is something i can never understand. There needs to be a back up battery or power source, I'm sure in time they'll come up with something.

@Making_Progr3ss 17 күн бұрын

That can be possible with some serious high voltage capacitors !

@itechhen 17 күн бұрын

@@Making_Progr3ss not any more then existing systems already have, self balancing alone isn't a large draw. Acceleration is.... Kill that without killing the rest of the wheel

@stevehopkins2657 17 күн бұрын

The main problem with all of these new wheels is battery size. We need to be able to go farther. Hoping the gt pro + will solve this. Any new information?

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

@@stevehopkins2657 the GT Pro+ has roughly the same range as an EX30 and Commander Pro. I haven't had my hands on it, but it sounds like a great wheel, if the GT Pro is an indicator 🙂

@stevehopkins2657 17 күн бұрын

Thanks for the response. Thats somewhat disappointing. Once i was able to go faster on my v12 and realized i couldnt make it more than 30 miles ive been waiting for one of these newer wheels that wont give me range anxiety. We have beautiful rails to trails in PA but i can only ride a portion before i need to go home and charge. These wheels keep getting bigger and better but the range stays the same. I need a 70 to 100 mile lynx and id finally feel comfortable upgrading.@WheelGoodTime

@RayVi5ions 17 күн бұрын

Great thumbnail

@ChrisH0Y 17 күн бұрын

I'm seeing a trend (starting with the Inmotion v13) Where you have these incredibly powerful, big volt wheels the but battery sizes that are the same as my 100V Nikola AR+. You get incredible performance, torque and speed - but for how long of a ride do you have before thinking about cut-outs? For me, I would like to see a minimum of 3,600wh - like the Sherman Max / S. I know it can be done - the Sherman Max weighs 86 lbs. Put that lightweight Lynx technology into it, and it would sell for me.

@ChrisH0Y 13 күн бұрын

HEY! The Verteran Sherman L just dropped. 4,000wh - Looks like Lynx! THIS is the one!

@dantemarcos1410 17 күн бұрын

What’s the battery used?

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

2700wh Samsung 50S cells in 4P configuration. 🙂

@ableobject 17 күн бұрын

The larger battery, suspension travel and the motor may be better .. the build quality still needs attention

@patrickmckowen2999 8 күн бұрын

👍

@WillofNewZealand 17 күн бұрын

Many countries measure tyres by the rim diameter, please state rim diameter. A 14 inch rim has a 14 inch tyre on it. I'm not a fan of a 20 inch tyre that might measures 21 inches but then fit a 10 inch rim.

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

The Griffin has a 14" rim, with ~20" edge to edge on the tire.

@WillofNewZealand 17 күн бұрын

@@WheelGoodTime Thanks, that was fast, 14 inch rim ok nice. Wishing you nice success and to be well from Will and Mr Data:):]

@117gilgamesh 17 күн бұрын

Why are they making this when they have GT Pro? And why is Begode having their sister company make a ET Max competitor in the first place?

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

@@117gilgamesh they like to think of themselves as separate entities. The GT Pro was always intended to be a street/racing wheel, while this one appears to be a much more diverse street/trail EUC that can "do it all". The GT Pro is very much of a niche wheel that only appeals to a small segment of the population and is not a big seller. This one, they hope, will be a huge hit for racers, regular street riders, jumpers and trail riders alike.

@ableobject 17 күн бұрын

Cutting corners to save weight 😂

@jurijstorozuk6170 17 күн бұрын

All i can see currently is people in europe and russia racing lynx, retrofitting sherman s motor and hitting 120kmh with 82% pwm and on the other end of the scale is the et max that everyone is saying is so cool and fast, but where is the actual proof? I mean the design of the et max is awesome, but at this point you hear about the et max, but you never actually see anything spectacular.

@ableobject 17 күн бұрын

Any reference for the sherman s motor swap ? I'm interested

@jurijstorozuk6170 17 күн бұрын

@@ableobject it's a telegram channel in russian, but basically last revision sherman s motors are a straight swap into the linx (1st and 2nd batches are not). Diffetence is that the lynx motor winding if focused on torque, while sherman s has high speed winding). Lynx with SS motor pushes through 100kph in high torque mode and did 119.7kph yesterday with the rider wanting to try a 130 kph run in the future. Only thing im sceptical about is that while he provided logs, i dont think the speed was gps verified.

@ableobject 17 күн бұрын

Subscribed until you said it was pathetic.... maybe next video 😂😂

@WheelGoodTime 17 күн бұрын

Pathetic of me, not criticizing my viewers 🙂

@bernardobuffa2391 15 күн бұрын

is there anybody really using soft mode nowadays?

@WheelGoodTime 15 күн бұрын

@@bernardobuffa2391 Me! All day, Every day.

@truthiscensored 15 күн бұрын

Please KZfaq EUC creators...Stop saying that a new wheel is a killer of another wheel. There is no such thing and you sound dumb. People like what they like and want what they want. People are not monolithic robots. We all have different taste and likes Wheel made 3 years ago are still selling like hot cakes. The ONLY thing that can be a wheel killer is the specific wheel itself...and that by the wheel being trash (Cut outs, poor quality, fires, not charging). Another wheel will never "kill" another wheel

@WheelGoodTime 15 күн бұрын

You should be aware that this wheel has been self described by EB in private communications as their attempt to be the lynx killer. So it's not me saying this - it's them.

@nativeme2143 15 күн бұрын

Do you even know what is "800W more than the Leaperkim"? ... Man i bet you don't know how they calculated this shit and what does it mean, and you just assume that they written that something is more = it is better. I would like to remind you that KS S22 pro is also advertised as "4000W" mottor. How does that translate to output power of the wheel? Noone knows. Sorry for such negative comment, though i just hate when someone repeats marketing BS.

@WheelGoodTime 15 күн бұрын

The S22 (and pro) was weak because the mosfets and capacitors were not strong enough to handle the current load that the motor was rated for. Yes I realize that is an easy number to fudge and get away with that lie if they tried. For all we know, KS was fudging those numbers but I don't know for sure.